Frage von zueriman:
I have two new JVC-Cam (-sisters; tested in parallel GY-GY-HM100 and HM700). This is my report:
1.) Tolles camera concept, especially synonymous thanks to the fact that the small HM100 same operating concept and vision, as has the large HM700.
2.) Both cameras produce good images at all resolutions.
3.) Amazing: The small and very cheap HM100 delivers high contrast and sharper images than the big HM700. This may be with the mitglieferten Optics of HM700 (; related Fujinon 16x), which probably is more of a ploy to keep the total price of the camera too far. Who wants to work professionally, it should (the other available Lenses, Canon Fujinon or check). The supplied 16x Fujinon may be good for SD cameras, for HD it is (weak, strong chromatic aberration, sluggish picture drawing).
4.) That one with two cameras in Quicktime and can record in MP4 format beeinducken may at first glance. For producers, which brings rework your material but on a Windows PC, nothing at all. The Quicktime format is used that is not PC compatible! Neither the original Quicktime Player, or Adobe Premiere (;) may CS3 and CS4 with the mov files, which records the camera, do something. The Quicktime option is therefore only for Mac users of meaning. Windows users must be restricted to the MP4 format, but this is not next bad, because the quality is identical. The small HM100 records in MP4 format on the cheap SD cards, the HM700, this is not possible for some reason. Here can be recorded only on the schweineteuren SxS cards, which exclusively with an optional docked SxS card reader is possible.
5.) The most negative point in both cameras: the low-light performance. While still halfway lowlight HM700-ready "is that is virtually HM100" dämmerblind "and roughly corresponds to the Lowlightleistungen of cheap consumer cameras from the early nineties-years!
CONCLUSION: Who can do without good lowlight performance, is well served with two cameras. The big HM700 is only for Mac users really recommended. The HM100, however, is small (; exception of the miserable lowlight performance) fully recommended!
Hopefully, that JVC teaches in a firmware update of the great HM700 yet, MP4 files recorded on SD cards.
Antwort von newsart:
Hello, I have to point 4 researched. The 700 is synonymous MP4 record on SD cards if the SxS Andockrekorder mounted. Because that is enabled by a kind of "dongle" function. This has probably to do with licensing rights. A hamburger Systemhaus has already cracked approval to join, similar to its launch of DV - In functions in previous DV cameras. For more information on request.
Antwort von ed-media:
How do I know this has to do with the licenses, with flanged recorder
You can then contact synonymous MP4. The format is grayed out, so look
I practically that the example can be modified via a firmware.
The disadvantage I find that does not modify the setting of the battery voltage
may be, that is, the camera already warns of half-full battery.
According to JVC, the camera is in playback via firewire output in 19 Mbs
HDV, I've tested it, works only in SD and not HD.
HD is the camera only in the host operating out via Firewire interface.
In Vimeo.com synonymous, there is some test footage of the HM700.
Antwort von zueriman:
On the subject of "MP4 on the internal SD card write". I have also heard that it is possible to write data to the MP4-SD cards, if an external drive (; is docked SxS card reader or hard disk). I do find it quite annoying and not customer friendly, if you need to purchase accessories that you really need not. In addition, this will unnecessarily increase the total weight of the camera. Not exactly convenient if you use the camera for reportage missions, in which each additional gram is annoying.
If this is really connected with the Linzenzproblematik, why is this recording of MP4 on SD cards with the small lot cheaper HM100 allowed?? And quite a breaking news story relating to:
Apparently there are now links, which may MP4 recording to SD cards in the HM700 means of an interference with soldering irons unlock. We are concerned, however, that will void the warranty of JVC. A firmware modification of JVC, which is technically possible, would be really useful.
On the subject of HDV via Firewire: I also found that HDV is issued only in the recording operation. In general, the Firewire playout is only useful when recording the signal on a docked Firewire hard disk. Only then s.Schluss lies before each clip as a separate file. Or do you want to separate in the post-production, as in the analog age, scene by scene tedious manual?? Here, too, would help a firmware update so that could be synonymous played during playback via Firewire, and in a way that each scene is written as a separate file (; in HDV and DV).
Antwort von ed-media:
The latter is supposed to go, according to JVC, which itself is not likely to know as precisely what their camera can do. Play out via HD-SDI is indeed one synonymous
Possibility.
