Newsmeldung von slashCAM: SonyHDR-HC3 review of rudi - 19 Apr 2006 09:55:00 Camcorder Info has made an initial review of the long-awaited SonyHDR-HC3 HDV Camera online. Brief Conclusion: Fairly similar image quality as the HDR-HC1 with more or less limited manual features. So, not surprisingly, neither positive nor negative.
Antwort von prem:
Presumably you need the manual adjustment features many of the HC1 is no longer, because the automatic modes work better with the HC3 and the Sonyjetzt more trusts to satisfy a broader consumer market with HDV to. The videos of the HC3 in low light is definitely much clearer and sharper than that of HC1. In daylight, the two animals HC1 and HC3 camcorders, in fact nothing.
Antwort von deepcode:
What surprised me very much - when there is the wolfgang under http://www.fxsupport.de/hc1/hc1_9.html night street scene of HC-3, and unfortunately, there is a strong smear on the lights!
The HC-1 - pictures are clean, but it is lousy dissolved, HC-3 but with much sharper smear ..
Only: Smear is actually absolutely impossible with a CMOS - Sensor.
I will not let go of the suspicion Sonymanipuliert any Cam in some areas on purpose so that never comes out a round thing here. Customers should never be satisfied, otherwise nothing else to buy. Very annoying. If the smear produced intentionally s.end?
And why A1 and HC-1 in Low Light suddenly become so blurred?
Questions, questions ..
Antwort von deepcode:
Presumably you need the manual adjustment features many of the HC1 is no longer, because the automatic modes work better with the HC3 and the Sonyjetzt more trusts to satisfy a broader consumer market with HDV to. The videos of the HC3 in low light is definitely much clearer and sharper than that of HC1. In daylight, the two animals HC1 and HC3 camcorders, in fact nothing. what you want because even great?
shutter, sharpness and blinded manual - offers a panasonic cam.
Where can I get it? exactly - for the FX-1 / Z1. the parts were not so large and unwieldy, I would have bought one long ago.
Apart from that I'm annoyed of panasonic - sony now haut HDV cam No. 4 on the market and panasonic her soup with the slightly inflated HVX DVX named to sell people overpriced P2 - modules to cook .. At the moment I should be okay None of these types in the marketing departments on the way!
Antwort von Jan:
Amazing is synonymous the single piece on the Sampling ratio of HC 3:
I mean they're both CMOS and 1 / 3 ", but there's lots different between them. The HC1 uses a Bayer filter with the normal half green sensors, 1 / 4 red, and 1 / 4 blue. ClearVid puts everything on a 45 degree angle, and uses 2 / 3 green, 1 / 6 red, and 1 / 6 blue. WAY different layout on the sensor. Very important to note.
If the HC 3 Bayer filter now no more, and what does Sonyjetzt with Full HD?
I just looked at me today synonymous times the Screen (Clear Photo LCD plus with its 211,200 pixels), now we can truly speak of one Tageslichtfähigen LCD, the picture looks quite strong, at least s.LCD, the specified test has indeed
synonymous or similar s.LCD PC said.
Our "beloved hood" bought at the HC 3 is no longer synonymous, but the wheel control is very good, some manual settings such as eg white value are even re-launched.
LG
January
Antwort von deepcode:
can place one can s.der HC-3 actually any parameter, dan on one wheel, then adjust and maintain manual sharpening (eg, adjusted) and then regulate a different parameter manual, NOT the jumps back to automatic pre-set parameters?
So click - exposure - adjustable wheels - click - sharpen - sett click - white balance .. etc., and everything remains as set?
Because if only ONE ding manual would be monitored and everything else under the influence of automation can is the little wonder box, unfortunately, only use for family pint'n shoot.
Antwort von Jan:
I had the camera so far only briefly in his hand, I remember that the 4 (I believe it warn) parameters remained so when I had adjusted to the other, it means the bottom of the LCD - parameter 1 zb. +1 Or -3, Parameter 2 - +2 .... As far as I can judge now, still in my head, I had to briefly touch screen via the next parameter in Assignable Dial select - So tîpên 3 times on the touch screen, I can not remember s.eine faster version, again with manual pressure on the front when the roll was then activated to change the parameters via touch screen roller.
I had little time to Ruessel it might just know from his head - he has made a good comprehensive testing program. I will look closely Thu-Fri again, only now did my first HC 3 .... in the shop
Transition Shot and manual Tonausteuerung is not suspected as the process of progressive "film look" just like sepia film can be found in digital effects in the HC 3rd
LG
January
Antwort von Marcus2:
- He has indeed made a good comprehensive testing program. But there is nothing like this on his website.
