Frage von Henni:
Hi,
we want to have a digital camera growth to a few moving images of our young to have, since this is more evidence than just photos. If we have a camcorder, it will of course be synonymous with the leave, but we are certainly not the kind of people, then with the camera running on reconnaissance tour.
Will say that the camcorder is used only occasionally, so anything other than great filmmaker.
I would not be mini-DV, because at home I use the following settings:
I have a NAS (network hard drive), on the Twonky as a multimedia server. I would like my videos directly on the network hard drive, because of this I then sent by wireless to stream television can.
I know that if I had tapes, they never play on the NAS would be, because too long or too cumbersome. Furthermore, I will still each film in a "stream-air 'format, as a native tape material is certainly not over WLAN is on stream.
In short: I need a hard (or similar) - camcorder.
We had ourselves a Christmas SonyDCR increased SR 32. This we have tried and have them exchanged, because we are not the picture was worth 400 ¬. I do not want to say that the picture quality now grotto was bad, it was us, not 400 euros' worth. "
We have outside, with lots of light, in low light, etc. filmed, have given us the results s.PC, s.kleinen tube TV Television viewing and s.LCD. On the small tube TV, the picture still s.besten. In any case, the picture was grainy, when the motives blurred and the colors faded. And yes, I had the best quality.
Each case was in the Picture Comparison significantly worse than the sample video, the man of the Aiptek Z300 HD Network finds.
I just shy of me Aiptek camcorder to buy, but I have no desire synonymous ¬ a 1000 camcorder to buy, just to make a few moving images of young catch.
I had a defective Sony? Meadow is so little on my opinion, poor image quality written? Do I have too high expectations s.Bildqualität a HDD camcorder?
Many greetings
Henrik
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Hi Henrik
So you can expect it, that a camcorder at a good year, operation, and that's your junior synonymous nice stuff more often seen than in the Krabel phase. Purchase what vernünpftiges (perhaps on rates) and then you can be the first film school, perhaps even the departure of the school.
Here's a 400 euro as a basic solution (is not often used anyway) to call is not appropriate. And to HD or not HD ... hmmm ... I own garkeine HD compatible Cam / TV and still have people of my movies / pictures sehn satisfied.
Mini-DV is also a good storage media and holds really good treatment for years. Sleep over it again and you decide for DV it is his money worth, especially if you have a lactation image feature off then on a separate memory pen (see Sony) Knipps can.
Is it my idea, which can save you s.andern things. (-: maybe diapers are made of fabric and then wash "joke" :-)
Alla wish much fun with the young and hope you überlegs it going again.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Henni:
I'm not high definition, this format as a reason for the purchase of an Aiptek camera seems to me absurd. If HD, then right. What I really want a decent price / performance ratio for my needs to get.
The Sony camcorder provided a picture in which I say that I have no investment Picture of ¬ 400 is worth.
But on the Internet some Aiptek example videos downloaded this s.PC and s.Television views and believe that they were better quality than the Sony camera.
This has me very puzzled, because I can not believe that these low-priced brand known as a product company at half price offers, the better quality than a Sony-branded product.
Therefore, I ask myself and the forum, if my impression is correct.
Either write jemnd here, yes you have right to purchase the thing, or I've overlooked something, etc. and get another tip.
I would be delighted if any, if I get a good camera, can either MPEG2 or MPEG4 to SD card or hard drive recording and delivers a good picture quality, or where at gelegntlicher only really use the price / performance ratio is reasonable.
Will certainly not me ¬ 1000-Camera growth (payment would not be necessary, just do not want to spend so much)
Regards
Henrik
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
But on the Internet some Aiptek example videos downloaded this s.PC and s.Television views and believe that they were better quality than the Sony camera.
The only way: take your own example with the video cameras of your choice, preferably under identical conditions.
As you'll quickly see how it makes the quality really is.
If I would work for Aiptek (I have myself just bekreuzigt), then I would have a few ideas synonymous to the results of these parts clearly aufzuhübschen. This includes working with other digital products, and plenty of pep-up is not enough.
BG
Andreas
Antwort von Daigoro:
I would start here:
http://www.videoaktiv.de//images/bestenliste/bestenliste.pdf
Since it's hard with camcorders among the top rated but closely synonymous, especially <500 euros. The 'big' Sony are good but this - the 32 is holding somewhere in 'also ran'.
