Frage von Clemensch:
S.alle Hello!
Hope you can help me with my problems to help you. Was recently at a wildlife feeding in the hab and times with an Ex3 prosecuted. It had snowed slightly (ie nix sun) and there is now at home I noticed that the red edges in most images.
Have you perhaps an idea that lying can s.was??
In sunny shots this unwanted effect seems not to be so pronounced, but at 200% viewing tiger synonymous to see!?
Antwort von PowerMac:
Ordinary CAs, arisen in harsh contrasts.
Antwort von camworks:
I think the ex1 has ca ne-correction (with the exception of zoom)?
Antwort von Jogi:
Because they're hardly CA's! However, in spite of CAC, there are already s.sehr contrasting chromatic contours Aberationen. But in the current picture, the above. CA's probably not on!
Antwort von Clemensch:
Many thanks for your opinion
Unfortunately, these CA's in the current picture almost more than on the Still Image.
So that bothers me already, and would like to synonymous in the future.
Hatt someone maybe have a hint how to CA `s can bind, except the one contrasting contours should avoid?
Mfg
Clemens
Antwort von camworks:
released after the movie Poltergeist: not go into the light! ;-)
gegenlicht in connection with high contrasts = chromatic aberration.
Antwort von Clemensch:
Thank you Camworks,
However, in this recording are not even the sun gescheint, and did not synonymous filmed against the light.
may perhaps synonymous with the camera settings are the gamma curves to do.
Have you added a picture where the Ca `s looks better!
Thank you ever
Antwort von domain:
Yes, the CA clearly identifies that they are always in Komplemetärfarben occurs. Right edge of an object is magenta, while the left edge is green or vice versa depending on the image half.
But very little CA, because should you ever recordings of the Canon A1 in Comparison sehn, oh Graus ......
Antwort von Schlingel:
But very little CA, because should you ever recordings of the Canon A1 in Comparison sehn, oh Graus ...... A little? Oha, because I have my DSLR but discerning eyes will soon have to transition. Find the pretty much ... What should, in the film is with the picture quality was quite different than in the photograph ...
Sorry for OT
Antwort von Clemensch:
Dear domain,
Canon XH A1 is synonymous another class, even though they have a synonymous CAC would.
I'm already a bit disappointed of the ex3 when no user mistake.
In good light conditions, however, are hardly CA `s.
Can the CA `s in the post-production type in a quick manner and disappear?
Liebe Grüße
Antwort von Schlingel:
In good light conditions, however, are hardly CA `s.
In photography CAs arise from poor optics and hard contrast edges, such as often arise in Backlighting - so synonymous in your sample image.
Trees with thin branches against a white sky are an often used example.
Prevent or minimize can do it through dim, but here is synonymous: the worse the optics [...]
Antwort von Clemensch:
Thank you Schlingl,
but what do you mean with bad optics? If you want to say that of the Lens of Ex3 is not accurate and it leads to the CA's arrived?
If I would have dimmed even more about the picture has become even dimmer ... hmmm
merci
Antwort von Schlingel:
Clemensch, I can not tell you - I know myself only with DSLR optics made, and knows not synonymous, where each class camcorders Aperture is the beneficial ... Therefore I can not tell you synonymous, at what level the optics of your EX3 is because you need someone else to help.
PS: Support Aperture:
The beneficial Aperture Aperture is the smallest, which can be adjusted without having to clear the diffraction blur makes.
Antwort von Jogi:
...
Canon XH A1 is synonymous another class, even though they have a synonymous CAC would.
I'm already a bit disappointed of the ex3 when no user mistake.
In good light conditions, however, are hardly CA `s.
Can the CA `s in the post-production type in a quick manner and disappear?
Liebe Grüße @ Clemensch,
if you couple the CA of the EX3's already upset then you probably did with the AH1 get nightmares. For a lens which produces no chromatic Abreationen loose you need to take a 5-digit euro amount hinblättern. EX3 your body so it makes good pictures. CA's
rather, you can not avoid. In the Postpro it is difficult or impossible to CA's korigieren.
The Lens of the EX1 / 3's Very although I must admit I am in the picture with the deer, the Ca's are even more pronounced than I do of my EX1 her know. Picture is an excerpt of a zoom or max. Focal?
Antwort von Clemensch:
Jogi Thanks for your contribution,
With the A1 hätt I certainly nightmares, so I have to decide for the EX3.
