Frage von derfreed:
Hi,
would like to see a nine MiniDV camcorder purchase.
Priced, I am a little flexible, the 400 euro, but should in no case be exceeded. Tend rather to the price category between 200 - 300 euros.
The camcorder should have in any case:
Image Stabilization
16:9 format
FireWire
Video out
And in any case a synonymous Viewfinder!
As a little extra would be an external microphone port super, but not absolutely mandatory.
A photo function is not required.
Actually, the camera for vacation and family pictures to be. Therefore, I am not too high demands s.die quality, but it is obviously not looking at the hurt (I know it is mostly s.Filmer itself).
So far, I have a Canon with MD? (know the name is not exactly) filmed, about 5-6 years old. Unfortunately, now adopted the FireWire port. As a repair probably is not worthwhile, let me introduce a buy.
Therefore, though the first question:
Batteries are the older generation of Canon devices compatible with the new? Then maybe some would be for the Canon MD235 Canon MD150 or speak.
Can someone say to these devices?
As an alternative, I have the following equipment in sight, but they are all priced in the range between 200 - 400 euros to move:
Panasonic NV-GS230
Panasonic NV-GS330
JVC GR-D 725
SonyDCR HC-62E
And I'm the GS330 a little intense have envisaged. However, it has only a 10x optical zoom, which irritated me a little, because as with other devices with 25-40 times the optical zoom wait.
Also, it would be nice if you sent me a few recommendations you could give.
Thanks and best regards,
Carsten
Antwort von Johannes:
16:9 Format ... ... not too high demands s.die quality, but it is obviously not looking at the hurt (I know it is mostly s.Filmer itself). ... because with with 25-40 times the optical zoom wait.
Why do we need in a family film 16:9? ok no preference. So I commend to you the Panasonic, I myself have only good experience with Panasoniccamcordern of any kind. Find Sony, I personally do not like that much, it seems to me to be carfully Sonydie quantity is more important than the quality of their products (you can see it s.der EX1, Z7 and now the EX3)
JVC I can not judge this league. Take what the Panasonic you have to look yourself what one has and the other does not and what you need them.
Antwort von Jan:
I make it short - High Definition (576i PAL synonymous of how the cameras are of you can) SonyHC 5 for about 499 ¬ Buy!
If it is strictly up to 400 ¬, then the 330th GS
VG
Jan
Antwort von raymaker:
I make it short - High Definition (576i PAL synonymous of how the cameras are of you can) SonyHC 5 for about 499 ¬ Buy!
If it is strictly up to 400 ¬, then the 330th GS
VG
Jan Right. Try ne HD Camera to get standard definition is simply outdated.
Antwort von cebros:
Why do we need in a family film 16:9? The needs of each of the black bars left and right on the 16:9-Television, or, alternatively, squashed or cut faces do not like ...
Antwort von raymaker:
Why do we need in a family film 16:9?
The needs of each of the black bars left and right on the 16:9-Television, or, alternatively, squashed or cut faces do not like ... Right. It is 4:3 simply outdated and should be avoided whenever possible.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Standard definition is simply no longer up to date ... ... It is 4:3 simply outdated and should be avoided ... So it is with SD in 4:3 format are now found only professional productions settled - Family Videos for the living room television to give something with no more satisfied! ;-)
But to return to the original question: The GS330 my recommendation would be synonymous.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Johannes:
... Standard definition is simply no longer up to date ... ... It is 4:3 simply outdated and should be avoided ...
So it is with SD in 4:3 format are now found only professional productions settled - Family Videos for the living room television to give something with no more satisfied! ;-)
But to return to the original question: The GS330 my recommendation would be synonymous.
Gruß Bernd E. That is what I probably synonymous, even though right now as much channel back to SD and 4:3 can be found.
Antwort von Daigoro:
So it is with SD in 4:3 format are now found only professional productions settled So the 16:9 format is quite the only thing that bothers me s.HD.
That was probably the most stupid decision ever.