Antwort von Marcus2:
Hello,
Russell's practice test will appear in the video media from 28.04.2006.
This is the info.
Greeting Det
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
Interview with the HC3 developers:
Antwort von Jan:
404ERR
Antwort von Marcus2:
Yes, of course you can always wait too ... it always comes back an innovation.
Antwort von Valentino:
Hi,
So the Panasonic as a kind of HD-Cam brings out is nothing new. I've already seen the device at the IFA, but the device will be more in the direction of the HD1 Sanyo.
Antwort von Jan:
Yes of the Sanyo HD 1 synonymous, I am not so convinced, the Panasonic HD'd probably rather similar, unlike HC 3rd
S.den The new rumor is that I have received a confirmation of the model for the fall of 2006, Pana, they will introduce at Photokina as ready for sale. One reason the finish should not be card, among other things the performance / problems of the new manufacturer Panasonic 4GB SD. 4 GB SD cards are a little different than 2GB cards, the file system is probably as CF 4 GB San Disk - FAT 32 - there are still some problems.
Without update for the camera on most models, the 4 GB card will not take, SDR S 100 synonymous gets an update, other existing Panasonic video cameras, the 4 GB will not take. Although you probably anyway for a GS takes 500 not 4 GB.
Again the HC 3 - there are indeed remain the parameters set - the front s.der roller can be set are:
Focus
Exposure
Auto exposure
Weiss value migration
Image contours (in the menu sharpness), Farbinentsität (In the Camera menu color) and other puts you directly in the menu.
If I read correctly, the HC 3 no Bayer filter, 6.1.1 Sampling ratio, not as 4.2.0 has known. (Thanks Bruno Peter for the link - very interesting!)
LG
Jan
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
I read again the instructions a bit, in the super slow motion gibts no stabilizer (the one with the short sequence probably not needed).
Some known functions can not be combined, unfortunately, is activated when eg the cinema effect, can not image contours, Program Auto Exposure, Exposure program be changed.
The HC 3 would indeed significantly better in low light than the HC 1, if I have not read it, the pixels are rotated by 45 ° and thus have more space so (much like the Fuji Super CCD), which is actually with less light especially with amplification of the sensor's punch through almost anything, its low noise, convinced many magazines and user.
The FP 60 of the Battery at ease as a man in a convertible car feels surprised, I've never seen such an Exceptionally battery slot.
LG
January
Antwort von ruessel:
The HC 3 would indeed significantly better in low light than the HC 1, if I have not read it, the pixels are rotated by 45 ° and thus have more surface area However, the HC1 has about 500,000 more s.Bildpunkten at the Image Sensor and there is little benefit to the HC3, the sensor rotate ..... These problems are clearly visible in my shots and HC3, resulting in some strange reasons HDV Effects. But in fact, is the HC3 when LowLight slightly sharper, but not brighter. On the day it's the other way around.
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
Test in daylight with pictures of W. Winne:
:
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Antwort von Bruno Peter:
Test in lowlight with pictures of W. Winne:
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Antwort von Bruno Peter:
[quote] These problems are clearly visible in my shots and HC3, resulting in some strange reasons HDV Effects.
What strange HDV Effects?
Antwort von Clip:
Dear Bruno,
The HC3 shows the relief of a "simplified chain model", which in reality is not there.
Look at your own example GIF but exactly once!
Greeting Det
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
Yes, I've seen synonymous with my own studies, probably because the HC3 takes a little less detail, and so the pattern was different. That's why I wrote you on my Page: We see what has long ceased hergibt the lens, but rather something that deceives us, the electronics ...
I would still rather just suggest such a detailed record times in the full image. In your examples, we know not, for example, where the sharp point of the Automatic has been focusiert.
In the overall picture, however, is such a deficiency on an HDTV rather then under, the focus is not on even a portion of 1%. The HC3, which makes chips Recording with 1,434,000, the HC1 contrast with 1,980,000. HC1 should therefore capture more detail, what then but later converted to 1440x1080 pixels on the tape and seeing so many pictures on your HDTV even with only 786,432 pixels which is always more readyHD.
Overall, I find the picture quality of the very compact HC3's OK, and especially in low light but significant results are expected.
Antwort von Jan:
Thanks Peter Bruno Comparison of the effective, if not cheated very impressive with your test images.
Good trunk, you're right, if the HC would get 3 a bit more pixels, would be synonymous to increase the image quality was in there ....
