Frage von curtis:
Good day,
because of the growing number of our seats and cut the escalating growth s.Material so hard and I would like a new path.
Network and Server solution, which collected the entire video on multiple connections is Raid.
Once the budget is not for going to the studio equipment ranges - who has experience in building such a system from the server cabinet / rack to reliable network components to?
The requirements we have are:
about 5 TB of available memory in the context change in the Raid 1 run. Possibility of at least 8 workstations will be added.
I would gladly synonymous some experience first-hand listen. Certainly there are other young people from agencies that this shift through have been synonymous.
Glad to answer.
Antwort von wolfgang:
I only have experience with smaller networks, where 4 stations have been networked. The solution for me was not drafted, but has become so developed and under. I'm certainly no expert, but the following points:
For a 5 TB NAS probably be noted that
Most s.die cheap NAS solutions rather slow. Griffin then 8-intersection PCs simultaneously on such a system, it can perhaps be closely synonymous times. In any case to a UK Network, but that is probably eh obviously.
b) for 5 TB, I would no longer have to go Raid 1, this is uneconomical because Raid 1 so a 1:1 mirroring means that you be 10 TB of disk capacity would have to install. There are higher Raid variants (5, 10) probably significantly better.
c) it should be synonymous same thoughts about making the backup - what if so then a central NAS times total dies?
It should moreover not even a single solution - you could just set up several stations in Raid 5 systems, construction and those for the network share. Works perfectly, I stop myself here on an older PC a 600 GB Raid 5, on a more modern 1.5 TB Raid 5th Disadvantage is that, as a solution to the respective PCs always have to run with.
Extra points to modern NAS, I would obviously take away - they have all the opportunity for centralized printer controls, and also FTP and sometimes synonymous to the possibility of hosting your own web pages or even their own small forums.
The actual network is relatively simple - a GB switch as a headquarters, to the star all access stations. From there, synonymous connection s.einen router for the Internet, synonymous if not all the stations in the network will be, I guess times.
Solutions could be about something:
http://www.thecus.eu/de/15/
and here is another (corporate) Info:
http://www.netgear.de/Support/Katalog/index.html
If you do not even want to stop you looking a professional. But soo hard is probably not the case.
Antwort von thos-berlin:
I have no experience, but a hint. There must be at least gigabit Ethernet, as the cheap 100 MBit connections practically only 2-3 DV datastreams simultaneously are possible. Thus even the average workstation s.einer already ugly. When Gigabit variant has at least ten-fold.
With a growing Anzahal of workstations will be safe but synonymous with the Gigabit Variant noticeable, but the question is, how many average places her s.Netz want to operate.
If you have a RAID 1, ie, a mirror plate, then I would have two separate devices to think about. Then synonymous in the case of a total failure (ie, not a plate, but other components) will continue.
If you use a device, it would be a synonymous Wheel 5 imaginable. When a disk failure, the system can continue working. Just replace the defective disk and during the course of the operation, the data is reconstructed. (Hat in the Compaq Servers with me to work flawlessly geklappt). For the user there will be any more slowly. The advantage is that you with the same plate number has significantly more space.
Antwort von wolfgang:
Oh yes, these products are here to make a good impression synonymous for a small commercial environment - but that did not have its own experience:
http://www.qnap.de/pro_detail_feature.asp?p_id=85
Antwort von wolfgang:
What struck me as yet about the path is gone - is a U.S. dealer, but the product's probably synonymous with us where:
http://www.videoguys.com/gspeed.html
Antwort von curtis:
Class thank you for your input.
Raid 5, I was of our IT man synonymous to the heart. This friendly man can give me some questions synonymous to help. The implementation is not a problem, I just wish the system of advance s.sich think through very clearly, so that we then only once you can work in peace.
Gigabit Network will probably be because the entire office only has 100Mbit cabling.
The following considerations are now turning more to the project bin and Workflow
It will probably change a lot with a network. Currently, the project files are often locally on the workstations, there are several boards on which the material from specific / DVD Master and / or similar subject. There are numbered plates work in changing the context in which the projects are complete.
After head of savings side path, I was once thought to be as it is the projects be organized so that you can quickly recover without the video material on the plates for you. This is a meticulous data storage and, if necessary with batches of Maz. Honestly: in the chaos of the project business rush hours and night with many, I have not so far been done. The fact that in many projects such as image data material from specific animations / foreign material of the client side or other things to find is a 100% data storage diffiziele a thing or at least very time consuming.
I was still a few months ago einfahc only cutter with my WAS at home, now I have the whole coordination and it is often quite trivial such challenges. So s.ganz naive in the round asked: How is it going on?
We currently have 4 fixed and 2 Movile workstations, a data volume average of 2-4 TB per month and work on Sony Vegas, Avid Media Composer / After Effects / C4D. The plates are all simple SATA disks (Raid Edition Western Digital) and will demand of workstation to workstation towed once a week and completely secured. Cumbersome, a lot of sorting work (dubbing does not really always) s.sich addition, Windows does not really go with frequent plate clear.