I've still seen no transmitter, the ne Kadrierung so ordinary and so-how much African-American and Mongolian steppe horsemen private armies film I do not that I have not had the feeling continually lots 0-value mitzufilmen area.
That may geschmackssache or viewing habits, but I really do not know what I start.
And movies are usually 17:9 or 21:9, so there is still 16:9 with bars or loss.
Antwort von raymaker:
... Standard definition is simply no longer up to date ... ... It is 4:3 simply outdated and should be avoided ...
So it is with SD in 4:3 format are now found only professional productions settled - Family Videos for the living room television to give something with no more satisfied! ;-)
But to return to the original question: The GS330 my recommendation would be synonymous.
Gruß Bernd E.
That is what I probably synonymous, even though right now as much channel back to SD and 4:3 can be found. There was never talk of SD.
Source that "many transmitters can be found back to 4:3?
Antwort von derfreed:
Hi,
thank you for your "effusions", helps me in my question but not really next.
Would be nice if your me a few tips you could give. Apart of 16:9 or 4:3 ...
Thanks and regards,
Carsten
Antwort von Jan:
It remains in the GS 330 or the HC 5, where the choice of a Mini in the price level falls.
To your question, yes the new Canon MiniDV models (205, 215, 235 & 255) of the class are still with the Akuureihe BP 2 L 5, NB 2 LH, BP 2 L 13 / L 14 / 24 operation. (From my head wise) would have been the MV 800 (2004) in the camera's were installed, before there was the 5xx series Battery.
Canon is a good moment in the business with its flash memory and hard drive models. For MiniDV models, they are less popular - that show the sales figures and the test reports of the well-known magazines.
Canon is the disappearance of (in the near future) of MiniDV (PAL 576i cameras) benefit. I am ever curious, how many MiniDV models in the spring of 2009 are presented. I think for Canon, Panasonic and Sonymax 2 models, possibly with a Canon HDV model.
And zoom, you make the mistake exactly synonymous to a large number of customers in the digital world - the Pixelwahn - sounds like more then it must be better. No, unfortunately the opposite is the case, smaller pixels (which, unfortunately, the clients compare Resolutiondes sensor but not their size) often result in a poorer image quality, larger zoom and need more time & energy (eg by the movement for the Sharp points) and have of synonymous house a worse picture quality.
One can easily imagine the light as evenly as possible must be through the lenses, the more you use lenses (which you need if you have a larger focal area want), the more spreads the light - is often synonymous Optics lichtschwächer so. Canon had even a 50 mm 1:1 lens produces, so actually an impossibility, ie, the same light which comes purely forward - is the lens group is still to be measured (with minimal variations).
That is, you can improve with high-quality lenses, but sometime you can against the physics not win. Then synonymous clear why many professionals such as in the photo world with fixed focal lengths and zooms moderate work, just so you get the best contrast, sharpness, etc.
Have you not even filmed, and may have noticed that with a 20-30x optical zoom good hard hand-free images are to succeed.
10x is sufficient for the ordinary citizens completely. In the photo world 10x "vacation zoom" verpöhnt completely (it is discouraged them regularly), one of the few exceptions is the Nikkor 18-200 VR.
VG
Jan
Antwort von raymaker:
Canon is a good moment in the business with its flash memory and hard drive models. For MiniDV models, they are less popular - that show the sales figures and the test reports of the well-known magazines.
What? The AGMs are still considered the best consumer miniDV camcorder and sell like hot bread.
Antwort von Jan:
HDV already, but the MiniDV models (the price category to the point here) not quite sure.
VG
Jan
Antwort von kuhea:
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One can easily imagine the light as evenly as possible must be through the lenses, the more you use lenses (which you need if you have a larger focal area want), the more spreads the light - is often synonymous Optics lichtschwächer so. Canon had even a 50 mm 1:1 lens produces, so actually an impossibility, ie, the same light which comes purely forward - is the lens group is still to be measured (with minimal variations).
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Hi Jan
almost everything you write here is ok. I see the same.
