Frage von Jannik:
Hello,
I have been asked to include a play. It will (later s.The actors between 7 and 10 years are passed). Therefore, it does not really have to be perfect. It should, however, have to do something here. I use the Panasonic NV-GS 8 on a tripod. Either the internal microphone is used, or I take on the soundtrack of the notebook. Now my question: Is it better for the piece of a fixed point in filming, or should I make several cuts and show the actors synonymous from other perspectives?
Thank you for constructive suggestions
Jannik
Antwort von Ivy:
Hi!
So if you ask me, I would take the piece in one pass from the fixed point of view. Although this is the simpler and simpler version (with cuts could disguise what always good if you know what I mean), but you must remember synonymous that you always kind of point A to point B'd have to come, so you'd either holes in the recording, or corridors with a camera (jerk), or you had to interrupt the play again, so the memory would stay out anything as good and fun.
You'll also have to cut the piece, of course, know well, so you know when to just what must be in the picture, or do you just need to constantly interrupt and can be repeated, which would lead to above-mentioned effect.
All in all, such a video nciht has its value as an art object but as a reminder that the parties can watch with grandma or daughter and then say, "Oh, what was good ...". Since it is actually quite good if you did that with the simplest of means, it still promotes the nostalgia effect, and besides, one is in a few years certainly very grateful, not EVERYTHING, what has been done since seeing to death.
So film of a single point! You mean less stress for you.
But I would think again about an external Micro ehrlcih said. The sound should still be reasonably obtained and you will get much better results even with a budget (> 50 euros) with the Micro as external laptop or the action. Search here in einfach mal forum for "micro".
Lg,
Ivy
Antwort von steveb:
I would use in each case, a second camera.
mobile with a fixed panoramic tripod and on the second.
Antwort von Jannik:
First of all thank you for the answers. So I think there are both good options. Maybe I should say that I will take the play to 80% chance that even during the rehearsal. That means it would remain for the time change of position, etc. For the case with the microphone! Since quite a lot of music occurs in the play, would be a good sound, of course, perfect. Is there someone I recommend something not too expensive. Where appropriate synonymous Dolby surround sound would be nice.
Thank you very much
Antwort von mensch-production:
Hi Jannik,
absolutely should be included during the performance clips from various perspectives (and very importantly, close-ups of the faces of the actors, if any) synonymous of the audience. I have made it possible, always the case: Continuous Recording of rehearsal
from a more or less fixed camera position / shot / medium shot. Mobile Recording during a performance with long-range and Aussschnittwechseln, pans to the audience, etc. The first recording is the basis for the cut (and) the sound, the second provides the material for the inserts.
In the next project I will try and place for the sound, the 'micro Ohrwurm' of Wolfgang Winne (http://www.ohrwurmaudio.de) near s.der stage to reduce the space sounds that the camcorder mitaufnimmt micro inevitable.
Gruss
ph
Antwort von mensch-production:
PS
In my experience, is the filmed and That (tightening of the costumes, bustle behind the scenes, makeup, rehearsals margins, etc.) for the subsequent video viewers are often as interesting as the 'real' act
Antwort von mensch-production:
So s.so something like a making-of, I had thought synonymous. I think I'll do it then as folgtt. I'll probably still can get some samples. I will resume once the complete piece and then in another sample, various scenes from different perspectives.
Now there remains only the microphone question ... ;-)
Antwort von Ivy:
Hi!
Micro views on the topic look
here here here. In all this you'd just come synonymous, you would have in the search option "Microphone" is entered. ;-)
Making-of ne is definitely a good idea. I'd still shoot only from a perspective above reasons, everything else does not seem reasonable, so he could even act as though there were zealous s.Werk someone who wanted to distinguish himself. Which does not mean that you are the.
Lg,
Ivy
Antwort von Acer:
- Can I put my heart to you at your feet.
- If they do not give me my floor dirty.
- My heart is pure.
- We'll see. But that's a brick. Your heart is a brick.
- But it beats only for you.
I would be interested to know who told you that. I like it very well.
Ciao;).
Antwort von Jannik:
No. So I'm here now really eager not. I just thought it would work better that way, perhaps. I'm going to deny that, but still with the head of what she says and then I'll schaun times.
From your links I had found only two synonymous, but so what really was not there for me. What kind of microphone should it be? I guess a directional microphone or?
Antwort von Ivy:
Hi!
Yes, either a directional microphone (s.einfachsten) or stop a sound system as described in the radio play-thread, which would be really more meant for Atmos.
The latter would have the advantage that the reactions of viewers and surround sound are better on it, the former has the advantage that the language / voice / music of the stage are evident. A matter of taste again. ;-)
And if you're looking for a directional microphone, but then the thread would have to "report micropipette under 150 euros" (see above) have some answers ready, right?
@ Acer: The text of Heiner Muller, a gifted playwright, from the mini drama "heart". I love him but very slightly reduced. Unfortunately, more (not fit) in the signature. Google time thereafter, if it interests you.
Lg,
Ivy
Antwort von Acer:
Your abbreviated version I like much more than the original
Original:
- Can I put my heart to you at your feet.
