Frage von MisteriousmisterX:
On the Red side, we read that they have decided that for 2009, announced Scarlet again to fundamentally change.
Weiss jmd here for more about the changes?
Antwort von Valentino:
Oh yes but that's a coincidence that now after the new 5D Mark II herrauskommt the RED Scarlet again his revised.
I think the RED does not quite know how their new model should look like.
Does anyone actually know how much of the actual RED Finanzikrise in the U.S. is concerned, having already FOCUS Enhancements is broke.
Antwort von strike300xxx:
Na da bin ich aber mal gespannt was da raus comes.
Hopefully, a better design!
The old saw me not very accessible from practice.
Antwort von domain:
If the major Japanese camera manufacturers wanted, they could probably within 6 months of a camcorder imagine the Scarlet with their current approach would hinwegfegen.
The entire technology is already available to them.
Two things can be seen in the current development on the first try: first, have your camcorder with a very large sensor and interchangeable lenses chip dimensions of Schultercamcordern not have and secondly, they may find a fraction of that at the same time excellent lenses cost.
All other arguments in favor of the pro-monster: XLR, optical bench, dockable compendium, etc. etc. do not really do everything feasible and not a real problem and a slightly different enclosure would be synonymous quickly designed.
The really exciting in the future will be the extent to which this Manufacturer her own business in totally overpriced professional market will want to ruin.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Arguments in favor of the pro-Monster: Optical bench ... .. Where you suspect an "optical bench" with camcorders?
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von domain:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optische_Bank
A massive box mat, you will hardly s.Lens connect an external monitor and probably synonymous hardly s.Accessory shoe mount can ;-)
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... A massive mat box, you will hardly s.Lens bolt ... Since you have right of course, but then we are talking here of a so-called "Rod Support." What, in contrast, an optical bank, so is in the linked Wikipedia article very well be found ;-)
BTW: XLR Connections, compendia and Rod Supports today are no more arguments for the "Professional Monster" - this is long synonymous offered for smaller camcorders.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von domain:
OK, Rod Support I meant.
Kamerabody a widescreen format (instead of horizontally as is currently in camcorders) with relatively large rear area, I believe, incidentally is not uninteresting. He could be a comparatively very large display (possibly with side blinkers gegegen light) record, so maybe an external monitor unnecessary.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... A Kamerabody in widescreen format ... with quite a large rear area, I believe, incidentally is not uninteresting ... In the consumer field, there was quite a lot - for example, of Sharp and Canon - but enforced, the Querbauweise not. What was interesting was the approach course. But who knows: Maybe one dares Manufacturer (again) a revolution?
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von iasi:
the info-politics of red is always pretty poor - there are short hingeworfen happen and the fans balgt to it (335 posts in less than 24h and no info on the new specs).
The Canon 5D is now synonymous not just to get what the video functions beetrifft ... H.264 ...
already prefer to 720p Motion JPEG the nikon D90 ...
But ultimately, are the only dsrl and no video cameras ...
But what is clear (and has been synonymous the casio ex-f1 shown):
1. the sensors are fast enough (even the otherwise lame sensor panasonic g1 creates 60fps)
2. The processor performance is sufficient
3. ssd set to continuously
4. now needs only one times the existing technology in an 35mm housing with a video camera to pack.
maybe it's exactly what has now red.
Antwort von iasi:
oh yes - I must go but still be synonymous:
red is keen on big announcements, but mostly in hints to lose ... lose and unfortunately, these announcements in a brief message and then be silent:
red-raw in premiere cs3 just now and scarlet
quite convincing, this is not ... even with her red one, they could not promise delivery comply.
Antwort von domain:
..... but ultimately are the only dsrl and no video cameras ...
Could be synonymous, but that in some time, perhaps classic camcorder as fossil relics of a bygone era will see.
Imagine a camcorder with RIG-like 2 handles widescreen format with a high resolution 7 "- Display on the back before (about a 16 * 9 cm postcard), s.den you if necessary, a perfectly adapted anatomically Shoulder Support can hook .
Antwort von Axel:
All other arguments in favor of the pro-monster: XLR, optical bench, dockable compendium, etc. etc. do not really do everything feasible and not a real problem and a slightly different enclosure would be synonymous quickly designed.
The really exciting in the future will be the extent to which this Manufacturer her own business in totally overpriced professional market will want to ruin. Is this a conspiracy theory ultimately unsustainable (in the clear:
There is a cartel of the Great, to prevent Prices in ruins, with artificially Braked - or rather sripteaseartig dose - Quality Growth in Con / Prosumerbereich), or is so obvious and undeniable, as it seems?
Then we should not nakedness give us here in ereifern speculation. Then we run a bait behind, we can never achieve (Reminds me of the hunger strike s.den chickens in
Chicken Run. What succeeds Bäurin nasty corruption? Hmmm, chicken feed, my favorite food!).
Another obvious truism by the inventor of digital camera, just in the day's topics include: A good picture is created by the photographer, not the camera ....
Antwort von WoWu:
The photo manufacturer in its entirety should be only once in the video images show reasonable range.
Anyone who has seen pictures D90 will quickly steer clear of it.
Also sharpening the edges in the D5 is not stop there. No company has the memory, let alone through the memory management for data sets with the deal.
The sensors with its pixel-monster numbers can only be interpolated Picture, which is then synonymous all artifacts of interpolation shows.
The D5 has with its Full-sensor such a low depth of field that a correct tightening of the focus during a recording (especially with the 3 "display) has an art in itself is likely to occur.
Since Hilt only one auto. Unfortunately, worked at the designated cameras in video mode not ... Like so many other features in the photograph are not synonymous.
And as far as speed is concerned .... clear, as long as with the images except one interpolation nothing is done, it's fast enough, but woe if the same requirements as in the video asked. Not even higher rates of the CMOS readout are possible, so that RS presented in all its beauty, much less of a processing of the image, which now includes almost any camcorder.
The parts of their ergonomics are synonymous not just for current pictures set up.
And so could the number of parameters nor any verbesserbaren continue ... perhaps there are a few more years really a good NIKON Camera (for current photos).
But as long as companies have at least as RED ahead, because it's the least of the horse right side; Page.
Incidentally, the use of such pixel-monster once again counter-productive .... sensor for the perfect video is very different.
The D5 and D90 will be a banger for VJ whose requirements for Internet quality SD and stop.
And of course to the DoF Feteschisten, which not enough blur in the picture can be.
Thus, every product has its customer ...
Antwort von Bernd E.:
Hilt ... Because only one auto. Unfortunately, worked at the designated cameras in video mode not ... The 5D is in the video mode used by the AF, but not exactly in a super-fast variant: Who wants to film the race car, but should be better to use a different camera ;-)
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von iasi:
The photo manufacturer in its entirety should be only once in the video images show reasonable range.
