Frage von Absoluter Laie:
Hello experts,
have old S-VHS-C tape, which I borrowed to S-VHS recorder will play. The cassette adapter, however, is an ancient (20 years) VHS-C to VHS cassette adapter.
Obviously this does not work correctly. Are there special adapter cassettes of S-VHS-C to S-VHS?
Greeting
The absolute layman
Antwort von Markus:
The cassette adapter, however, is an ancient (20 years) VHS-C to VHS cassette adapter. It does not matter, VHS (-C) and SVHS (-C) is exactly the same externally.
Obviously this does not work correctly. Are there special adapter cassettes of S-VHS-C to S-VHS? No, there is no specific cassette adapter for SVHS-C. It is possible that the present adapter broken?
Antwort von Der absolute Laie:
Hi Markus,
Thanks for the info.
VHS-C cassette adapter in, I can with this recorder to play without any problems. Only S-VHS looks really bad.
Had suggested that perhaps S-VHS tapes on the back of an encoding (deepening) of the recorder and have now problems with the playback, because it is an S-VHS tape reads but no marker for S-VHS finds.
But obviously it is not so.
Greeting
The absolute layman
Antwort von Markus:
SVHS tapes differs externally (from the print aside) nothing of a VHS-tape. Have just two tapes from the archive fetched and compared.
The recorder must be so according to the information stored on the magnetic recognize. I have with my VHS-C adapter already synonymous VHS and SVHS tapes digitized. That went smoothly.
How can you ensure that the recording on the SVHS-C tape is in order? And is the SVHS recorder correctly?
Antwort von Der "fast" ab:
Hi Markus,
I had the idea came with the coding, because my S-VHS-C tape to the back except for the "Protecting encoding" the far right outside next to the expression for the correct positioning of a further cut is. This is in the normal VHS-C tape does not exist.
Background of the whole action:
Bin dabei stocks using my old HDD recorder digitizer and then to external hard drive to save it. Which initially had with my old JVC S-VHS-C Camera made. This has unfortunately become abandoned their minds.
The S-VHS recorder, I have now over the weekend of our training center loaned. Worked there with normal S-VHS tapes correctly. Therefore assume that he is OK.
Greeting
At least in the audio / video Affairs absolute layman, otherwise, in the IT sector, somewhat less layman.
Antwort von Markus:
Hmmm ... I do not have SVHS-C tapes given to the closer look at times. On my cassette adapter is synonymous only VHS-C on it and I have so many customers already tapes (both VHS-C as synonymous SVHS-C) is played.
Antwort von Der "fast" ab:
Hi Markus,
My first ambition is required then, the problem with on-board resources, including information gathered to solve.
Worst-case solution: With e-Bay a used S-VHS-C camera to buy.
Should I fail so synonymous, I was a fallback position. 've Seen on your site that you do something professionally.
Will I then contact you if necessary.
Greeting
The "almost absolute" layman
PS Did I not a "big" S-VHS tape, to see whether the addition to the manifestations of the normal VHS tape synonymous the next expression on the right has.
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
Hmmm ... I do not have SVHS-C tapes given to the closer look at times. On my cassette adapter is synonymous only VHS-C on it and I have so many customers already tapes (both VHS-C as synonymous SVHS-C) is played. Hi,
True, they are encoded: You could at VHS-C tapes only a supposed punching out break-carving and then had an S-VHS-C cassette. Mechanically it was the same. I had was a Mitsubishi C40, which has this self-update-recorded tapes perfectly.
The adapter is completely wurst, what's inside a cassette. The only ensures that the tape adapter in both sides will be excited and then together with the housing form an (S) VHS tape is.
About the sources of error can only guess: in magnetic storage environment? procumbent stored? S-VHS material seemed to me "then" anno 92 not quite as tough to be ...
BG
Andreas
Antwort von Markus:
... True, they are encoded: You could at VHS-C tapes only a supposed punching out break-carving and then had an S-VHS-C cassette. So when SVHS-C, there is a difference in the cassette housing and in Full-VHS is not? - Is so strange! How can a SVHS recorder the difference, if not s.gespeicherten video?
For Hi8 there were definitely differences in the cassette housing, so that a recorder is recognized, whether it is a Video8 or Hi8 tape involved. However, the recorder is recognized synonymous, when on a Hi8 tape in Video8 was recorded. Otherwise would be a representation with only disturbances have been possible.
How is that for (S) VHS (-C)? -am * curious *
Antwort von jerazi:
For S-VHS, there was a coding / punched on the tape. If your adapter of this "hole" does not have to recognize your VCR tape not as an S-VHS and the quality is Sch ....
Antwort von Eva Maier:
How about because it - the battery in the switch adapter.
