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Frage von campkudd:


Hi, I wanted me to buy a video camera soon, my upper limit, the maximum is 300 ¬.
With the camera I want to record concerts both as synonymous family matters.
Can you give me a specific model which we especially recommend good concert shots-how?
When the Camera should I buy before or after Christmas

Schon mal Danke in advance and I hope you can help me



Antwort von Chezus:

For 300 euros you will not get good concert so you can make shots. I wanted to synonymous. Now I have a camcorder for more than 1000 euros.

Canon MV 900 or Nachvolgermodelle



Antwort von campkudd:

So you would recommend me this here Canon MV 900 what do you think here of the Panasonic NV-GS27 or JVC GR-DF425E. Can those with which to start? Concert recordings are possible? What is s.besten?



Antwort von Chezus:

Honestly: with the search (especially on Google) will give you your question answered. Several times.

Everyone always asks after these camcorders and always had a response on it, so for you but what will be synonymous. I do not quite frankly because I do not own them. The Canon cam I've ever hergenommen and since I know that they are less than 300 euros to have them is I hingeschrieben.

You can order concert film, you can, however, synonymous with a mobile phone to film a concert only is the sound then override (most probably) and the Picture for more than modest.

The more money you ausgibst get the better quality du After Christmas is usually cheaper everything again.

My rat s.dich: you buy the Panasonic NV-GS 180, synonymous if they contain more than 300 euros will cost.



Antwort von Jan:

Slashcam love in the last few days we have again increased the variety s.Fragen:

"I want concert videos with a 300 ¬ Camera make
"I like Hollywood movies with a 300 ¬ Camera make
"I would like Gladiator Movies Look Like movies with a 300 ¬ Camera make
"I would like to take stock of dark night with a Panasonic GS 27 without highlight good films to make"

Strangely, I read such questions in other forums hardly Slashcam is the focal point of such special issues, or make some guests have a fun again?

Diesesmal I hope it is not a gag.

Why have I been in the 1000 ¬ 3 Chipper Panasonic GS 500 with manual Tonaussteuerung a queasy feeling when I again tomorrow, an interview and possibly a concert film should. Because even the absolute minimum requirements Camera in Sound & Picture for inclusion as a difficult situation, as long as one has a certain claim.

Okay. Where you take the sound come from?
If directly picked up, then take SonyHC 23rd

Off 2 reasons, if is too bad with the lighting conditions, you get with NightShot Pros probably still the best pictures - especially with movement, Sonyhat so synonymous with the best stabilizer and the fastest AF Auto Focus when the stay is.

Who you sound like me from the mixer Tonchefs can take a camera with microphone input - Canon MV 900 / Panasonic GS 180 or the main JVC GR D 425th 425er The JVC has a surprisingly good sleep Picture in light of the low-priced category, the image error and the dull sound make things again but not as optimal. Tripod will not forget it.

VG
Jan



Antwort von rapunzelchen:

ever grateful, ne verarsche hab is no real intent to purchase, I think at times the least gives me the concise tonmann s.den mixer stuck



Antwort von Jan:

Yes, if I have a cable jack in the hand or the camera runs on a power supply - the tickets are already bad for us - so the gray one Tonchefs.

For a nice question, a little luck, maybe little relationship to the people, an XLR times it is not so impossible to XLR Male - the entrance to the professional sound you can find but not s.einer 300 ¬ Camera.

Stay at SonyHC 23 / 24 or 35, the 44er is probably too expensive, which come in my opinion nor s.Besten with such a difficult situation to navigate.

VG
Jan



Antwort von rapunzelchen:

Sorry for dopplepost, but have found no edit button?

The SonyHC 23 seems quite good, but the only thing that bothers me is the lack of audio input, so there are a similar model synonymous with audio input?



Antwort von Jan:

AV input or microphone input, or both?

That will be expensive at first, the Sony HC 96th

For the concert is the microphone input for a 300 ¬ camera, as long as there is on the camera is not as practically synonymous. I assume s.das a Rhode Videomic or Sennheiser MKE 300 for a good 90 ¬ is too expensive?