Anyone who has seen pictures D90 will quickly steer clear of it.
Also sharpening the edges in the D5 is not stop there. No company has the memory, let alone through the memory management for data sets with the deal. this is a fallacy ... who up to 15fps in the double-pixel format can wegspeichern who has 2k synonymous with no problems
The sensors with its pixel-monster numbers can only be interpolated Picture, which is then synonymous all artifacts of interpolation shows.
The D5 has with its Full-sensor such a low depth of field that a correct tightening of the focus during a recording (especially with the 3 "display) has an art in itself is likely to occur.
Since Hilt only one auto. Unfortunately, worked at the designated cameras in video mode not ... Like so many other features in the photograph are not synonymous.
But this is exactly the 35mm depth of field are all very sharp, with a cinema-look to have
moreover, the large sensors the small video-cam-sliced far ahead ... because even when it roars ISO1600 yet ...
And as far as speed is concerned .... clear, as long as with the images except one interpolation nothing is done, it's fast enough, but woe if the same requirements as in the video asked. Not even higher rates of the CMOS readout are possible, so that RS presented in all its beauty, much less of a processing of the image, which now includes almost any camcorder.
na - the professionals love raw ... and associated with the processing in the postpro.
The parts of their ergonomics are synonymous not just for current pictures set up.
And so could the number of parameters nor any verbesserbaren continue ... perhaps there are a few more years really a good NIKON Camera (for current photos). current pictures?
We are talking here of unlimited photo series - nothing else is on film - and which creates a nikon readily (the mirror and the image are the stumbling block - not the sensor) ... even the sensor of the lame panasonic g1 brings 60fps.
and einzelbildbasiernde codecs are much better than MPG2, h.264 and co.
But as long as companies have at least as RED ahead, because it's the least of the horse right side; Page. na which is probably outside the sleeve, otherwise they would not be the scarlet suddenly completely upside. with their 2 / 3 "sensor lure they no longer behind the oven before ... even a casio ex-f1 with its 1/1.8" sensor has already 60fps in 3k-format ... and sony has been a sensor, the same can ... [/ quote]
Incidentally, the use of such pixel-monster once again counter-productive .... sensor for the perfect video is very different.
The D5 and D90 will be a banger for VJ whose requirements for Internet quality SD and stop.
And of course to the DoF Feteschisten, which not enough blur in the picture can be.
Thus, every product has its customer ... na - red one-view videos, you will soon realize what bring large sensors ... or simply look at the pictures of a nikon dsrl with a compact camera compare ...
pixel compact, some probably even more to offer than some dsrl - only quality of the sensor's size ...
sensor has the perfect 35mm format and therefore triggers alone far higher than a smaller sensor with the same pixel number - sometimes not to mention the noise.
Incidentally, the higher sensitivity of the large sensor level synonymou
Antwort von iasi:
..... but ultimately are the only dsrl and no video cameras ...
Could be synonymous, but that in some time, perhaps classic camcorder as fossil relics of a bygone era will see.
Imagine a camcorder with RIG-like 2 handles widescreen format with a high resolution 7 "- Display on the back before (about a 16 * 9 cm postcard), s.den you if necessary, a perfectly adapted anatomically Shoulder Support can hook . yes - I can very well imagine ... but a mirror like a dsrl then certainly have not synonymous.
I think even in the photo, the mirror-chen for overhaul.
Antwort von iasi:
All other arguments in favor of the pro-monster: XLR, optical bench, dockable compendium, etc. etc. do not really do everything feasible and not a real problem and a slightly different enclosure would be synonymous quickly designed.
The really exciting in the future will be the extent to which this Manufacturer her own business in totally overpriced professional market will want to ruin.
Is this a conspiracy theory ultimately unsustainable (in the clear: There is a cartel of the Great, to prevent Prices in ruins, with artificially Braked - or rather sripteaseartig dose - Quality Growth in Con / Prosumerbereich), or is so obvious and undeniable, as it seems?
Then we should not nakedness give us here in ereifern speculation. Then we run a bait behind, we can never achieve (Reminds me of the hunger strike s.den chickens in Chicken Run. What succeeds Bäurin nasty corruption? Hmmm, chicken feed, my favorite food!).
Another obvious truism by the inventor of digital camera, just in the day's topics include: A good picture is created by the photographer, not the camera .... so that the profit area is sealed off, is nothing new ... The professionals pay for a few screws like 10 times to get it off from the consumer ...
in the graphics area is the long practiced quite openly - the only difference in the hardware is only in the small difference that prevents consumer cards with the profit drivers are running - the chips are the same - and only with these profit drivers are then the functions offered , the profit software required. ... as can be ie a solder joint the price tenfold.
Antwort von Marco:
The mirror with EVIL may soon be history - and this is one of the last major hurdles on the path of the series to the screen photography Videography fallen.
Marco
Antwort von Valentino:
Wolgang wants us once again the beautiful love Still Image / Video world to explain.
I just hope you're happy now we have clarified your beliefs.
I think that everyone in the D5 and D90 has understood that you are such a camera as a replacement to a RED, EX1 or XL-H1 will buy.
The 21 pixels are Milione maybe for you as an absolute overkill video man, but for a photographer opens the D5 II in terms of quality, a new world. Of course, the 21 mil. Pixel no better pictures, but they mean in terms of quality is a quantum leap. Unlike video, it has been put in the photo shop in the world Resolution35mm small clear film to beat.
I can imagine synonymous small projects with a short film II D5 to rotate, with a clever rig, a decent HD monitor (The camera has an HDMI output) and L-optics is nothing in the way.
Also interesting would be if the video on HDMI output already in the H.264 format, or comes directly from Siganlprozessor.
Topic focus, there are capable people who call and Focuspuller could sowas.
Antwort von iasi:
now ... red will probably just make something like: RED DSMC (Digital Still & Motion Camera Image) ... unfortunately cancel the ever pretty much s.and push it back from the table ...
Antwort von iasi:
Unlike video, it has been put in the photo shop in the world Resolution35mm small clear film to beat.
the 4k cameras offer s.ende (ie in 4k cinematic) better quality and resolution than a 35mm copy movies with her about 2k.
Antwort von iasi:
oh yes ... and D90 and the 5d still this:
http://s477.photobucket.com/albums/rr134/jamesmel9/?action=view¤t=DSC_0012.flv
These are just particularly SLRs ... the h.264 codec, the 5d is in addition a right postpro mist.
but there will certainly still come ...
casio even now with the new ex-f20 the motion-JPEG format at 720p ... but unfortunately with a small sensor (in camera size) ...
