Frage von Obachecka:
Hello Dear Forum,
Now, I now read through the camcorder-Kaufberatung reading and the models that I have ever come to mind, have rejected, I need your help. The market is too confusing, I rise 'because of.
Why do I need the camera:
Mainly for filming in the gym. The sport is table tennis, it should be added to video games and analysis on technology analysis should be taken somewhat synonymous. That would be a function of how they (the two models that I have "recently" ausgeguckt, but then dismissed it; Xacti 1010 and HMX20C) with a "slow-motion function quite nicely, but doable in the price range probably not.
Importance of the games seems to shoot well as a good "light output", if I have understood it, a high focal be in order to "get as much as possible" into the picture without having to sit too far away of the Playbox. Or at least you should be able Anglemontieren the Wide.
Good film properties, "fast" movements should the HD cameras surely probably have anyway :-)
The "sound" should already be noticeable, however, is not highly important.
An Image Stabilization is not sooo important, because the camera will be available before to 85% only on a tripod.
The storage media ausgeguckt me I had the flash card, but would synonymous against a built-in hard disk I am nothing.
It would be important to me that they can be good and easy to transfer the videos to your PC, but normally synonymous s.TV device can be played.
The camera should, if possible for me to be more robust Grobmotoriker ;-)
And now: what camcorder would be as suitable?
I hope the information rich, that you can recommend me something beautiful. I have no idea of nothing am totally dependent on you.
Would I be very pleased if you Could help me with model proposals ....
Thank you!
Kevin
Antwort von domain:
Then take the JVC HD30. Is inexpensive, bright, and no problem in post processing. But will it not be long, so quick access while stocks still last.
Antwort von tommyb:
"A lot Focal" beudetet 200mm. "Few Focal" means 50mm (; Small).
Has a wide angle lens (focal bit, 50mm) has a telephoto lens (focal much; 200mm).
You did confuse you.
Nevertheless, the current cameras are all very poor wide angle - ergo is a wide angle adapter required. The more expensive - are synonymous, the better and are perhaps even durchzoomen (, ie, the camera can be of) are still completely sharp at full wide angle telephoto.
In this price range, unfortunately, remain almost exclusively AVCHD left for you - this however can only be one with high-performance calculator (some editing; such times thereafter) in the forum search.
What I would recommend for you would be as the SONY HDR HC-9. Which has a slow burning synonymous motion in a much reduced resolution, adopted on HDV can be edited and the wonderfully with mediocre PC. Alternatively, there is the Canon HV30. Price is as light does, however, not much, they both fall out of your budget.
Drum You must provide either one of these cameras used to buy, or alternatively a camera in SD (; recording standard definition, not high definition) or resort but at a AVCHD camcorder.
: edit domain has a good alternative fits within the price range. Since I agree with him.
Antwort von pilskopf:
Forget the slow-motion function of the HC9 in this case. You can hold a maximum of 3 seconds and 12 seconds to worry if that's enough for ne analysis, so I do not know. But you can play the material easily and completely smoothly at half speed, then that's even better I think.
I have the HC9 and they can only recommend next, sound is good and useful, Wide Anglenaja but still better than the HV30. MF lens, I recommend strongly. Through the manual shutter speed you can, of course, clear video to shoot, the light goes in a warehouse for fat.
However, you do not get the cam for 500 ¬.
Antwort von baddimi:
Hi,
EP-Online there is the Canon HF100 the time for 560, - ¬.
A very good AVCHD camcorder, Focal is 42,9 mm, not the best, but pretty good.
With a wide-angle converter example of Raynox HD-5050 Pro 5050 (; about 80 ¬ in price search engines) you can look at the Focal (still shrink, or expand :-)).
The HD recording with 50 frames per second should be synonymous deliver good quality, even after thou hast s.PC slowed.
When playing on Cam, you can make synonymous slow motion playback or even play for Picture Picture.
Greeting
Dimitrij
Antwort von Obachecka:
Hello
Thanks for your answers, has helped me schonmal super!
I like the price because of the so-called models of s.besten you the "JVC GZ-HD30.
I have to, unfortunately, still 's Tripod to buy, and that as a poor student ;-)
Or is the difference really so serious for the HF100 that I still prefer 's should save few months, I honestly did not like :-)
What bothers me a little in the HD30, however, is that the storage media is a hard drive, because I've heard such hard disks quickly go the first "broken".