For a cheap Hama for 50 ¬ or the like is the sound is not significantly better than the built of Sony, only the above make a real sense.

Or AV In for digitizing old analog recordings?

VG
Jan






Antwort von rapunzelchen:

jep for mikrofon, brauch I eigendlich necessarily or does the camera synonymous properly without the service?
SonyDCR-HC 24 E and SonyDCR-HC 23 E, where is the difference and what does the "E"?



Antwort von Jan:

As I said if you s.ein Micro in the class under 50 ¬'ve thought, brings very little. Video Active has even the 90 ¬ Zoomikro SonyHGZ 1 is a very streaky test, in principle, equally well with the built-up to the potential noise band - you at a concert anyway so do not have, because quiet is not guaranteed.

For me, only makes a micro s.dem Rhode Videomic or the Sennheiser MKE 300 a sense of sound to really improve.

Ok champion Markus has synonymous with the favorable times Hama started, but I and my customers (the 50% to bring it back) does not hold as much of the ¬ 50 things .... You need to know.

E is here displaced Sony, the 24er, I had never in his hand, was I think ne 23er with remote control and more digital zoom ....

VG
Jan



Antwort von Markus:

"Guest" wrote: ... and what does the "E"?
See here:
" Unterschied HC1 and HC1E
" difference SonyDCR-HC17 and-HC17E
" Unterschied zw. SonyDCR-HC85 and -HC85E?
" difference SonyTRV120 and TRV120E?

Sorry, I could not help me. But you must know, with which search is tracking these contributions (ie, one must in this case the solution is to know ... "the difference Europe"). ;-)



Antwort von spinakis:

What do you think of the following models of Canon MV950, SonyHC35, JVC GR-D 360 or Panasonic GS27.

Or would you prefer a SonyHC of those 23 / 24 or 35th

Court can someone tell me to buy model X is s.besten

MFG



Antwort von spinakis:

"Anonymous" wrote: What do you think of the following models of Canon MV950, SonyHC35, JVC GR-D 360 or Panasonic GS27.

Or would you prefer a SonyHC of those 23 / 24 or 35th

Court can someone tell me to buy model X is s.besten

MFG It is in this price class and with your knowledge of something but scheißno preference ...
google stop and buy some



Antwort von steveb:

Joerg wrote:

Slashcam love in the last few days we have again increased the variety s.Fragen:

"I want concert videos with a 300 ¬ Camera make
"I like Hollywood movies with a 300 ¬ Camera make
"I would like Gladiator Movies Look Like movies with a 300 ¬ Camera make
"I would like to take stock of dark night with a Panasonic GS 27 without highlight good films to make"

Strangely, I read such questions in other forums hardly Slashcam is the focal point of such special issues, or make some guests have a fun again?

Diesesmal I hope it is not a gag.

I think that this trend can hardly stop. Apparently, the "I think Slashcam first in Google" probably crucial problem that many newbies here as the first (and only just as synonymous here) ask.

We will in many years can say that they have all learned Slashcam! :-)



Antwort von spinakis:

So what should I take?

Canon MV950
SonyHC35
JVC GR-D 360
Panasonic GS27.
SonyHC 23
SonyHC 24
SonyHC 35

?

Please advise me of where



Antwort von Markus:

"steveb" wrote: Strangely, I read such questions in other forums hardly [...] Apparently, the "I think Slashcam first in Google" problem is crucial for ...
So I see the synonymous. Shame that we have for the other video forums are the same, like Jupiter in our solar system. ;-)

"Without a host name" wrote: So what should I take?
I can only advise others what I would buy even synonymous. None of the camcorder would be listed, but my claim s.einen camcorder (in terms of picture, sound, connections, manual functions) is synonymous comparatively high.

If you have no difference between the camcorders listed can represent, for example, interfaces that you necessarily want to have, then it's really no preference, what you take, right?