Antwort von Valentino:
Unlike video, it has been put in the photo shop in the world Resolution35mm small clear film to beat.
the 4k cameras offer s.ende (ie in 4k cinematic) better quality and resolution than a 35mm copy movies with her about 2k. Important: Please read first, then to give his mustard.
I have extra video written, if I have a RED or D21 would have meant as D-Cinema Camera and are not video.
4k topic, my camera is still not known the full 4k Resolutionauch really can record, or a post production completely in the 4k of equip goes. That is until now the only really big Hollywood Shooting reserved.
The pure digital path fails for most movies s.der missing 4k projectors.
Since I have a 35mm Faz in 4k or a direct copy, so the beautiful old analog way s.um lot better.
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Iasi
this is a fallacy ... who up to 15fps in the double-pixel format can wegspeichern who has 2k synonymous with no problems
Look at times exactly what is happening on the buses alone, the P2 store's going on and then computed the times in order to offer higher data rates.
Furthermore, it is for example in relation to the RS a question of how fast the image sensor can be read and the video will be synonymous with the full Resolutionausgelesen synonymous only if afterwards it will be 2k at 8bit. That's the "curse" ... the sensor is not large, but irrelevant for video pixel count. There are pictures from the 15 already 60 and if it is still synonymous with the 3-fold read speed will be there already 180th If one takes only 3 time intervals for partial Blendenauslesung, the clock speed again in the Height ... and unfortunately, uses the sensor most of it into heat ... For 15 pictures ... everything not an issue, but here it goes to video.
But this is exactly the 35mm depth of field are all very sharp, with a cinema-look to have Error ... Movie (depth) to which all the
"so-sharp" is Full is
transverse, that is only half as large. You may not Small 35mm with 35 mm film format confused.
na - the professionals love raw ... and associated with the processing in the postpro. If mentioned at one of the video cameras in RAW format out?
the mirror and the image are the stumbling block - not the sensor Where is the mirror in the video mode a brake? Or do you mean, because even 30 x klappt the second a high level?
The sensor is an obstacle, because the target size only by interpolation to achieve ... therefore synonymous the artifacts and the beautiful noise goes freedom namely "the brook" down .. plenty of edges to come into the picture sharpness.
einzelbildbasiernde codecs are much better than MPG2, h.264 and co. What do you think is going is MJPEG?
And did you look at the (video) - Pictures from the D90 have views?
Since you have your "einzelbildbasierten" codec and see it in every picture.
what sensors bring great ... Please read closely: I have written pixel monsters .... and not something against large sensors, quite the contrary.
Sensors with pixel pitches of more than 6y are indeed a good thing for video when I just 21 million pixels by a factor of 10 must be interpolated, are synonymous, unfortunately many of the best starting values flutes.
sensor has the perfect 35mm format and therefore triggers alone far higher than a smaller sensor with the same pixel number -- ? Perhaps the quality of the lens ... This sensor has the large number of other disadvantages ... I'm not an advocate of small sensors, on the contrary, it is only the difficulty of the major sensors synonymous not ignore.
Incidentally, the higher sensitivity of the sensors is synonymous large the possibility of more dim with itself -- If the Lenses of these cameras even have lamella panels.
Furthermore, the diffraction increases and then there are the benefits of partial (Blendenauslesung) of the chip is lost. I knew the moment is not what I would prefer.
if necessary, one has the 35mm DOF selective-focus very quickly by aufblenden. And your video exposure do you do then with the shutter, I guess .. or in side you'll quickly while Recording on purely ND?
No, my dear, so simple it may be synonymous, but really do not. Look at m
Antwort von iasi:
And your video exposure do you do then with the shutter, I guess .. or in side you'll quickly while Recording on purely ND?
exactly - my sony FX1 has the same even 2 of them ... or just one hand, the objective ... prevail over the amount of light which, through an objective, has already had some for yourself ...
Moreover, it is simply a convenient, if the possibility of selective focus has ... which is one of the small sensors with short focal lengths simply put ...
I do not say that the dsrl of nikon or canon is the solution - but the technology shows the way ... because a lot is possible ... and it will come some synonymous ...
oh yes ... Motion JPEG (MJPEG) is a video codec where each frame separately as a JPEG picture is compressed. ... Who ever cut h.264, will understand what he has s.Motion JPEG ...
Antwort von iasi:
I have extra video written, if I have a RED or D21 would have meant as D-Cinema Camera and are not video.
4k topic, my camera is still not known the full 4k Resolutionauch really can record, or a post production completely in the 4k of equip goes. That is until now the only really big Hollywood Shooting reserved.
The pure digital path fails for most movies s.der missing 4k projectors.
Since I have a 35mm Faz in 4k or a direct copy, so the beautiful old analog way s.um lot better. Video? About the terminology here, we must not quarrel.
4k cinemas in Germany, there is really only one ... But in the U.S. as they are already quite common ... Just because Germany, like in the HDTV is a developing country, this means not that the rest of the world everything is so synonymous slowly.
What movie analog lands on the canvas has not more than 2k, which is the whole copying process is owed.
4k cameras, there are ...
Antwort von Axel:
the 4k cameras offer s.ende (ie in 4k cinematic) better quality and resolution than a 35mm copy movies with her about 2k. It's all a bit thorny, as indeed synonymous Valentino wrote:
The pure digital path fails for most movies s.der missing 4k projectors.
Since I have a 35mm Faz in 4k or a direct copy, so the beautiful old analog way s.um lot better. Would add even more: Digital cinema will be projected into square pixels. Scope for a movie means: 803 x 1920, which means then 2k! For architectural reasons from (LR distance of the speakers behind the screen, Dolby specifications) mostly smaller scope screens (according to a black bar above the picture is rather narrow wider) is not as bad as in the classic movie (canvas broadens majestically to main movie), but in any case, the sharpness of an analog copy has been unsuccessful, so the scope for the full area of the image uses. In 1:1,85 returns the invoice to: an analog picture, which is 70% of picture height gecroppt is more magnified, digitally, it is now 1080 x 2040th With the final transition to digital movies is always to be expected, everything is in the starting blocks, and of 4k is nowhere mentioned. Cinemas in fact have other problems, everyone knows it, what I mean.
I think Wolfgang is right, a DSLR camera with movie mode is no competition for Scarlett, as synonymous? About these qualities can be yes - once again - only speculate.
EDIT: I
do not explicitly argue that the resolution does not matter who is providing a full HD camcorder s.einen 2k projector connects may have the impression that his picture is as sharp as that of the movie. Unfortunately, there are other technical factors such as craftsmanship, the quality of an image influence. One of the technical one of the prominent tonal range (aperture size) for the recording and, thus, the Farbsampling of the codec (EDIT 2: My natural color
depth). The trailers of movies in web-Resolution Can you imagine a quality that with the number of pixels are not directly involved.