There may be similar in the flash memory area?
Thank you, super!
Greeting
Kevin
Antwort von Obachecka:
Now it's just blows me away to ....
If I see correctly that the appropriate for the HD30 JVC GL-V0743 wide-angle attachment will cost around 200 ¬?
Or is there cheaper alternatives?
Then immediately the question: Is the HD30 Focal really that bad (; see test synonymous here ...) that you need a wide angle converter?
Thank you.
Greeting
Kevin
Antwort von tommyb:
The JVC can record to memory card AVCHD - HDV, but only on hard drive.
And yes: In case of improper treatment can go broke faster hard drive as an SD Card.
Slashcam had the JVC Incidentally times in the test:
http://www.slashcam.de/artikel/Test/Zwei-Fliegen-with-einer-Klappe---JVC-GZ-HD30-40.html#Einle
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Is the Focal HD30 really so bad ... that you need a wide angle converter? ... This of course depends, what angle you need for your shots, but a "wide angle has" in the strict sense, the HD30 is not at all: their shortest focal is 50mm (; converted to Small or full-frame DSLR) - and that is just times the normal focal. A useful wide-angle effect you have only so s.ungefähr 35mm, but not many others come camcorder synonymous to better values than 40mm at best. As an extra wide-angle converter can be had quickly, very important.
Antwort von pilskopf:
If a Raynox HD5050 fits on it, this WW is recommended. Fare is about ¬ 90. 50mm focal do not go, so I'd shoot for nothing not even begin to be angry just because nothing really fits aurfs Picture, which can be forgotten. The Raynox is a 0.5 x WW, so you will ne 35mm focal, which then goes well. But need to check whether the WW fit on it.
Antwort von Obachecka:
Thanks for your responses.
How can I detect / see if this "Raynox HD5050" fits the HD30? Can you look somewhere?
But it can be synonymous without even add WW, or were then no "fun on it"?
The use of the camcorder, as is said in the main table, where the distance to the object so soooo huge now on is not.
Now I had already seeehr with the HD30 befriended ....
A silly question: Does "any" Tripod for HD30, or more accurately fits the Hama Star 61 on the HD30?
Thank you!
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... How can I detect / see if this "Raynox HD5050" fits the HD30? Can you look somewhere ?...... The compatibility list you can find here:
http://www.raynox.co.jp/english/video/pdf/JVC_GZ_HD40_HD30.pdf
Said in 5050, although there appears not, he strikes me as too extreme to be synonymous for your purpose. One of the usual Converter with 0.66 x or 0.7 x should be enough in cases of doubt, and provides better picture quality.
... But it can be synonymous without even add WW, or were then no "fun on it"? ... If still depends, how much you want to add from what distance. At just 50mm starting focal length, but it comes very early s.The limits.
...... Does "any" Tripod for HD30, or more accurately fits the Hama Star 61st ..?... Tripod screw thread, and are standardized, thus: Fits. However, this is a camera tripod of the lowest category, but the mere fixing of the camera's will suffice. Only one should rotate so better not.
Antwort von pilskopf:
As long as there are no gross distortions, the more wide Angleumso better, always has been and will always remain synonymous. There are no cons with it. As I said, as long as the distortion of the picture is not impaired.
Antwort von baddimi:
So, let's do it step by step:
How can I detect / see if this "Raynox HD5050" fits the HD30? Can you look somewhere? Each Manufacturer has (for his product technical data, excuse me if I tell you something you already) shows, there you will find information on the Focal, [min, max] or [Wide angle (; (minimum zoom) telecommunications sector;; maximum zoom)].
Moreover, if there is one webcam has a filter thread or not. If yes, then you can screw on WW-converter. Here you will find the DIN size for the Thread, such as the HF100 is 37mm in diameter. That is to say (and I hope I am wrong not) that you can unscrew each WW-Converter with 37mm thread diameter turn.
But it can be synonymous without even add WW, or were then no "fun on it"? There are synonymous WW-Converter for ¬ 30, some even say that they are good. If one is looking in the forum, you will find many links to the offers. Watching You should then determine whether the synonymous WWK allows zooming or not. If you want to use it really only playing table tennis, then it is enough perhaps for (; There are Sonygute of WWK for 50 ¬). But you'll probably want to film in their spare time, because you dan so much fun because you need a Zoomfähigen WWK.