Antwort von StefanS:

Purchase the GS27 and stop the thread with the feedback that you've bought it synonymous with nix and others

Greeting
Stefan

PS: ... and ask me please, please do not understand why now, I'm going to have recommended this model, you want the answer do not know






Antwort von OSCHSPICE:

So I got me now for the Panasonic GS27 decided is 4 times the price performance winner and 2 times test winner.
Now only the small question, where should I buy, the Internet ... or where?



Antwort von StefanS:

Purchase at any rate on the internet. Do you want but probably not in all seriousness, 10 or 15 euro pay more than necessary? And for so weak witty things like

... in the case of the use of a device to ensure the confidence of the dealer around the corner or in the next bear market chain to be able to charge it instead s.einen Internet retailer in Hintertupfing submitted

... the device during Dealers of confidence around the corner or the next time in the market chain calm before the purchase and then try them. Oh, no, you do it anyway, then buy it but maybe $ 10 cheaper at Internet merchants.

... etc.

So buy please, please on the internet.

When finally all would, would have the advantage synonymous, that the two large chains now make at last. Then Jan finally had the time, the whole day here in the forum for its current hardware knowledge inform rather synonymous nor his time with the stupid, which go into a shop to fritter. At least as long as he Harz4 of support to date remains.

Greeting
Stefan



Antwort von OSCHSPICE:

"Stefan" wrote: Purchase in any case on the Internet. Do you want but probably not in all seriousness, 10 or 15 euro pay more than necessary? And for so weak witty things like

... in the case of the use of a device to ensure the confidence of the dealer around the corner or in the next bear market chain to be able to charge it instead s.einen Internet retailer in Hintertupfing submitted

... the device during Dealers of confidence around the corner or the next market chain in peace times before purchasing and then try them. Oh, no, you do it anyway, then buy it but maybe $ 10 cheaper at Internet merchants.

... etc.

So buy please, please on the internet.

When finally all would, would have the advantage synonymous, that the two large chains now make at last. Then Jan finally had the time, the whole day here in the forum for its current hardware knowledge inform rather synonymous nor his time with the stupid, which go into a shop to fritter. At least as long as he Harz4 of support to date remains.

Greeting
Stefan

Thank you explain us the world.
What we would do without you.

Maybe you then have a single synonymous tip handy when you have a camera with good quality advice can buy?



Antwort von OSCHSPICE:

would you me NEN good internet store can recommend where I guarantee in the event of synonymous everything works without problems?



Antwort von StefanS:

"Anonymous" wrote:
Maybe you then have a single synonymous tip handy when you have a camera with good quality advice can buy?

But sure, my dear?

Look at Jan's profile, there you will find the city where the store's chain, in which he rumtreibt. Now you have only yourself to Jan to find and voila:

You may not be the only ones, but a competent place, and that with only a single tip :-)

Greeting
Stefan

PS: I'm not sure whether you might need to register in advance before you can see the profiles



Antwort von prem:

where I beomm cheap cassettes ago, what does it cost ne DV cassette so roughly, would like to buy 5-10 Tapes



Antwort von Markus:

"An unnamed guest wrote: where I beomm cheap cassettes ago, what does it cost ne DV cassette so roughly, would like to buy 5-10 Tapes
This sounds very much to have a Troll on. With the Internet there are countless price information (eg price search engines, online shops ,...), in technology markets can be "genuine" and even compare the nearest large supermarket (RealAudio, etc.) provides an answer to this question. * * kopfschüttel



Antwort von Jan:

Thank you Stefan, but there are tens of millions of others to a similar consumer level. In most cases, but rather in the stores, rather than the "big" markets to be found, no preference whether Media, Saturn, ElectronicPartner etc.. Yes, some in my chain really undermost Nivaeu, preferably Media Markt.

But in a good synonymous dealer pushes the seller in a forever-long consultation, where the customer is constantly all systems and models will change, sometime in its 300-500 ¬ Camera before the latch.

But you must beware. Most customers come to us, just nice to try out the devices, ok've no problem with it.
But a large part is so brash really intense 30-60 minutes to advise that he has already known that he buys on the Internet.

