Frage von Steph.blake:
Hello,
I really need help. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong?
I try my Microphone s.meinen Calculator adapter and it works just does not work.
The Micro is an XLR to TRS cable, I am synonymous with a small jack adapter have that I am into the microphone jack from the calculator had inserted. Even as the settings, activate recording in the properties for the volume, etc. I have performed. Yet I get no sound.
Please help.
Could it be that with this Microphone (Shure Beta 58A, live Microphone) can not work?
Thanks for any reply.
Antwort von beiti:
Because it is a dynamic microphone that is no power supply needed, it should in principle work. Could be that the level is quite low (depending on how the input is designed), and at worst it is a stereo jack and you'll get the sound to the left (same problem as s.vielen camcorders), but somewhere something should be heard .
Do you have another Micro, with the input which you can test the sound card?
Can you find the Microphone or elsewhere plug to Micro / cable / plug adapter to test?
Antwort von Steph.blake:
Unfortunately, I have no other Micro here that I could debug synonymous and no other way, the times to test. Synonymous anyway I have only one wireless microphone that I am in this situation, probably nothing would help.
There is absolutely nothing to listen to my music and program, the micro level for the non-synonymous.
The cable with the adapter, I have today in a music shop and bought both synonymous should work.
Antwort von beiti:
Hmm. Suppose that the Microphone is technically okay, the mini-jack adapter is seated properly and in the correct jack on the sound card, it can really only one driver or software problem.
Is there s.Computer only one microphone input, or perhaps another? (Some PC case have, for example, a front socket, the inside is not. On the other hand, the socket on the rear housing, which depends directly s.Mainboard always work.)
Is the sound card in the Control Panel properly recognized and no driver problems appear?
(Start Menu> Settings> Control Panel> System> Hardware> Device Manager> Audio - Video - Game and Cntroller)
Is the sound card as default device for sound recording and recognized?
(Start Menu> Settings> Control Panel> Sounds and Audio Devices> Audio> Sound Recording)
Is there music in your program somewhere synonymous nor a menu to select an audio device? Is there possibly something else set?
Do you have the volume control under "Recording" all sources durchprobiert? It is possible that the Microphone input is not properly labeled.
If you have no other Microphone trying to do, take a simple Headphones (eg MP3-Player/Walkman); can be synonymous to the contrary to its determination as Microphone use (although not with good sound quality, but this is just about trying ).
Even your wireless microphone you can connect as a micro-test, if the times fit.
Where you stuck because the wireless microphone normally? On your camcorder? If so, try it your new Shure there.
Antwort von Steph.blake:
Hi,
So, I have found the problem. It's either the little Jack, who looks somewhat synonymous different than those normally found in this socket, or it is the entire cable. I can unfortunately not be determined.
Does the small jack plugs synonymous differences? If yes, then I do not know the seller and from the music store are not synonymous.
Thank you for your help.
Antwort von beiti:
Have you solved the problem now or not?
Just because the times a little different, it must not be the cause of the error. If he fits into the socket, it can not be wrong.
There are some 3.5-mm plug only in 2 versions: mono (2 pole) or stereo (3polig). What you need here, I can lack knowledge of the sound card does not say. This explains not but eh, why you get no sound.
Antwort von Gabriel-Sancezz:
Hi,
I have now a very cheap micro of my nephews brought and it works.
So it can only s.Kabel or s.Male lie. The Shure-Micro, I am quite sure that it works, because I had it yesterday in use.
Antwort von beiti:
Aha, what is evil because the cables?
On Microphone-end has an XLR 3polige clutch, that is clear. But is s.anderen end directly to the small jack off, or if there is a large 6.3-mm jack that you then via adapter to 3.5 mm jack did shrink?
If the latter is true: how many poles has the great times, and how many poles, the adapter?
Antwort von Gabriel-Sancezz:
So s.Ende the XLR cable is first of a large jack-times with one pole I think. That means if Pol, a black ring about means. Little Jack has only synonymous but as I have seen, these are it should be or?
Antwort von beiti:
The black ring is the insulation between the poles. ;)
With "Poland" says one "electrical contacts." A jack has either 2 (for mono) or 3 (for stereo or mono balanced).
Look here: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klinkenstecker
zum Bild If you have 1 each black ring, you have times per adapter and 2 poles and are thus mono (in the figure below). That would have been operating, at worst, you have only sound on the left channel, if the jack for stereo plug is designed. But to remain silent should not be input.
(The figure shows 6.3 mm stereo jack. The 3.5-mm version is very similar.)
Antwort von Gabriel-Sancezz:
Ok, I understand. Then I have only two poles, but it still does not work with my Micro.