For the network solution:
In addition, I have a network drive for material from specific want, so it would be finally sorted centrally. The Netzwerkabreitsplatten would probably change quite often - as is the setup with Raid / dissolve. Can the raid as a kind of collaborations profile - the plates assigned - secure? What opportunities are there vll. software to manage small to keep working?
How much is a GB network with higher data rate than DV cope? Uncompressed SD / HD?
I'm still pleased with rain Erfahrungsautausch. Yours sincerely,
curt
Antwort von Markus:
Currently, the project files are often locally on the workstations, there are several boards on which the material from specific / DVD Master and / or similar subject. There are numbered plates work in changing the context in which the projects are complete. Hello Phil,
it would obviously make no sense, just all the data on the new server to transfer and thus may be many different versions of the project to gather. At the beginning there will be some work, the chaos in the years to come, but this initial "inventory" is needed to create a new workflow and orderly market.
Firstly, I would all projects carried out so that no more old versions remain. And then there's no confusion later when someone accesses it in order to continue working.
Next, I would ensure that all projects are synonymous with the original recordings still exist in full and I would with an example, the test batch capturing. Not that there is an unforeseen problem because the workflow is theoretically should work in practice, but his service is denied. In such a case I would gecapturte the O-course material is not clear.
If the batch capture, however, error-free work and the projects would need to be fully restored to their original, then you can get all the raw data of the hard disks and delete them pursuant to the server to be transferred amount of data (and thus synonymous to the time required for this action) significantly reduced. Current projects s.denen still working, of course, remain intact, since no material is deleted.
The fact that in many projects such as image data material from specific animations / foreign material of the client side or other things to find is a 100% data storage diffiziele a thing or at least very time consuming. [...] How is it going on? From Chaos to a meaningful project organization to launch the first instance an expensive thing. But once a system for the workflow, file storage and the archive has become established, it is much easier to keep the overview, current versions can be found, or any old stuff from the archive to retrieve.
In my case, forgive me for every job a project number, which allows an unambiguous assignment and synonymous with parallel work permits no confusion. Should time a file is lost (for example, in a program because the location was not adjusted), it is still easy to find and assign the right project. Worked a total of three different computers, each PC has its own individual focus. In this way is always to understand what is stored where.
We currently have 4 fixed and 2 Movile workstations, a data volume average of 2-4 TB per month ... I seriously wonder if your with a simple 100-megabit network will be happy if
everything (the raw material on which multiple users access) through the eye of a needle needs? Since it is sufficient, a simple aperture between two scenes and are already of a square of two DV streams called ...
Antwort von eXp:
I seriously wonder if your with a simple 100-megabit network will be happy Never, perhaps for office applications, Internet, Office and something, not for multimedia.
've Worked in an advertising agency, the times were not many jobs and the 100-Mbit network already turned s.Wheel when two people a pile of RAW files durchackerten.
Gigabit LAN is required in any case. What are the server, steam, steam, steam until aside and seriously memory pure. RAID is mandatory in order to minimize access times.
A network solution with releases: finger away, something bad is to administer, secure and beyond - because everyone always Calculator - synonymous not exactly cheap.
Antwort von jmarugg:
Also not bad, the NAS of Infrant and now Netgear's.
http://www.infrant.com/products/products_details.php?name=ReadyNAS% 20NVPlus
Antwort von curtis:
100Mbit Lan is here in all offices, that is the existing infrastructure. Next up s.dass I have noticed it in any case will GigaBit.
My IT technician told me today that he had problems with multiple accesses to the NAS provides housing, because they are not with the corresponding protocols / etc equipped for such data to cope with floods.
Who has such practical solutions already in use? And HD / uncompressed material? What is there with the throughput rates of these NAS enclosures?
@ Markus:
The archiving of projects beautiful and good. As an additional backup to the tapes all the material on the plates to find no solution so bad now. A Dv CAM tape was not rewound, lying stored and a little luck and synonymous tape may be faulty.
I am looking for but rather a software for archiving, at best, a catalog of all tapes containing Harddisks indexing and offline browsing is easy and the handling is.
By the times so well that we have in this way re-read after I'm already assumed that you have changed the industry.
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Antwort von Markus:
Next up s.dass I have noticed it in any case will GigaBit. It seems I had read about.
As an additional backup to the tapes all the material on the plates to find no solution so bad now. I know your work environment. If an existing project "just" quickly needs to be reworked, then the archiving on hard drive very interesting. This saves you all the box office-and mapping times, when off-line projects.
I am looking for but rather a software for archiving, at best, a catalog of all tapes containing Harddisks indexing and offline browsing is easy and the handling is. I have had times in the past, a database in MS Access programming, based on my needs was cut. Because to me but was too expensive (it must be something so synonymous continuously maintain), I now only have a Word document with an overview of the archive contents. Short-term intermediate storage are even only with a post-it on the hard drive listed.
If it is interesting variety of media assigned to a project, would be perhaps a database required? Can someone with you to program such a thing? The mere handling, however, is sooo not a big thing and with a brief introduction should be manageable. It remains then the only thing left (!) The care ...
By the times so well that we have in this way re-read after I'm already assumed that you have changed the industry. Do not believe all the gossip from your contractor. We have a disagreement and I know how others on Nichtanwesende is blasphemed. ;-)