I've now had 4x resist ca. Sometime tells the seller in the sale then stop talking times only a minimum, and s.Anfang is not so much in detail, who umpteen times in vain forever long and advises not sold, and even better than the customer within 2 weeks comes back (with the recommended Camera - purchased on the Internet) and again a 20 min consultation for the ¬ 19.99 Bag wants. Then you can understand us synonymous - not an isolated case.

That my chain with the stupid sayings advertising skin itself is a purely true.

At the moment, the actual product the customer buys, really minor, you have him give a good feeling. Many people
simply does not want to make mistakes, unfortunately, the models broadly similar - no preference whether SonyHC 23, GS 27 or Pana Canon MV 900 - which is usually just a matter of taste, which the customer is usually the seller s.mich process. The customer makes in almost all cases no error.

Also a camera with a sign test winner is at once much better off, a JVC GR D 650 without the "Test Winner" Someone buys little.

Is the same here, I understand that sometimes it does not, what if I like it better I take it and do not be around forever.

VG
Jan



Antwort von StefanS:

Jan, with me running as you open doors. But, unfortunately, read the "Rolls Royce for the price Beetle" buyer neither your nor my post correctly.

It is quite frightening how geizgeile, saubillige advertising slogans (no allegation s.Dich) within a very short time the mentality of an entire people can influence. Because now, one wonders really whether these Schwachmaten all really believe.

I've written several times and will never tire of, it is synonymous to do next, synonymous when one or the other guest as an explanation of the world or Weltverbesserei interprets that one, no preference what you buy, always pretty much the equivalent of the money gets you spend.

I think I will in the future, all that these Tschibo / Aldi and god knows what 99 Euro 5in1 devices have envisaged, in its intention to support, because they do not deserve better.

I will probably not even your job at risk, because a large portion of those and then after the bitter disappointment at the free Fehlberatung in the free internet for you and your colleagues will show up :-)

Head high

Greeting
Stefan






Antwort von Shiwa:

Now I just have one final question for me can someone NEN link to his shop where I enter Camera (GS27) and both cassettes suitable to get a good price.

So would be super nice if someone NEN link to his shop would have trusted.

Thanks in advance



Antwort von Chezus:

But now listen to. You do not tell me that you do not shop on the Internet. Trusted Shops is to thousands.

Have you never at Amazon? Look at it, enter an AND GS27 you get your camera for 255 euro. Cassettes available in all versions.

Now tell me what it is so difficult? And I think Amazon is with s.Vertrauenswürdigsten.



Antwort von Shiwa:

Amazon is 20 ¬ but on normal price



Antwort von Chezus:

Then look at günstiger.de there are even reviews of dealers here. In addition, Amazon requires no postage.
What you prefer? Save 20 Euro and possibly a dubious Dealers s.der Angel or Service of the Amazon use. I've always had good experiences.



Antwort von Shiwa:

if for the EP or Media Markt stores online orders can be determined but synonymous in the store the goods or return? Ist doch sowas s.besten in order and preferred since 10 ¬ to pay more



Antwort von Jan:

For this reason, there Media Online, the Internet just to willing customers are not in the business want to buy, cushion. It is synonymous very rare that a media market, the same price as online media participate. For this reason gibts Media Online.

Yes clearly takes Media Markt / Saturn no preference where purchased your camera s.and sends them to the nearest repair shop for you, this is at least in most cases like that. But it could also be of the repair shop and from manufacturer directly, where a letter to the guarantee may be rejected. I admit this is relatively rare, I habs at company Canon ever noticed, in a gray.

But even at the Media Markt gray crap builds correctly, came a few months. There was unbelievably a Canon SLR camera to a damn good internet price. Unfortunately, not with Media Canon in Wittlich These ordered, but on a Dutch distributor - to the Internet mitzugehen price. After the initial warranty cases, the Canon refused to gabs ne veritable flood of complaints, as my chain with Canon once again put together and negotiated a deal, so that the customer properly their 1 year Canon warranty claim here could.

