Frage von picotto2:
I stand before he decide which of the two cameras I should buy myself. The problem is:
1. There are no test reports on both cameras
2. The Canon is not yet published
I'm messing around a few days in the business views with the Panasonic and the Canon MVX350. From the handling has given me the Panasonic is more comfortable. Can you compare the new MVX350i ever MVX450 with?
What do you think: What is the two cameras have their noses in front when tested, and what would you recommend me?
Antwort von AndyZZ:
1. There are no test reports on both cameras
2. The Canon is not yet published
Well do not even expect too many answers. As you have mentioned above already ... We will then know not synonymous test reports. And when the camera is not released yet, how can anyone say what??
Small logical problem ....
Antwort von The-Chronic:
Which is the comparable predecessor model, the Canon MVX450? Maybe you can describe it even a few impressions.
From the Panasonic I have read a little experience report. I think that is up to the usual overnight weakness, it is a recommendable camera.
Antwort von Acer:
Hello "Guest"
the previous model, the MVX450 is MVX350i Canon MVX330i respectively.
the comparable predecessor model can not say that. In my opinion, the 4xx series verschlechert (MVX3xxx = 1 / 4, 5 "CCD, MVX4xx = 1 / 5" CCD) as an example. Perhaps someone already has several recordings with the MVX3xx ready.
Lg,
Acer
Antwort von Jan:
Hello you,
so I have to describe - with what's new zb and the accessories posted here, perhaps bringing you the next what has become better:
-mv-450-460 canon Well, the 350i is quite good, but tell me of some customers of the excessive drive noise around it 3xx series. If a lot of manual is to be set, of course, Panasonic is the first choice for Canon MVX 350i only go up, including exact shutter speed and a mix of aperture / gain over a simple pros / cons scale, the exact numbers, as eg in the MVX 45i or all Panasonic 's. But in the whole of the 350 is a good camera - which has just won at the shopping guide of VideoAktivDigital even the test in the price range.
LG
January
Antwort von Acer:
Hello Jan,
this means that the Panasonic NV-GS280 manual is adjustable (precise Aperture 2,4,8, etc.) without the Pros / Cons, and the shutter speed and exposure as well.
Would you prefer the 280 of the 4xx series?
What is Twin-LED? Does this mean that the display is used as a lamp when it rotates by 180 °? Does the NV-GS280, the synonymous, as the MVX460?
LG
Acer
PS: has sound "test") (Stiftung Warentest, the MVX330i and MVX350i the best sound (2.1, unlike Panasonic NV-GS75/150/250 and SonyDCR-HC90/42, etc.
PPS: Did I ordered videofilmen, since all the tested models (NV-GS280/300 Panasonic, Canon MVX450/460, etc. If, however, until the end of March, a real shame
Antwort von picotto2:
The topic was the GS180 and the MVX450, ie start in this thread, please do not with the GS280, also there are enough threads in this forum ...
Antwort von Jan:
Hi Acer,
indeed a plus point at Panasonic is the one even in the basic model GS 17 / or set in the new 27 shutter speed eg 1 / 50, 1 / 2000 etc, accurate, Aperture 1.8, 2.8 etc, or increase 3 DB, 12 DB etc can.
That needs to be switched to manual, then the middle joystick pressure, then comes the menu White balance, gain, shutter, aperture, etc.
I think with the TwinLed Canon says that the built-in video light more power / has luminosity. Of the built-in lights, I am not convinced, however, so far there was only enough for close-range.
The Canon in the consumer class when sound is not overly well, we read often. I really had already exchanged a few synonymous MV 7xx, 8xx or 3xx due to excessive drive noise, so there are no exceptions. VideoaktivDigital had problems with the drive synonymous of Canon 's warning, though MVX 350i has won the test.
The new Canon 's 4xx I have not yet, because I can not express. I think the GS 280 for a great camera, I've written many times before.
LG
January
Antwort von Sam_Broggs:
indeed a plus point at Panasonic is the one even in the basic model GS 17 / or set in the new 27 shutter speed eg 1 / 50, 1 / 2000 etc, accurate, Aperture 1.8, 2.8 etc, or increase 3 DB, 12 DB etc can. That is, for all models, right?
I think with the TwinLed Canon says that the built-in video light more power / has luminosity. Of the built-in lights, I am not convinced, however, so far there was only enough for close-range. Someone (that you?) Has written here at Slashcam that use some models of Panasonic's LCD monitor as a lamp. When you turn it 180 degrees so that it points forward. It should auto white light and thus working as a video light. Is that true?
The Canon in the consumer class when sound is not overly well, we read often.
Is it different at Panasonic? (serious question!)
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Today I got the article on "watch video" Fit for television 'read in the Panasonic NV-GS280EG/300EG test you have been with 90/100 (NV-GS280EG) and 91/100 (NV-GS300EG) score cut off. The low-point lead was s.dem only in the NV-GS300 existing computer input.
