Frage von KrischanDO:
Moin,
is not a really urgent issue. Rather, as a weekend issue.
I have even a SonyEX-1, a so-called "prosumer" camera. The meaning of the word and the positioning between the cam and leave the serious professional parts is already clear to me, but I wonder:
Is there really hobbyists to approximately ¬ 8,000 (rotating completed) for a company? The counterpart to the aforementioned happy "with the dentist Hasselblad?
And what makes the hobby with EX1 Prosumer and Co?
Regards
Christian
Antwort von Daigoro:
Is there really hobbyists to approximately ¬ 8,000 (rotating completed) for a company? I know people with 6000 euros (Pioneer) TVs (and again around 4000 Eur s.Zubehoer), 7,000 euros stereos and 30,000 euros for their Golf 08/15 to 'tuning'.
I kenn synonymous people who NEN any sport start - then the 3-4-digit range and buy the equipment after training 2x then either gather dust or hit at Ebay.
Why should it (not synonymous when I know) does not give hobbyists, which is a Camera 'afford'.
The main target group is perhaps not. Rather, it stores, like ours, which with their cameras (at any speeches in's intranet to) not a cent and still earn good FX7 (3-4 pieces flew it around here) by any shoulder cameras have replaced.
Antwort von KrischanDO:
@ Daigoro
Da hast Du recht. Probably my question is, therefore, that I never amateur filmmakers or amateur video Dreher was.
Sure, my saxophone is synonymous in the "professional class". Because the student is not easy to play and because I now know that it is not s.der pot, if it sounds modest. ;-)
Regards
Christian
Antwort von Daigoro:
Da hast Du recht. Probably my question is, therefore, that I never amateur filmmakers or amateur video Dreher was. I do not synonymous, honest gesacht. I'm Vidéographie to come because I have my (real) hobby and wanted to have recorded else None Camera ne me or had not wanted to borrow.
Therefore ne would Camera than 1000 euros for me synonymous never really in question - if I would have the coal, I would it's primary hobby stuck. : D
Equipment in good 4-digit, top 5-digit range for the enthusiast, there's almost everywhere (eg diving or golf can be quite beautiful in gehn's Money).
Perhaps the real ne Hobbyist really very own species, the synonymous much like money in its equipment is to a "quasi" Professional level to come.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Lol KrischanDO
Meet me constantly
- Family man with Mamiya and now synonymous D3 - Photos remain on Flash Card and Still Image wden when cooking at home even though the latest developed PC and Epson is very good - you prefer to buy directly halt ne new Flash Card - Still image quality is not in my shoe box camera from the 4 class - but it must indeed be the best in what the hit list of the Still Image Magazine Finds.
- People who wear Rolex and Omega and think my EZM 1 and Sinn EZM 2 watches come of the fashion house, - /
- Mountain bikers are Fullys for 8K buy scarce and not of its table tennis can bounce
- Motorcycle rider (such as. Synonymous my Dad), the only straight you can drive, brakes only in the driving school and have practiced it with scarce 20k bike ride in s.die Eisdiehle Disign Combined with Open helmet.
- People in the village of North Rhine-Westphalia D `live in its Mietswohnung furnished with IKEA furniture everything Sauber expensive clothes, my land and my house but little smile Money zm life and have no paid vorallem House
- People who buy MAC NEN then stand here and cry because no PC games to run - the MAC but it fits well with the organization.
- People who drive BMW 3 Series NEN of 8 years old and do not understand why my MTB and BMX bikes are more expensive than your car.
- People who say that Coke is healthier than grass.
- People who marry, but every weekend in the brothel and then go on Sunday go to church.
- People buy the Stratocaster and not even "a bed in a cornfield" can play.
- People who say the only true Blonde Fi ** en can.
- People only go out in the suit and the would-be Dr. of physics describe as idiots.
.........................
And so it goes next - like Dad said times
"You will in your life a lot of assholes and meetings with you have to work together, this does not mean that you yourself have become." I tell you I've been so many POSER know - there could be would normally take hours to tell stories. But what brings us the next - garnicht.
I have always had to be chen of people and kept'm not aware of some job bids went not only in circles sollche to slip.
Everyone has the right but is synonymous to halt what he wants and can afford - because no one wants what I write.
What concerns me is always sad when I see just how selfish some of the people living and acting. "The most my fridge is full"
The point I am more and more determined and this is the crux of the matter is why our society is how it goes at the moment your.
Yes it is, unfortunately, I can and will not understand it and will be my next thing and so synonymous eventually die happily.
MfG
B. DeKid
PS: All I know of professionals from the Art Scene and Sport are usually made of plain wood and have the same attitude as I, we live our lives and help others and get it with talent entgelted.
Antwort von KrischanDO:
Lol KrischanDO
...
- People who wear Rolex and Omega and think my EZM 1 and Sinn EZM 2 watches come of the fashion house, - / ... Sach ma nix against Omega! My Seamaster of 1956 and is still fit! :-)
I know what people you mean. Previously I was synonymous with Nervbeutel on the F3 or the Leica annoyed when the thick trousers have made today, I am glad about every hobby clippers, a D700 or D3 and purchases so that the unit cost decreases. ;-)
We are not synonymous, the "typical" Priorities: Auto - Television - 5.1 howler box - Malle. But no preference - everyone is on his way to have fun.