In addition, one option would be a CF-Recorder takes up to 4:2:2,
how to infect NanoFlash, interesting for many - or the same as in
AJA in ProRes422 record to external solution.
What I was able to bring experience synonymous in that after a SxS drive was attached, the camera was released, synonymous
when it was later removed during operation. I was
synonymous reported by JVC.
On the subject Lowlight a look at the final
http://vimeo.com/5478607
Antwort von zueriman:
Lowlight problem of HM100: Diesr clip says it all. No Comparison to SonyEX3, which accrues on such Lichtverhätnissen to top form. Got questions? ;-)
Sorry for the blurry pictures test, but the poor quality of lowlight the camera I was so shocked that I no longer felt like unpacking the tripod. Lowlight Clip:
Antwort von zueriman:
Just to clarify it: I have no brand preferences.
I am currently just looking for the best HDTV-Cam with memory cards, which will cost a maximum of 10,000 euros. So far I have two JVC (cameras, HM100 and HM700), and tested the SonyEX3. At the moment when I realized SonyEX3 has to be ahead. Main reasons:
- The Lowlightqualität is breathtaking
- The chromatic aberration in the EX3 is barely visible because it is apparently digitally subtracted during the recording.
- The camera is in opposite to the JVC-HM700 an optical Image Stabilization and Auto Focus.
- The EX3 is handy, although the JVC-700 with its shoulder approach is more ergonomic than the half-shoulder approach EX3. In the EX3 with a shoulder so it can stand to be made competitive, however.
At the Sony EX3 actually speaks only the proprietary SxS card system, which requires sauteur SxS cards. Since the SD-card solution of JVC has been brilliant!
Perhaps someone even gave me a tip, what else would a camera still in question.
Antwort von klaas:
What is with Panasonic P2 camcorders?
We are now synonymous in the search, here is primarily to improve the resolution of 1920x1080 (; s.besten with 24/25p) as we (of our currently in use HDV camcorders, want to come SonyZ1e) away.
The SD concept synonymous pleases me very well and because we prefer Final Cut Pro workflow, this seems indeed a reasonable way.
An AVCHD format is currently not in question, incidentally.
Regards,
Klaas
Antwort von newsart:
If, on account of the EX3 SxS cards s.den fails: Since there are now really perfectly functioning SD adapter ...
Antwort von NEEL:
Lowlight problem of HM100: Diesr clip says it all. No Comparison to SonyEX3, which accrues on such Lichtverhätnissen to top form. Got questions? ;-)
Sorry for the blurry pictures test, but the poor quality of lowlight the camera I was so shocked that I no longer felt like unpacking the tripod.
Lowlight Clip:
Zueriman Hello, I am synonymous consider whether it should become a EX1 or HM100. In reading the American forums I noticed that there are some few, who are vehemently complaining about the poor Lowlighteigenschaft and many others, or at least deny that the perspective. In fact, your example is crass. The thought came to me as if there might be some mistake in the series spread that in some HM 100's may be the signal processing is defective?
Here is the Vimeo-Lowlightvideo, which in my eyes not look so bad: http://www.vimeo.com/4419535
Antwort von zueriman:
As promised here the lowlight test clips of the "JVC GY-HM100" and the "SonyPMW-EX3. I think this leaves no questions open Comparison terms Leistnungen lowlight:
The SonyEX3 the JVC Camera can look very old. By the way: The lowlight performance of the big sister of the HM100, HM700 to be only marginally better. I think that overlooks Sonyklar has to do with the fact that plug into the 1/2-inch chips EX3, whereas the HM700 only 1/3-inch and HM100 have installed only 1 / 4 inch. There are obviously physical limits at the moment!
Conclusion of Tesclips:
- The Sony EX3 brings synonymous (without Gainverstärkung; 0db) excellent lowlight resultative. It produces massive brighter and brighter images than the HM100 with +9 dB gain!
- If you are still in the EX3 gain, the noise is less massive than the pumped up HM100.
Observed when the clips especially the s.Anfang Comparison of the Interior and the Garden s.Schluss? Got questions? I do not think :-).
