Frage von Petrus:
Hello amateur filmmaker,
I'm looking for a real fluid Eiger - not one that can only be described - in the price range up to approximately 150 euros. The connection should stand 3 / 8 "to be.
Please, no Manfrotto-Neiger. Eiger The video camcorder must be up to 2 n.Eigengesicht suitable.
Gruß Peter
Antwort von Jan:
In the price category, you can count themselves lucky, to convey a fluid head to get. Will not be easy. Well I do anyway NEN times last link to our fluid Discussion:
fluid-looking head-light-compact-real-fluid VG
Jan
Antwort von Gast.:
Hi Peter,
did some time ago in a film magazine positive about the video Eiger "Velbon HP-268R" read. This head is a real fluid Eiger and surpasses the panning and tilting the video heads Manfrotto 501 and 503 are significant. The only drawback - if ever - the 286R has no weight compensation. The price is supposed to amount to 152 euros and the company is about: Brigitte fat, 73614 Village Miedelsbach Already, Lenaustr. 3 to relate.
www.fett-video.de
This offer I believe, will certainly be your wishes come very close.
Gruß Dominik
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... price ... 152 Euros ... Company ... fett-video ... If you are not in a hurry then you believe your eyes open on ebay: Only a few weeks ago ended in an auction for such a (used) head after three bids at EUR 9.50 ...
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Jan:
Well I know the 268er not, he is about 1 / 3 heavier than the more of me criticizing PH 368, DV 7000th But he looks forward to the GP 368 in terms of value / basic design & look very similar.
Manfrotto 501 & 503 HDV, there are at least of the optical Page & höherklassiger the basic data. The PH 368, in my view has no chance against the Manfrottos, one should of course all 3 people know from their own experience.
Advertising must be ok ....
VG
Jan
Antwort von Gast.:
[quote = "Jan"] Well I know the 268er not, he is about 1 / 3 heavier than the more of me criticizing PH 368, DV 7000th But he looks forward to the GP 368 in terms of value / basic design & look very similar.
What you do not personally know you should not synonymous
SSESSMENT want. Manfrotto 501 and 503 can Velbon the HP-268R (for pan and tilt features) is not water rich.
APPEARANCE Alone of her, I can not judge a product.
Compare first
and then
test it and report objectively.
At the 268R was not a plastic used as for Manfrotto. Therefore, it is synonymous heavier than der368 and also have both video Eiger is not comparable.
Antwort von Jan Merlin:
So here I share the opinion of Jan!
Have a long with the PH-368 Velbon of work, which is not bad! But, as my experience, with a 2 Kg often overwhelmed Camera!
That the 268 now so much better to be, I can not make ...
Where do you (guest) Manfrotto heads are plastic off? That is, everything from aluminum?
So I got with me because I am not happy with the Velbon was the 503HDV bought it immediately and have learned to appreciate! Bin Maassen zufriden about it! Have previously synonymous to the old 501 and 503 tested, but the 503HDV was in my eyes the best.
However, it exceeds your price range or slightly ...
Antwort von Gast.:
So here I share the opinion of Jan!
Have a long with the PH-368 Velbon of work, which is not bad! But, as my experience, with a 2 Kg often overwhelmed Camera!
That the 268 now so much better to be, I can not make ... To prevent misunderstandings, I would like to clarify.
The video Eiger "Velbon PH-268" with Vel-Flo 10 system, was approximately 1999 of the company "ERNO offered. This company has gone out, or does not do any video Eiger Tripods and more. Currently, he is probably the company offered FAT. But it is the same video Eiger.
Video-Neiger Velbon PH-368 is a totally different model than Verbon PH-268 and are not comparable. ERNO provided below to: New 2-way video-Neiger with Vel-Flo 10 system, which is absolutely smooth and quiet pan provides, and a sudden overturning of the video-camera to the front or rear prevented. Two additional Arretierschrauben s.Neiger allow continuous adjustment of the horizontal and vertical direction of the swing, which in any shooting situation a clean camera work is. The new quick release camera plate is s.der video camera and can be tightened by fast control lever quickly and securely attached to the video Neiger fasten. The handle can either right-or left s.Neiger be installed on request for two-hand operation, a second hand available. Handle: 43 cm long, weighing 1035 g.
Vollmetallausführung with spirit level for cameras up to 2 kg. Tripod connection 3 / 8 ".
This video Eiger is not identical with the current Velbon PH-368. Both the price of as synonymous of quality.
Antwort von dash snow:
yes, is so good! sell you the parts or what?
Antwort von Ga:
Read learn and then come back !!!!!!!!!!!!
Antwort von Jan:
Ok, a battle?
Where is the adjustable Friktionseinstellung during 268er (503 HDV)?
Where is the balance when 268er (501 & 503)?
Can a longer plate to use when 268er Front Camera & Hecklastige better balance?
At 501 & 503 can be synonymous without the problems of the handle right to left change.
When Manfrottkopf (700, 701 501 or 503 etc) is in contrast to 268 (eg handle) nothing with plastic, but stainless steel with various metal alloys. I think you should first inform.
And what should the standard only because the statement 268er now installed more metal than the 368er, so you can swing suddenly better?
The grip is the same as when 368er cheap, cheap as the plate as the 368er (na where is the plate of metal at the 268er?) Etc. etc.
Somehow the idea of coming here, you have not never had a Manfrotto 501 & 503 used, and are in any way with the company of fat involved.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Jan Merlin:
Point.