A 100% always ensure 100% of unused equipment, 100% genuine full warranty available on the Internet does not stop, even after the company's relatively high rate but no dung to make the purchase (Amazon / Redcoon / Online Media).

One or the other wonders determined "Is the Jan to saublöd?" as a business seller here even give hints to the Internet. Well, I've learned here synonymous lot of users like Markus and others since I am here, let synonymous give a little back, synonymous the expensive Adobe program I with a little luck (God's hands?) Had won here, I was very pleased synonymous .

VG
Jan



Antwort von krsek1:

've now ordered EP Panasonic with 10 bands and surname for just 263 ¬, which are synonymous with their proximity was an Dealers indicated, listed what should be if I can submit as synonymous ...

But synonymous price is seen quite OK or?



Antwort von Jan:

Well then I am with my GS 24 (identical GS 27) with base price 249 ¬ synonymous not so bad. Good 13 ¬ for 10 tapes, for me, not so easy.

VG
Jan



Antwort von krsek1:

isn what the difference between 27 and 24 gs only color and size or what, my GS 27, but synonymous for German EU goods trade, deine synonymous?






Antwort von Markus:

Hi Jan, Hi Stefan,

It really burns me, your contributions to come from you and in your view, to support them. However, I am missing in view of the thread course the words currently ...

* Irony on *

I will really cheap! Guarantee no preference, quality no preference, no preference everything! Main schööön cheap. Stinginess is cool and I just want to have everything, but nothing to pay. Pity that no one in Kazaa camcorder can download. I would do it!

Good, a little money, I will probably have to spend, but not guaranteed cents too much! (* hehe *) And so it synonymous much guaranteed not to be shy myself before windiest Onlineshop, of whom I never heard of and located in Poland should be, not back, because again they are cheaper than 10 ¬ all the others. How cool!

I get a camcorder for 250 ¬, of practically the same as making a recording for ¬ 2,500. The other buyers are all totally stupid, if they contain more money than I spend for so little! But I'm not stupid! I buy cheap and warrior for the right lot. Shit on the law of economy, this applies to me! Others receive only the respective value for money, but I get this a lot. Geil, oder?

Good, the online store I could not even call and the delivery did not synonymous, even if the device is in stock, but it will not take so long. I have the invoice so synonymous equally paid in advance, so that it goes very quickly.

Okay, now I wait to hold the camcorder. The need now arriving here every day, I still wait some time for the delivery. Tomorrow will be 18 weeks and I have been synonymous terror made. But the online is not longer responding more to my mails ...

* Irony off *

If ichs quite remember me, then I will be on such issues in the future, probably to hold back and simply nothing more to write. The questioner had finally the opportunity at any time (had), the previous experiences and advice anzulesen, because everything is so visible to everyone in this forum.

And if they are not informed and no one with the question, they will have their experience. - What is then synonymous always will be. ;-)



Antwort von ChrisCrossGi:

"campkudd" wrote: Hi, I wanted me to buy a video camera soon, my upper limit, the maximum is 300 ¬.
With the camera I want to record concerts both as synonymous family matters.
Can you give me a specific model which we especially recommend good concert shots-how?
When the Camera should I buy before or after Christmas

Schon mal Danke in advance and I hope you can help me

Look at times the Panasonic models - which have certainly synonymous a good model for you (under 300Euro) Moreover, the network that you can find many suppliers, which the cameras are very cheap offer. How can you so ne 500Eu Camera synonymous already getting less than 300. Simply show times at www.preissuchmaschine.de or similar search engines after! mfg



Antwort von Armin M.:

ey bist du ma Mark Lustig

DB irony a ... Noob, idiot

If you read through the whole time would, then would you synonymous remember our guest here reinpostet so he is not of thee we advertised cheap buys scrap and just because he's trying to save money is not the same in Poland and buy such a disc.
Sowas holes of you as I have long ne read more, but if you are satisfied, his every tick.
Oh yes, and who today still attracts Kazaa

For your contribution strong ... BUH synonymous when my now certainly clear that I had to go and hope you are still reads before.



