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Frage von ef.multimedia:


Hello,
I have a rotation soon at an event. Here I will give a tape to film. A camera is a line-signal from the mixer to the tape so that the sound synonymous what makes her. Unfortunately, some people walk between stage and camera. How does this affect the audio cable from? Could it be interference in the sound come from?
Is there no preference, while some people pointed rumtrampeln or should I use it through a metal tube set?

Thank you very much

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Antwort von r.p.television:

Given that the cable is not the cheapest product is the Far East because nothing should happen. You should only ensure the ninth and you stumble over it in case stupid Camera Tripod with outlines. Well Gaffa tape to secure the cable s.Boden use.

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Antwort von ef.multimedia:

That is unfortunately not. Cobblestones :-) But my concern is primarily just a matter of sound trouble-free.

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Antwort von videobob:

??????

So when I fell on your cable and ear interrupting me, I sue you! ;-)))

But seriously ..... but take the sum signal from s.der stage.

Either the FOH signal s.den amps, or you ask the Tonmenschen whether what they have on their multicore free ....

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Antwort von r.p.television:

Sound remains trouble free.
But really good Gaffa tape (not the 2.99 ¬ to the role of Obi) is liable on cobblestones synonymous. Prerequisite course should have a broom purity, but I do not think that the concert will take place in gravel pit atmosphere.
Let the cable in any case uncertain. At least one hang Vollpfosten stay tuned! Concern you in case of doubt, cable crossover from heavy solid. As already provides the weight for solid grip.

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Antwort von Dr. Walter Gesierich:

"ef.multimedia" wrote: Hello,
A camera is a line-signal from the mixer to the tape so that the sound synonymous what makes her. Unfortunately, some people walk between stage and camera. How does this affect the audio cable from? Could it be interference in the sound come from?

Not the people are the problem for the sound, but magnetic interference. Also, a line signal is not entirely free of them. If you can (XLR s.Camera?), Then necessarily a symmetrical signal routing use. Details with the Tonmann s.Mixer discuss mixing easier since many have only one symmetrical output, and goes s.die amplifiers. Other outputs are often unbalanced TRS outputs.
Greetings from Tonfreak

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Antwort von ef.multimedia:

Where can I get this "good" rubberneck buy in the store, because there are better stores? Internet would be for me a role then it is too cumbersome.

On the stage is possibly a little MiniDV camera, but which can not disqualify, therefore, must be a cable to one of the big cameras.

PS: How long can the 6.5 mm jack cable for the maximum because unsymetrie?

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Antwort von PowerMac:

If there are differences, there should be: Gaffa tape in the grip department of hire purchase, not from the building.

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Antwort von Dr. Walter Gesierich:

"ef.multimedia" wrote:
PS: How long can the 6.5 mm jack cable for the maximum because unsymetrie?

Depends of course, the strength of environmental influences. I've already seen that a non-cable unrolled an extremely loud 50Hz transformer hum in a 2-meter cable has reingedröhnt, next to the drum in half a meter stand. Cell phone's are fierce and lighting systems of the musicians quite bad. More like 8 meters is in any case of evil. It is important that the mixer Nutzpegel from as high as possible. As high as you gain with s.der Camera down regulate distortion target. If it's done, test times previously.
And what you absolutely should make synonymous with one of the cameras, or with a digital recorder with normal "micro-Hall" recording, so you are in the post production an authentic open-air sound synonymous searched and then synchronously to the Line-track to mix it. The signals from the mixers are terribly dry, there must be something Athmo drüber.

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

Gude

`Gaf tape aka armor tape, there are differences, of course .....

Metal pipe is not more "GARDEN HOSE"

The aforementioned "KAbelbruecken" rubber mats are used in such cases should always s.die main transitions / passage / passages
laid.

MfG
B. DeKid

PS We tried cable whenever possible in the Height to relocate ....

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Antwort von robbie:

has the "big" camera because no xlr?

