Newsmeldung von slashCAM:Hier geht es zur Newsmeldung: Sony: Super-35mm NXCAM camcorder s.Sommer 2011
Antwort von nordheide:
Me, it sucks ass that the Manufacturer have been transferred to
Their development (!) With to provide a potential sale date.
If you want to compensate for the time ahead of the competition or turn the potential customer?
If I see that it is only planned to put something on the market, I do not read next.
Antwort von lofi:
So that the whole is ergonomically on the shoulder,
is certainly a little development work is needed.
Antwort von WoWu:
And will soon be mapped only a gray cardboard box.
The Articles of the editors are synonymous not even written but equally taken of the marketing departments as a file.
The text is so vollgeschwafelt with slogans.
As RED has given so a lot of effort. At least they have formed their fantasies or their einwenig milled and futuristic-looking body. This is indeed really an attempt to amuse the people with hollow slogans.
Antwort von Frank B.:
If that was definitive images should be constructed throughout the modules. Ie viewfinder, microphone, shoulder rest, etc., must still be expected to do so. So with safety, the 5000, - ¬ limit exceeded significantly. This state makes it clear to me how much Sonyvor of AG-100 and AF of fear so quickly or makes an announcement to encourage any buyer of the Panasonic to wait.
Whether or not we? Six months is safe for many a long wait, with the AF 100 in mind.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
Me ... it sucks ass that the Manufacturer have been transferred to your development (!) To be provided with a potential sale date ... I'm doing the other way: a design study with no tangible reference to the practice can be seen in short time s.and that's it. But we know that this new development is in six months on the market and used for work, then it is much more interesting.
... So that the whole is ergonomically on the shoulder, is certainly a little development work necessary ... Why? The new Sonyist nor a shoulder camera like the VG10, the AF101 or the 5D MkII. For those who need them, there are shoulder supports and complete rigs long been generally Accessories trade.
... So with security, the 5000, - ¬ limit exceeded significantly ... Of this you can go out, since Sony is usually sold may not have the price argument. The direct competition for this new Sony AF101 will be true, but cheaper than the Panasonic? Hardly.
is a short video from the Sony booth at the InterBEE with potentially interesting audio commentary's way here:
Antwort von WoWu:
then. But we know that this new development in six months on the market and the work is used, See RED ...
And from the final product Sony has not synonymous words in their marketing announcements that in practice it is not used, because the artifacts do not use the Picture.
Antwort von ChillClip:
[...] This state makes it clear to me how much Sonyvor of AG-100 and AF of fear so quickly or makes an announcement to encourage any buyer of the Panasonic to wait.
Whether or not we? Six months is safe for many a long wait, with the AF 100 in mind. Do not think that Sony is still someone on the glue, after the Nex-VG10. Sony power usually requires a little bit right, but the same basic things wrong. A half year wait, only to discover that the new Sony then maybe not again synonymous with manual or Tonausteuerung has a thing can only deliver 25p jerky images? * LOL *
Antwort von Bernd E.:
See ... RED ... The difference, however, that have Sony or Panasonic synonymous so far complied with their announcements. Otherwise it's pretty no preference whether a new camera comes in three, six or nine months on the market: Once it's there, take a close look at it and until then it just works with what currently exists. It's not as if we now had no usable cameras.
I dare even to predict that it with this new Sony will run just like with almost any other camera in the last year: some mock in the forums on disability, ignorance and customer ignorance of the Manufacturer, the only disabled devices with "elementary" defects throw them on the market. The others know how to deal with these deficits, which has every technical equipment, including cars and washing machines, and deserve the same camera with their daily bread.
Antwort von WoWu:
This is probably true, Bernd, but as you say yourself, send users - and particularly commercial, then made their plans synonymous, when, what used to make products (content) of certain qualities synonymous to time may offer s.Markt. Once completely ignoring the fact that the plus of course synonymous very significant effect on the peripheral and infrastructure ggef. has modified the workflow.
Can I expect from a camera at a specific time certain results, I will make my investment planning differently.
Previously the company representatives we have been able to say quite authentic (and want), when is with new products and what they can expect to be exactly.
now they know only synonymous to what produce the advertising Fritzen in faraway Japan s.Ausgüssen Sun
And to make solid plans shake because Marketingfuzzis want to outdo each other .... RED has actually begun. Now only missing that one synonymous with the other company ever has to make payments ... so you just does not jump of the rod, because another company is now in a faster or better.