LG
January
Antwort von Diskus:
I have a few questions and hope someone can help me at least einwenig.
So once I have accepted the HC-3, a TV with HD Ready, then I edit my videos always synonymous with MediaStudio da gibts I think an HD plug-in.
So now I have of the action till the PC all in HDTV, but how do I get it back then in HDTV on the TV.
How do I burn movies in HDTV and then I Baruch then a player for HDTV.
Am I right?
Antwort von jens:
How do I burn movies in HDTV and then I Baruch then a player for HDTV.
Am I right? Well, if you do not like the Bruno do you see players through a network of old.
First of the HD-DVD or BluRay player to come onto the market. Then you have to opt for a format to buy you expensive players and annoy you 2 years later, that the other format has ;-)
I mean, look, the films on the camera s.oder just going to SD down (then you can take ne normal DVD burn) otherwise, wait and drink tea.
I'm synonymous and buy me only one portion, if some output format issue is settled and mature, the models are (so I will not deny that the recent high-resolution cameras are not great pictures - especially synonymous scaled down - to make).
Schöne Grüße,
Jens
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
No, not yet herunterwürgen the beautiful HD video on DV ...
Just cut in HDV and with:
a) HDV camcorder
b) Network Player (Pinnacle ShowCenter 200)
look at in HDV, only that it is really fun even if
been included in HDV.
Only if you want a gift and there is no HDV capable
Playback facility is available, you make a PAL DVD from the
already cut HDV - video. This indeed is very easy ...
Antwort von jens:
Certainly, Bruno is the best option.
Jens
Antwort von nummer1:
Did I understand correctly that you can change the function of the focus wheel to the HC3??
So as you can drauflegen Exposure?
That would be great, so would be like my decision. I have tried something at the store, but as a function not found.
In addition, but should nevertheless be noted that this wheel is fitted extremely unfavorable. Directly behind the display. Thus, if the display is opened without any angle, the wheel is inaccessible. That's what happens when drunk, the designers at work.
Second question. Well, the HC3 has no microphone input. What would you recommend if I now want to make a separate audio recording in parallel with the shooting. So Micro and external recording device. Is there inexpensive already got something that exceeds the micro-camera?
That is really unfair of Sonyda incorporate no microphone input. True wicked easy. The only reason why I did not buy the GS400 is the lack of infra-red night vision ...
Antwort von bluebird:
oops. Forget me to login. The contribution was of me ...
Antwort von bluebird:
And one more question:
When watching the comparison videos (by the way suuuuuper viiiieeeelen Thanks s.den Tester, Wolfgang? Did), I sometimes a distorted picture. There are horizontal bars, which dissolves in the Picture. So you would cut a Stillimage into horizontal strips and arrange them then postponed.
I am appreciative of my computer, it is s.der senility, or maybe s.den recordings?
Antwort von Jan:
If you are with the wheel, the roller or how Sonysagt Assignable Dial Yes and mean values remain stored, lighting, or Focus can be adjusted with the roller, using touch screen one chooses what one wants to change - of the 4 functions as below.
Again the HC 3 - there are indeed remain the parameters set - the front s.der roller can be set are:
Focus
Exposure
Auto exposure - AS
Weiss value migration - WAS
Why AS - auto exposure and exposure can be changed so far I have not quite grasped what you want the object Sonydamit.
For white balance, as described in VAD, I could not control it, probably because it was white balance (ie the gibts menu again)
White with value migration - WAS confused. With WAS) at - the Picture (the value of a bluish white, with reddish +.
LG
January
Antwort von deepcode:
Soon to practice with the HC-3, which I have been a few days:
- Dial: really stupid position when screen diagonally, then you can indeed just turn the dial, but s.den switch dial / one car comes off no longer. This was stupidly positioned posteriorly on the display page - Page on the other, it would have been 1000 times better - no further comment ..
- Image quality: how synonymous the other HDV 's of Sonywürde I say: HD / 2 Resolutioneiniges higher than SD but not real HD. Test taking: 1920 Picture, downrez SD 4:3 and back again - the differences are there, but do not jump into the eye. However, clearly stated - for about 1150 Euronen the quality is already extremely well and you can get a lot!
Above all, I've done the test synonymous with Frame Grabs as the new Silicon Vision Cam as synonymous schauts ultimately not much better off.
- However: Bright Lichtquuellen make Smear! Actually impossible with CMOS, which has made Sonyda? Intention?
If, after initial trials but fortunately not on when going into a 35mm adapter films on television. But this is a fat MINUS.