Antwort von iasi:
So this has surprised me but now:
http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2008/09/20/something-very-interesting-is-comingboth-to-this-blog-and-to-our-industry/#more-1085
and there's videos:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08091705canon_5dmarkII.asp
http://cweb.canon.jp/camera/5dmark2/index.html
not surprising that the specs of red scarleet changes.
Antwort von Axel:
So this has surprised me but now:
http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2008/09/20/something-very-interesting-is-comingboth-to-this-blog-and-to-our-industry/#more-1085 No doubt, anyone who has made a few nice pictures to make, should be satisfied that I myself would be synonymous. I was synonymous for an e-mail notification received as soon as the whole video online. Nevertheless, the guy seems to just not free to be a photographer, according to his own sentiment of his life with film or video s.Hut had nothing. So we wait, as the announced helicopter shots look like. A word is stuck:
Lowlight. If the chip size s.der? In any case possible, that represents the true sensation.
... and there's videos:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08091705canon_5dmarkII.asp
http://cweb.canon.jp/camera/5dmark2/index.html
not surprising that the specs of red scarleet changes. The videos are lame. When Aunt notes on the bridge so you do not know whether the Head Play had stopped. Nope, you have to see how the camera at a pub brawl "proposes", with flying fists, pans, sharpness after regulation and of course live sound. Furthermore, if this road at night ( "Movie5") these really weird Schärfeverlauf should have, I find this very unnatural. I reiterate my view that such a camcorder with 35mm adapter plus plus + Mattebox filters get
better this is.
The Lowlight with which you have to see. We are awaiting the movie:
EDIT:
Since
Antwort von iasi:
tja ... dsrl the sensors of Nikon, Canon and co are already impressive, what their low-light capabilities s.geht ...
even with the sting iso3200 still tiny, if this is set to ISO100 and tired of getting light.
and video cameras have unfortunately almost all relatively small sensors inside.
even the red one in low-light stuff with a full-format dsrl not keep up.
Moreover, I do not think much of this whole-35mm DOF deliberately - the picture quality are not just supportive.
Antwort von vulkanmarc:
I doubt the video quality of the film cameras, and was already using all the pixel, if all the compression of nadelör must. and times to fish in butter ... who can ever reasonably full hd video at home in an appropriate form play? I already have problems in my recordings XDCAM EX can share and customer hd with absolutely nothing to start, unless there are producers for BBC and natgeo. who is not for the big screen rotates, hardly needed a 3 or 4 k kamera! I prefer strong light, low-noise chips with up to Full HD resolution ... what more could you want?
by the way, who is rushing a dsrl at asa 3200 does not recognize, is blind!
Antwort von iasi:
I doubt the video quality of the film cameras, and was already using all the pixel, if all the compression of nadelör must. and times to fish in butter ... who can ever reasonably full hd video at home in an appropriate form play? I already have problems in my recordings XDCAM EX can share and customer hd with absolutely nothing to start, unless there are producers for BBC and natgeo. who is not for the big screen rotates, hardly needed a 3 or 4 k kamera! I prefer strong light, low-noise chips with up to Full HD resolution ... what more could you want? och ... I've liked a little spiel down - 3k rotate in and cut s.ende just brings better results 1080p ...
is true that even the 2k digital screens only bring in germany hdtv stuck at 720p BluRay will and the right market penetration is missing.
on the internet can be synonymous only 1080p compressed and offer round.
by the way, who is rushing a dsrl at asa 3200 does not recognize, is blind! yes - is only just the rustle of a small-sensor-cam at ISO100
Antwort von iasi:
btw: now it has taken the EPIC synonymous ...
because you have to ask ...
Antwort von iasi:
scarlet and epic are of the red side disappeared ... because one has to wonder about the reasons ...
on the one hand, there was recently the financial crisis ...
and secondly, the Amsterdam messe ...
Let's hope that the latter deciding to act were reds.
Antwort von vulkanmarc:
I doubt the video quality of the film cameras, and was already using all the pixel, if all the compression of nadelör must. and times to fish in butter ... who can ever reasonably full hd video at home in an appropriate form play? I already have problems in my recordings XDCAM EX can share and customer hd with absolutely nothing to start, unless there are producers for BBC and natgeo. who is not for the big screen rotates, hardly needed a 3 or 4 k kamera! I prefer strong light, low-noise chips with up to Full HD resolution ... what more could you want?
och ... I've liked a little spiel down - 3k rotate in and cut s.ende just brings better results 1080p ...
is true that even the 2k digital screens only bring in germany hdtv stuck at 720p BluRay will and the right market penetration is missing.
on the internet can be synonymous only 1080p compressed and offer round.
by the way, who is rushing a dsrl at asa 3200 does not recognize, is blind!
yes - is only just the rustle of a small-sensor-cam at ISO100 soso, with what program (and computer) because you cut 3k? and at least with Edius 4.6 is the broadcast quality of the at sd-hd downkonvertierten materials grotte bad, even if one of 720 50p converts ... an avid done it is certainly better, but unfortunately I did not. honestly, I have the feeling that in this forum some user inflate damn!
Antwort von iasi:
yes yes ... now - as long as it is with red-raw in Premiere Pro still does not directly work, I go away on the redcine ...
why 720p?
for arte hd?
the rest is all theory anyway, what the 3k and the scarlet are synonymous ... the red-raw material, which I've getest stems of the red one ...
... and that my quad-core is pretty in the knee goes, was to be expected ...
but 1080p processed cs3 on a quad-core quite flüsssig.
Incidentally, I hd of only with great reluctance to sd ...
Antwort von Jan:
Hilt ... Because only one auto. Unfortunately, worked at the designated cameras in video mode not ...
The 5D is in the video mode used by the AF, but not exactly in a super-fast variant: Who wants to film the race car, but should be better to use a different camera ;-)
Gruß Bernd E. What mode should it be?
I had the camera only a few minutes in hand, and thus not synonymous time throughout the whole menu to check the Canon presenter was synonymous but I think that it is not pure AF on video (for Still Image, there are yes the 3 modes)
1 - Measurement on CMOS (slowly but live image without interruption)
2 - measuring about fast AF sensor in the mirror box below - mirror flaps but fast (impossible With Video)
3 - Measurement on CMOS - a new mode which I no longer can define precisely - adjustable via the menu
A mode similar to that of video cameras knows that this means at a focal distance of a modification or amendment to the camera alone on the new recruits fact, I could not find it.
I had the AF On button press for a re-measurement to make, what works well synonymous, at least faster than the photo mode in the EOS 450 or EOS 50 D. The trigger can not be taken, which was me of Canon people synonymous confirmed -- possibly by later firmware updates or hacks.
If I were the AF On button pressed, then I had an AF - but not the permanent solution.