Antwort von Frank B.:
Sony power usually requires a little bit right, but the same basic things wrong. A half year wait, only to discover that the new Sony then maybe not again synonymous with manual or Tonausteuerung has a thing can only deliver 25p jerky images? * LOL * Well, I think Sonyist already a very good company that can build them, what do the customers. There, you might think but (mM after more than other companies) market strategy. It no longer offers s.als you must. One would like to not make the deal even with our own products in the higher classes broken. Either Sonyden sets state of the art or it is following suit, if present them. But only as much as need be, to sell its products but still can not threaten to above.
The NEX-10 is a Versuchsaballon that pretty quickly of the competition, price and quality as synonymous, is torn to shreds. Let's see what Sony has nachzulegen yet - the latest in one year, I guess is something in the price range of 2 - 3 kilos ¬ comply.
Antwort von WoWu:
Remains to be seen is just how far will the other companies have developed
next to their advantage.
Sony Runs, actually since the success of the Walkman's behind. They have long s.alten patents, such as the interlaced captured and thought they could tie s.ihre success with Beta SP again. Now they make the same mistake with MPEG2 and hope, as long as possible, best to get it because they have missed as a company, the patent development of MPEG4 as well.
With Sony now I have to bring so very much trust in God, it is believed they would in future no longer run after the market.
Antwort von Frank B.:
Sony Runs, actually since the success of the Walkman's behind. : D
Now as critical, the company I would not consider. DV and HDV have initialized it with and had some pretty good equipment very quickly (VX 1000 / FX 1) placed on the amateur market. Even with the AX 2000 (no MPEG, AVCHD but) they have a top-s.Start camcorder. The NEX 10, they throw the first camcorder with APS-C size chip on the market - synonymous AVCHD.
In it I see the great potential of the company. However, Sony has missed with the NEX 10 show to find out is awesome. With such a half-hearted part may be the competition that is not synonymous hergeschwommen on the sausage soup, do not keep their distance. On the contrary, Sony is with the part a little like an idiot there. If they had brought for example, a cam in the format of an AX 2000 with APS-C size chip and Exchangeable optics, XLR inputs and all the manual control of the AX 2000 and had them priced around 1000, - ¬ located higher than the NEX 10, saw the world well for Sony something different.
Antwort von Tuffy:
The low-light and / or expensive E-Mount lenses kill the DoF imagination but faster than our government's energy supply ...
Antwort von WoWu:
Frank ...
so completely I do not agree ... IR was significantly patents of Panasonic (only a few patents include Sony) .... with HDV and they have to do something only insofar as it relates to their MPEG2 patents. While slightly more than MPEG-4, where they participated less.
HDV was largely of JVC, Panasonic characterized as synonymous and initialized!
The experiment, with AVCHD have to create a proprietary format they screwed up companies such as Canon (and synonymous as LG), brought a better profile of AVC have to apply and have the set of Sony used profiles s.acta quickly.
Sonyhätte like the AVCHD quality wave with small steps for the consumer ... used longer.
Did not work out so now and the attempts are to make s.DSLR already failed in the neck.
No, no, to remain behind Tapert Sonydem market and s.den LARGE LITTER I think Sony is no longer.
They always try to tie s.ihr old monopoly and dream of times past. That you can sleep while synonymous fast times the future seems to be not yet arrived.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... The low-light and / or expensive E-Mount lenses kill the DoF fantasy ... Fortunately, one is not on the still quite a few e-mount lenses limited to: Due to the short back focus (even lower than the Micro-4/3-System) can be lots of different exotic optics connecting the ancient to the current mass-produced.
Antwort von AD Tom:
Since Sony makes such a beautiful plan and what comes back out '? AVCHD ... I's do not believe it.
Greetings
Thomas.
Antwort von Tuffy:
... The low-light and / or expensive E-Mount lenses kill the DoF fantasy ...
Fortunately, one is not on the still quite a few e-mount lenses limited to: Due to the short back focus (even lower than the Micro-4/3-System) can be lots of different exotic optics connecting the ancient to the current mass-produced. This is known - the adapter just damn expensive and the entire AF-"profit" whistle goes. I just do not see where "I" to see the great advantage - for the price I finally get a 5D with rig, perhaps even a H4n, boom and Micro.
In-Camera Sound is already practical, but usually you fish with us anyway, there is an external recorder handy. I wonder whom exactly should the appeal, the F3 I personally find appealing (if synonymous vastly more expensive).
