Frage von lehrling76:
Well pretty much the same price, which the cams would you choose for features and documentaries more?
Antwort von rainermann:
good question. Did the EX1 and I'll probably still as the AF100 2.Camera take for the cream stuff. Depth of field and so. From the belly out, I'd say the EX1 is better to use for Run and Gun (but that's really only once so valued!)
Antwort von lehrling76:
Bin all the time on what I consider to procure me. Whether what little first and then later something bigger or equal to what major ... Currently, I'm just confused ...
I had bought the Nex VG10, which has fallen but not as good. Will they bring back today. and then invest the same or superior but "small" to begin with but what a gh2 or handy as the hf s21 (similar hv30 if you know) or what used ne of the Sony family (such as Sony HVR-Z1)
what would you recommend for s.ehesten 're a flagship? :-))
Antwort von rainermann:
Have not yet had the AF101 in the hand. But as interchangeable lenses, I think that the EX1 with the built-in lens would be more favorable. Anyway, I have it in hard use since 2008 and it has really never let me down! Neither in the handling (harsh outdoor environments, Run & Gun at concerts), nor in the quality (of event documentaries to really high-quality commercials and short films). That is, the EX, I can recommend with a clear conscience, I can say to the other (as yet) nothing concrete.
Antwort von rainermann:
Whether what little first and then later something bigger or equal to what major ... In any case regardless of what really clever! Everything else costs more s.Ende! Ne cheap, small'll want to use later, no longer likely, but a like the EX1 can always come back well to take as a second camera that has "reserves" enough in quality and handling.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... What the cams you would rather choose for reports and documentaries? ... Both have their advantages and disadvantages, and which predominate, depends on what's important to you - documentaries make very different demands. Is likely to be universally applicable EX1R, not least because it has a lens that allows the ordinary zooms.
... I'll probably still take the AF100 2.Camera as for the cream stuff. Depth of field and so ... If it's with the purchase does not hurry, this could be worth the wait on the Sony counterpart of AF101, which officially still nameless "NXCAM S35".
Antwort von lehrling76:
-Name? :-))
What might think how long it take?
What you hold for (during the waiting time) of the hf s21? ... It would be synonymous to synonymous later use or as a second camera? Or then maybe the GH2? End of the month is a mega event in England (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tough_Guy_Race) which I would like to record. Therefore need to have a decent camera next week ...
I was just a long time "fan" of the HV30. However, it still takes to tape and synonymous to "only" a Resolutionvon 1440 x 1080. The HF should think s21 since mindestns be just as well?
Antwort von Bernd E.:
What do ... how long could that take? ... Introducing the Camera is the latest on the NAB, so in early April, and it will be available to current knowledge, expected s.June / July.
Antwort von PeterM:
Pushes the eigendlich just me?
Apprentice, in all honesty, I would buy s.deiner place at the time no camera. The way you ask between small cams and semi-professional league back and her jump specific to the display and Cams point for Mdiamarkt bring down and back, maybe you should read just various forums etc, and create the first time a profile for which you need the Cam eigendlich really .
All very common. Neither the 101 nor the Pana AF appearing in future S 35 competitors of Sony, you can buy it at the time, and not synonymous wahrscheilich in 4 weeks.
If you care really about events such as "Tough Guy race" goes, I can only recommend to Smiprofisektor SonyEX1.
Possibly you lend you synonymous with friends or the photography dealer of your confidence a HV 30 etc and meet the decision a little later.
Antwort von PeterM:
double post sorry.
Antwort von ThomasKluge:
I had bought the Nex VG10, which has fallen but not as good. Will they bring back today. While it was already said to much, but what are your reasons against the Nex VG10? (Addendum: I just read that you have in the thread "Gh2 nex10 vs vs HD1000" wrote this) I vacillate between synonymous GH2, AG AF100 and the next SonyCam in the segment. Only buy an expensive lens for the AG to have to AF100, it makes me quite prohibitive. In GH2 I needed safe for Point & Shot a rig and also have a micro, a bright AF Lens was going to be synonymous expensive. As you want to go fast, but I wonder if I take the Nex VG10 against better knowledge, as an interim solution and then later with a corresponding loss flog. At the latest at 1400 ¬ I could be weak for the Nex, for 1600 ¬ I've already seen.
Antwort von PeterM:
If you can live with the image quality of the FX1 plus moiré why not.
For me, the SonyNex is just a snapshot of the APS Sonyum to mix with the consumer sector
Antwort von ThomasKluge:
Neither the 101 nor the Pana AF appearing in future S 35 competitors of Sony, you can buy it at the time, and not synonymous wahrscheilich in 4 weeks. That is not, I have seen the AF 101 in a few online stores, including synonymous as "immediately available" highlighted: keyword "AG-AF101.
And the alternative overseas Gibts synonymous yes ....
