Frage von videotom:
Hello s.alle Filmer,
With interest I now have the long thread of MoritzK
Relating to read the light and looked at me for me been synonymous various Lighting and suitcases.
As I originally come from the electronics industry has for me the question:
What is the difference between a floodlight of Arri, Sachtler, etc.
and a beam from the hardware store.
Is this price difference justified? Is a halogen light in the light color and brightness does not depend on the bulb?
Did the renowned manufacturer's own headlights bulb types and access all back to normal trading program.
An example:
Some time ago I bought a friend for an aquarium fluorescent tube. Pet shop 19,00 ¬ Elektrogroßhandel ¬ 2.00.
Since coming to me, of course, for headlamps, the same questions. Especially when in some deals that we advertise the "even a plug with 3m cable" is present.
(Purchase value of approximately ¬ 7.00)
Thanks for your answers
Tom
Antwort von KrischanDO:
Moin,
to something apparently similar (both have comparable halogen burners in them) to what I have myself in the studio:
Arri Junior Pros: Fresnel lens spotlights, thereby neatly directed light, clean shadow edges, adjustable light angle, a circular patch of light with no hotspot defined light demolition, adapter with bracket for studio tripods, well-adjusted, splinter shield, barn door, filter holder, fat 5m rubber cable with wasserschütztem switch. First-class processing, tool-changeable burner, dauerhitzefest.
DIY Halo: Unclean light demolition, not adjustable, no switch, cheap short cable, no tripod adapter, the light comes out somehow, but no quality and is defined according to Art Manufacturers are smooth or textured reflectors, the light and irregular The ugly shadow. The paint usually stinks and peel off soon.
To anzuleuchten of a diffuser and rear, sometimes does not need Arris. But if we direct the light directly or with small scattering foil on the object, you can see the difference. And the price difference is worth it.
Who does not see the difference, does not need synonymous Arris.
The salonsozialistischen Jammereien "The little aluminum and glass but may not cost 400 ¬!" I can not take it seriously.
If you do not want to sell on Saturday with a little video rotation, but must work with light, the prof. Film Lights worth every euro.
The similarities stop when it comes to light. As the construction market is not looking for.
If you pass on to the customer with decent light, which looks like a film that is very reassuring for the customer. If you come with a cargo of building market-guns, he will ask himself: "What have I committed for a hobby Heiopei?"
Also: There are 4389 different lamp types. From tiny little LED lights on all sorts of spots to oil drum format, area lights in a thousand forms to helium-filled balloons with a few thousand watt lights in there.
Regards
Christian
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Is already clear, however, you need the fish 11 and 13 as a light color - ie 2 separate bulbs? (The numbers are assigned so as to Phillips - where the tubes 20 but not synonymous as 12 to 15 euros only) cost
One is the light for plants 11 blue / cool light 3200 and the other is the 13 ener reddish / warm glow to 5,400 for the Fischis or animals.
The standard tube is trimmed to mostly to 3200 Kelvin. And yes they can get cheap.
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The good reflectors have installed such as dimmers - some even cooler, what is missing so s.einem Bauscheinwerfer.
Otherwise, stop already make sense.
Maybe you said yes, the one where every detail because the differences are in the different lights and their functions.
But here we pay less to the more simple name rather than the entire technology and its benefits.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Elco:
... And the spare parts availability ... And the abundance s.Service addresses ...
Antwort von videotom:
Thanks for your answers,
@ B. DeKid: There were really the same light with the same power and same color of light, no default neutral white.
@ Krischan: I am absolutely not here to whine or stinginess. When things are really better, and I would gladly pay more. I have therefore asked for extra know your opinion.
Maybe a bit exaggerated compared with the construction market.
The rationale with the lenses and light angle is obvious.
Unfortunately, too often, I experience a serious price differences for the same (I could certainly compare) article.
There are already huge price differences between light sources and electrical goods and photographic trade Batteries.
Arris or have special synonymous Sachtler Headlight Bulbs?
Thanks and greetings
Tom
Antwort von KrischanDO:
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@ Krischan: I am absolutely not here to whine or stinginess.
Tom, you were not meant synonymous. But there are so calculate the species, the price of equipment according to the weight of the ingredients and not according to the logical function that lies therein.
When things are really better, and I would gladly pay more. ...
Arris or have special synonymous Sachtler Headlight Bulbs?
...