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... HDV was largely of JVC, Panasonic characterized as synonymous and initialized !!... A supposedly such a large participation of Panasonic surprise me but already. HDV was originally founded together of Canon, JVC, Sharp and Sony, while Sony still not among the official supporters and indeed synonymous never brought an HDV camcorder on the market. The significant and not just rare side blows HDV in official Panasonic releases you would have more time but probably synonymous pinched when s.der development of the standard itself would have been involved.
Antwort von WoWu:
JVC was subsidiary of Matsuchita .... is the holding company but it no longer and has been included in Panasonic so far could be synonymous oebn Matsuchita.
Then AVCHD would be synonymous not a Panasonic product, because only the connection Matsuchita / Where has Sony. (Before the Resolutionder Holding)
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... I just do not see where "I" to see the great advantage - for the price I finally get a 5D with rig, perhaps even a H4n, boom and Micro ... At the current state of knowledge but everything is still speculation, but one of the main advantages over a video DSLR would be the sensor: no high-megapixel term that is meant for taking pictures and the way to deliver synonymous video requires but a developed specifically for video issues. Whether it's exactly the F3 sensor or only a similar, will show it first. A photo sensor as the VG10 is the Sonyin NXCAM-S35 certainly not intended fit.
Moreover, it is also clear that no camera is the same ideal for all buyers. So if you think an EOS with better served to be, then that's perfectly fine.
... Subsidiary of JVC was Matsuchita ... Okay, so the participation was so to speak quietly through the back door.
Antwort von Tuffy:
Moreover, it is also clear that no camera is the same ideal for all buyers. So if you think an EOS with better served to be, then that's perfectly fine. Price alone probably.
You're right that with the sensor is such a thing. But then synonymous with a useful contact bayonet or clever optics (the old shards there are many, and more of them are total crap). It makes me not to jump up - do the seemingly few here.
Antwort von WoWu:
Only one thing makes me have to "bounce back" .... that finally the object mad Ivan demand that have put the bonsai sensors, returns to the ground and the first time (synonymous of Lens ago) 1080 is at all possible.
As it is quite important that one of the photosensors is gone again and makes a decent adaptation. So, whoever has the edge, it's exciting.
Antwort von Jan:
[...] This state makes it clear to me how much Sonyvor of AG-100 and AF of fear so quickly or makes an announcement to encourage any buyer of the Panasonic to wait.
Whether or not we? Six months is safe for many a long wait, with the AF 100 in mind.
Do not think that Sony is still someone on the glue, after the Nex-VG10. Sony power usually requires a little bit right, but the same basic things wrong. A half year wait, only to discover that the new Sony then maybe not again synonymous with manual or Tonausteuerung has a thing can only deliver 25p jerky images? * LOL * The VG 10 was repeatedly torn apart in the forums that now suggest the devices in the store roots. The few first-time buyers and have the camera now?
Hardly demand - Sonyhat it deserved with a half-hearted implementation. We'll see if that is better now.
VG
January
Antwort von Videoguy:
... Is set funny how many radio stations now on XDCAM, where Sony is so long, but not throw more successful ...
Antwort von Gabriel_Natas:
[...] This state makes it clear to me how much Sonyvor of AG-100 and AF of fear so quickly or makes an announcement to encourage any buyer of the Panasonic to wait.
Whether or not we? Six months is safe for many a long wait, with the AF 100 in mind.
Do not think that Sony is still someone on the glue, after the Nex-VG10. Sony power usually requires a little bit right, but the same basic things wrong. A half year wait, only to discover that the new Sony then maybe not again synonymous with manual or Tonausteuerung has a thing can only deliver 25p jerky images? * LOL *
The VG 10 was repeatedly torn apart in the forums that now suggest the devices in the store roots. The few first-time buyers and have the camera now?
Hardly demand - Sonyhat it deserved with a half-hearted implementation. We'll see if that is better now.
VG
January Well, if the VG 10 is reduced to below 1000 ¬ in price, they would have the right price / performance ratio. The facilities, apart from the Micro is even more to the level (vll even worse) a 550D or 60D, or other HD DSLRs in the price range.
The form factor is better and the handling is probably easier to go with it. But this does not justify the ¬ 1000 price difference.
The VG 10 would be the perfect camcorder in the 1000 ¬ segment. I mean, a lot more expensive than ne NEX 5 is likely to be in the production of non-synonymous, that is probably enough room for Sonyda price for selling the camcorder for 1000 ¬. So that they would DSLRs the excavation of the competition the water;)