But back to the Prosumer Camera: The private use of> 3 kg - indeed requires more suffering than the willingness to wear a wristwatch robust. And more to learn, if you do not have the small green button to use. And good nerves, because you either angequakt is that you do not want to be filmed, or because a continuous Seppel jumps in front of the camera, "Hi" or wegrennt screams and waving and asking if he comes on TV now.
By Henkelmann in the hotel complex - but there comes a started immediately, because he believes that his Wanzenbude will soon be seen on television is ...
It must therefore give the true prosumer. None knows but one. :-)
As always synonymous - have a nice weekend!
Christian
PS: I'm after I twice during my Fortis Flieger Chrongraphen the pushers have warped (water inlet), with a Tutima Military Chronograph happy.
Antwort von happythewicked:
From what you have is not a hobby filmmakers more?
If one of the Filmerei can live, or if you know a little more than a sun holiday and children's growing up-when-audience film?
At home I have a XH A1, an HV30 and a Schnittpc for 2500 Friday
My colleague has the same setup, and cuts on a XPS 720th
We film vorallem performances of bands from the region, make video clips for bands and Support Befreundete so the scene here so.
Am I now a prosumer?
Have experience as a video journalist, but eingentlich I've taught myself everything, and in the practical handling halt learned.
Antwort von KrischanDO:
From what you have is not a hobby filmmakers more?
... This is a flexible viewing. I think this hobby is listening to, if you seriously tried to shoot with the money to earn.
95% of holiday and family and once a year the tape from the buddy film for a crate of wine is a hobby.
The hobbyist is often the activity is more important than the outcome.
The Hobbyist not considered: this purchase pays for itself? But finds the XY and hat einfach geil fun s.der technology, quality and s.der (mischievous view) s.der operation free to renew his external reproductive organ. It was gegönnt.
I can Filmerei of the synonymous (still) not live, I have yet to photograph. I make almost no pictures of my family or in other private sector, because I make more photos.
But I train, the EX-1 pretty much around to do anything to try or just to practice. The clubs which I have had happy with photos, videos get now. Makes me just more fun, is new, after decades of photography.
Where you can, what you are doing is absolutely no preference. There are photographers without any specialized training, which photograph ten times better than I do. The "unskilled" are often about their subject (scientists, sociologists, extreme sports "in the business. When the climbers s.einer hand swings over the precipice or the polar bear does handstand is shaping secondary.
Regards
Christian
Antwort von pailes:
KrischanDO,
I do not have my EX1 and Henkelmann weighs only 1.8 kg, but I only movies with a passion, earning no money and did so anyway in 4000 ¬ + HD Cam invested.
What was your question again? ;-)
Antwort von domain:
Well, ¬ 4000th - go still, for me it was more like 10-20-fold for various dreams (travel, sports and Motoräder) and synonymous for Ausbrechenwollen from the kamasutramäßigen normality, but does my loo so synonymous from:
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Antwort von deti:
... is with me like that. The house is in poor condition, but the woman is still quite well together:
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(All contributions are totally serious!)
Antwort von shipoffools:
@ Domain
Wow!
Do you have those of "Trainspotting" your toilet as a "Location" leave?
;-)
Antwort von KrischanDO:
... but this is my toilet still synonymous as follows:
... Respekt! How did you get it up in the boardroom of Hypo s.Est * R * te (was not otherwise due to spam filters) managed?
Regards
Christian
Antwort von domain:
... is with me like that. The house is in poor condition, but the woman is still quite well together:
For God's sake!
Your situation is so in all directions, much more extreme than for me.
Still on the image you see a luxury situation: shopping at Billa (potato and sausage) it otherwise would be only the Aldi on the Picture was available.
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Antwort von deti:
... but without a house we now live in the forest. The sofa, we still can save:
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Antwort von domain:
LOL ...
But the mistress is very sweet.
Their lives of air and love, not too bad .......
Antwort von Videobodo:
Hello all video friends
I think the purchase of a so-called "prosumer" camera is quite mundane reasons. First, with the possibilities of a completely extinct TRV 900. In addition are the current s.die fun film, that is folded up display, extended arm, other hand in his pocket and then steered and zoomed hält.Bei was the stuff of technology is made minimal, just for the automatic filmmaker. Micro Headphones input and output for the good sound - without success. Does this group not synonymous. Not to forget the ever-shrinking recording chips in the devices with more and more and smaller pixels = less light-sensitive. So in short, Henkel men are almost the only way to get a device that all the desired properties for an amateur filmmaker in store - unfortunately!
And, synonymous with the consumer are to make good movies - the weakness is mainly the man / woman behind the camera.
Bodo
Antwort von deti:
@ domain:
How subtle you are the national flag of Austria as a mirror image in the right middle've built. I'm totally excited! What's it to you in Styria actually no MPREIS? That would not only a sign of luxury, but still synonymous of decadence. But the coffee is really good ;-)
Deti
Antwort von Vaido:
I am convinced that it is the prosumer. Eben the ambitious Teschendorf American hobbyists who like to go several thousand euros to spend on their hobby. I think these are often as retired engineers who simply for the whole drumrum interested, less on the aesthetic outcome of their shots.
How long is the prosumer, given the increasing convergence of professional video technology s.die consumer technology and will not, however, is questionable. 8 years ago I was at our Reginalsender in the house, and was incredibly pleased with all of the related technology, etc. In the meantime, I have the shooting itself with cutting-Mac, etc. for the hobby. Since a few weeks back I do an internship at Channel and had to realize that my hobby space by cutting almost even more of their nix Schittplatz differs (I have even a better editing program ;-)...