Basically, as already mentioned: the smaller the first mm number, the better the more you get into the picture. The WWK's have a multiplier specification as mentioned in the Raynox is "0.5 x", ie you have to multiply the focal with 0.5, for example, 46mm x 0.5 = 23mm, and you'll get even more strictly to the Bird.
Just go to the store and once you look at a few cams. Write your first time out of the Netzt the focal lengths on gucke and how it looks in reality. The Width of a table tennis table, you'd have to roughly estimate, then you can see how far you'd have you put away from the table with the camera to get everything into the picture too.
Now I had already seeehr with the HD30 befriended .... The decision phase is really very difficult, we have many models, each has its pros and cons, they want more and have then synonymous fighting against the budget.
It helps, of course, synonymous as a forum, but such sites as synonymous www.testberichte.de
Here http://www.videoaktiv.de/Table/Test pictures / you can find for example, test to see pictures of various models and how they can make themselves synonymous with lowlight conditions, which for you would be in the Hall of interest.
A silly question: Does "any" Tripod for HD30, or more accurately fits the Hama Star 61 on the HD30? There are no stupid questions, one knows not stop everything:)
Yes, fits any tripod. The thread is standardized and is consistent.
So, now is the breath away, if you still have questions, write.
HP, the Canon HF100, I can really recommend to have recently (with dimmed chandeliers; have filmed so much light) and had had very good quality, and brilliant colors.
Antwort von Obachecka:
Hello
Thanks for your tips and answers.
I just ordered my concern at Saturn before, the tripod and the HD30.
Maybe a little "fast" decision, but the reviews were so synonymous with the camcorder on the net all very positive.
Relate to one WW converter I will again wait to see erstmal, as running the camera so.
I like the tripod especially true because of the altitude well.
Now I still needed a tip:
How can I slow down the recorded videos s.besten s.PC "" to see exactly when, for example, playing table tennis' ner technology analysis to meeting the ball, etc. ..?
Is there 's special program?
Thank you very much!
Antwort von pilskopf:
Can any current editing program. One thing you should do in any case. Among the most can download trial versions.
Antwort von Obachecka:
When the camcorder is probably a editing program included, perhaps this is good ... yes?
To Battery, I have a question: How long does the battery, it is worth a replacement battery?
And even more important, but stupid: Can you recharge the battery during the filming, filming with talk of the camera s.der electrical outlet? 'Ne outlet in the gym, I have always .....
Thanks
Antwort von pilskopf:
At the same load and can shoot the fewest. But in this case, eh su should operate via the Cam river.
Antwort von Obachecka:
Oh sorry, well clear.
So to do this, run the Cam by electricity? Good, then it is so, as I wanted. ;-)
Worthwhile for a spare battery?
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... this is ...?... As everything goes, you can find the manual that s.schnellsten Camera: Are the JVC's website for downloading.
Antwort von pilskopf:
A spare battery is only worthwhile if you travel a lot. But the tests erstmal Cam and decide later whether you need the. Batteries are often very expensive and not worthwhile stop if they are not used anyway. But if so, then you just get a really strong and then holds the synonymous usually without that one must go.
Antwort von Obachecka:
Thank you.
Then I really think it's me well, and the low-Batteries on ebay are good for nothing ...
I will wait until the camera is there. I once hoped that the transit from Austria is quite brisk,'m so impatient ;-)
The latest, then I will torture you with questions about the post :-)
(; is there a tutorial or something with software recommendations?)
Thank you erstmal, super!
Antwort von pilskopf:
So I use Magix Video Deluxe, your down times lad a trial and test simple, very easy, cheap and good.
Antwort von baddimi:
Thank you.
Then I really think it's me well, and the low-Batteries on ebay are good for nothing ...
That's not true, synonymous cheap Batteries are very good example of Akkushop.de
I bought there, original battery in this capacity will cost 180 ¬, then 35 and holds just as long as the original.
Antwort von Obachecka:
The camcorder is now on its way yesterday to me, great.
Has anyone any idea how long the Versnad of Austria to Germany (; near Bremen, Germany) by GLS?