Tom If you are a diffuser / Butterfly of rear spotlight, you do not stand under production pressure, and third only to see out the result, construction lights are okay.
For everything else worthwhile, the real "official" parts.
In the Arris, I have "GE Showbiz T26" Brenner, the 650s have eight filament and a socket with a round and a square pin, for 12 ¬.
Whether it somewhere still in the "civilian" version is, I do not know.
Regards
Christian
PS: I am surprised again and again, as positive in the film industry, the word "officially assigned". Official exposure meters, tripods official, official whatever.
Where else anywhere "official" means any self-pissed.
Antwort von videotom:
OK Krishan Thanks,
You should probably take it no matter what real fired 200 ¬ hurts synonymous.
When I think about it long ago brought my tripod legs s.den in Libra ....:-)
But what do you have in use?
Gibts except carving Lichtset ebay and other sources for good used stuff?
Regards
Tom
Antwort von KrischanDO:
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But what do you have in use?
Tom I'm just a small advertising clippers with a lot of career changers angelesenem knowledge ...
Are, in my petrol light suitcase:
2 Arri Junior 650W Pros
1 ditto 300 W,
(plus tripods, barn doors, thick cotton gloves!), foldable reflector, screen, color slides (CTB and Colorful), Frost foil, wood clothespins, spare bulb, Gaffatape
Still on the shelf are three PAR64 Stage lamp 600W, which had started with me.
Lastolite addition of a 1 x 2 m Diffosor / Reklektor.
Since I Tripods and diffusers synonymous use for photography that has not hurt.
Regards
Christian
Antwort von carstenkurz:
If you look at the normal services in the light of the field look at it, we get the answer with a little thought of themselves
Of course Bauscheinwerfer are so cheap because they are built in huge quantities in low-wage countries and must meet any special requirements except perhaps VDE / TUV / GS. Then one time looking somewhere else and find PAR stage lights, seamlessly connecting the price s.The Bauscheinwerfer. Are produced in very similar quantities and under similar conditions as Bauscheinwerfer, and the price structure is synonymous similarly, taking into account its additional features. And s.der ordinary PAR-top cans is next then with simple theatrical spotlights, which allow for the first time variable beam shaping with simple adjustable reflector / lens units.
And then slowly S.da wirds interesting, the use of specific areas, as well as smaller quantities, the demand for quality higher, and the Prices, as well.
ARRIS that are more expensive than simple reproductions from low-wage countries has indeed a surprise to anyone, and it should be synonymous clear that the higher price is justified in part by real quality, partly by the mark, sometimes by secondary factors such as availability of spare parts.
That a fully equipped studio lights had outwardly and which is functionally quite different from a construction lights, should indeed be evident at the first viewing.
This is usually standard halogen bulbs, but of course there are differences as synonymous, because of the interpretation of this rather circular headlights, of course, takes no Stableuchtmittel, besides those things are usually more robust, vibration resistant, and designed more branded products. For a 500 watt Halostab cent 50 or you can pay 5 euros. And the difference is actually synonymous visible, or at least makes noticeable secondary (light efficiency, durability,) aging behavior.
- Carsten
Antwort von videotom:
Thanks s.Euch,
would then have the
http://www.lichtset.de/lichtsets/arri/arrilite-800---3.php
indeed be something quite decent.
Weis someone else a good place for used sets?
Regards
Tom
Antwort von KrischanDO:
Hi Tom,
Thanks for pointing www.lichtset.de!
The dispatch I knew not, I have my Arris of Thomann.
What do you want to illuminate it? Open 3 x 800 watts are neat.
For interviews and small sets are already good enough my 2 x 650 W + 300 (for the edge).
Even in open light, I would take different strengths.
Regards
Christian
Antwort von videotom:
Hello Krischan,
you're always here there immediately.
Lichtset is a company from Halle. I bought myself anything yet where. But appears to be quite ok.
And not far away of me :-)
I'll take the lights rather have a bigger stage if there is frost foil or the like in front is so synonymous goes again s.Licht lost something.
But is really quite fierce in the price and possibly even a dimmer.
But I build myself
Regards
Thomas
Antwort von KrischanDO:
... And maybe even a dimmer.
But I build myself
... Caution, dimming change the color temperature down.
Could be a nice effect, but not necessarily.
Regards
Christian
Antwort von videotom:
Yes I am already clear, however, is certainly sometimes useful.
Regards
Tom