However, your description of "light" is not correct.
You confuse intensity with Lichtdurchläsigkeit.
Luminous is the ratio of focal to the maximum aperture.
Has a 50 mm lens light an inner diameter is 50 mm, then it has the luminosity of 1:1. Without if and but ". Mathematically correct!
That is not impossible. From Zeiss was / there's even a lens with
Luminous 1:0,7 (Planar). Why can not the diameter larger than the focal?
In theory (!) 1:0,3535 would even be possible.
True but is synonymous, that such high levels of luminance imensen optical
Effort (many lenses) is required, a 'decent' Picture style. And so Objetiv is very 'thick', difficult and expensive.
And each of these lenses to swallow in light of the fact, depending on the quality and pay more or much less. Thus the advantage of light quickly.
In general, in today's zoom lenses about 1
Aperture value 'Light' by the glass surfaces is lost.
And here and get smart.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lichtst%C3%A4rke_%28Fotografie%29
Greeting Kuhea
Antwort von Jan:
Beautifully written off at Wikipedia ....
I remain still in the process at 1:1 purely theoretically the same light comes out at 1: 2.8 the inverse of F 2,8 to 1 s.Ende of the lens group. And 1 to 1 (1:1) means not only work the smallest aperture (largest opening) of 1 but the light was coming inside the front - is almost 100% backwards s.Sensor & Film. These optics are in principle all the light completely. I know, this is not wiki ....
Yes, clearly one can hardly f 1 with a normal image, as it only s.Aperture Lens 8 and more sharpness has a regular - a kind of blur previously veil.
1:1 optics, you will now find very difficult (Nikon, Pentax, Olympus ....)
Macro Lenses with a scale of 1:1 can be found quite easily.
Naja is synonymous no preference, so very wrong I was with my interpretation. These things you learn in the lesson - and it's been 1993 for me, perhaps I've not 100% correct representation, where, or me bad words.
VG
Jan
Antwort von derfreed:
Hi,
Thanks for your help. I have now for the Panasonic 330 and decided it is already ordered.
Gruß,
Carsten
Antwort von KrischanDO:
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Yes, clearly one can hardly f 1 with a normal image, as it only s.Aperture Lens 8 and more sharpness has a regular - a kind of blur previously veil.
1:1 optics, you will now find very difficult (Nikon, Pentax, Olympus ....)
Macro Lenses with a scale of 1:1 can be found quite easily.
....
VG
Jan Hi Jan,
You throw as magnification, brightness and more confused.
The high-aperture zoom lenses with fixed early opening (eg Nikkore 17-55, 14-28, 28-70, 70-200) are aimed at quality and price and tend to offer professionals already Aperture 4 or 5.6 sharper than the 3 .5 to 4, 5, etc. variants. At 70-200 2.8 VR, you have at f = 4 a quite incredible sharpness ...
"Unsharp veil" are in this category Lens-not in an open aperture, depending on the focal, but minimal depth.
Macro Lenses with
a scale of 1:1 can be found naturally very easy, otherwise it would be difficult, the "macro" or "Micro" to call.
But this is not a matter of intensity but of the extract and the correction (for the short-range).
Regards,
Christian
Antwort von Jan:
I thought the 50 mm f 1.0 (I talk like this since the beginning of the article) - it really only s.Aperture 8, a good consistent sharpness. Many users know this is not Canon Optics eh. Color Still image had long ago times synonymous with the observations.
Micro or Macro (Nikon) 1:1 scale, I had written because I have written previously 1:1, and me with great certainty of a user would have solved that one synonymous with the 1:1 magnification I can. A 1:1 in the photo tray has several meanings.
I do not synonymous terms of contributions, because you give me everything nachblabbert - look a text about yourself - exactly what I had written, the 1:1 Macro Lenses are easy to find. The first user had written synonymous, because you are right, because you're right, that's correct - but everything is wrong what you say and wanted me on the Wiki Page to learn - so Schmarn NEN.
VG
Jan