There may be a point in the menu to choose, with no keystroke distance in the video mode, recreated regularly, so 100% but I do not believe it.
Video started as Nikon on the set.
Soon I had more time for the Camera.
VG
Jan
Antwort von dominator-video:
red is certainly not of the financial crisis affected the owner's bank need not synonymous and there is synonymous uncovered the winners!
Antwort von iasi:
the short selling was temporarily forbidden ...
who had much money, now has less - that so great assets increased primarily through the equity bubble in ...
as always synonymous - red is probably synonymous profitable business need ...
let's see what the specifications called for november are ... and especially with how the dates will be appointed ...
Antwort von dominator-video:
Red and Apple might want to put a sack
Antwort von iasi:
charity is not synonymous appleanita werke
Antwort von iasi:
na also - at least now there is a date:
13.nov.
the new specifications and images rendered synonymous should then be read and seen to ...
"I want to say that no one has any idea how incredible this announcement will be."
na dann ... So wait and drink tea ...
can be excited in any event, his ...
Antwort von PowerMac:
Since I am really excited ... Although I know that it is synonymous nothing will be particularly great. It will sound after a big announcement for the video era paradigm shift to "Video Photo" era stands. The Red-announcements are always great, the content is not so much. They see it as Apple, to create hype and anticipation and tension synonymous with a view to an announcement.
Antwort von iasi:
yes ... red goes with it intimations that s.and at times into the national fan-base will be wild speculation to create ... one can only hope that the Committee s.ende not go backwards - in the red / scarlet forums such courses, each bar is often close to reality ...
much as is technically possible now much:
the computational power, the sensor-and memory-speed ... what does it because ultimately a lot more?
only the 1 / 1, 8 "sensor (I think of sony) creates even 60fps ... synonymous larger sensors pack at least 30fps ... now you have only the data wegschreiben ...
the casio ex-f1, finally comes to 60fps at 6mpixel - unfortunately, it is because only 60 images that you can wegspeichern - ultimately, the camera only needs a quick interface to an ssd or hdd (even up to 70MB / s to fall) and sufficient processor cooling and already had a camera with respectable 2,816 x 1,584 at 60fps ... although admittedly it up to 4gb per min. would be at 25fps (in fine mode) - but then synonymous single jpg real (whole as in the film)
for 2k would be yet more min per 4gb drin
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Iasi
If you really would be so easy ....
In this game there are almost innumerable set screws that can be matched.
It is not only the sensor size and the readout speed.
It begins with Lens, goes beyond the pixel size (fixed even more important than the sensor size), about the nature of the sensor and how the picture is scanned.
Not only too few pixels are bad, too much synonymous, because some artifacts that can be prevented.
It is next on the algorithms, up to the store because you have been right, but you see the flash modules have a look, then you will see that the problem does not stop there.
Did you views what is happening on the buses, the P2 is going on, and the "only" at 100 Mbit / s? Want to write transparent data, you need about 120! Memory cards used in parallel .... ma is not exactly as you say ... now you have only the data journeys ...
There are yet no real reason yet so little HD cameras, whose reputation in the advertising departments of the company arose.
And all the calls for ever-higher resolutions and preferably in 50p and are on 300P Time Lapse for a few enthusiasts have a perfectly normal request ... Of course everything in 12 bits. And if possible, in MPEG2, because it is so beautiful can edit.
Nee, nee, there is still a whole bunch of work to the manufacturers before we have a really good camera at a reasonable price at the store will find tables.
Antwort von iasi:
the casio ex-f1 creates 60 frames per second - a film camera exposes 24 frames per second ...
Of course it demands a lot from the data when a frame the size of 2.7 MB is, but then it would just barely 70MB / s 25b / s - this is quite manageable ...
with greater compression level casio halved the size of the data, which is synonymous to 60b / s to 100mb / s would hold.
solid state discs, these data now - and hard disk anyway.
this ssd is 240mb / s write:
http://www.ikonoskop.com/dii/80gb-ikonskop-memory-cartridge/
sensors that are fast enough, there are enough in any case.
The processors are also no longer a bottleneck.
there are developments, which are mandatory - the scarlet, the canon 5d mark II or acam dii are only the first harbinger.
2009 is around.
Antwort von iasi:
And all the calls for ever-higher resolutions and preferably in 50p and are on 300P Time Lapse for a few enthusiasts have a perfectly normal request ... Of course everything in 12 bits. And if possible, in MPEG2, because it is so beautiful can edit.
Unfortunately, that's true - if I speculate in the scarlet-forum as read, then it surprised me again and again for 3000 was some $ to get it all hopes.
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Iasi
The problem is just that the parts still with big compromises are tainted.
It is such a vendor, such as RED s.richtigen place already, at least once a compromise and a Schlusstrich explore the possibilities in the (pre-) Medium (photo sensors, etc) must be set.
After that you can finally begin, a proper combination of optics and sensor built, synonymous in the light of the changed capabilities of image sensors (partial visors, adjustable DoF, etc)
So what we really need is a second generation of IGHTS videocameras and compromise not only all sorts of products from other product. [/ list]
Antwort von Dagonator:
I wonder why a well-known manufacturer for a long time not a movie camera on the market with 35mm sensor and EF bayonet. It could not be more. The L lenses are perfectly suited to the shooting and Canon sensor has sufficient expertise to Full sensor designs with less than full HD resolution. Also, they have enough background knowledge in camera manufacturing.
I'm surprised it synonymous Nikon and Canon as the video mode in a DSLR can verkacken so.
No adjustable Aperture
No adjustable exposure time
ISO value is not adjustable
Image sequence is not adjustable. 30fps set.
For Nikon, it is better not synonymous. No Full HD and the same error, the Canon has made synonymous.
Where is the problem? I see none. The bulk of the software functions is Conditional. A Manual setting is to significantly less work than an automatic.
No, dear invents the Manufacturer so senseless Sch *** "impfwort" such as a Direct Print button.
Through a simple firmware update could be adjustable aperture and the exposure time is adjustable to make. Done. It costs the company virtually nothing and brings lots of new customers.
If you look at the fit with a function of so just a little effort to do that, we might even have left Red customers.
Sure RED is a pure film camera, but there are beginners and amateurs in the area nothing comparable. For most amateur filmmakers RED is a dream and next nothing.
The money for a DSLR around 2000-3000 ¬ has the same times a compiled part.
The brand Ding ALLEN Department of Japanese camera farmers seem completely beside the shoes to stand.
The only thing that will always push the megapixels and the adjustable ISO value. Real technical innovations are only partly built. Quite advanced in the company stands Sonyand Canon. Nikon is minimally better, the demand for their film at least DSLR only 900 ¬.
Canon celebrates the above error and Sony Lowers another thing. The Build a 24mp sensor in their camera s.Datenblatt one that looks good but in practice nothing further. In principle, when the 300D DSLR since only trivial things changed.
