Frage von Jennes:
Hello! Yes, I know there are already some threads with the topic Konzertmitschnitt and multi-camera shoots.
However, I have a problem that I have never found this.
And although I would like a live recording of a jazz trio made, consisting of sax, bass and drums.
As I've thought: 4 cameras (Panasonic DVX 100 and Canon XL2) and the sound from the mixer off.
Now there are 2 problems: They play Halbakustisch so on Sax and Bass mixer, drums not. Because I would sax and bass on the mixer output and tap the drums with his extra set Micro record (yes, actually you would need several).
Today I have with the sound engineer of the phone and I got the sobering answer that the audio output that comes from the mixer, can hardly be used because it all just for the location is mixed and so likely to be a part of far too loud and the other is much too low (probably bass too loud and too quiet or sax?)
Now I am looking for an alternative, with which I get a good sound. It must not 100% perfect, but a slight right professional, I have synonymous. Have I thought: 3 own microphone stand (condenser rather inappropriate, but rather dynamically?), Bass and sax through a small Behringer mixer itself and Drums mix directly into the cam and then disqualify. Two inputs hab ich ja s.der DVX 100th Is this a good idea? Or what can you do better?
Can I vllt. the radio signal (which sends sax with a radio-Clipmikro s.das mixer) with another receiver (I have a Sennheiser Reporter) tap. The Micro is, however, a AKG. Frequency range of the receiver Sennheiser: 863-865 Mhz.
I hope someone knows the answers to my many many questions :-)
The serh I would be grateful!
Many greetings!
Jennes
Antwort von Pianist:
I hope someone knows the answers to my many many questions :-) Of course there are answers to your questions, but I hardly think that it makes sense, here's novels at the right microphones of a jazz trio to write. Presumably you have a job yet and to get a payment, so it is for you the best solution, a Tonmenschen to employ, what you like a sensible sound recording for the recording does. I would like very much to apologize that my answer as short and almost fails, but it is not possible here in 50 to 100 lines to write something and you like so einzuimpfen skills, what other long-term study.
Only so much: It is possible that this recording with six microphones to make and live mix, but only if you know exactly what we do.
Matthias
Antwort von Jennes:
... and to get a payment ... Wrong. I get this .... nothing. Except maybe a beer after the gig. I hope this commitment, however, in subsequent projects. This time I made of pure kindness. Fortunately, I have a very rich source material s.professionellem, which I can access.
So I will make their own microphones, dynamic likely me a mixer with 8 inputs and outputs FireWire borrow this s.einen G5 and then connect the audio record.
To the cameras, I have experienced quite camera men (yes, synonymous to make out of pure friendliness) and the materials are already good film. As cameras, we now focus on a DVX100 Steadycam on Tripods and probably a JVC GY-DV5000.
Thanks for the help.
Many greetings!
Jennes
Antwort von Markus:
To the cameras, I have experienced quite camera men ... How will the people understand kamera (keyword intercom)? For those projects you need some s.Equipment - or seeehr much Dussel, so not all at once rebuilt. ;-)
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
or seeehr much Dussel, (...) So you can find Dussel s.jeder corner ... if one has a little Dusel ;-)
SCNR
Andreas
Antwort von Markus:
So you can find Dussel s.jeder corner ... if one has a little Dusel ;-) Oh je, the new German spelling! ;-)))
Antwort von Jennes:
as a camera (the shot), almost never moves, because I have a secure Picture, synonymous when the two sides s.den positioned cameras simultaneously reorder. should not be the problem ....
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
I get this .... nothing. Except maybe a beer after the gig. I hope this commitment, however, in subsequent projects. This time I made of pure kindness. This is bad. Because the next time the question is raised why you suddenly want to have money ... but it was synonymous with the last time ... and without because he knows someone who is a synonymous of pure friendliness for a beer would make ...
In any case, it is not a bad idea, the possibilities of individual channels to be incorporated. Maybe you Tonmann mixes of the group when he can and wants. Then you can edit each track beautifully and then one for DVD purposes appropriate mixture (if you have it) make. Useful 8-track recorder is seen in the music stores, so to speak s.Output alongside the flyers to go ...
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
Useful 8-track recorder is seen in the music stores, so to speak s.Output alongside the flyers to go ... Ømm, you can put it in Euros translate? What would there still be recommended?
BG
Andreas
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
Around 700 ¬ (which was already considerably more!)
Korg D888
Sure, 24 bit would be better ...
I have a tape machine 8Spur of Tascam rumfliegen with me. Since, the then 24-bit with the first synonymous done, and it does not so much from when it is overridden:)
Antwort von derpianoman:
Howdy!
It is true that the sound is best when it is on as many channels - such as for a CD production - recording separately and then afterwards, as for a CD production, zusammenmischt.
That can be very easily after using the sound tracks of video cameras synchronized, ie that it replaced.
So if you are "The Man for the picture are" You really need s.besten have a buddy who "The Man for the Sound" is.
Is not a theory but practice, I take a lot of
demo videos so on.
Antwort von Chezus:
Or you rent you an HD 24th Taste it if you buy about 2000 euros, and if you are pretty much anyway you kommts professional equipment to no longer synonymous.
http://www.alesis.com/products/hd24/
The notes almost every single track on a hard drive on (in fact, so synonymous is nothing other than what the others before me have said, but well) and you can then choose, depending on the mix. Also up to 24 tracks.
Had a way synonymous. Maybe you can borrow somewhere. Taste is certainly not the world for an evening
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
Right! But then you should really start up your troubles and possibly existing 'know how' to pay.
Antwort von DWUA:
Your altruism honors you!
Pamper the people but not too much.
Council:
Free beer is one of the above-mentioned expenses are not,
unless you want good friends Treat.
Go tactically, by you good room acoustics and aufnimmst
say: "Better sound quality possible, with better Löhnung because
disproportionately higher costs. "
It is the "jazz" in the music scene financially s.der
bottom edge, even at high quality.
But experience shows that they are synonymous with the lowest expectations and requirements regarding personal canning.
(Even people with music-contracts.)
Just imagine, if it come shortly to hold a septet or a big band
for you too!
Differences in the day and night at the premises:
Completely different conditions in a crowded jazz bar in
Comparison to an almost empty hall.
When your question is probably more of a something (?)
Before testing on samples would be better anyway, is unfortunately often not
possible: (
"Pianist" has already been mentioned that their own experiences
must be made.
If you fürn "Appel and n egg" the acoustics of the room with the 1st aufnimmst,
You're safe on the Page, then you would not preclude people from
separate external herbei miracle to conjure.
In order for such an occupation of a "live" to make
enough in the rule (reference area / distance) the strengthening of the "Wood" - bass, drums and stand there (soprano, alto, tenor / baritone or bass-) - Sax obviously outside.
Ps
One may be to believe, but it's sad reality:
We have "acoustic live recordings" of renowned artists
from the scene, shots s.zwei consecutive days
s.zwei "renowned" opera / concert houses each of the in-house sound technician made.
Among all sow!
As you can in Comparison to nothing wrong;)
Good luck!