Antwort von steveb:

it means "hollow" and not "holes "..... synonymous to you if anyone has ever said" Go get it ... "was meant by it" to get ".... and not "auszuholen". ... otherwise he would have said you have to "hollow out" ... but that is something else again ...



Antwort von Jan:

Armin so easy is always up to you someday yourself with an online shop reinfällst. Of course it may well go there synonymous provides good reputable online shops I do not deny. I know because my seller activity some people who have fallen purely synonymous (Clearly discarded equipment allegedly supplied then only weeks later supplied only on pre-paid - no camera will ever get on the final bill still 10 / 20 ¬ service fee drauf ( Bananamedianet.at), but no warranty geltent to make, etc. etc.)

Yes, the GS 24, GS 27 with the identical (features, accessories) - a special model for my chain. I just wanted to show this is not always worth the internet shop to buy it can be 10-20 times already synonymous ¬ difference, which are 3-5%, 100% for Germany product (therefore, we are synonymous expensive because we are in Wittlich, Cologne or Hamburg order) ist halt imports cheaper, or Distrubitoren in Holland & Belgium zb halt drew many people make.

And the device is equal to take advice sparing me now - depending on the seller and 100% secure guaranteed, free loan - if given, and free parcel service for repair is synonymous already worth ¬ 10-20.

Yes Mark I stress again the advertising slogans saudummen my stupefaction chain permanently probably several guests here.

VG
Jan



Antwort von Markus:

"Armin M." wrote: ... synonymous when my now certainly will be deleted ...
Why would someone delete your post? Freedom of expression should ultimately for all alike. I am the way, if you're a little bit about my "outburst" could amuse. ;-)



Antwort von Elena:

Moin Camera of DP is given after 1 day lasted hats by surname ... Super Thanks for advice here ... Panasonic GS27 saugeil

Oh, and still not question if the heads need cleaning at some point what you need as ne cassette, and how long I will now come out until about the times to be cleaned?



Antwort von StefanS:

The search with the term "cleaning tape" currently brings 141 results. The likelihood that useful information in there, is quite high :-)

Greeting
Stefan



Antwort von nightworker:

The cam hammergeil extent, but has the right NIGHTSHOT synonymous NEN or just the colored scheiß?






Antwort von rtzbild:

"Anonymous" wrote: The cam hammergeil extent, but has the right NIGHTSHOT synonymous NEN or just the colored scheiß?

Scheiß colored?

Was now very xenophobic and very idiosyncratic appointment of a shade?

Olli



Antwort von StefanS:

The Color is the NightShot adjustable.

- Green (standard)
- Yellow (optional)
- Blue (optional)
- Black (optional)

Greeting
Stefan



Antwort von Markus73:

"Stefan" wrote: The Color is the NightShot adjustable.

Hm, but not with the GS27, which is here.

Or have I misunderstood what?

Gruß,
Markus



Antwort von nightworker:

jep gs27 is about the find because of the cam and in the manual only fargigen NIGHTSHOT, but thought I had was somewhere with 0 lux read?



Antwort von StefanS:

"Markus73" wrote: Or have I misunderstood what?

Probably! That opens up, perhaps to read the entire thread.

What I forgot to mention:

In keeping with the adjustable background color in the NightShot is available on selected Internetflohmärkten often synonymous color matching cover, it's like for mobile phones. But are not quite so cheap.

Greeting
Stefan



Antwort von kaii:

"Chezus" wrote: For 300 euros you will not get good concert so you can make shots. I wanted to synonymous. Now I have a camcorder for more than 1000 euros.

Canon MV 900 or Nachvolgermodelle
Successor model, oh dear.
You're specialists



Antwort von Jan:

Chezus said probably erweiterterte / better-equipped models of the MV 900 MV So 930.950 or 960th

The concert recordings for the rich is not so clear, but you will get with the 9xx series of CF in the price class of the brightest & Lowlight Picture noise out of the class. Of course no comparison to
SonyVX or PD Series for a concert and really inappropriate - but they are almost all cameras under 600 ¬.

VG
Jan