Oh yeah, I forgot my Micro with my nephew synonymous tested. For him it does not synonymous. It can only somehow s.Kabel or s.Male lie.
Geil, I turn on the cable to the seller tomorrow s.den head. :-)
Or what would you say?
:-)
Antwort von beiti:
In principle, such a cable is faulty, but it is very likely not if the thing is still quite new. I suspect more likely a bug in the adapter, or an incompatibility between the adapter and times.
I do not know how you're technically equipped. Do you have a multimeter or something on hand?
Then you could resistance / passage between the XLR and the clutch free plug: Two of the three poles of the XLR should be with the clutch shaft of the plug connected to conductive (shank is the part closer s.Male housing), the third prong The XLR-coupling should be with the tip of the plug connected.
If you pass this test between the XLR and jack great directing, you know, if the cable works. If the cable is okay, you can put the adapter and repeat the test, then shows whether synonymous contact between Male and adapter there.
Antwort von Gabriel-Sancezz:
So, such a device, I have not. I'm no electrician, otherwise I would have something determined. :-) The cable is synonymous in my opinion already a Bissière from cheap. It is much thinner and rigid than the one I had in rehearsal. But these are all XLR to XLR.
I have now with the cheap part of the way a song recorded.
When the Micro would be better, it could be much better.
Hey, thanks for your help, that was really nice. :-)
Antwort von ostseefisch:
What is this for a cheap microphone, and how did you connected the s.den Calculator?
Man mistaken way, of time to time in an animal such as the microphone SM 58 - as if a powerful bite preamplification missing, one has to listen closely gaaaanz, obs funzt really do not - and if the display is not quite as sensitive to low signals, is the synonymous professionals through the lobes ;-)))
Many greetings, the Baltic Sea
Antwort von beiti:
The cable is synonymous in my opinion already a Bissière from cheap. It is much thinner and rigid than the one I had in rehearsal. But these are all XLR to XLR. [...]
When the Micro would be better, it could be much better. The quality depends not only s.Microphone but synonymous s.Microphone preamplifier. The microphone inputs of the normal sound cards must be regarded more as a stopgap. If you just hinhört, creeps because it is often a buzz, etc. from the computer, and synonymous else is the sound quality is not optimal.
If you take the quality of the Shure microphone fully want to take instead of the sound card built an external audio interface like this:
http://www.thomann.de/de/maudio_mobile_pre_usb.htm
Because you can then synonymous a proper XLR cable, not a shaky connection jack.
A very good and cheap alternative, if it is primarily about singing it and you certainly never more than 1 Microphone want to connect, would be a large-diaphragm Microphone with built-in USB interface:
http://www.thomann.de/de/samson_c01u.htm
Antwort von upro:
Hi, So, the cheap of my nephews Microfinance is such a thin part, synonymous only for talking but it is thought is the only one that I had to try at all times, whether it s.meiner sound card or software is s.der. I did it quite normal in the micro-input and put it to work.
I am synonymous sure that my Shure Micro did not arrive at my calculator. Because doing nothing is not the synonymous smallest noise.
It is synonymous only a matter of my guys from the tape, the individual voices to which they normally sing, so they can practice and do not forget synonymous (which are very forgetful) :-) This is usually synonymous only in the chorus. The Microfinance of my nephew is too bad, because it very quickly becomes distorted.
For these purposes, I am but a 120 euro a synonymous part and 70-80 euro too expensive part, since my vocal recordings at home do not normally do. I have the requisite experience are not.
I'm already happy if I use the Record button to begin to find :-)
Antwort von beiti:
I'm already happy if I use the Record button to begin to find :-) Well, then it probably will not mind if I'm going to explain here, as you the correct cable can solder together yourself. :)
Antwort von thos-berlin:
I suspect more of a non-compatible adapter cables. If you are a small mixer to hand, then close the Shure s.and then go over the line-in sound card. First, you can directly s.mixer see if the Micro goes, and secondly the microphone of a mixer is usually better than that of the sound cards.
But Beiti could still look at the pinout post. Maybe have some other people the problem.
Antwort von upro:
hab grad at Thomann found a less expensive option (but never tested, the sound is not so dolle be, yes, you need to get well but not synonymous, you wrote:
http://www.thomann.de/de/the_tbone_usb1x.htm
This is a cable with which you are a micro like the SM 58 USB connect directly s.den can.
viele grüße, the Baltic Sea
Antwort von beiti:
If you are a small mixer to hand, then close the Shure s.and then go over the line-in sound card. Right. The method I had completely overlooked. A mini-mixer would be a bit cheaper (and hardly any worse) than the aforementioned USB interface:
http://www.thomann.de/de/behringer_ub502_eurorack_5kanalmixer.htm
Has no phantom power as the larger consoles, but for the dynamic Shure needs which are not.