- Use touch screen: Amazingly well and quickly, if one has put together his own personal views menu. Together with the wheel while getting used to do good but after a short time.
- LCD: very sharp and bright especially at sun-light - still good to see sun in the back - extremely bright and clear - Bravo Sony! And very sharp.
- Viewfinder: No doubt - refuse. Small, poor resolution is not adjustable. But thanks to the high quality of display you can get over that.
- Shutter: switches to the car - it has set the shutter from 1 / 50 cineshutter - great!
Alerdings: With lots of light / bright sunlight, you have only a few steps on the exposure - control - so you should get another ND - filter for solar applications, if one wants to work with constant 1 / 50.
- Low Light: If you film normally lit room (60 W bulb) for example, on a pine front / wardrobe -> gain full gain at 1 / 50 for normal exposure. So there is no queen of the night, but very onfür high resolution. Noise keeps himself well within limits, in this area is much more expensive cams will be out-performed.
Look & Feel: I like it! small, but valent. Due to the size and the 500 program, I can n.realisieren my rig with Letus 35mm Rods and Optics at the 2, with more compact dimensions. At the same time the ideal Urlaubscam.
Tapes: The first tests I did with a 4-year-old made the 10th time dubbed Sony standard DV tape - a dropout (but known to be broken s.einer place where DV has been dropped). At least for personal use, you can save yourself the overpriced HDV tapes.
Conclusion:
Who is responsible for approximately 1200 EUR a good looking Universalcam are synonymous with the times a little Independent - movies can be realized in good quality solllte the cam views closer look.
Antwort von prem:
... solllte the cam views closer look See ... even more important is time to work with it and so is really fun!
Antwort von Lash Larou:
Hello,
I have been a few days, the HC3 and am really pleased with the part. This incidentally is synonymous for function if one views the photo assuming that this is a film is not a camera. But now to my real problem: Z. Zt. I am in USA and synonymous here have a Sony plasma TV for disposal. Neither over the HDMI or the component input is a Picture on the Television to bring. With HDMI you can see nothing in the component input and a patchwork. The TV is 1080i, according to instructions. Since the signal is digital, I had hoped that it finally has ended with the different system. But denkste! Is there perhaps a hidden menu where you can switch something? As far as I know, the Americans with 24 FpS and the Europeans are working with 25th This is perhaps the reason? Weiss jemand Rat?
LG
Lash Larou
Antwort von Jan:
No unfortunately not, in the Z 1 could be switched, with the professional version of HC 1 - AE 1 synonymous, I think I have something to read.
At HC 1 / 3 but definitely not.
But there are still playback devices of modern technology with DVI / HDMI is not cooperating with the HDCP copy protection - then it preserves the boldness eg a black picture.
Most current projector, LCD or plasma, but recognize Fersehen HDCP.
LG
January
Antwort von Quadruplex:
There will be a competitor of HC 3 Pana, technical data / information Panasonic but still holds back. Sure MPEG 4 and 4 GB SD card. About this new format was already a little something to read .. I think it is' nen Pups. MPEG-4 is a distribution-and not a production format. It may be that we can inspire filmmakers with family so 'nem thing. But then it should not cost more than 400 euros ...
And as far as the HDV abstention of Panasonic: Schau mer mal. The guys have preached two years adamantly DVD-RAM - and seen as they have that they float away the skins, there's suddenly of Panasonic DVD recorder, which could synonymous + R /-RW, etc. ...
Antwort von Quadruplex:
Hello, Deepcode!
Test taking: 1920 Picture, downrez SD 4:3 and back again - the differences are there, but do not jump into the eye. Could you please explain to me what exactly have you been tested or when compared? I would understand the gen - but from your description, I'm not smart at all ...
Thank you!
Quadruplex
Antwort von Jan:
With a perfect MPEG 4 codec may at times with a data rate of about 5 Mbit / sec a DV generate similar picture, eg in MPEG 2 (Canopus Pro Coder 2) provides one with data rates of about 10 Mbits / sec now have a similar quality and DV The MPEG 2 / 4 with significantly less data. Wait times to bring what the new codec's so, with the right to inspect converters today have good MPEG material.
As you know, I had quite a long synonymous ragged on the MPEG 2 Panasonic SDR S 100, but even at lower data rates ala 5 Mbit / sec - there Siehr be honest synonymous with little panning artifacts, only for the really obsessed.
It is good in the near future defintiv MPEG 4 type material synonymous in broadcast range of Panasonic.
LG
January
Antwort von mad:
hello people here as I noticed you have're all good here ahnung hence my question.