Antwort von Jan:
Here again, an experience report of a user with the two heads has good experience.
info/Tripod-fuer-leichte-Camcorders---Entscheidungshilfe Ich hab synonymous nie gesagt, daß der 268er komplett schlecht ist. Aber wenn man so blöd of der Page angemacht wird, ohne den Konkurrenten Manfrotto zu kennen (and den schlecht macht) - das ist synonymous nicht fair.
Ich filme(te) with Velbon PH 368, MF 700, 701, 501, 503, 501 HDV and 503 HDV - hab synonymous keine engstirnige Firmenvorliebe.
Hier ein paar Bilder & Daten vom 503er HDV , was ich with Wertigkeit meine (zumindest in der Preisklasse)
503 HDV VG
Jan
Antwort von Friedolin:
Faith can move mountains. It was already mentioned, and then only free report. Moreover, it was only behauptert that swivel and tilt features smoother (no bucking) run as the 501 and 503rd Incidentally, I'm standing on Sachtler and everything else can be stolen from me to stay.
Greeting Friedolin
Antwort von Jan:
That's right, I have very synonymous carefully worded my first post.
Ok, I have the 268er never had in his hand - that is correct.
But I know from my time seller halt a good 10 fluid heads, when I often had several shooting tested. So I can have a better assessment of who what where & Optics / Engineering / can & probably will be able to, so many users of only a head in his life he has used.
Our guest has unfortunately completely foolish - so his ignorance admitted that the Manfrotto 501 & 503 is equipped with plastic, however, he is made of stainless steel with various alloys, even the plate is from the same material. To him is almost nothing made of plastic to be found. On the other hand, some parts of the 268 still plastic. That is certainly not.
I come with the 501er good deal, yes I know he has only a single Teflonfriktion, even adjustable Fluidfriktion of 503 has been theoretically obtained.
Sure it was just about the price range, Sachtler is a different league.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Roloff:
Even clear and who are interested but it must das ANY filmmaker even know what s.besten for his equipment is suitable. One drives the other drives a bike car, presumably so that both are happy. What do they actually achieve brand fetishists.
Jan:
The self-adjustable Fluidfriktion of 503 has been theoretically obtained. On the other hand, some parts of the 268 still plastic. That is certainly not.
Yes, but just theoretdisch and certainly not practical. Slowly, I wonder how this film relates his wisdom. I would like the object in question (268) times to buy. Then I can report objectively synonymous and must icht my nightly nightmares play here. Whether Jan ever a real head of a leading manufacturer of hand had. Probably not, otherwise he would not write such. The BETTER GUTEN is always the enemy.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... ... What do they want to reach that mark fetishists ... The apparently slow sales this Velbon head a little boost? ;-) I even imposes itself on the idea that even the original question has been asked only to those to the attention of the head, so exactly like the description on these exotic suits. And so the style of some 268-supporter resembles synonymous probably not of chance, no preference under what name they just write here ...
Nevertheless, it may well be that the 268 is a useful head (no idea, my experience is limited so far to Hama, Cullmann, Slik, Gitzo, Manfrotto, Vinten, Sachtler and Secced), but then, he has such a failure but synonymous PR does not deserve, right?
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Petrus:
Please, stop discussion!
I have the original video Eiger Velbon PH-268 Vel-Flo 10 and not the Velbon PH-268R purchased. Where does not matter. It corresponds to my wishes and full performances.
Greeting
Petrus
Antwort von Jan:
@ Roloff - you may like to visit me - I am the seller - as most of you know. I did so in the shop, and chatterbox not so stupid with these heads without having to work - as our guest - the Manfrotto heads never had in his hand. I have a few Velbon Tripods at work, just as a few heads - so I already know of where I am talking about, and the different models can differ - I have no problem synonymous with Velbon - too often I have the DV 7000 praised here -- because there is nothing better for me for ¬ 100 there.
But you should synonymous know about the class, and certainly not talk about it, without each with a similar header to have worked (message 501 is made of plastic is completely absurd).
Yes, you can clear goods at the equivalent of different opinions.
501 vs. 503 with Teflonfriktion with multi Fluidfriktion - confirm that a large number of experienced filmmakers in all forums - I'm not alone with my thoughts. Nevertheless, I work with like the 501 or the 501 HDV (for me at work) together.
There are several Slashcam übrigends pictures of me (one with a DV 7000 and with 501er head) because the evidence already that I really used their heads.
I do not here Manfrotto PR - Sachtler heads are better at length, but in the price category, they are definitely good ...
But the Velbon 268er PR is definitely an advertisement for the shop.
And again, I have never claimed that the 268er a bad head.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Gastler:
Some might but as a soothsayer to earn money, read some so-called contribution.
Antwort von Jan:
I do not now what to do with fortune-teller has.
A recognized Slashcamuser had reported that the 268er is not comparable with the 503er. He has two heads on a number of years tested. How wrong I was not.
The 503er head does not generate the top bucking & Endruckeln of 501, which was described of several user - so it is not theoretical but practical.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Markus:
Some might but as a soothsayer to earn money, read some so-called contribution. That is just in a forum such as this, where each x-arbitrary visitors and "Gone Troller" can write. Contributions of "Anonymous" must sometimes ignore you, but it is synonymous for so many registered users.
Ultimately, everyone asked, his common sense, in order to form an opinion on - and not about to let PICTURES! ;-)
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