Bin in this recording with the deer in the zoom range, because the animals are so startled, it is almost impossible with max. Focal to shooter.
Can the error of the objective be? Or that the setting of the degree requirement was not properly carried out? Or is it a consequence of the cold weather. In the instructions is the flawless Sonyden use up to 0 degrees guaranteed.
The temperature is so synonymous with direct influence on the components of an optical instrument!?!
Aaaah I smoke because of this stupid head CA's!
schöne Grüße
Antwort von Schlingel:
The temperature is so synonymous with direct influence on the components of an optical instrument!?! Short and scarce: No..
Antwort von PowerMac:
However, image converter can be temperature dependent, for example at higher temperatures more rushing.
Antwort von Jogi:
Jogi Thanks for your contribution,
With the A1 hätt I certainly nightmares, so I have to decide for the EX3.
Bin in this recording with the deer in the zoom range, because the animals are so startled, it is almost impossible with max. Focal to shooter.
Can the error of the objective be? Or that the setting of the degree requirement was not properly carried out? Or is it a consequence of the cold weather. In the instructions is the flawless Sonyden use up to 0 degrees guaranteed.
The temperature is so synonymous with direct influence on the components of an optical instrument!?!
Aaaah I smoke because of this stupid head CA's!
schöne Grüße @ Clemensch,
In max. Telemarketing is the CA's somewhat more pronounced. But this is not the fault of the lens's. Even at 2-3% less synonymous Tele disappear more pronounced Aberationen. When your shots are very marked contrasts (white snow, dark firs, etc.) is just normal!
As for the Cons-temperatures are concerned, because you need not worry. Your EX3 works synonymous with lowest temperature
See here ...
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http://www.sony.de/biz/view/ShowContent.action?product=PMW-EX1&site=biz_de_DE&category=XDCAMCamcorders&contentId=1212656566281§iontype=Product&preserveContext=true </ a>!
Ca's with the Auflagenmaß have nothing in common. At the beginning of series, there were problems with the EX1 it. But this is already fixed. As of firmware-verse. 5.xxx gabs verhunztes auflagenmaß no more!
Antwort von Clemensch:
Alles klar Jogi!
Then I calmed down times over the first, since I now know the causes.
Hope you all synonymous learned from my mistakes, I habs auf jeden fall. ;-)
THANK YOU TO All!
Antwort von jazzy_d:
"In the Postpro it is difficult or impossible to CA's korigieren."
With After Effects Of Carl has a good ausgeschaut (http://library.creativecow.net/articles/larsen_carl/removing_chromatic_aberration.php). Probably synonymous nor the material s.wie good it is.
Antwort von Clemensch:
Wow the result already looks satisfactory!
Will the same morning test times.
If you want to make then I will look for comparison?
schöne grüße!
Antwort von Clemensch:
CA's are history! yuuuhuuu!
Thanks again!
Antwort von Jogi:
Ok, not 100%, but pretty good, but unfortunately at the expense of contrast. How long have you for the correction gbraucht? There is always the question whether the time synonymous justifies!
Antwort von Clemensch:
Hi Jogi,
Contrast Now I've already made, the fit again. No 100% is it not become, it was more of a quicker trial. AE time in about 5 minutes, then you can use the same effect synonymous to the other sequences, copy, then you will need only minor adjust and you have been a pretty good result.
lg Clemens
Antwort von Jogi:
@ Clemensch,
how long have you been since the EX3?
Antwort von Clemensch:
're about 5 months.
Possessions, but with the PP * s not so much experimenting since I have not found the time to do that.
Unfortunately, I kenn synonymous with all the settings in the PP `s not so off -> like with the Matrix or the details. Did simply not as experienced as the effect.
Have already changed a few settings where I have thought this makes sense. But a result of the me 100% satisfied, I am not yet come!
lg
Antwort von domain:
CA-Pain The CA, subjectively speaking,
is without doubt unwelcome;
but it's a good property,
that is the life force,
one to the outside is often wasted
at one point hinwendet
and vigorously concentrated here.
From it's history with the world,
forget the price reports,
taxes and the ABC,
in short, every form of being familiar,
which otherwise seems real and important
is suddenly unsubstantial and void.
Yes, even the old love rusts,
you do not know what butter costs
because only in the eye socket
the viewer is visiting the soul,
and under the bluster and Gesaus
Ripens the decision, the CA must go!