Here are the test clips. The first clip shows the whole row (in HD quality, HD-bottom press and) go to fullscreen. The second clip shows the Comparison simultaneously in one window. Here the difference is particularly obvious.
First clip = Clipserie in HD:
Second clip = multicam view:
WARNING: The clips are in None manner subsequently manipulated. I have taken them as they came out of the camera!
Antwort von NEEL:
Today I talked with a dealer, who confirmed that he had to return quite a HM 100, because the lowlight properties were clearly bad (; in Comparison to the other HM 100s). As I said, there are certainly people who see the HM 100 on the Lowlightlevel the XHA1 (; and here the Lowlightverhalten IMHO is OK):
http://www.vimeo.com/4829569
This should probably be easy to try several cams. The EX1 weighs 2.4 pounds and is synonymous already the problem. For Corporate, Wedding Film Short Film and like it go, yes, because it already takes up a lot of Tripod. For Reisedokfilme is fierce.
Antwort von domain:
Today I talked with a dealer, who confirmed that he had to return quite a HM 100, because the lowlight properties were clearly bad (; in Comparison to the other HM 100s).
So a series of such scattering is not excluded, but very unlikely. Dealers often give way if the customer wants a good customer and is gleichzeititg annoying, he was indeed not lose.
The HM 100 is very interesting, if synonymous Lowlightfähigkeit in Comparison to the EX1, of course, below average, but what we have seen so far so good, is insufficient ..
This camera is the way forward for advanced amateurs. However, I think that will release Sonyals licensor for the EX format and simultaneous masters of miniaturization and pretty soon that same but with min. 1 / 3 "sensors, and even less at the same weight, XLR and full manual control including gamma and knee would, however, mandatory.
Let's see whether Sonywirklich posted so that significant innovations are to be expected. At the moment it certainly looks as if JVC has taken with the above-average flood s.neuen camcorders, the head of the innovation.
Antwort von ed-media:
JVC has now asked for a small microcontroller HM100 synonymous site the web
http://pro.jvc.com/pro/hm100/index.jsp Vimeo s.Footage in some, for example, and download to HD-TV via
Media Player Watch.
Antwort von Lutz Dieckmann:
Hi,
So I have with the HM700 and the EX1 my tutorials of the two new DVDs rotated and am very happy with both cameras. They provide a good picture and one can well deal with it.
They follow a different approach. As a handheld, the other as a shoulder mounted camcorder. That would take the first decision clear.
Lowlight was concerned, I do not understand quite. Why not simply make light? I always do and hit me with this problem around at all. Did simply not want to.
The one Halbzollchip is better in lowlight than one third inch chip that's only logical. And the better optics is better than a worse synonymous. Screwed once on a HM700 a ¬ 15.000, - Optics and you go through the eye.
So far I can not understand the test entirely, although I think it's great when someone makes the effort. One should not compare apples with pears.
Regards
Lutz
Antwort von smenone:
Hi,
Since about 3 years, I turn on a HDW750 PC with a 6.3-101mm optics inc Ext Regarding the HDCAM material I think I'm probably a bit spoiled. I have the problem that the mill I do not want to take with on holiday, as it is too difficult and too expensive, that does not make the holidays more to what he is. So I am looking for a year to replace the 750 "Urlaubsmäßig" too. I began to test s.The EX1, the EX3 and ... sorry I can not work with this system, certainly the 1 / 2 inch chip should bring a smaller depth of field with itself, tested with an open aperture, I had not really felt like a small Tiefschärfe. AutoFocus? Why? With a camera, the new costs 70000 Euro, there is no autofocus, good thing, there is "NO" due to Auto Focus. The 1 / 3 inch chips with a 16x Optics HM700 revealed a small depth of field, the handling of Optics, as usual, professional manner. I can with 1 / 2 and 2 / 3 inch optics to work, have the same V-Mount battery adapter like the 750 and the mill fit on the same camera as the big slide, what I want more. All that I can not see where EX3 system. The Picture of HM700 have been tested in Shake and I must say what I want more, until the color grading abwinken, quite rare artifacts. The Picture of 700HM it can (and after gamma correction in the menu at any time) record with the EX3. Low Light? With a mill turning at the light when I have none, I make me a nice day. Does everything for over 20 years.
Regards
Jurgen