ISO noise was better, the more megapixels the processors and storing the images away faster. That's ...
The above is the hammer in the Canon 5D MKII 2500 ¬ a slightly better autofocus 20D installed. The 20D was the beginning of 2004 to the market and is almost 5 years old.
Now we begin to build as a failure in DSLR Video function On. Simply reingeworfen unloving. "You press a button then the camera is filming" juhu what a novelty ...
When advertising, you pay a couple of professional camera people bigger amounts so they are a 5 minutes test and video recording function on any fairs gutreden.
As SonyMinolta has bought up, I hoped a little momentum in the market and which the Manufacturer something more ambitious. But far from it, Sonysteigt at the stand level and there is nice about this.
Even as German manufacturer Leica bring nothing next. They are still used for their clients (70 year old teacher, bank directors and lawyers retired) cameras which would have operated as they were before the war and produced a digital sensor reingebaut.
I've been 5 years begeisteter amateur photographer. There are currently no DSLR s.der Cons it is no longer seen as a plus point there. Often, it seems to me as if the manufacturer intentionally weaken their camera installed in the customer forums in what has to whinge.
In the next generation will be repaired and the weakness of the Manufacturer is suddenly the hero in the camera world.
This behavior is simply Preinlich.
I hope that any camera manufacturer finally comes out and makes everything right with a Camera. To which the other synonymous Manufacturer times must move their ass.
Antwort von Ficeduld:
So yes, there are approaches, eg in Casio and Fuji.
New technologies are always delivered in measured doses. It wants the old stuff has yet to sell. If the time everything is all oil, is lightning fast engine, an alternative on the table .... or alternatively, if the first major manufacturer on the market are suddenly everybody .....
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Dagonator
I can understand the frustration along the development and so understand a piece of the Wegens I go yes synonymous with, but slightly synonymous you must understand that such a development is not just times out of the sleeve is to shake.
Überleg times ... Film was for the camera manufacturer with a super simple medium. They had to be slightly to the mechanics and optics to worry about. The film came forth and elsewhere was not only the "image sensor" synonymous but the "vault" in which each grain with 10 bit is stored. 90min film shows 6 TB in a few tin cans.
Today, the manufacturer but even this task done. And if you look at the interrelationships of the components Optics / Image Sensor / Processing and Coding + Storage viewing times, until you notice that it is not just with the handle in the drawer, the sensor manufacturer is done. Not for nothing has ARRI a sensor developed by FHI. And the problem is not low if you have a such a "conflict resolution" as the need to carry DSRL.
And "just software" is so easy to say. The whole thing happens before a tremendously close temporal context and the set of processes in real time, not just weggesteckt times. Meanwhile it is a process management. Scalable video algorithms dynamically adjust the output quality in relation to the available time and the necessary resources. And with increasing resolution (spatially and temporally), it is not easier. Meanwhile processes are already outsourced, because raw data is nothing less than saving the next part of the process.
Also the saving of data in real time but not just so to do. If I transparently HD data on smart card do I need to save more than 120 parallel recording chip cards.
Now you can ausrechen what 1080p50 perhaps in 10bit and 4:2:2 s.Speicher would be required ....
Time is the critical factor and the consumers seem not to allow the manufacturers. Also in NLEs should everything possible in real time (even better, faster) and run simultaneously in any spatial and temporal resolution, but other methods are not accepted and a few euros more for a DSP support are already too many.
So this does not really and I can companies like Leica perfectly understand that they are not s.die ever dissatisfied, who are perfectly Still image, movie and perfectly possible in the whole pocket-size (for the holidays) and for a few hundred dollars have want.
In this respect, developments such as the RED has welcomed and of course set a trend ... Eierlegendewollmilchsau but it will be synonymous in a few years .... do not give and certainly not for 1000 EUR.
Antwort von Dagonator:
I realize that there is a lot working for a camera manufacturer is a new camera on the market. Mir is synonymous clear which one technology is not much for under 1000 ¬ can get.
Yet it says in my eyes is not the one the camera may be down to 24p. The data volume is smaller and not bigger.
A non-adjustable ISO value is synonymous not really explainable.
Canon and Nikon are companies where their customers are completely no preference. Vorallem Canon ...
As Sonydie Alpha 700 on the market has had a very strong Rauschunderdrückung built into the camera. Even in RAW mode, they could not turn off.
After a number of compute-insurgency customers Sonyein the firmware update brought this feature off.
In the case of Canon, you can only dream of so what.
What concerns the technology, there is only 1 company to try something new, and this is Olympus. They warn the first with a sensor cleaning system. They had a sensor as the first IS, the first they had a live view monitor, warn them first in which the AF in Live View mode works.
All others are only 1 generation later, so come because they've seen so what the Olympus cameras into the fitting.
Cleaning sensor, Live View, Contrast AF Olympus are still better than the other manufacturers. I am amazed that they have no video mode in the Camera have.
Unfortunately disturbs me s.Olympus the sensor size. Funnily enough, Olympus has the camera at relatively cheap prices and still sell the cameras of them relatively poor. Everything spins remains to Canon or Nikon.
There are countless other examples. Pentax does zb their cameras ¬ 500 Splash to get fixed. Canon has it in front of the 5D MKII not even at 2500 ¬ cameras managed.
Zeiss and Leica to create it themselves so their cheapest Lenses extradite them synonymous functioning. For Canon, it is normal that a lens has a Fehlfokus.
Instead of controlling the quality to increase build they prefer a Justagemöglichkeit into the Camera On. If it does not fit the content itself is adjusting ...
A friend of me has been in 1800 at ¬ 85mm 1.2 II Lens purchased. When it is unpacked it, was seen between the lenses larger metal fragments, some of which were synonymous in photos. Only about 3 weeks after service worked flawlessly.
That it can not be ... If you have a product to almost 2000 ¬ buys it is normally assumed that it works flawlessly synonymous.
Somehow I find a shame the camera manufacturers like Olympus cameras so few sell and a reputation from Auseinseiterkameras have. I myself had recently again in the hand. Really nice appliances only the sensors are somewhat weakly.
But what ... villeicht times are a producer gas and all other shows where the hammer hangs. Then, look at the big synonymous a little press on the gas. At Canon, it surprised me that they recently lost more and more customers.
Antwort von iasi:
@ Dagonator
... Film was for the camera manufacturer with a super simple medium. They had to be slightly to the mechanics and optics to worry about. aua ... na as or better than-thou duly understatement ...
the rest is all digital technology long available - but you have nothing more really to reinvent - and there are already several synonymous cameras ...
the old film technology as simple and easy and modern digital technology as a complicated and difficult to manage that seems worth looking into.
