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Frage von Blackeagle123:


Hey,

where exactly is one's own "Red" forum topic in the Forum Index? ;-)

1. A very quick question: Have I understood correctly, that one with the software "REDCINE (; BETA)" (; which can be downloaded from the Red-site can make) a white balance?

2. Transferred to the workflow always s.PC in 4k and is an Adobe 1/8-Auflösung? Or you transferred only in 1 / 8 resolution and then batched sequences? In the question I aim, primarily at the required space ...

Best regards,


Constantin

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Antwort von Blackeagle123:

- Push> Up!

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Antwort von Valentino:

"Blackeagle123" wrote: 1. A very quick question: Have I understood correctly, that one with the software "REDCINE (; BETA)" (; which can be downloaded from the Red-site can make) a white balance?
Ah, you'll soon have a project with the RED?
So actually you can with "REDCINE" make a white balance, but why so complicated.
The program is very cumbersome and slow, so if you can do it all with Adobe, then do it.
On the subject of white balance in the RED, so you really änderst nothing s.der RAW file but as composing your art LookupTabel in which you can then change the color temperature in which the raw file to display. Here you should not forget that the camera is set to chip the RED One for 5000k. If you download movies for tungsten, then a filter is of of 5000K to 3200K absolutely necessary, because the Picture (; in the blue channel otherwise) very strong start to rustle.

To your second question, I know CS4 with too little, but s.einem import of raw data into your system do not you come over.
You could, of course, synonymous with the program "RED Rushes" render your SD clips for offline editing, but then you need another time.
With the direct import of r3d clips in CS4, it should go s.einfachste and an additional hard drive does not synonymous the world over.

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Antwort von Blackeagle123:

Hey,

Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I have no video file in RAW format.
1) If I am such an import in Premiere, he asks right after the white balance? Then I could save it to me, of course, with "REDCINE work" on.


Quote: If you download movies for tungsten, then a filter is of of 5000K to 3200K absolutely necessary, because the Picture (; in the blue channel otherwise) very strong start to rustle.

2) If I adjust the picture later, but again, I must indeed Dispensing the blue color ". Then the noise should be gone but synonymous, right?


3) Can I file in the Premiere 1 / 4 resolution also with 1K and consider afterwards spend than 4k?


I would like to clarify the issues erstmal before I look at the RED for two days ausleihe for testing. The MUST (; at least for me) before a film project to be anyway.

Best regards,


Constantin

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Antwort von Valentino:

"Blackeagle123" wrote: 1) If I am such an import in Premiere, he asks right after the white balance? Then I could save it to me, of course, with "REDCINE work" on.
Yes you have the option, the color temperature when you import or synonymous later set, but the color temperature should remain at 5000k.
Quote: 2) If I adjust the picture later, but again, I must indeed Dispensing the blue color ". Then the noise should be gone but synonymous, right?
This then brings unfortunately synonymous nothing, because then the picture is again yellow stichig. For this reason, it makes the camera with 5000k or slightly higher, and are working with 80 filter, the filter on the Picture then about 5000kelvin.
Even if you can s.der Camera in CS4 or select a different value, it is not advisable, because the camera does nothing other than the blue channel to increase.
The RED is not compare with a 3 chip video camera, but rather with a film camera and light material.
Quote: 3) Can I file in the Premiere 1 / 4 resolution also with 1K and consider afterwards spend than 4k?
, Yes you can, although I still think 4k for something really big and 2k should be quite sufficient. The output format is standard 10bit DPX frames. This material can be synonymous again make a color correction s.einem higher quality system.
Quote: I would like to clarify the issues erstmal before I look at the RED for two days ausleihe for testing. The MUST (; at least for me) before a film project to be anyway.
I tell you just once before testing with RED files without having to rent the camera. This. R3D files, you'll find most of the net charge, but big up to 800MB.

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Antwort von carstenkurz:

How good is your read English?

I suggest you draw to you the various views of Red documentaries on various workflows, the manual for the RED One, and the software (; soon synonymous gibts da ne) brand new cool software. You can now RedRelay of Red Material of other people to download and trial and error. Without a prior thorough training you do not bring the two days a lot - in time you should not sit in front of the turning and Calculator. And so you can rotate, you just need to know beforehand what will be done afterwards with the material.

The Red One is not a camcorder, and the processing of the RAW format as white balance to describe is far too short.



- Carsten

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Antwort von Blackeagle123:

Hey,

We have filmed the movie, all the data already on the cutting-Calculator. We have a super Cuterin. And the material of the Red is just hammer geil.

I'm looking forward to the color correction.

The questions are only interested in me, not to be entirely haphazard there. And most of the detailed questions could tell me the cameraman.

But I think the quality really mad cool.

Best regards,


Constantin

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Antwort von Valentino:

Hey this is pretty synonymous to hear something positive about the RED workflow.
What program are you working?
I have been involved in the last production with the RED Media Composer workflow in great detail and find it synonymous not bad.
Unfortunately, there was no time for a test, how to make the cut list and cutting later via REDCINE to 16 bit log DPX files for the final master comes.

From the quality of the camera, I myself am still not really convinced, somehow I feel the pictures of a D21/F35 for natural and contrasting.
Comparison with a 35mm film camera as synonymous keeps all the other D-cinema cameras do not really stand, because the aperture size is simply too low.
But what is clear is that the RED is clearly better than all the other EB's HD cameras.

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Antwort von Blackeagle123:

Hey,

I think it comes through the soft picture of the raw format to a "movie-picture" very close.

The workflow was s.Anfang something kaotisch, but then worked out very well. There were some problems with Avid, because of plug-ins, etc. We do not work with FinalCut and not synonymous with Premiere CS4, as was originally being considered times. When the set Cuterin but has had, and transcodes the video data, everything went smoothly. We cut only 2k. Final version will of course be 4k.

So, we are very satisfied!

Best regards,


Constantin

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Antwort von Valentino:

"Blackeagle123" wrote: When the set Cuterin but has had, and transcodes the video data, everything went smoothly. We cut only 2k.
Since when the the Avid Media Composer 2k controlled or are you working with an Avid DS (; before.) Symphony?
Which Qualli have transcoded it, DNxHD 36 or 185?
Has anyone actually been times that of the new DNxHD is one of the codes such as the new ProRess of Apple is working with 4:4:4.

Regards Valentino

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Antwort von Blackeagle123:

I honestly do not know. But I am quite sure that we are doing in Media Composer half resolution = 2K. But was a very nice round and Her, has worked until this. But as I would have to ask again Cuteirn ...

Best regards,


Constantin

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Antwort von Valentino:

"Blackeagle123" wrote: I honestly do not know. But I am quite sure that we are doing in Media Composer half resolution = 2K. But was a very nice round and Her, has worked until this. But as I would have to ask again Cuteirn ...
Then you will probably in HD and have not cut into 2k, because in addition to the nearly 40 thousand euros expensive Media Composer, Avid DS, none of the products support a 2k cut. Quite apart from the support of Trancoding DNxHD codec HD and not just 2K.
For this reason, it can s.der RED One next to the picture sizes of 4k 2:1 (; 4096x2048Pixel) and adjust 4k 16:9 synonymous 4K HD, corresponding to 3840 times 2160 pixels. Thus, the nearly 4k of scale a lot easier to HD and converting a tick faster synonymous.

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