I've bought and guests the HC3 synonymous makes great recordings but the prob if I want to spend the videos tv s.meinen LG HD Ready via HDMI I get 0 Picture so black but everything about what this could be resolved clinik.
I was asleep from the HDMI connection s.fernseher def. is because my DVD recorder via HDMI s.fernseher clinik no probs
what if one particular set cam in it must tell me please if you have s.verzweifeln wist there was rumprobiert Maybe 3 hours is indeed the HDMi connection s.der cam def.
schonmal grateful and still a nice WE
Mad mfG
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
I close the camcorder via HDMI s.HDTV s.and activate s.HDTV input for now only the camcorder in Play mode / eidt Schlater HDV and marched to the HDTV.
It's not a trick, it's a Sony ...
Antwort von Jan:
Let's hope that your device is HDCP Capable, it might be explainable synonymous, the black screen. But there are very few older / cheap devices like this, it is assumed that the fault has to be sought elsewhere.
Perhaps Bruno's help tip ....
LG
Jan
Antwort von Quadruplex:
Ah, yes - HDMI ... :-(
With LG there were funny things. In the 'audiovision' the other day was a fine thing: Because someone had DVD players, AV receivers and LG plasma connected via HDMI. Every time the television was in standby mode, ticking away from the DVD player. It turned out eventually that the LG spends in standby garbage on the HDMI cable.
Would be synonymous not the first TV, the HDMI input austickt because he gets NO encoded signal. Since there's been synonymous with other manufacturers problems ...
Long story short: try it with your camcorder in the store an 'nem other TV device. If it's there, works to reclaim 'the LG.
Antwort von neuerGast:
The same problem I have HDMI synonymous. But it is not s.LG.
My LG LCD TV can receive the signals. According Sonyhat the HDMI signal always the first priority, that is really only the last connection of the cable-and the data is transferred.
The HDMI output is not on my HC3. The camera has an LED display. Please select corresponding menu item. There has to be registered as synonymous HDMI HDMI. For me, standing only 4 underscores.
Even Sonykonnte not me. Help The replacement camera has been ordered. I'm curious about.
My second problem. In HDV output via ilink is indeed the HDV / DV Converter to "Off" made. The PC then says that he has found a new hardware. He recognizes almost HDV Camera and the coupled mode does not require drivers. But there is indeed no Sony
Drivers CD included. Who knows from there?
LG
Antwort von speedfreak2005:
I also have big problems when connecting via HDMI with my HC3 different output devices.
1. HC3 via HDMI to DVI cable s.Benq DV3750: signal is displayed only in 576p - although the Resolutionvon Benq has a native 1920 x 1080 and supports HDCP (Denon DVD players and Humax PR HD 1000 funz in 1080i perfectly synonymous with HDCP).
2. Hitachi PJ TX 100 directly via HDMI to DVI cable s.HC3: Signal 720p (native ResolutionHitachi) is detected and displayed.
BUT: I move away from the Hitachi and the TV one Gefen 4x2 HDMI switch (not permanently, at my desk ...). If the signal of the HC3 is sent through the switch is either on the TV is still on the Hitachi a Picture. The switch funzt otherwise super.
Is there any way, such as 1080i as the output format on the HC3 fix cease? Perhaps in a hidden menu?
Would be extremely grateful for any help.
Vile Greetings
Antwort von deepcode:
Did someone once tried to see if the HDMI out of the HC-3 a "live image" prints in the Camera mode?
If yes - real-time or delayed?
If HDMI would live image that is not delayed, it might be that prints out the Cam uncompressed video. Would be interesting to try out the times, unfortunately I have nothing here to connect HDMI - enabled for.
So who calls his own a great plasma and a HC-3 ..
Antwort von hannes:
@ Bruno Peter
> Look at in HDV, but only that is really fun even if
been included in HDV.
Bin synonymous in your opinion, especially since I could see the output via the HDMI on a TFT times.
My question:
as you write the cut film on the camera back?
With what program? About the 1394?
Antwort von neuer Gast:
Who can help me?
My camera was already exchanged 1x. Based on the existing Camera
synonymous appear in the status display with HDMI Underline 4, ie, here there are no parameters.
At the LG-LCD is not, who can properly reflect via HDMI digital signals. Or in other words, how big is about the visible difference between a YUV connection and an HDMI connection?
I have no desire to give back my camera out of my hands.
Regards.
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
My question:
as you write the cut film on the camera back?
With what program? About the 1394? About 1394, clearly ...
