Frage von Sceetch:
moin together
3 days since I have my new cam and am actually quite satisfied with the extent. Well, for my fins, the thing is' n bissl small, but then you have less drag.
From my old Canon MV30i (and of course various cameras), I know the practical exposure corrector, on the one hand is easy to reach (synonymous during recording: one button press and correction via a dial setting) and, of course, to the automatic exposure effect .
With the Panasonic I can time and Aperture / manual gain set in automatic mode, but awkward to reach (only on manual switch, then into the menu, in the corresponding submenu, then select Time or Aperture and then correct) Also, I suspect that if I have enough light for example, the time change, the auto aperture is adjusted. So I can while the time / aperture ratio change, but not the total exposure. I would be the important feature, since the SD1 for my taste in exposure sometimes too much of a good tut.
Has someone an idea or am I just too stupid to use this feature to find?
Antwort von Bernd E.:
The functions of a camera in the operating instructions should be documented. If nothing appropriate drinsteht, there should be no such correction opportunity.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Sceetch:
Hi,
synonymous as far as I had already thought of. Only one in I can not find the instructions (and also are by far not all features of the Cam synonymous documented in the instructions) and the another I hardly imagine that Panasonic, the entire quantity s.Features, this small detail has forgotten. The sound so I can disqualify synonymous manual, so why not synonymous exposure?
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
no she has not.
This is actually a function from the photographic technique and therefore Digcam SLRs but synonymous with professional video cameras.
When the video cameras so what has called the most AE Shift zb SonyDSR PD 170, but rather in the Prosumerklasse s.2000 ¬ encountered. SonyHC 5 & 7 have such a function, but is rather the exception in the 1000 ¬ price range.
For me is more favorable because no known, there is the + - scale but there is the Aperture adjusted, possibly depending on the need for an increase - but no correction. Zb in the Canon, JVC and Sony Consumer klasse, the aperture is adjusted, one can easily see the front s.Lens change the + - scale.
For many of the video camera to a purely cut certain parameters, say for example the 1 / 50 sec shutter, some synonymous then a certain aperture, then the correction may be in the wrong direction.
In the camera, it is perhaps no preference whether 1 / 25 sec, the camera is activated (except I have a tele turn, or no stability in the CCD), where the video is 1 / 25 sec fatal move for a clear presentation. Any part, the camera so when the correction move.
I think not so much of it, unless you want to clean the front of a certain correction "clean cut". In the photo area, I think the correction has to be important in video, I prefer the beginning of s.die 1/50sek, Aperture, depending on the sharpness & lighting needs in light slumber nor gain, depending on the situation. Well I film much synonymous with Lowlight, at least it's there so.
VG
Jan
Antwort von mikisb:
Hi Jan,
The original question was of me, now hab 'ich mich mal logged synonymous.
First, many thanks for the detailed answer. I had but not quite clear: I would not even primarily the relationship between aperture, time and gain exposure for a given change, but the exposure itself Specifically: In some situations, the exposed SD1 for my taste too strong, then what in a relatively pale colors result. (ies would perhaps synonymous help to reduce the contrast, but that is not synonymous).
I am now but dahintergekommen what the Panasonic people in shaping the thought functions were:
In the mode "manual": If I change the exposure time, adjusts the Cam Aperture / auto gain on. The exposure remains the same, the ratio time / aperture changes (similar to a time when the automatic camera).
If I change the aperture, the cam adjusts the time / no gain, so that I would be targeted under / overexpose can. This is sometimes partially, what I was looking for.
Unfortunately, this exposure then static: If I order a pan, for example, of a lighter shade in the area do, then of course the brighter the area completely overexposed.
What I've really wanted is a way of saying automatic: Exposure auto, but your reference value is reduced by 1 f-stop. This goes for the Panasonic does not, in my old Canon MV30i gings.
Maybe yes Panasonic packs sowas times purely in an update if there is something in there ..... Videocams
Best Regards, Michael
Antwort von Jan:
Hi Michael,
But in the video area for the consumer rather rare, as written SonyHC 3,5,7 - da hab ichs tested.
As I said at the photo area, synonymous with Flash under / over it like I do.
Then your Canon was pretty good, because today looks rather bad, many models have automatic transmission and only then if a manual shutter and aperture.
I think times are not the Panasonic does, when video cameras are rarely updates, most recently with the SonySR 1st
In the photo area as the update almost every week - see Pentax K 10th
Perhaps companies want the video to say, if you stop to "hell" is an ND, or screws POL filter previously to your mood or how to get in POL "The beautiful blue sky."
AVCHD is intended for consumer eh, you'll laugh, a variety of Panasonic owners were not even in the manual menu - where Soft Skin, Tele Macro, Gegenlichprogramm and the shutter, aperture / gain control at home. That is the way - many consumer only want automatics.
Good for semi camcorders I 2 Fitted Graufilter to equal whereby geb now admit that I rarely use a correction would be a video camera - except the automatic exposure, the model is completely wrong.
VG
Jan
Antwort von mikisb:
Sooo, this is the official statement of the issue to Panasonic ... still nice and quickly replied:
"With reference to your request we will provide you with the fact that the SD HD camcorder HDC-SD1EG no way (eg. A keystroke, etc.), there is an exposure compensation or exposure correction performed. Here are just of the You already named variants.
We apologize, but thanks for your note and this will obviously s.die appropriate division of our company forward. Whether and in what form this will then be taken into account, we can not judge of this.
Yours sincerely,
Your Panasonic Customer Care Team "
Antwort von Jan:
A small possibility there yet - even though we are actually the opposite often want to achieve - dim ....
When program is ca Backlight with Aperture 1.5 is shown.
VG
Jan
Antwort von mikisb:
Bingo, when I "rich" want to expose, does the tip :-), it's vice versa, of course not.
A question hab 'ich still with the ND filters: Cam then the power not simply to the Aperture next to s.Ende yet again at their reference value come from? To have seen it then, except for minor Schärefentiefe zb portraits, nix it?
Antwort von Jan:
Hello mikisb,
firms react quite differently to Graufilter, I now have a test done with current Sonyand Panasonic camcorders.
In good light the room (actually it is a gray filter there rubbish - I wanted to test it anyway times)
Panasonic - Shutter & Aperture remain almost always the same - 1 / 50 with f 1.8 - only the gain is about 6 to Graufilterbenutzung DB increased.
Sony - is often shutter of 1 / 100 to 1 / 50, Aperture remains synonymous open, gain is still higher than Panasonic, partial + 9 DB.
In normal day light, it is synonymous surprisingly, Panasonic is very much like the 1 / 50 / 1 / 100 sec is (except it is too light) and runs the highly Aperture
f 8 / 11, when shutter Graufiltergebrauch remains almost always at 1 / 50 the Aperture jumps of 8 to 4
Sonynimmt light like normal but a 1 / 100 s or faster and is relatively open to the Aperture 2.8 or 4, then Graufilter at 1 / 50 with
2.8 of 4th
In very good daylight with 1 / 250 sec Aperture f 16 and probably looks different, the situation could not be tested.
The companies have probably wiklich different setups, like the Panasonic changed Aperture, Sony Rather Aperture and shutter in the interaction. I must still look what I've set, with Sony Gibts Auto Shutter function where you can say what shutter speed (1 / 50 sec) priority should be used.
At the end, you have right ...
VG
Jan
Antwort von mikisb:
Hi Jan,
wow, das is mal 'ne detailed comparison, saves me a lot Probiererei, especially since I am with Cancordern eh' not so familiar ... Thanks!
Best Regards, Michael