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Antwort von ef.multimedia:

Honestly, I jack in the fall rather than if, despite all safety precautions with gawper someone should create on the cable to stumble, dropping the jack from the easy times. Before the XLR clip stops flying first to the Tripod. I will still rubberneck on such a self Absperrband it stuck, so that the cable is synonymous looks really good.

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"ef.multimedia" wrote: ... is me jack in the fall rather than if, despite all safety precautions with gawper someone should create on the cable to stumble, dropping the jack from the easy times. Before the XLR clip stops flying first to the Tripod ....
I would not with all the disadvantages of intent unbalanced jack connection einhandeln, s.allerwenigsten at a concert recording: There is simply balanced XLR duty. The overturning of the tripod in the event of the trip if you avoid the way, if you do not connect the cable taut suspense, but a few meters in the reserve loose ring, for example, the tripod is used - so far no visitor stumbles that the train will still s.Kameragehäuse ankäme ;-) A full installation of the cable in accordance with the above tips is of course apart from essential anyway.

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von K.-D. Schmidt:

Quote: A full installation of the cable in accordance with the above tips is of course apart from essential anyway.
And this includes safety rules synonymous according to a publisher of the cable that prevents pitfalls. And for the identification of such hazards is black and yellow tape required in exceptional cases it is synonymous red and white.

Greeting
KDS

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Antwort von r.p.television:

I am now car assumed LINE You get a signal on XLR.
This is very important.
Wonder you do not have any 50HerzBrummen power supplies and all sorts of influences such as mobile phones, etc. Had me near a stage with all sorts of possible confounding factors too risky.

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Antwort von M-Kult:

Hello,

with all the problems, I wonder whether there is a reason why the audio signal does not include external, HD, MD or CD and mail it in again this mix? small high-quality cables are günsitger a and b have no problem passersby.

Why should the signal directly into the camera?

Best Regards

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Antwort von ef.multimedia:

Ok, thank you for your answers. I think in my case an external recording would be the best. But with the atmosphere, I will in any case observed.

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Antwort von M-Kult:

Have still found something where I had to think s.Dein projects.

http://forum.slashcam.de/viewtopic.php?t=61759&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight =

That would be probably the reason for a direct feed of the audio signal into a Camera.

Best Regards

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Antwort von ef.multimedia:

Habe heut times with an audio specialist, in which said that the signal from the mixer can forget, for example, because the drums very quietly gepegelt because it is already of "naturally" loud.
And I can not Istrumente levels so as it fits me.
The best in my case would be an indicative micro s.den close boxes. Or 2 in the y position for stereo recording.
Has anyone ever made?

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Antwort von M-Kult:

If stereo, then I would be ORTF-Stereofonie tend.

See

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Antwort von veejay:

Hello,

at my last concert recording, I have the sound of the sum
fetched via XLR, was super.
For safety, I had my micro-directional ME 66 run, as always.
That sounded far from being as good as the sum. Especially the singing of the sum comes naturally better. Before the boxing Microfinance is usually so insecure and ugly thing.

Many greetings

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Antwort von Meggs:

"Dr. Walter Gesierich" wrote: mixing easier since many have only one symmetrical output, and goes s.die amplifiers. Other outputs are often unbalanced TRS outputs.


"ef.multimedia" wrote: Honestly, I jack in the fall rather than if, despite all safety precautions with gawper someone should create on the cable to stumble, dropping the jack from the easy times.

"Bernd E." wrote:
I would not with all the disadvantages of intent unbalanced jack connection einhandeln, s.allerwenigsten at a concert recording: There is simply balanced XLR duty.


XLR and symmetry are not synonymous. XLR connectors can be asymmetrical, and jack connections can be symmetrical.
For a symmetric transmission requires a 3-wire cable, with either XLR or with stereo jack.
Some consoles have only one XLR output, but often there is an additional output (eg Controllroom) than 6.5 mm jack synonymous symmetrical.
If ef.multimedia XLR inputs and it has s.Camcorders ne jack connection is preferred, he could synonymous an adapter XLR / TRS balanced use.

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