Programs: P-Pro 2.0, studio 10 pros and Edius Pro 3 .. all make das
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
Or in other words, how big is about the visible difference between a YUV connection and an HDMI connection? Get over both compounds a very good picture. Do not know any entity in which I could give a difference, see the pictures here and there the same time. Use HDMI itself naturally. Some Video Test Magazine Profile, HDMI would be a little crisper images. What to write but even so ...
Antwort von neuer Gast:
Hello Bruno,
thank you for your reply.
One question I would have, because you work so the HDMI transmission. What is with you right in the status display?
HDMI
_ _ _ _
So at least my status indicator looks at the second Page
(last entry) from.
Greeting.
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
In my left is under the battery indicator:
HDV1080i
mode Play / Edit ...
Antwort von neuer Gast:
Hello Bruno,
ess I am again.
The display HDV 1080i, I'm synonymous.
If you go now go through the menu in the folder status, then
published a total of 2 screens.
The following entries I have on my cam:
VCR HDV / DV: HDV in red
Component: red 1080i/576i
i.link Conv: In Red
TV format: 16:9 in red
HDMI output: in red 4 underscores.
In fact the last entry is me. What is with you
behind HDMI output?
Thanks in advance, and LG (love greetings)
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
There, I have:
VCR HDV / DV: Orange AUTO
Component: 1080i/576i in Orange
i.link Conv: Orange OFF
TV format: 16:9 Orange
HDMI Output: Orange 1920x1080i
Antwort von HD Rolf:
I also have big problems when connecting via HDMI with my HC3 different output devices.
1. HC3 via HDMI to DVI cable s.Benq DV3750: signal is displayed only in 576p - although the Resolutionvon Benq has a native 1920 x 1080 and supports HDCP (Denon DVD players and Humax PR HD 1000 funz in 1080i perfectly synonymous with HDCP).
2. Hitachi PJ TX 100 directly via HDMI to DVI cable s.HC3: Signal 720p (native ResolutionHitachi) is detected and displayed.
BUT: I move away from the Hitachi and the TV one Gefen 4x2 HDMI switch (not permanently, at my desk ...). If the signal of the HC3 is sent through the switch is either on the TV is still on the Hitachi a Picture. The switch funzt otherwise super.
Is there any way, such as 1080i as the output format on the HC3 fix cease? Perhaps in a hidden menu?
Would be extremely grateful for any help.
Vile Greetings Hello speedfreak2005,
I had one synonymous BenQ 3750 and shortly before buying a SonyHDR stand-HC3, it would be very interested to hear whether the camera now works via HDMI / DVI? Have you even tried it without the switch?
Gruß Rolf
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
... if the camera now works via HDMI / DVI? The camera has always worked, the question is whether your existing equipment rather stop properly on HDMI / DVI works?
Antwort von HDV HP:
PROBLEM with HDMI Output
Hello,
got my HC3 with an HDMI-DVI cable s.meinen LCD TV (Samsung connected to 32 "). The TV reports that the format is not supported and is still black.
Lt. Manual of the TV, it is possible to feed through the DVI port on the 576i and 1080i standards.
Now I have made the fun times and the HC3 s.meinen LCD PC Screen (LG connected 19 ") and lo and behold, I have a picture. While it is distorted (by 4:3), but it works.
The interesting thing is:
About the Information menu, I've had the current resolution displays and those are
1170 x 584 at 50 Hz
Can one of you explain?
And why did I not get the picture on my TV?
Greeting
Antwort von prem:
Hi All,
Just do not get a connection in HDV mode with my PC via iLink. As soon as I switch to DV Camera s.der the camera is recognized, but not in HDV mode. But since I have taken in HDV mode I would like to have the images synonymous in this quality on my PC.
Is there a hint of an interest for me?
The Sony support they said this is s.der HDV editing software must be fit. I can not imagine, however, since there erstmal to recognize the camera is pure or am I mistaken?
Greeting
Gordon
Antwort von Olli86:
Hello.
I stand about to buy me synonymous with the HC3, and had therefore some questions.
Is it enough to join a Camera with ilink cable s.den PC or could you need for an HDMI cable. In this case, I would have no interface for it that is synonymous s.Laptop.ICh not know if my laptop ever HD ready, if the PC's in general can say. Is it just the material that I bring to the PC, and eventually cut it again in the same HD quality to bring the tape back? My HD plasma of LG has only a resolution of 720, there are so many nich know only very few are synonymous 1080 have, I must runterrechnen the film somehow, or does the Television of the alone when it happens the movie?