- If you do not give me my floor dirty.
- My heart is pure.
- We'll see.
- I do not get out.
- Do you want that I'll help you.
- If you do not mind.
- It's my pleasure. I get it out is not synonymous.
-
Howl - I'll herausoperieren you. Why do I have a pocket knife.
We will have the same. Work and do not despair. So, that we had. But that's a brick. Your heart is a brick.
- But it beats only for you.
Antwort von Jannik:
Hello,
I searched a bit and came across this on the Hama RMZ-12. Has anyone experience with it? Could I use this to that?
Thank you very much
Jannik
Antwort von Ivy:
Your abbreviated version I like much more than the original
Well, work in the theater with an audience that wants to see only half hour event, brings a certain routine in the prune of texts ... ;-) Ne, sometimes seriously. I find the original even better. Thanks anyway!
Lg,
Ivy
Antwort von Acer:
There may have been synonymous to me like better, because it was the first version that I know of that dialogue. Irgendsowas because of psychology. if anyone here is psychologist, he is sure can question that.)
Antwort von Markus:
... and came across this on the Hama RMZ-12. Hi Jannik,
with the PMT-12 (stereo mic) I have no experience, but a serious directional microphone is mono. It does not distinguish left and right, but "forward" and "do not forward". - As a longer Kabelweg not) between consumer devices (Microphone -> camcorder comes into question, I would use a directional microphone, which is mounted directly on the camcorder. This electromagnetic interference are minimized to the extent that they are not listening.
The sound is better, the closer you stand s.der stage. Just textschwache and insecure children speak incredibly quiet. If too great a distance, these passages would lose in the basic volume of the audience.
In return, you should have enough distance to the stage at least, to be able to fully absorb. This is the latest s.Schluss necessary if all the actors stand side by side and bow. - Between the necessary close (because of the sound) and the distance (because of the picture) You need to find a compromise somewhere. Alternatively, might be synonymous, a separate audio recording possible to stand in Microphone and audio recorder s.der front stage, while the camcorder back next has its place.
I used two performances of a play once each filmed from different angles. But when it came to light DV editing surprises: how the actors never say exactly the same text, but to improvise with some meaning from sentences. Hangs a performer, schonmal help others out and someone took the set when it just fits. Also they are moving is not always the same, ie someone turns around once before and once after. Something you can not aneinanderschneiden, which fell every viewer at once disturbing.
The differences between two performances are even more serious, the fewer professional actors. What this means for children between 7 and 10 years, I certainly do not need to say.
I have had good experiences with this, use of two cameras and start filming the same show with different focal lengths. A cameraman films the other long shots and close-ups. Such settings can aneinanderschneiden well later.
It is advantageous if both cameras side by side, so that the camera people can vote at any time.
Antwort von WW:
Hello,
why should s.einen consumer camcorder is no longer connected microphone cable? If there is not more than ten meters, is expected to hold in the loss Grnezen; would growl and synonymous nothing - if it does start: With Camera Battery.
When the camera is somewhere between the spectators, the microtonal s.der Camera not bring much. My tip: The Micro either set directly in front of the stage or in front of the speakers. Which Micro you can use, I do not know about that. I think I would take a condenser-microphone, which is more sensitive than a dynamic one. I really like), the ME 64 quite well (Sennheiser. But with electricity that costs about 350 euros. Perfect shots makes the MKH 416, but that's with the $ 1,000 not affordable. The precise Prices, however, I do not know.
Greetings!
WW
Antwort von Markus:
... why should s.einen consumer camcorder is no longer connected microphone cable? I'm not dwell on this issue, because one of the
above links
A consumer-Microphone transmits the signal to the unbalanced camcorder, making it very susceptible to electromagnetic interference. What it's all about, is in the following contribution (and the local links to resources and other links with more info ;-)
Once you click through and read all about Get involved:
3.5 mm jack extension - problem: buzz And two more links:
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What does the weather do with my sound too? "
How is an unbalanced signal symmetrical?
Antwort von Jannik:
Hello,
I need this thread but then again herauskramen ". I have made in the sound is now quite good results. Now it is however still at the Picture. I use the camcorder Panasonic NV-GS8. At the rehearsal, I have switched the Cinema function. I do not know whether it is better to include in the format 4:3 or 16:9. I hope that I have expressed myself somewhat understandable ;-)!
Thank you very much
Jannik
Antwort von Ivy:
I do not know whether it is better to include in the format 4:3 or 16:9. Which brings us to the old topic of the question of taste: What do you like it better? Normally there is indeed no real Cams in 16:9, because this is the NV-GS280 is the case, there is nothing that should prevent you from filming synonymous 16:9 that if you do like.
I personally find 16:9 good, always turn to. But it is a matter of taste, as I said. So how can we help you because there?
Lg,
Ivy
Antwort von Markus:
At the rehearsal, I have switched the Cinema function. As far as I know the Cinema function are displayed in simple black bars 4:3-Picture, creating the impression that it is around 16:9. - In fact, it appeared only to be 4:3 with black bars (=) letterbox.
In this case, prefer movies without Cinema Effect and use the whole picture. ;-)
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