Antwort von Clemensch:
oooh domain
you're so clever and wise,
Filmer and send my heart to travel!
:-)
Antwort von Jogi:
Germany is safe but the land of poets and thinkers!
@ Domain
Your
own? Plant, it is true but on the dot. If you have only inserted once on something then it starts to be annoying and it is in the eye of its beholder to a real problem which is actually nothing.
For the spectator, with such "problems" are not familiar, it can hardly recognize the problem, which ultimately is none!
In my last final wisdom, long live the CA!
Antwort von Clemensch:
Yep domain had the nail on the head.
Our customers, we have (head and me) yesterday the first compilation presented, and they were thrilled hellauf. What of me I could not say. And I had already scared the questions what the red edges are there. But nix! super gefallen hatt it and where I got myself into the ground ashamed in these scenes!
Well it is flat, and you had, thanks to which I now know how to prevent or retouched mans!
Thanks Thanks again
Antwort von Jogi:
're about 5 months.
Possessions, but with the PP * s not so much experimenting since I have not found the time to do that.
Unfortunately, I kenn synonymous with all the settings in the PP `s not so off -> like with the Matrix or the details. Did simply not as experienced as the effect.
Have already changed a few settings where I have thought this makes sense. But a result of the me 100% satisfied, I am not yet come!
lg @ Clemensch,
with "Matrix" changing the color until you level, more or less color. I have since daylight around 10 points more. The gamma curve HighSat puscht also farbpegel top, reinforced to the Black Gamma. The disadvantage, however, quickly overexposed white areas. For this, use the "Gamma" be adjusted, otherwise it is unusable. The "details" you should not increase. To Create the image sharpening fixed. This will artificially sharpened the picture in the bright contours for dark object edges and contours in bright dark edges are drawn. You can then see clearly synonymous ansich excellent and the steadiness of the XDCAM EX format's is there. In the "basic setting" is a very modest set the contour sharpening synonymous barely visible. For a daylight preset is not a disadvantage. For a LowLight preset is not recommended because the noise is about. So in LowLight "detail" to "off" and are careful with "Black Gamma" and knee. Rausgefahr!
For daylight presets with a little knee, Black and gamma taste. Here you can leave it in the standard gamma curve STD3
respectively. It behaves very neutral. A very interesting gamma bitetet "Cine4" But the end is all a matter of one's own taste or that of the customer.
Antwort von domain:
@ Domain
Your own? Plant, it is true but on the dot.
Could of course only in collaboration with Wilhelm Busch arise.
That was an excellent human nature and psychology.
Never one may in technically-edge optical phenomena bite so tight, like an english bull mastiff.
These are all Lapalien and has always been there, especially in bright superteuren lenses in wide open area in Aperture, no preference of the Manufacturer.
An ordinary looks, the CA is no longer, he did virtually from her television for decades internalises ...
Antwort von Clemensch:
@ jogi
Thank you for your informative answer. Now I have been a good starting point for my own look to find.
Many Thanks!
@ domain
In some images it bothers me, especially having one picture where only white / brown / black is mainly about sehn.
Since matches a contour Pinke not easy to do my eyes hurt.
For this reason, the CA must now go! "
Liebe Grüße
Clemens
Antwort von Clemensch:
@ Jogi
you use the Color Correction and the skin tone detail function? Makes sense?
And the knee setting is not available to me? Tells you the quick why, otherwise not so bad can be so synonymous in the Instructions to read! :-)
Antwort von Jogi:
@ Clemensch,
With the Skin Tone Detail function, eg in Frensehen worked. Presenters in the studio or a talk show guests are always 10 years younger than they actually are.
With "Area Detection and Area Indication" will Bildbreiche and determines the skin tones should be adjusted. Thus, it is then possible to draw a flat face to reduce wrinkles. The same is true with the face paint. This can be a healthy appearance or forecast Reflections relief.
The "Color Correction" function work like that. With it, certain colors of an autonomous areas identified in the brightness, color saturation and phase can be corrected. If you like the sky is not blue enough, or the grass is not green enough, or the lips of your woman is not the desired red, then it is easy aufgehüpscht!
If you let the knee-value is not correct then you can possibly be set ...