But Beiti could still look at the pinout post. Maybe have some other people the problem. Can I like to make synonymous if the statement is somewhat technical. So for the uncurious: please ignore the next line. ;)
It is therefore, a Microphone with XLR output s.einen TRS microphone input adapter. Therefore we have from the balanced output signal of the microphone to make an asymmetric. Asymmetrically, the signal is the fact that we are the "cold" (phasenverdrehte) signal with mass bridge and only the "hot" (stage right) signal.
Whether the plug 3.5 or 6.3 mm in size is important for the assignment has no role.
As Jack looks, is linked in the earlier figure. The contact is less than 1 is called the shaft, under the 2 (there are only s.3poligen Male) called the ring and less than 3 is called a tip. Each of these contacts is equivalent to a Lötfahne s.anderen end the longest Lötfahne corresponds to the shaft, the middle of the ring and the shortest of the top. (In case of doubt attaches to the short passage.)
In -Male/-Kupplung XLR pins are uniformly numbered. Pin1 is ground, pin 2 is signal hot and cold Pin3 signal.
For a device with mono microphone input we use a 2 pole plug. The tip is with pin 2 of the XLR plug is connected to the shaft with Pin1 and Pin3. Between Pin1 and Pin3 in XLR Male must therefore be a solder bridge.
For a device with stereo microphone input we use a 3poligen Jack and also distribute the hot signal to the left and right input. At times, the tip of the left, the ring of the right channel. So we combine the shank of the plug back on with Pin1/Pin3 XLR Male. Pin 2 of the XLR connector, we combine both ring as synonymous with top of the plug-3pin, ie synonymous Jack in need is a solder bridge.
In very rare cases, there are balanced TRS inputs (eg for some compact audio recorders, where the tiny enclosure no place for XLR jacks was). Then you look at the bridges of Pin1 / 3 of course, prefer to save and take advantage of the symmetrical transmission use. For balanced TRS inputs are synonymous 3polige Jack used, ie the same as for asymmetric stereo. (Use caution when ready to purchase cable! It does not look outside of whether the time for an asymmetric stereo input or a mono-symmetric input is thought!)
Anyway, for the symmetric input directly connected to each pin and not bridged. Pin1 from XLR Male goes s.den shank, pin 2 goes s.die tip and Pin3 is s.den ring.
Antwort von thos-berlin:
Thank you very much.
Antwort von beiti:
hab grad at Thomann found a less expensive option (but never tested, the sound is not so dolle be, yes, you need to get well but not synonymous, you wrote:
http://www.thomann.de/de/the_tbone_usb1x.htm Looks very interesting, vswenn you have a dynamic Microphone owns.
Antwort von upro:
Hello,
Hopefully I have now finally solved the problem. I have someone that I solder the cable so what I need. I have my music business of the problem and the owner makes me the following.
My microphone is mono, so a stereo cable to the top Micro out so prepared that it is synonymous fits. After the bottom so it must be stereo, because the input s.PC.
He has the following synonymous mono jack said:
If you have a mono-times in a stereo jack Is, concludes a short channel and it happened thus synonymous garnicht. Therefore, it is synonymous with me have not worked.
Could that be?
Liebe Grüße
Antwort von Steph.blake:
@ beiti
You've basically already explained how to do it. The cable solder rightly so, as it should be.
Hopefully this works. With me working on something that never kinternet. :-)
Thank you for the alternative synonymous with this USB cable. When it comes with the jack-of times now but does not work, then I shall buy one.
And a small mixer, I will soon acquire synonymous. There is so synonymous quite favorable.
Gruss Steph
Antwort von beiti:
If you have a mono-times in a stereo jack Is, concludes a short channel and it happened thus synonymous garnicht. Therefore, it is synonymous with me have not worked. If you look at the times on the above illustration ansiehst, then you can see which parts of the mono differently than those of the stereo plug: The mono-Male has no "ring" (medium contact), but a longer shaft. The peak is the same for both.
If the mono-times in a stereo jack connector, the left signal correctly, while at the ring, where the socket the right signal expected synonymous only mass is present. You get so s.linken sound channel, and the right remain silent (which you notice immediately Headphones).
The problem has already been often associated with camcorders discussed.
Antwort von thos-berlin:
He argues that he garnicht hear. I am unfortunately in the layouts of the micro-PC connections are not made, but I believe he was mono.
Did he really a mono jack into the soundcard, or the possibly still a stereo jack?