Antwort von WoWu:
Well, the reasoning followed so synonymous:
The film came forth and elsewhere was not only the "image sensor" synonymous but the "vault" in which each grain with 10 bit is stored. 90min film shows 6 TB in a few tin cans.
Today, the manufacturer but even this task done. And if you look at the interrelationships of the components Optics / Image Sensor / Processing and Coding + Storage viewing times, until you notice that it is not just with the handle in the drawer, the sensor manufacturer is done. the rest is all digital technology long available - but you have nothing more really to reinvent - and there are already several synonymous cameras ... Apparently not.
Show me the 1080p50, which is for 1-2 thousand to buy, which fits to every NLE are easy to process images in great quality and an invisible codec and makes a perfect handling, offering for the cameraman.
Dus ask you just before the so ... it takes is just a lens, is a sensor and an image memory, so just because film several images are aligned, and that's it.
If you would just as easily.
Or how do you imagine that before?
Antwort von iasi:
Well, the reasoning followed so synonymous:
Apparently not.
Show me the 1080p50, which is for 1-2 thousand to buy, which fits to every NLE are easy to process images in great quality and an invisible codec and makes a perfect handling, offering for the cameraman.
Dus ask you just before the so ... it takes is just a lens, is a sensor and an image memory, so just because film several images are aligned, and that's it.
If you would just as easily.
Or how do you imagine that before? Material relating to film:
The fluctuations in the Emullsionen were and are unlikely to come to grips with why the pros are not without their basic material from a series of production take.
The handling of the film vault "and the development processes are defizil.
and and and ...
The price is apparent from the numbers - and also the important question of which market the product is intended.
The best example are the graphics cards for computers:
The hardware is the same, but the price of a professional card umpteen times a gamer card.
The sensors provide long been at 60p even far higher Resolutionals 1920x1080 ... synonymous and image processors can with the amount of data needed for 1080p incurred bypass. Not only for the CPUs, there are constant power duplication.
Download? Depending on the data, there are several ways ...
Ultimately, you can use a sensor block synonymous with a laptop connect.
Example:
http://mv.dalsa.com/Web/home.nsf/MainFrame/MainFrame?OpenDocument&L_FS=Gb&C_FS=PgTopGb&T_FIG=pg&C_FIG=PgNavProductsGb&db_FID=products.nsf&T_FID=frm&C_FID=Frm_camera?OpenForm&L_FID=Gb
Would the Casio ex-f1 modify so that the data stored in the cache, straight to a storage media spend would be if it were a 3k camera. Probably would have to be cooled better processor, but it would go.
Finally, the camera is already more than 208MB / s at 2816 x 2112 and 60fps.
Even the cache would be for just under 10 seconds 1080p25 enough - less than in single images and not in groups such as mpg or h.264 ... Casio and this would have only a few changes to make s.der firmware, as they themselves with the open source program - Canon cameras are possible.
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Iasi
The fluctuations in the Emullsionen were and are unlikely to come to grips with why the pros are not without their basic material from a series of production take. That sounds just as his films are not yet on the media FILM been incorporated, because the problems do not get to grips with is ...
And I understand you so that you do, with the electronics would now everything is much simpler.
Of course, there are for each individual feature both applications, as synonymous solutions for dedicated hardware.
But why do you think there is still no perfect solution so combined?
Why should extra ARRI an image sensor, developed by FHI, if it countless "appropriate" sensors in the free market to buy there?
Why did DALSA just the flagships those of you in the link listed sensors are not installed, but only in industrial cameras used?
And of course you can 3Gb / s synonymous from the appropriate interfaces to an external recorder and transferring data reduction must not use more .. Then the camera will cost 1,500 EUR and 250,000 of the recorder? This really makes sense?
Do you have the laptop and the software to the "Field" with 3 Gb / s to deal?
What do you mean synonymous why it has become a priority processing in the cameras there? Certainly not, because the resulting processes are all just so done .... and when the cameras are still a long way from the required temporal and spatial resolution making.
And raw data output is not entirely voluntary process, but has already resulted in part from the fact that PP is not satisfactory enough processes to distribute and a large part of it is shifted outwards.
Of course there are intermediate solutions synonymous with mild and moderate codecs features, undisputed, but it is precisely that's what I say ... There is also synonymous companies like RED (and I'm sure other companies are synonymous), the intermediate solutions s.solchen work.
And the fact that we have such a camera for 1,500 EUR or not in your hands is just a confirmation that there is not enough, a Casio to take a little memory stick and should be 3k in perfect quality to produce.
And another question: If the gamer card but the same supply as the graphics cards of the pros ... why buy the pros will not be the cheap graphics cards?
And with the doubling of performance, you should synonymous with regard to the video application again to read, because it is important to increase the CPU performance in existing architectures do not arrive ...
And what do you mean with the cache of 10 sec? In a real-time system, there is no cache? Since rushing 30 or 60 frames / sec, which must be processed immediately. So what should be a buffer because the effect?
Look at real times P2, which, at 100 Mbit / s data stored what was on the storage system is going on ... as long as it is in the camcorder area by 16, 24 or perhaps another 30 Mbit / s is this is all still relatively simple but feasible with increasing demands of the growing degree of difficulty ... As already mentioned, if you have a transparent signal record want, you need 124 capture cards in parallel.
That is exactly what I have already said input ... if you look at the matter with more detail, differences can be found s.allen corners and edges of the difficulties with which the manufacturer would have to deal synonymous.
There was really easy to film ... apparently, despite the
fluctuations in the Emullsionen were and are unlikely to come to grips with "were.
Antwort von iasi:
na - Arri is in digital cameras are not just reverence ...
Arri sells no significant quantities of their digi-cam ...
to the graphics cards:
the same hardware - same GPU, etc. ... just a driver, which features free switches, which use software to profit.
each camera has a cache ... and interfaces for the necessary data rates, there is also synonymous long ...
a 1920x1080p resolution is not a burden for the data compared to the zb 4k-a red one.
what years of the audio-data sets, were, until recently, the video data ... Today, the cheapest computer creates the umkopieren and encoding of audio data.
in videoaplikationen is nothing other than cpu power ... GPUs could still get more if they would make better use ... but otherwise limits the processor performance ...
and if you deal with the matter continues, then there are many cameras, which use existing technology and just all the hurdles have taken ...
that the prices are high is because there is no mass-market products are ...
but now comes the roll ... 5d which makes only the beginning
... and here is the video function of the 5d really only an appendix
Antwort von KrischanDO:
...
Somehow I find a shame the camera manufacturers like Olympus cameras so few sell and a reputation from Auseinseiterkameras have. .... If the service of Olympus still is as to the time when I had my OM2n, the outsiders remain synonymous. Even if the technique suits and the prices to compete, is not a professional move. Because of the large, two of the service (mostly) and agrees with the accessories program covers virtually every need.