Cine Gamma curves 1-4
Shutter is in SLS mode
Ex Slow shutter is activated
Times you need to check the settings
Antwort von domain:
@ domain
In some images it bothers me, especially having one picture where only white / brown / black is mainly about sehn.
Since matches a contour Pinke not easy to do my eyes hurt.
For this reason, the CA must now go! "
Already aware CA is annoying, but now belongs to our viewing habits.
The most extreme case, there was my 2005 when the shaky telephoto with "Habemus Papam" chimney in the Vatican was shown, where the white smoke for Ratzinger ascended. He seemed on the one page in red and the other in green and painted to please with a professional camera filmed.
But it applies at all in photography, what you do not, you must stress away. I have as my "little ones" in a 43mm version of a ca -15 diopters strong reflective lens mount can.
The camera can still be macro setting still sharp, but with what a wonderful effect: total lines bent like a fisheye and at the same time a giant CA in the peripheral, simply sensational.
So a filter effect, synonymous of Color in B & W brings similar images, but unfortunately only s.Rand. With such a Fisheye for seconds you could be fleeing the wild nachhetzen, combined with incredible (CA-) Dynamics.
Then again could be boring äsendes game calmly and with comparatively is no longer visible CA on the decay of heart care.
Antwort von Clemensch:
@ domain
True, creativity knows no bounds.
That is a good feature from mistakes if you can make art!
@ Jogi
Thanks for your help! You've really helped my camera to adjust. Bin s.Wochenende a skiing trip and have been shooting my new presets tested and am very satisfied with the outcome!
Thanks again!
Antwort von krokymovie:
"In the Postpro it is difficult or impossible to CA's korigieren." really? perhaps but not synonymous. see once
hier rein.
ich denke, könnte bei auftragsarbeiten unverzichtbar sein.
gruß
Antwort von Jogi:
@ domain
True, creativity knows no bounds.
That is a good feature from mistakes if you can make art!
@ Jogi
Thanks for your help! You've really helped my camera to adjust. Bin s.Wochenende a skiing trip and have been shooting my new presets tested and am very satisfied with the outcome!
Thanks again! But happy!
Antwort von Clemensch:
To these questions, I just hang back here drann:
Hatt maybe someone here with experience films from the wellness area!
If in fact soon Image and video drehn for synonymous sauna landscape in the right light.
So now my question:
Can I easily heated in a sauna or steam room to run with the cam?
The massive cold defying them, I know now!
But what with heat and high Luffeuchtigkeit from?
Hatt but surely someone or experience?
Or, previously better cool?
Thanks and nice greetings
Clemens
Antwort von jazzy_d:
So, in such steam would be a cam I think I do not take. Ev. the people with simply a Wassersteuber something annetzen so that it looks as if the sweat and in the Picture Post something "andampfen" or as if the mist would Lens.
The Storry at Sony, as a card with his übergiest and water freezes and the work still is quite fascinating.
Antwort von ed-media:
In the sauna, I would just my Panasonic SW20 and an LED emitters to take, it's not necessarily the steam room, otherwise, I would hold as the speakers, people with water mist spray and disco in the steam sauna and blasen rotate so. Looks certainly not synonymous bad.
Gruß Eric
Antwort von Jogi:
In a sauna, I was yet with Cam None. But extreme heat and rel. Humidity over 90% has been synonymous my EX1 and he survived.
have no interference noted although Cam sopping wet of the gout was a large waterfall!
Antwort von Clemensch:
Thank you first for the tips!
Haha there are the models eyes when I make them in the steam sauna disco fog face bubble! :-) Great, thank you!
That the lens or the chips start because of the temperature differences can happen or synonymous? But then, I would so synonymous in the post again saves time because I do not need more fog effect, at least in the normal sauna. :-)
have no interference noted although Cam sopping wet of the gout was a large waterfall! Sounds have been reassuring. However, there is certainly not 80 ° -90 ° had.
Faith for the sauna can i make it so jazzy as it had proposed. That sounds good. Easy to 40-50 ° Allow to cool, and with Wasserstreuber ....
When the steam bath, I am still not sure how to practice. Unfortunately for the customer is the steam sauna is very important, so I can not umgehn are synonymous.
Regards
Clemens
Antwort von Jogi:
nee, of course, there were no Sohee Temp. But around 40 ° C synonymous.
There are certainly some video loops with which one semitransparent fog etc. as File on the SaunaClip can cover. Maybe even something After Effects to offer!