Worth it? I asked a question about this already, maybe you can tell me if it's worth this input, if I have already [url = http://forum.slashcam.de/analoges-digitize-with-pinnacle-vt33945.html}dieses device [/ url].
Thanks in advance
Acer
Antwort von Acer:
S s.end ****, still synonymous with a false link ")": embarrassment: =)
I was somehow logged out when I wrote the article. Also available is the link to
Antwort von Markus:
... that use some models of Panasonic's LCD monitor as a lamp. Please let this not be true! I have already heard of cell phones that can be used as synonymous "Behelfsbeleuchtung" to find a keyhole. But an LCD screen as a video light? What light output that may have be?
The toy industry is building more new gimmicks really into their camcorders! Just a pity that because of the serious tools are pushed ever more into the background - and thereby may even disappear from the market. : - /
Antwort von Jan:
Hi Acer,
- Yes, with all models in recent years, certainly with all Mini DV 2005 and 2006 models of Panasonic.
Twin-no mean Led 2 lights are installed, but any model which has itself built a lamp that I know of is more than useful to illuminate close-range, and certainly not a person-in fact a publicity stunt.
Better usable lamps have 50 watts. 75 (Mark starred Romy zb) or some 250 or 500 watt lamps with rechargeable battery pack.
For me and many others is Panasonic / Sonyin things Microphone in camera manufacturers original leader.
Well I have not written, can not imagine it's synonymous if it's a great deal. Go souvenirs shops and views into a turn on the built-in light, you'll see that it brings nothing, no preference which company ........
LG
January
Antwort von Acer:
Hello Jan,
yes, I've already said that I want the NV-GS280 (buy at Saturn [a lo mejor.]) To be sure, but I would still like to know whether the 100 ¬ price difference with the NV-GS300
Antwort von Sam_Broggs:
Title: Panasonic NV-GS180 oer Canon MVX450
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I stand before he decide which of the two cameras I should buy myself. The problem is:
1. There are no test reports on both cameras
2. The Canon is not yet published
I'm messing around a few days in the business views with the Panasonic and the Canon MVX350. From the handling has given me the Panasonic is more comfortable. Can you compare the new MVX350i ever MVX450 with?
What do you think: What is the two cameras have their noses in front when tested, and what would you recommend me?
Hello s.alle!
Has anyone already done with the above Cams experiences. I'm already synonymous kur away from buying one of them. I would be interested to know how well they work in low range. Strong noise or not. (eg, green screening) in the interior. Has anyone ever had experience there?
For an answer I would be very grateful.
Chris
Antwort von Markus:
Better usable lamps have 50 watts. 75 (Mark starred Romy zb) or some 250 or 500 watt lamps with rechargeable battery pack. So far it does not have to even drive. Even a Halogen Video Light with 20 Watts brings a huge improvement over "no no" extra light, especially indoors. I myself synonymous nor a 20W lamp in use, eg for the holidays if I have tons (!) Battery belt would carry around with me. ;-)
Antwort von Acer:
Can I still please answer my question above? :-)
LG
Acer
Antwort von Jan:
Hi Acer,
a little impatient, why DV IN often talked about was already in Slashcam.
That you need to know what the cut films are A: to DVD or B to Mini DV tape, you want a live split-image eg via television in order to assess the quality right?
Well if it's on DVD and then compress harder postprocess is
Some do not think much of the disc stability. I have recently seen with the acclaimed DVD Ram - the anti-scratch even. 3x I could throw away after using them, with each new recording massive image errors were on it, with None other, I had the problem but otherwise
You can buy wherever you want, honestly if you're not in Munich, I am basically no preference. My chain is gehts eh pretty good, and the moment is the flagship company in the Metro Group. Who do you buy in another market in Munich, that would be even worse for me (only as general) because I think those numbers compare with.
That buys some of the Internet I can understand some, I have at the moment so the 180s for 519 ¬ more expensive than some cheap internet service providers.
Now one understands why the advice synonymous synonymous several times is very concise in my chain, my intuition tells me that approximately 40% of intensively at Media Markt / Saturn (they are known to halt advice), I often have the case where a good half would be advised to s.end and the customer goes without buying something, and IT Prices s.Schluss brings into play.
One or the other can be seen next week with a camera and is looking for a bag - because it has not fallen in the IT, since it is already time for acid-occurs relatively frequently.
This is currently often, one or the other seller can not be bothered to keep more and more consulting and less if the price of IT will then interview the top s.ins's obviously faster over. And more looks at the camera, if the vendor is required "in the bag has".
Since let's face it how many were here Neuslashcamer bitched about my chain and had the top of the camera s.vor buy on the internet!
@ Chris, well, the 450s I have not had in hand, the GS 180 is for me a little better than the old 75er in terms of image noise. Extremely accurate test's as trade magazines, I have not done, however, is only such a first impression.
As should be a good test of a lowlight Users are familiar with - Who reports? Or on the exact test of FachMag's serviceable - though sometimes synonymous which is very different in the same model.
LG
January