A first impression you can give here:
http://www.videoaktiv.de/content/section/4/57/
In particular, relatively between 2 cameras but sometimes you can see major differences in the Still Image.
This includes working with other digital products, and plenty of pep-up is not enough. Before going digital with Pep-Up Movies verhunzte trying to save, you should synonymous' Worst Anfaengerfehler '(article here somewhere) and everything else for it to be read einstieg times are studying. : D
Point & Shoot halt rarely brings good results.
edit: here is the introduction of virtually all the articles worth reading:
http://www.slashcam.de/artikel/index.html
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
This includes working with other digital products, and plenty of pep-up is not enough.
Before going digital with Pep-Up Movies verhunzte trying to save, you should synonymous' Worst Anfaengerfehler '(article here somewhere) and everything else for it to be read einstieg times are studying. ... dealt so synonymous only to the
possible Anhübschen of demo clips from the Manufacturer.
Antwort von Daigoro:
... dealt so synonymous only to the possible Anhübschen of demo clips from the Manufacturer. Oh, sorry .. misunderstood: (
Yes well, who would voluntarily halt the worst shots the camera can make his point. :)
Antwort von ussi:
Hi,
we want to have a digital camera growth to a few moving images of our young to have, since this is more evidence than just photos. If we have a camcorder, it will of course be synonymous with the leave, but we are certainly not the kind of people, then with the camera running on reconnaissance tour.
... Only I shy me of Aiptek camcorder to buy, but I have no desire synonymous ¬ a 1000 camcorder to buy, just to make a few moving images of young catch.
...
Many greetings
Henrik 1. Looking for a camcorder of whom you ask exactly what a camcorder can be
2. Your "claim" but restricts the choice for an international drama
Since reminds me a little s.die people who come into a dealership and a car to buy ... Airbag - I do not need, ABS - I do not need, safety belts - I do not need ... But I will only go so - and that as soon as possible and if it is synonymous with no petrol.
Take me there are not bad - but the pictures of your own child You will see a lifetime and there are sayings like "... so just a few moving pictures of the talent to catch ..." I believe, misplaced.
If you want the "pleasure" s.Shooting still grabs, will you in the A. ... bite, then, that the most valuable pictures are the worst. And Nochwas: I would not buy more SD camcorder - no preference on what.
And finally Nochwas: ever thought about the time you are with the capture of a mini DV tape save drangehängt might be partly to very specific codecs the disk in a recording of your Media Server compliant format?
My tip would be an HV 20 / 30 or HC 7 / 9 - Investment 800 - 1000 ¬ so you're certainly capable of the above mentioned things synonymous to
Purchase what vernünpftiges (perhaps on rates) and then you can be the first film school, perhaps even the departure of the school. Last note: most people buy a new car more than a new camcorder - should read: if the collision after the first notice that ABS would have been better yet, look at next synonymous to it!
Antwort von Jan:
If the amount is not to be on kicks, would be in the current situation of the Panasonic SDR H 20, Picture forth clearly the number 1
The SonySR 32 is rather mixed, it helps more of the Sony name as the image quality in their lies.
With an HD television or an HD presentation of the H 20 is synonymous but the wrong choice, because a 576i only 414,720 pixels Camera outputs - such as the PAL Group in general halt. A Picture for up to 2 million inflate does not hold good, because you can synonymous to Topriege the standard definition consumer camcorders like Panasonic mention GS 500 (MiniDV) & H 250 (HDD), SonyHC 96 (MiniDV) & SR 290 (HDD ) - there will be no more ....
The purchase date is more than bad.
Things are just so much in recent days at the 4 major video companies Sony, Panasonic, Canon and JVC.
Among the new models:
JVC MG 3xx harddrive
Zb JVC has some interesting ideas, a very novel handling "laser touch", or a DV output s.der docking station (owned 2007 Some besserausgestattete models), so that the average filmmaker happy with pretty much any software can be cut.
The Focal is synonymous with approximately 36 mm, so what good thing in the room with a reasonable wide.
The highlight is probably the different color of the MG 330 & 331, with video cameras are still not properly of a known company fabricates, JVC will do it well, Casio has been in the photo yes Provided the sector with a variety s.Farben big & nice design einzuheimsen market, the JVC MG 330 & 331 comes in silver, black, ruby red or sapphire blue - courage! In Japan it is customary to just about every model in 5 colors that are now the conservative Germans tuned ....