Since I've made a fairly old program, I need a new one, I wanted to ask what are sure they have to also be compatible with HD sein.Nimmt the normal mini dv cassette, or gibts da special HDV Video Library? I can not do without problems, the old mini dv movies to be made synonymous to watch the HC3 is not it? "I would say that my views jmd fact that the camera would go like this Broken, which I do not imagine me kann.Eine very stupid question, I still synonymous , I have to say about this, I know I do not like this and got this with my old camera never versucht.Kann man with the HC3 as jmd the food in front of the camera is showing sharp and blurred jmd of about 2 meter behind it? "Because so much here been said, is because of the HC3 does everything automatically, I thought that to hire them something that is blurred, once again makes sharp.
Finally, I would ask what you recommend for such equipment which würdet.Also tripod etc.Ich times have seen a sort of shell, with which one can shoot underwater with the HC3, but I think this coat is no longer on the net, because I could probably jmd . help.
Sagn I must, however, synonymous something that I'm afraid that the camera s.meinen new LG plasma does not work :-)
Antwort von korrekturleser:
hello people here as I noticed you have're all good here ahnung hence my question.
I've bought and guests the HC3 synonymous makes great recordings but the prob if I want to spend the videos tv s.meinen LG HD Ready via HDMI I get 0 Picture so black but everything about what this could be resolved clinik.
I was asleep from the HDMI connection s.fernseher def. is because my DVD recorder via HDMI s.fernseher clinik no probs
what if one particular set cam in it must tell me please if you have s.verzweifeln wist there was rumprobiert Maybe 3 hours is indeed the HDMi connection s.der cam def.
schonmal grateful and still a nice WE
Mad mfG pardon me, but maybe once you try it first with one MSDict ...
Antwort von Herr Andres:
Hello.
I stand about to buy me synonymous with the HC3, and had therefore some questions.
Is it enough to join a Camera with ilink cable s.den PC or could you need for an HDMI cable. In this case, I would have no interface for it that is synonymous s.Laptop.ICh not know if my laptop ever HD ready, if the PC's in general can say. Is it just the material that I bring to the PC, and eventually cut it again in the same HD quality to bring the tape back? My HD plasma of LG has only a resolution of 720, there are so many nich know only very few are synonymous 1080 have, I must runterrechnen the film somehow, or does the Television of the alone when it happens the movie?
Since I've made a fairly old program, I need a new one, I wanted to ask what are sure they have to also be compatible with HD sein.Nimmt the normal mini dv cassette, or gibts da special HDV Video Library? I can not do without problems, the old mini dv movies to be made synonymous to watch the HC3 is not it? "I would say that my views jmd fact that the camera would go like this Broken, which I do not imagine me kann.Eine very stupid question, I still synonymous , I have to say about this, I know I do not like this and got this with my old camera never versucht.Kann man with the HC3 as jmd the food in front of the camera is showing sharp and blurred jmd of about 2 meter behind it? "Because so much here been said, is because of the HC3 does everything automatically, I thought that to hire them something that is blurred, once again makes sharp.
Finally, I would ask what you recommend for such equipment which würdet.Also tripod etc.Ich times have seen a sort of shell, with which one can shoot underwater with the HC3, but I think this coat is no longer on the net, because I could probably jmd . help.
Sagn I must, however, synonymous something that I'm afraid that the camera s.meinen new LG plasma does not work :-) So, I would deal with me once a few basics. The technical stuff can be scrutinized and the Photographic can be learned. Synonymous of man must not have all the latest news, if you have almost no idea. Here are a few throw hysterical questions in the round, not replace it all. The people who had to answer this question, draw the synonymous itself. It just takes patience and a lot of knowledge when embarking on such a complex matter, which is absolutely nothing for the hasty!
Correction to readers: That's right, I can only sign! It is an affront to serve what some people here to help. Nothing against typos, but such a spelling ignorance (or what is it else?) Is improper.
Antwort von Olli86:
Oh my God. I wrote the article when I was extremely tired, and I also got ne nunmal rechtschreibung bad, since you can now slay me as thou wilt, but over these comments, I stand drüber.Ich'm not a bloody beginner as far as cutting and shooting, but eg I've never tried to portray something blurred on a film, I do not know how to stop this is macht.Wo because the problem? And I s.Calculator demand for HD is still synonymous normal.Ich would actually think I nem normal ilink cable with no HD movie war on nen calculator because it is said always that you need HDMI, but since I have no port, I would stop for alternatives fragen.Wo here is the problem? I Premiere 5.0, obviously too old. I need a new one, but does not know what is suitable and ask for help.