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Antwort von Der "fast" La:
The battery is only there to the engine when you insert the cassette to motivate the Spreizmechanik to activate the tape and be positioned so that it is of a standard VHS recorder mechanically correctly can be .. This means that the battery has absolutely nothing with the signal processing to be done.
Antwort von Eva Maier:
Something wrong here, because for me that is something else, (or I've read me)
the big SVHS tapes have an extra hole, it is possible for example from nomalen SVHS VHS cassettes to make plays, unfortunately, in most cases the material with tape.
For the kids (VHS-C is nothing to see except that compared to the write protection where the gear is, a deepening of the housing is.
The VHS-C might be slightly different than S-VHS is NEW to me,
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Antwort von jerazi:
That with the Battery was good. However serves in my opinion, only the mechanics to support it. I have now, however my adapter from the cellar to fetch as rauszunehmen before it expires. Maybe
brauch ich ja nochmal part. On the back (not on the back!) Is left entirely to S-VHS tapes and my adapter (Hama) a hole that VHS tapes do not have. This is the "coding".
Antwort von jerazi:
Hello absolute layman,
how's it because times with an exact description of the error?
Antwort von Eva Maier:
http://www.tdk-europe.com/index.php?id=44&lang=de
Everything back,!
However, VHS-C and S-VHS-C mechanically detected.
When adapter is small is an additional lever of the hole depending on whether a cut is there or not and on to make.
Is not just me because I noticed a strange way, no S-VHS-C had
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Antwort von Eva Maier:
Beautiful once again that all postings have overlapped and we at least as far as mechanics are concerned agree.
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Antwort von Eva Maier:
What looked as s.Recorder out with me SVHS is illuminated when I insert SVHS. (JVC and Panasonic recorder)
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Antwort von Markus:
What looked as s.Recorder out with me SVHS is illuminated when I insert SVHS. True, that's just with my Panasonic, and still before the tape is threaded. This suggests that the cassette housing is already an indication of the tape there.
I must try it out, what happens if I have an SVHS tape with a VHS recorder examples and then insert into the FS200 ... (for the next (S) VHS digitizing)
Antwort von Eva Maier:
That will probably not work correctly.
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Antwort von Markus:
Sounds so, when did you have ever made. - Report! ;-)
Antwort von Der nicht mehr ganz Laie:
Dear forum participants,
in the light of the many contributions my problem seems to be that the power comes from a time (1987) when there was no S-VHS and so no additional coding was mechanical. This allows the recorder to the mechanical "way does not detect whether an S-VHS tape, ie it assumes that there is a standard VHS tape and is the S-VHS-interpret information is not clean.
Clearly, the newer adapter here an additional feature.
The error for me is simply that the picture whenever there are sharp contrasts, of the contrast point of view "colored streaks" on both sides of the screen edge draw and / or smaller-contrast details simply by colored squares and represents or simply " thin stripes "are available. Is the picture contrast / detailarm it could be described almost as well.
The recorder used is a device from the "professional world" with a serial interface for connecting with the rest of audio / video technology in a training center. Ie cassette is inserted, then auto blinds down lighting is dimmed, projector is switched on, audio system is turned on, etc.
I will now as a first step, just 20 euros to invest, to order a new adapter and see if it works.
Thank you for your contributions.
Greeting
The "not quite" layman
Antwort von Eva Maier:
Then you bohrst simply a 4 mm diameter holes pure and save you 20 Euros.
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Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
So when SVHS-C, there is a difference in the cassette housing and in Full-VHS is not? - Is so strange! How can a SVHS recorder the difference, if not s.gespeicherten video?
Yeah, I never claimed. The C formats, it is definitely so with the extra recess. The adapter has both S-VHS recorder functions as synonymous in the ordinary recorder, in the latter were of course the S-cassette not read correctly.
Whether the adapter any differences to a VHS tape or mechanical components, the corresponding cut-over, I do not know anymore. I've never respected it ... it was always halt.
BG
Andreas
Antwort von Der "fast absolute:
Dear forum participants,
because I did not know exactly where the hole needs to be appropriate, I created a new cassette adapter increased.
Behold, as expected, my problem is solved and the recordings or copies are to HDD first.
Thanks again for your constructive contributions.
The "almost absolute" layman
Antwort von Luis1906:
Hi together. The S-VHS Cas. erkenntz it to a VHS Cas.,
apart of the label on the back, both in the upper part a groove. The S-VHS Cas. Page s.der right has a hole approximately 3mm in the groove. The VHS Cas. not.
Antwort von Markus:
The S-VHS Cas. Page s.der right has a hole approximately 3mm in the groove. The VHS Cas. not. Fact! That was me in my last search for topical differences did not notice but now I see it synonymous. The SVHS tape on the bottom has a hole where the VHS tape has none.