Antwort von lehrling76:
@ Thomas wise: I s.we the first time with the cam rotated. the recordings I made in a disco. characteristics of good lowlight me are not noticed as positive as I assumed (maybe I'm just expecting too much synonymous) ... with the visitors I could not work with it effectively. So then when all about lcd screen. I disliked her from Händling just grabbed the white ... and last thing to me directly of s.störte beginning: the screen you can not swing completely to the front. (So that short times why the cam does not have me as promised)
@ Peterm: I enjoy browsing for weeks in various forums around .. my friend brought itself that I spend too much time with it:) ... it's just the way it is. All beginnings are difficult. The last thing I want is to risk it to take pictures whose quality is not sufficiently far, then, that no station which can do with it ...
Antwort von PeterM:
thomas
Would be surprised. There have not been able to order any one AF100 AF101 in D, because a colleague is flying next week to Sanghai was now synonymous few days ago but I do not think that this has changed. Even the U.S. at least trust store is Mau.
We need the Kam for einein panoramic background with the 7-14mm Lens and RED is the us for this production too expensive.
Apprentice
You speak of broadcast material. Since you should get but first time the list of requirements to get the Snede.
In the BBC example is not clear whether and under what Kobsteationen accept the AF 100 material.
If in doubt, rent in the UK dirfür the rotary ne exe and making your decision a little later.
So here with us now 1 clock at night and I do the eyes.
Antwort von lehrling76:
goodnight and thanks for the tips:)
Antwort von rainermann:
Lehrling76:
You talk of broadcast quality. Without wanting to offend you: What did you do? I mean ... just NEN film shoot and then hope that it decreases a station or have any concrete plans and contacts with stations included?
You can read this here so easy and easily written-ready.
The group s.professionellen users who earn their money with really Rotate (as I do for business customers), I am now of course explicitly. But again and again I read of enthusiastic newcomers, who assumed that the channels of course they would receive with open arms ... It would only be missing the correct Camera (...)
I see that too tight? 'm Sorry, because so far little experience, but know of someone I know how hard it is for him, the MDR despite years of experience and best contacts and over again to feed on's new magazine with contributions.
I do like to teach a better - you never stop learning.
Antwort von pilskopf:
I read synonymous never something else.
Antwort von rainermann:
All depend more and more nonsense to s.Technical ... s.der Film Academy we had in the first year / Directing only S-VHS are available. And in the class of camera it was like Christmas when we got a 16mm film reel for our Semesterabeit ... (Until later Digibeta and 35mm for the camera students)
My work as a director on S-VHS was way back then broadcast on SAT1.
Was a funny story, good actors, cut liquid - has no p. .. interested in whether S-VHS or 35mm. The cameraman was synonymous not a good note wg. the number of resolved lines of the chip, or because the gain was low, but for his camera work and lighting was set.
Well ...
kinda sad ...
The cameras have become cheap. Because everyone can now afford a camera with top quality and that makes people too comfortable. They keep s.Technical nonsense on their toys apart and build the basis of technical data sheets, rather than to play with and explore the world :-(
10000e test videos on youtube of 5D, the branches show or read the friend who with 10mm depth of field newspaper. After the test video we hear of the filmmakers never was.
It lacks the "bite".
Antwort von lehrling76:
@ Raw Man: absolutely justified what you write. and certainly my goal, which I have set myself is to achieve, not simply and quickly. synonymous but I have my own "ideas" which I would like to implement, of which I am convinced that it could bring success! Since there is only one way (try) to find out all I need to hold a "little" tips of experienced "creators" ...
There is a beautiful quote, which quite fits here I think now: "We must attempt the impossible, to achieve the possible." (Hermann Hesse)
According to try, is in the eating ... and the taste, the result, in my opinion just to be reasonably fit for broadcast.
sufficient as an answer :-)?
Antwort von rainermann:
Well, yes, the will seems to be there :-)
Draw your thing through and I like to press you fingers crossed!
Antwort von WoWu:
It lacks the "bite No, the ideas ..... A friend who reads the newspaper is still no shipment.
And pictures alone do not.
forget the most. That is why they are on Youtube synonymous in good hands.
the result should, in my opinion just to be reasonably fit for broadcast. reasonably fit send it not available ... either it is fit for sending, or not.
Antwort von lehrling76:
Thank you:)
I've looked at your website. Hats off!
with respect to second-bottom of your contribution with it "lacks the bite", etc. .. understand what you mean. Think it's like many things in life ...
Something like that, it was certainly at that time with paintball .. This made the new players, the best & latest marker (rail equipment) purchased. When they realized that the game does not determine the marker but every single player, then you could see the never or very rarely, only on the field (times smaller than Comparison):)
Antwort von lehrling76:
WOWU: well then I corrected myself: "almost" hereby deleted!
The question then s.Dich: Cam which is therefore determined by your opinion, what is the least likely to call than send fit? :))
Antwort von WoWu:
But I do not want to discourage you, quite the opposite. The phase "testing" You come out of its own.