Canon has finally synonymous as expected memory models rausgebracht, partly synonymous with internal memory with 8 GB (FS 10) or 16 GB (FS 11) or FS 100 - the good (EIA 399 ¬)
All 3 have a microphone input, very unusual in the price category, and as of JVC and Sonygewohnt - a more accurate battery condition indicator.
The new Full HD models are the HF 100 & HF 10 (16 GB internal memory), 17 Mbps data rate sek finally sounds interesting. The cameras are already beyond the 1000 ¬.
Sony Hard drive:
Sonyhat synonymous nachgelegt, SR 35 & 36 - successor to the SR 32nd Can Sony now synonymous the video data on a memory card, when the SR was not yet 32. Face Index and Film Roll Index (faster playback determination) have now synonymous simple models - the role was last year even the expensive models AVCHD denied.
Full HD models are SR 10, 11 and 12th
The Face and manufactured so that the picture holds for the optimization videocameras detail.
The first reflex of the Sony A 100 (later at the 2007 digicams) Processor BIONZ famous main feeder holds for the cameras, just like the new ClearVid CMOS sensor with Exmore derived technology. Optical stability is synonymous s.Bord.
Panasonic has the full HD devices now synonymous with a hard drive - HS 9th 25 P real one knew only of Canon (zb HV 20 & 30), the HS 9 it may be synonymous. XvColour color is now synonymous Panasonic into the program, the next Viera TVs to show it can.
The Face of the recordings is synonymous Panasonic digicams in the face detection yes 2007 One of the most renewals. Up to 5 faces, the HS 9 show times if the faces look very close to his head and look into the camera, as with many cameras ....
SD 9 is the new SD 5, they say the smallest AVCHD Camera on the market, in the equipment of the same HS 9.
What the models really will be in the next week and months show. If a purchase needs to be faster, the amount is not higher than ¬ 400 may be, I would take the H 20. Otherwise, I would still wait a couple of weeks ...
VG
Jan
Antwort von Henni:
Have a Aiptek Z300HD only anden. Were even one for 199 ¬.
First impression:
The images (dark, indoors, Beleuchtuntg) are certainly better than the SR32-SonyDCR in comparable situations.
Really! Can hardly believe it.
The pictures of the Sony products much faded, in movement, everything was blurred. Only the sound is better on Sony.
Will they still daylight outside and test before I decide whether I keep it.
They had synonymous nor a JVC GZ-MG131 for 299 ¬.
Has anyone here with experience?
Regards
Henrik
Antwort von Daigoro:
They had synonymous nor a JVC GZ-MG131 for 299 ¬.
Has anyone here with experience?
You do not really bothered, the links at the top times, just right?
Or the slain long contribution of Jan to read? * sigh *
Antwort von r.w.t.f:
@ Henni
my condolences - I hope you get a boy, so you then synonymous W "beautiful" Memories can produce.
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
Resolutionhat in the Aiptek Z300HD yes better cards, AF and stabilizer is not on Sony's level. I've only had trouble with Aiptek, and they are banished from the company. Only digital picture frames are still in range. One of those can keep what you want.
The MG 131 is a bit better (not worlds) from the Picture than the SR 32, SR 32 has improved but the sound. The Recommendation remains with Panasonic SDR H 20th
The MG 330 & 331 are the successors of the MG 130 & 131st
Yes the article is somewhat long, I wanted only the innovations of the 4 companies briefly - brief halt was not.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Jan:
Update JVC MG 3xx series.
The MG 330 comes in silver, red and blue. The red and the blue in the original camera work a little bit darker than the images on the Web at JVC & Video Active.
MG 331 only in silver, the 435 & 465 available in black.
Laser Touch is very nice, is better than I had feared.
It is gentle or rough surface on the laser "rumstreichen".
Still Image and Video are synonymous to MicroSD card (mobile friends are looking forward), it can even between HDD and MicroSD freely copied, HDD synonymous with MicroSD.
Initial impression was good, but the cameras are damn small.
The new direct burner (CU-VD 3 EX) for the MG models make a good impression, is now just as big as a mini laptop, then it is for about 160-190 ¬.
VG
Jan
