Frage von EyTschej:
The title of my posts seems very out of true, I know - just wanted to include everything that currently employs me. I tell of times in front:
I bought a Panasonic NV-GS17. When she arrived, I have only briefly tested whether they will turn on - everything normal. The first rotating then rose slightly after 4 weeks. Until then I had a no-name synonymous Battery bought the 2200 mAh and is compatible to the CGA-DU21. Before the rotation, I turned on the camera then normal with this battery, fine.
Then the camera was no longer in my hands as I sat on 'nem racing - more details on this do nothing to the point. Afterwards I wanted to watch the recorded at home, and I noticed that the mikrige original battery was used. The film, the person said that was the camera with the other after a few minutes Battery already made.
I looked briefly at the recording, but after a few seconds, the camera was turned off. Went to no longer be synonymous. Others put Battery - went again. Then saw that the last seconds of the recording with no name-Battery very pale and full of Störstreifen were - so that was before the movie, the person then had to change the battery. Shortly thereafter, the camera went out again.
I then tried the power supply synonymous. Here, I noticed that the display picture every now and then had some distorting Störstreifen - with power supply, but synonymous with Battery. Thereafter, but at least wanted to dub the first time using the Firewire Recording on the calculator. Firewire cable s.Calculator infected, then plugged s.Camera (Calculator ran). Then I wanted to turn on the camera - did not work. At this point I could only determine nor the death of the camera, not a revival took place.
What struck me was synonymous, that "here and there" were a few drops of liquid - very strange. Could Especially since, according to Manual in liquid (condensation of a corresponding icon on the screen) should appear, which was never the case (when the cam went). From now opened up only one thing: in connection of power supply or battery (no preference which one) flashed briefly on the display white, although the camera was still set to OFF. End of the mourning song.
The problem with liquid and the white flashing screen, I leave here yet of a different user with different camera - presumably this is already the source of errors. The camera is now on the road to repair.
According to the Manual is to be synonymous, but the camera does not connect via firewire s.einen ongoing Calculator, which I ignored. In the manual but it is synonymous only that it might not lead to a Malfunction - Malfunction - but that the camera might be included in the happy hunting grounds. Firewire, the camera may have geschrottet? I believe it hardly ...
It is supposed to use Panasonic Batteries. Are more expensive and not efficient. Can my 2200 mAh (with 7.4 V), the camera has geschrottet? Genuine Panasonic Batteries of 7.2 V. I have found in this forum already reviews, that this should be no problem.
Thus. Can anyone venture a remote diagnosis? Have I made a mistake with Firewire? If the no-name battery fault? Or indicate the fluid traces on the cause?
I'd like opinions, because I am currently super worried that I am the repaired or new Cam schrotten could be back if the error is not the solution, but the no-name battery or were connecting the Firewire cable. I personally do not believe that with the Battery and the Firewire easy ...
PS: Sorry for the novel, I am concerned ...
Antwort von rtzbild:
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Until then I had a no-name synonymous Battery bought the 2200 mAh and is compatible to the CGA-DU21. Before the rotation, I turned on the camera then normal with this battery, fine.
According to the Manual is to be synonymous, but the camera does not connect via firewire s.einen ongoing Calculator, which I ignored. In the manual but it is synonymous only that it might not lead to a Malfunction - Malfunction - but that the camera might be included in the happy hunting grounds. Firewire, the camera may have geschrottet? I believe it hardly ...
It is supposed to use Panasonic Batteries. Are more expensive and not efficient. Can my 2200 mAh (with 7.4 V), the camera has geschrottet? Genuine Panasonic Batteries of 7.2 V. I have found in this forum already reviews, that this should be no problem.
Hello and good evening,
short time to us it is made here in our daily editorial:
Camera no preference whether s.oder off is displayed s.den ongoing Calculator firewire-d, Canopus Let's edit s.and off you go.
When finished capturing, firewire cable and get out next turn.
So far, no cam break, not a calculator crashed, killed no pictures.
At No-Name Batteries replacement, we use the cheapest type hergibt the ebay. So far no problems. Today I fell down a somewhat thicker battery and the casing was broken, I could see through the crack, the blue cells.
Glue drum, loading and weitergefilmt.
No hiss, no explosions, nothing.
So, courage, o)
Gruß Olli
* in his "shop" Cams, Batteries, Calculator, together with accessories * rather be a poor relation
Antwort von Markus:
Then the camera was no longer in my hands as I sat on 'nem racing ... Hello,
s.dieser passage when I arrived, I already knew nothing good. As the "other hand" has dealt well with the camcorder? (... Liquid dripping from the unit?)
Then saw that the last seconds of the recording with no name-Battery very pale and full of Störstreifen were - so that was before the movie, the person then had to change the battery. If the battery is empty, the record is not bad! The camcorder is working for some time next (with the appropriate battery message on the display) and shuts down at some point. The recording ends at this moment, as if it had been a regular stop.
I then tried the power supply synonymous. Here, I noticed that the display picture every now and then had some distorting Störstreifen - with power supply, but synonymous with Battery. This is already hinted at the impending failure. The right approach would have been: to make videotape (camcorders open), remove Battery and drying device completely.
According to the Manual is to be synonymous, but the camera does not connect via firewire s.einen ongoing Calculator ... The Firewire connection is "designed for" hot plug, ie you can down the equipment without any problems combination of both (I always do so). Even more critical are static charges, which are discharged when connecting. (See synonymous pointing to ESD damage in the post
Canon users Warning: Sensitive DV interface). It is supposed to use Panasonic Batteries. All Manufacturers say that one should only use the Batteries of their own home. With the keyword "Noname" you find here in the forum usually numerous positive experiences of other users ...
Antwort von prem:
Thanks for the replies. So then it would have been a fluid problem. Then I hope once I get back an intact camera soon and then again soon, without fear to deal with it. Yes synonymous for many years previously had a Panasonic, which never made problems.
Antwort von prem:
The Camera NV-GS17 does not have firewire, who knows what was being interrelated. The camera only has USB.
Maybe that was the mistake.
Antwort von Markus:
According to the
Manufacturer's website
Antwort von EyTschej:
So it has a firewall on each port, so what do I know yet;) - you only had to stop the cable buy extra, because that was not included.
I have the camera for weeks now finally back and looked to my mind when I think no-name-in battery. Perhaps it was coincidence, but I found s.dessen base minimal fluid traces. I have no plan for Batteries, but there is synonymous liquid inside? Will the no-name battery have been the source of liquid??
Antwort von Markus:
There Batteries, which is a liquid in it, for example (not maintenance) lead acid battery. It is dilute sulfuric acid.
Whether in your battery fluid in there or not, I can not tell by remote diagnosis. In modern Batteries can largely do without trying to add the necessary fluids and electrolytes such as a gel. Sure you have heard in this context, many of maintenance-free lead-acid batteries.
PS: A "firewall" port your camcorder will certainly not have! ;-)
Antwort von EyTschej:
Hehe, jo - a firewall would be most desirable s.meinem camcorder to ward of fluids;)
It's just a Lithium-Ion Battery. I'm generally a little googling and have now had the impression that these batteries could leak fluid. I understand from your answer, but rather that my kind of battery should not contain liquid. Hmmm ...
How can you - without notice, take the battery s.der Cam in operation - whether from the battery fluid is leaking or not? I am a full-layman, ie quasi-n 'Ladies - Please remember that;)