Either you are then motivated and working s.einem sustainable concept, or the fun has cost you 1000 EUR and the price of land to the rest of E-Bay.
But you are then so or so a new experience.
So it can not go wrong.
Edit: It's a question of price. My advice: go with a cheap camera, the first experience on the acquisition and cut and if that goes ahead, buy yourself a device that meets the requirements of broadcast.
If you're with the "favorable" Camera has created a good product that can not be reshot, one should look to integrate it into another product. I can manage them.
But because I believe it when I saw it.
Therefore ... only a convenient and manageable camera and NLE in the second shot and then get started right.
The two of you provided, I would not take as Beginners. The AF100 will also be quite difficult to handle. If einwenig on the properties. There are too few informative material. The EX1 is quite harmless and you will make good pictures.
Antwort von lehrling76:
Thanks WoWU:)
... I had even bought a few days ago the Nex VG10 and wanted to go to the first experience they bring back today actually ... But today I have another little turn around "played". I think I will keep it and to start my first "steps".
I like the Forum of slashcam here. (If yes real Mega Many opinions represented ....) will keep you happy times encouraging progress:)
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Antwort von pilskopf:
You ought to get the GH2, superior in all aspects of Nex, you still have time. Soon the Rode Videomic Pro available, because the smell from the NEX Micro properly, I can tell you the same. I mean only good because you spend the same amount of money and the GH2 gives a much better quality. With a camera, it's about mainly Picture what you want because with an Alias | Wavefront Mayaing spin with which you can not even interview people who have a checkered shirt or a suit with patterns? That's real cheese. Also, the Af of the GH2 kits is clearly superior to that of the NEX. The visitors of GH2 is a dream, you write, the NEX is your bad. Look them in the store once you exactly, you would not regret it. And the lenses are synonymous with MFt better and the greater choice. A lens like the 25mm Nokton even looking at the Canon 7d first time in vain.
And Vitaly a GH2 firmware got a hack is more likely that he will soon be synonymous.
Antwort von ThomasKluge:
Soon the Rode Videomic Pro available, because the smell from the NEX Micro properly. Although OT here but I'm wondering for quite awhile that this mono microphones are so universally popular. Why? So for my case I would have been like stereo.
Antwort von ThomasKluge:
And Vitaly has a firmware get GH2 Oh, those are fantastic news :-) That is indeed assets for GH2. Then be expected to ensuring that the 30min barrier falls and more.
Antwort von pilskopf:
I will ne bit higher at 720p would be brilliant for timelapse the limit. Here is the thread to do so. http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?236360-News-about-GH2-firmware
Antwort von ThomasKluge:
Oh, the firmware is encrypted, which puts the whole thing a bit again. Well, we hope for the best.
Antwort von lehrling76:
I know that you mean well with the advice! (I am just as if I am somewhat convinced of ....)
Honestly, I had the synonymous until this morning before Pils head ... since then because of the advantage would be that if I decide later times for AF100 could use the same objective ...
However, consumption in s.der gh2 then the following accessories:
- Microfoneverstärker as for example here:
http://www.musicstore.de/de_DE/EUR/-/art-REC0007752-000?campaign=GBase
- Light
- Microphone (I have the order here, if the quality is sufficient, I would like to attach with the included stand s.der Cam, otherwise look around for a directional Micro: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem & item = 160537012423 & ru = http% 3A% 2F% 2F% 3A80% 2Fshop.ebay.de 3F_from%%% 3DR40 26_trksid 3Dp5197.m570.l1313%%%% 26_nkw 26_sacat% 3D160537012423 3DSee-All-Categories% 26_fvi% 3D1 & _rdc = 1 # ht_3844wt_1141
apart of the additional costs wg Micro Amplifiers ... You should have an idea / solution as I get attached to all the things s.die Cam? Are there any solutions which, despite the accessories can still be handy to stay?
Basically I was the gh2 so synonymous with sympathy to the swivel to the front screen (you had time to look around the viewfinder wg whether it can operate both at the same time?)
Antwort von pilskopf:
You'd need a nice containing rig like this are endless variations. I advise you to show s.dem filmmaker looks like, he should look up in interviews, do not look directly into the Cam, I would advise against of this idea. It does not do nothing no one. : D
Antwort von pilskopf:
No go def. not both. The only thing I can think there would be a small screen now if you need the file. I do not recommend anyway.
Antwort von WoWu:
That would be the right thing ..... However slimmed down ... You need to think .... the Compendium
OT
@ Mushroom
Hab'Dein "Berlin thing" seen .... must say, excellent!
Antwort von lehrling76:
Have you ever even moderated? ... .. I stand not only behind the Cam if I'm ahead I like to see "in the Camera" ... one who is interviewed then looks into the camera automatically synonymous. So large and altogether a much more comfortable working as a "headless".
Wherein: the problem is not in the nex solved. Also, since it would still require an external monitor ...
WOWU: what for? * Laughs **... this looks monstrous:)))