Hey, where is the problem?
I've lost the Internet address where you can get the underwater equipment and therefore ask whether jmd know where to find it.
Problem?
And with the cassette has once said jmd's why I want to ask if you are there.
But to me is synonymous no preference as long as some users go into here at me and try to answer my questions, everything is here synonymous ok.Das are nice people I already know
Antwort von videohoschi:
The following information (see section below) tells me the staff of Sonywith: Of course, the SonyHC3 HDV can output only on "real" HDTV TVs s.42er size, which will soon be only on the market. In current devices with HD-ready can be viewed only 720 * 576p! "
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I have now done with the device HDV recording, which I spend over HDMI - DVI-D s.hd-Ready Philips LCD TV (7320).
The picture seems synonymous (and s.sich looks very good), but is at the top s.Rand a failure and the status display of Sonyzeigt as value for HDMI output (only) 720 * in 576p - which surely does not HDV or HDTV Resolutionist!? Or am I wrong?
Now I'm not synonymous beginners and have already checked all the settings, get as synonymous for a long time, the 1080i signal from the Humax HDTV Receiver via HDMI-DVI nicely on the Philips.
Would you like to put it very grateful for the info! Alone would be interesting to have the info if / that (the device for status review under HDMI output synonymous different values?) For true HDTV display indicates! In the worst case it could indeed be synonymous, be a device failure or some other incompatibility?
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Of course, HD-Ready in a real maximum Resolutionvon 1366 * 768 is no "real" HDTV, but you could expect of the HDV device (like the Humax now) synonymous "sure" the maximum possible to get HDTV display!?
Otherwise, I would find all the advertising for the device at least misleading - when almost nobody is synonymous HDV tatächlich full or maximum possible resolution marriages!
mfG
videohoschi
Antwort von neuer Gast:
To all who are synonymous with problems of the HDMI connection.
In the meantime, I have exchanged once the 50-euro expensive HDMI cables. As it seems to me, have so many users using the HDMI output no signal load, or at least a reduced signal assignment with lesser resolution.
With me at all coming out no signal. On it, according to LG LG Germany are under no circumstances. The Television yes transmits synonymous Notebook RGB signals without quirks about the DVI input.
Sonysagte me I needed to pick up the camera. This is what I want to avoid, if it turns out that there will not still work, when a synonymous Sony has durchgescheckt technicians the Camera. As it would in general with an opinion of Sony. I think that this is synonymous Sony familiar forum.
Perhaps in the meantime HDR-HC3, but several models have been posted. In any case, the service center of Sonysehr was friendly. The experienced in modern times not always.
MfG.
Antwort von floreg:
I had already decided for the HC3, but now I'm beginning fluctuate see at ...
what is it 720x576?
And how true HDTV s.42 only goes off? And why are no real HDTVs on the market? "I'm confused. Can anyone take time to videohoschis Position Statement?" I believe one of those in the know?
Thank you
floreg
Antwort von Jan:
Now have to "serve us" for the SonyNichtorentierung is always amazing how the really produziernden companies have no idea of their devices.
BSP 2 JVC MG 60 here today ....
VG
January
Antwort von HDVideot:
Hello,
erstmal Thanks for all the tests and especially the original sample videos.
What I would still like to know how to through the use of POL, and / or have ND filter, etc. to improve the HDTV recordings.
Search for a long time corresponding comparison for DV video, but I am yet to find it now
Could someone provide that comparison videos? Or links?
Thank you in advance.
Antwort von Markus:
What I would still like to know how to through the use of POL, and / or have ND filter, etc. to improve the HDTV recordings. Polarizer? - Yes, absolutely!
See synonymous:
For what / when what filter? Was you the examples of Cokin already?
Antwort von Bruno Peter:
So, I dine with the Philips 37PF9830 the HDR-HC3 camcorder with 1080i via HDMI ... everything is fine ...
Antwort von HD Rolf:
Hello,
with HDMI / DVI cable I have s.LCD BenQ DV 3750 (native 1920x1080), synonymous only a
720x576 output.
With the same cable I have s.meinem Sanyo Z2 projector (native 1280x720) synonymous
1280x720p Picture transmission.
The problem is probably not s.der HC3 alone, but s.den Kombatibilitätsproblemen between manufacturers.
Gruß Rolf
Antwort von Neu:
I have tried to play diverses of the camera on a 4:3 TV, the tape, but it does not work. Has anyone any advice? Thank you.
Antwort von Duisburger:
The best way you play out on a 16:9 TV, the HC3, which takes up to 16:9.