If an adapter, XLR to 6.3 mm jack and balanced behind an adapter 6.3 stereo jack to 3.5
Stereokolinke to use (these things are indeed a headphone adapter in stores all around), is the hot microphones correctly on the nail , the shielding on the chassis. But what happened with the Cold-line? A second contact in the event that you Eien stereo jack into a Monocouplings is, in my opinion, there is not. So is the antithesis of sound in air. There is no sound.
This would be the only explanation for the otherwise intact equipment still in Frege would, if no sound comes.
Conversely (Monoklinke stereo jack), a silent channel.
Antwort von upro:
Yes, I have the thought synonymous, as you've described it.
If the music business from me at least solder the wire correctly, as I need it, provided it works, then I am happy every instance. :-)
I get it now s.and try it out. Alas it does not work.
Then I start crying and s.zu do the USB thing at Thomann.
Incidentally, I have this morning at Thomann called and asked what alternatives there may still exist. The guy I wanted a new sound card with XLR jack sale. :-) So it cost about 150-200 euros. I was of the employee from Thomann said that there is no better solution. This is based either on a technical misunderstanding or a sales tactic.
Liebe Grüsse
Antwort von upro:
Oh and Nochwas who He is you. :-)
Antwort von beiti:
If an adapter, XLR to 6.3 mm jack and balanced behind an adapter 6.3 stereo jack to 3.5 Stereokolinke to use (these things are indeed a headphone adapter in stores all around), is the hot microphones correctly on the nail , the shielding on the chassis. But what happened with the Cold-line? A second contact in the event that you Eien stereo jack into a Monocouplings is, in my opinion, there is not. So is the antithesis of sound in air. There is no sound. Interesting theory. Of cable 3pin XLR to TRS balanced in normal shops are rare, but they are there naturally. Let's suppose the seller illiterates has caught a thing.
Suppose the s.der jack for stereo sound card is designed. Then you get the right signal phase on the left and the phasenverdrehte signal on the right channel. Then it sounds like the channel of a Dolby Surround-Suround mixture, but one would have to hear what - unless the two channels are still somewhere behind (in the sound card or in software) to a mono mixed together. Then, the signals would be mutually extinguish.
Assuming the socket s.der sound is mono. Then it depends on where the shaft sits contact. If he sits relatively far down, he would have the shaft of the stereo plug and you would catch in combination with the top sound, then contact s.mittleren that nothing is connected, should provide for a maximum of disturbances, but the hot, not efface. If the body contact but relatively far above seated, then he caught the ring of the plug and not mass. Then no sound.
And now the very wild theory: Perhaps this is just exactly the contact on the insulator between the shaft and ring. ;)
Antwort von beiti:
The guy I wanted a new sound card with XLR jack sale. :-) So it cost about 150-200 euros. I was of the employee from Thomann said that there is no better solution. This is based either on a technical misunderstanding or a sales tactic. Maybe you will not disappoint the customer, because the simple USB cable but not so great sound. ;) As already said: The world's best Microphone can deliver sound cruel if its signal is not properly processed. Especially dynamic microphones with their low levels of bad preamps are particularly hard hit.
Of course it would be an external sound card is the best solution, because in contrast to the simple USB plug adapters as well, low-noise preamplifier in it, and you can signal the same hardware levels. Moreover, we completely bypass the sound card of the PC, ie it is a possible source of disturbance a priori. Therefore, I had something already next proposed above: http://www.thomann.de/de/maudio_mobile_pre_usb.htm
The next best solution would be a mixer, whose output is then s.den Line input of your sound card connects. (Note: Here again, the best cable to buy. We can clarify if necessary.) Because there is the AD conversion, then the sound card instead, but there are not so many problems because the line signal of house is as sturdy as a soft microphone signal.
The XLR - USB cable of Thoman I do not know from my own intuition. I think it is an interesting idea, but I am rather pessimistic times, which affects the tonal qualities.
Antwort von Steph.blake:
Hi,
I am there again. Well, someone has given me the necessary cable and zusammengelötet .....
It works. Huhuuuu. Success experience.
The sound is really not so good but still much better than with the cheap thing of my nephews. But to me it is the time to record backing vocals.
Declaration on the cable.
There is a stereo cable that has been converted so that my mono-Micro with a XLR cable can. At the other end of the cable is now a small stereo TRS Male. How it works.
At the same time but I still synonymous of a small Behringer mixer or Yamaha auction. Who knows, maybe I mutate yet to Home Recording specialist. :-)))
:-) Vielen Lieben Thanks for the great tips.
That has helped me well.
Liebe Grüße
Steffi
Antwort von thos-berlin:
Sorry only once for the "he" s.die "you".
With the line-in-variant and a mixer, I have no problems. Especially since you have all the technical capabilities of the mixer is available.
But if the budget is small and it is a usable cable synonymous would do ......
See especially: The cable has done it! Great, congratulations