If the service at the Sony Nursing Department is like the notebooks, I would stay with Nikon, even though my D700 with Esbit cubes should operate.
Regards
Christian
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Iasi
It remains to clarify where they are, the cameras, of which you say, but it was all so easy and they were there long .... and above all, because where does the RED 4k?.
Hab'ich missed something?
Antwort von iasi:
the red one, there are now 1 year
http://www.red.com/
and it makes 4k
http://www.ikonoskop.com/dii/
1080p at 60fps in RAW format
and then there are some others, but I do not think the fast - a synonymous, which ultimately s.einen sensor depends on a notebook.
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Iasi
I can already see, as we come to any common denominator, because if you "Delivery format" or "FullHD" for a real Resolutionhält, or the number of pixels of a sensor for the effective number of points of detail of an image, we speak different languages. The dignity of each catalog promises believe we would have today no longer a need for improvement ... so far I understand now synonymous your astonishment, that it's not a lot of high-quality cameras s.Markt there.
Climbing up, but slightly lower than the brochure descriptions in the matter, you will very quickly on some issues which will require synonymous here in the forum have been discussed in detail.
In this respect, we let it just stand there ...
.... if you then soon a camera of the super-growth, or at best with the video results CASIO exf1 achieve poste doch mal images.
Then we schau'n again after ...
Antwort von jogol:
@ Iasi
Of the 25% fall 4K the debayering victim. So is the Red one 3K Camera.
Guess why the 5K Epic will have.
Greeting Jogol
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Jogol
I know not where the 25% come but on the basis of a Bayer filter, and depending of the used algorithms (in RED None knows), you're between 30 and 48%. In addition, RED (already to monitor) windowing operates, so anyway for the user only a portion of the chip uses the ...
Therefore the most synonymous reports of users who between 2.3 and 2.6k reports.
If you can advise me, why have the Epic 5k, then rate it first, namely why the RED 4k pretends, but only approx. half makes ... That would make it synonymous with 5k only about half?
No, no, this is slightly too vague to me, here with the catalog around to handle announcements.
Wait, we just from what the Scarlet us for next Thursday to have to pay and we simply synonymous again finds that the manufacturer still a good piece of work in front of him, before we all have a (affordable) and still good Camera in their hands and as long as it then just do the CASIO ...
Antwort von PowerMac:
(...) If you can advise me, why have the Epic 5k, then rate it first, namely why the RED 4k pretends, but only approx. Half makes ... That would make it synonymous with 5k only about half? (...) 2.6K of 4K represents 65% and not 50%.
Antwort von WoWu:
It took for "exactly", but not for "some."
There was not "exactly"!
Antwort von jogol:
@ Wowu
You should not guess.
Greeting Jogol
Antwort von WoWu:
Guess why the 5K Epic will have. Hab'ich there anything wrong read?
Antwort von jogol:
@ wowu
That was @ iasi.
The 25% is in an article in the new Digital Production indicated.
Schöne Grüße Jogol
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Jogol
understand, I can see straight, I got confused with the ... Sorry.
Antwort von motiongroup:
hello-again and I would say that it has long been once again a wonderful platform for debate this issue and how you use them but I unfortunately slowly again Miss some sounds to read between the lines ..
What struck me is the one with the Camdaten RED herumhantiert is undoubtedly very good and does not correspond to what the specs to include other basic s.der often misinformation made.
There are usually particularly in chip size definitions mixed style 35mm film as though it 35mm Motion Picture Film loud and should already know the data-hungry boasting with video enabled DSLR filmmaker is subject to an error.
On the other hand will always be the definition of 2k4k5k approached the well of a precise definition of the subject None of the cams in the digital sector are synonymous of the RED ONE not.
2k does not represent the 1920x1080 of the allegedly Dowkonvertet Redone (great word) but is should be 2048x1536 and the 4K dual Res. of D4, D16 and the Cineon formats no question of ...
It would be for most users it is helpful if there would be a source of the mystery Tech. would explain the story and he can with 4 k real or not has come to play an end.
The fact is the part of a welcome alternative to other manufacturers and represents the market has thrown gewirbelt in price and the leadership and with this new version of the Scarlet and EPIC continue to be.
Antwort von iasi:
@ Iasi
Of the 25% fall 4K the debayering victim. So is the Red one 3K Camera.
Guess why the 5K Epic will have.
Greeting Jogol ... and when the film material on the copy that you see in the movies usually gets less than 2k ...
... the red one is a 4k camera? in reality you can see the footage in any event, the high resolution to - definition or not.
are also hd, FHD, 2k, 4k, etc. rather than orientation fit.
The resolution says anyway is not all:
the quality difference between 720p and Sony of jvc 1080i (HDV) were not as great as the difference between 720 and 1080 suggests.
1080p of the canon 5d mark II would be quite sufficient - even for the closing date on film. only other factors still play with it.
s.13.nov. it will be the new specifications of the scarlet and epic enter - and as the anticipation and perhaps synonymous small warung after all the wild speculations jim writes:
"We listened. We have found ways to do what many dared to dream. I s.sure that some of the requests will not be met. We just can not deliver things that are not possible.
If you are disappointed, we will never satisfy you. If you are blown away, just the future begins. "
let's see what group I belong to.
very large claims, I have not - even the "old scarlet" I had promised.
optik change if it should give me would be right - depending on the connection - but it must not be, if the optics is good.
more resolution and higher frame rates is not needed.
35mm sensor (magnitude) is not necessarily, if the objective far enough aufblendet - 2 / 3 "would be synonymous ok.
otherwise requires, the camera accepts both microphone (XLR), and monitor data and the possibility of a manual exposure setting.
what more could you want?
the high sensitivity of the 5d is the scarlet probably can not offer.
Antwort von Axel:
... and when the film material on the copy that you see in the movies usually gets less than 2k ...
... the red one is a 4k camera? in reality you can see the footage in any event, the high resolution to - definition or not. Yeah. The mystery thriller "Knowing," a Nicolas Cage vehicle, was used exclusively with the Red One rotated.
Here digital movies will work - because of 2k! Here Feature film or film an interview with Echo cinematographer Simon Duggan, in which he points out that with the Red now have more control over quality than is possible with analog film. This is a film that with 50 million budget is certainly no longer under "indie" is ....
Antwort von iasi:
CROSSING THE LINE
Directed by Peter Jackson
The trailer can look at Red or download:
http://www.red.com/shot_on_red
The stills from the film have actually a Resolutionvon 4096 x 1743 pixels.
Interesting synonymous lens tests in the Red-Forum - where the test pictures also show that a discussion whether 4k or 3k now rather academic.
Example: http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1471
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18061
