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Frage von suraty:


Hi folks! The thing is, I've never had a MiniDV camera, and know my way with the format at all. I got s.Samstag the above camcorder and made a few test shots. But as I've s.den the DVD recorder via the DV camcorder connected, I had to wonder really - the picture was really cruel, extreme noise in the entire picture, it looked as if I had filmed with the cheapest webcam. Now the big question is why this could be - either s.der SonyCassette (the cheapest that existed in the Saturn, it should only be used temporarily for testing, good tapes I have) already been ordered, or s.Camcorders. Please help me, I know not next! : (

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Antwort von Markus:

Hello,

the videotape in digital images has no effect on the image noise. What have you got filmed in which lighting situation?

Many aspiring amateur filmmakers succumb to the misconception that you get without significant Lighting "pictures like on TV." But this is not so. If a camcorder, it is dark, the picture begins to rustle.

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Antwort von suraty:

Thanks for the quick reply, I have rumgefilmt in the apartment, the lighting was not so bad extrm) (100W lamp. Previously I had a Samsung Hi8, she has not reacted so sensitive to light. : (

I was going to test out in the sun, but because the battery has given up his mind, he should in a few minutes but once again "be online". :)

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Antwort von suraty:

So, I just filmed outdoors, the picture is really bad, you see everywhere, and thus coarse-pixeled synonymous lost the sharpness. :-( How can that be all, or what can be wrong?

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Antwort von Markus:

What I just think ... where did you assess the picture quality anyway? But hopefully not s.PC monitor?

Learn More:
Problems with the quality after reading

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Antwort von suraty:

On the PC monitor, TV and s.LCD-s.Röhrenfernseher. On the tube TV you can see almost no mistakes, but soon it will all have LCD TV and dadrauf the video (on a DVD is burned now) really unbetrachtbar. (Or should that be so?

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Antwort von Markus:

The tube TV is the measure of things, because only the Picture as well as reflect it records your camcorder.

All other output devices mess up "the picture before it can be shown. Then it is of the quality of the scaling and interlacing depends on how well or poorly represented a good video image.

If the picture on the LCD TV does not look good, then that is of s.der poor quality of the TV. Every other camcorder that would look similar.

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Antwort von suraty:

Good, so it is stated that the camcorder takes the interlaced picture? And what do I do now sensible to the Picture on the LCD TV to be able to represent? Because you have to make during capture or in a slightly different burn to DVD? The interlaced picture is to be burned to a DVD? I'm sorry if the questions are sending them a stupid, but alone I can not get clear. :-)

PS. I have a Samsung DVD Recorder with HDMI and internal upscaler, and one BenQ 3750 (1920x1080i). No matter if I leave now upscale the BenQ or the recorder, the picture still remains rather vague.

PPS. I know that DVD camcorders offer absolute terms, lower quality, but I had the same problem there, or would the picture on the LCD TV will look better? Or possibly a hard disk recorder of JVC?

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Antwort von Markus:

"suraty" wrote: Good, so it is stated that the camcorder takes the interlaced picture?
Yes, just like (almost) every other camcorder synonymous. Thus, the TV norm has been defined.

"suraty" wrote: And what do I do now sensible to the Picture on the LCD TV to be able to represent?
This time read the article Gibt es Referenz LCD Geräte f. AE,Premiere, etc.?
"suraty" wrote:
Gibt es Referenz LCD Geräte f. AE,Premiere, etc.?
Because you have to make during capture or in a slightly different burn to DVD?
Gibt es Referenz LCD Geräte f. AE,Premiere, etc.?

No and no.

Gibt es Referenz LCD Geräte f. AE,Premiere, etc.?
"suraty" wrote:
Gibt es Referenz LCD Geräte f. AE,Premiere, etc.?
The interlaced picture is to be burned to a DVD?
Gibt es Referenz LCD Geräte f. AE,Premiere, etc.?

Yes. Each PAL device can deal with interlaced video, for the television standard is ... well, that you already know. ;-)

Gibt es Referenz LCD Geräte f. AE,Premiere, etc.?
"suraty" wrote:
Gibt es Referenz LCD Geräte f. AE,Premiere, etc.?
I know that DVD camcorders offer absolute terms, lower quality, but I had the same problem there, or would the picture on the LCD TV will look better? Or possibly a hard disk recorder of JVC?
Gibt es Referenz LCD Geräte f. AE,Premiere, etc.?

To a little food for thought: A good video picture looks bleak in the LCD TV. What will probably look like a bad video picture? ;-)

To read once synonymous sales "marketing and reality"-slashCAM the following article:


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Antwort von suraty:

Hi Mark, thanks for the many replies! :-)

But for LCD TVs, it would be better if the camcorder would gradually absorb the Picture? So I asked for the DVD Cacmcorder, I thought it would do so. The other facts were known to me, but thanks anyway for the link.

My Television is not all that bad! ;-) In a normal DVD, I have a crystal clear picture without any artifacts or other. :-)

Have just the DVD interlaced (bottom field first) burned, but has brought nothing. :-(

Always left with the question of why the look of the analog recorded videos of MiniDV and Hi8 ok not?

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Antwort von PowerMac:

Finally a trial basis but the camera directly to s.den Television.

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Antwort von prem:

That is very interesting to have connected the camcorder directly analogous s.den Television and the picture is much better. Of course, no pared with a tube TV, but it is quite ok. So I already know that it is not s.der camera, but s.meiner constellation. Well then, thank s.alle who have helped me! :-)

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Antwort von Markus:

"PowerMac" wrote: Finally a trial basis but the camera directly to s.den Television.
You see Patrick, because I had not thought of that! Here was not just a video camcorder and the quality of the LCD-TV assessed, but the quality of synonymous change MPEG2 (DVD). ;-)

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Antwort von suraty:

I've actually set the encoding performed in the highest possible quality (2 pass VBR in Nero), Nero is good or not?

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Antwort von Markus:

Please go to TMPGEnc. The MPEG2 encoder can you 14 days free trial and which should be pretty good - especially for the (subsequent) purchase price.

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Antwort von suraty:

Hey Mark, thanks for the tip, I try it out!

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