Newsmeldung von slashCAM: SonyPMW EX1 Test of Adam Wilt of thomas - 3 Feb 2008 16:46:00 After
Vorserien Test der SonyEX1
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Antwort von eXp:
The Resolutionist class, but a CMOS without global shutter - no thank you ...
On the other knows it and this restriction must hold better watch out ...
I prefer to wait ne HVX300 or Canon with solid state recording media ...
Antwort von r.p.television:
I find this review helpful and less it seems to me not entirely objectively synonymous.
He pointed at the most defects, talk about it but somehow always beautiful - the motto that you can work around where you .... bla bla.
On the sputtering or anruckenden zoom servo, it is not received. Either of these errors such as vignetting meanwhile from the series or he has noticed s.nicht or b) he forgets it.
To a): I can not imagine. I had a series device in his hand and me is struck after three minutes.
Maybe someone here can enlighten himself already has.
Most, I am on the Review of the trunk forward, which is apparently one has now synonymous.
This article seems to me more meaningful:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=120699
Without someone as evil to want to insinuate, but the contribution of Adam Wilt appeared to me a little as if he some SONY people are closer than the objectivity of this report would have done well.
After coming in a relatively abstract ungeschönte pro-and contra-representation. Only the defiant Zoomservo is here synonymous under the table.
Antwort von ruessel:
Most, I am on the Review of the trunk forward, which is apparently one has now synonymous. My impression of the Ex1 I have s.einer Magazine "sold" (why should I even try as long as the EX1). But I will certainly have something to write on my blog, if my time permits me.
Until today I have 12 hours with the Ex1 filmed (as per-hour meter in the menu) and I have noticed a few things on the remaining None has written positively as synonymous negative.
To zoom, I can only say, there goes my EX1 flawlessly - synonymous in Kriechzoomstellung.
Antwort von eXp:
@ Trunk
"For the zoom, I can only say, there goes my EX1 flawlessly - synonymous in Kriechzoomstellung."
When I zoom behaves synonymous exemplary. Except for a Shottransition. There is almost always a slight Ruckler s.Ende driving.
Regards
Antwort von ruessel:
There is almost always a slight Ruckler s.Ende driving. I have not yet done ..... I will give it a try. What number do you have? With 4 or 1 s.Anfang?
Antwort von r.p.television:
To zoom, I can only say, there goes my EX1 flawlessly - synonymous in Kriechzoomstellung. That's interesting. So then I had a device with either a slight defect in the hand.
Or in the early series were exactly like the vignetting with poorly functioning models interspersed.
Then it would at least have been an evil lack gone.
Remains as the rolling shutter (at least for various application areas) of serious item on the cons list.
Also I would be interested to know whether someone has done a matte s.das thing to assemble. It was already in the linked thread of me and mentioned I also wondered how I get off my Century is because simply no place for it.
Without my 4x4 filter, I can shoot some do not even imagine.
Antwort von r.p.television:
I thought not Chrosziel Century.
Antwort von ruessel:
Except for a Shottransition. There is almost always a slight Ruckler s.Ende driving. Have just 4 Shottr. done because jerky for me synonymous nix.
Antwort von r.p.television:
Then there's this camera probably extreme scattering series. At least then you can leave nachbessern or exchange.
Antwort von ruessel:
Then there's this camera probably extreme scattering series. I suspect synonymous, at least until today, there are already two series, recognizable s.der serial number (4xxxx or 1xxxxx).
Antwort von r.p.television:
Then there are up to now models in the series where
s.der Zoomservo generally anruckt slow or jerky Kriechzooms between
b) only the Shot Transition flick or
c) none of these shortcomings s.Zoomservo aufweist.
Then there are interference as vignetting, and bugs in WB and perhaps gain even more.
How can we deal with a series of such dispersion is still to leave some kind of testing?
Either one is supported by Contra-off points, which only occurred during testing, or it falls on a positive test here in which the test is a preselected or random error model into the hands got.
I somehow come to the same opinion as my Dealers: Sonyhat time pressure in order to rapidly develop and this is the quality fell by the wayside.
I have one last remaining hope that the S270 does not list these shortcomings repeatedly, because I actually thought that they got my DSR-500 could replace. But all the bad news on the RS problem is that hope is dwindling.
Antwort von ruessel:
How can we deal with a series of such dispersion is still to leave some kind of testing? I have a second Ex1 requested to compare them. I hope the next series is synonymous further improved as it actually is synonymous usual (series A + B). As written, my model has other smaller and larger (quality-) defects ...... hopefully only s.meiner EX1 to be found.
Antwort von r.p.television:
As written, my model has other smaller and more (quality) faults ...... hopefully just s.meiner EX1 to be found. The sounds in this context, just as if there really were serious shortcomings ....
I Magazine what is it to find your test?
Antwort von smooth-appeal:
The XHA1 and Sony the HVX have definitely set the spot ...
I see the EX1 as a transitional model of Sonyan. Either they did a real Überflieger in the development or the "improved" his successor enters service. The Comparison with the above two cameras the EX1 does not necessarily to fear, there are enough good synonymous sites s.der Camera.
Still frightened me the many flaws of the total purchase package. Until the next or the year of purchase of a higher quality camera is still due to happen a lot and it is guaranteed to appear something more interesting than the NAB last year, suggest.
At Canon, I see this year, not more followers of the XH and XL series coming. Although synonymous s.einigen points for improvement there.
Antwort von ruessel:
The sounds in this context, just as if there really were serious shortcomings .... Neee ..... smaller, such as labeling goes by the slow housing s.and more like the Lens - loss of detail in different focal lengths. But, as already written, maybe my Ex1 synonymous is a unique case ...... therefore necessarily EX1 wait a second to certify the error.
Antwort von smooth-appeal:
What surprises me are the many problems that arise among users. That I was not yet of Sonygewöhnt, but I have always synonymous only some time after the appearance accessed ... Hmm
Antwort von r.p.television:
What surprises me are the many problems that arise among users. That I was not yet of Sonygewöhnt, but I have always synonymous only some time after the appearance accessed ... Hmm I can only confirm. I was of Sony Always very good reliability and error-free normally. If I have a SONY camera sold, then only because it was outdated and not from dissatisfaction or because it was broken.
Power with the Sony EX1 as a dangerous tightrope between innovation, great picture quality, good light sensitivity vs.. qualitative intrusions, poor handling and other shortcomings.
Not everyone will be invited to the beta testers appointed feel.
Antwort von eXp:
I can only confirm. I was of Sony Always very good reliability and error-free normally. If I have a SONY camera sold, then only because it was outdated and not from dissatisfaction or because it was broken.
Power with the Sony EX1 as a dangerous tightrope between innovation, great picture quality, good light sensitivity vs.. qualitative intrusions, poor handling and other shortcomings.
Not everyone will be invited to the beta testers appointed feel.
Yes, I am quite of your opinion
@ trunk: Serial no. starts with 401
Regards
Antwort von ruessel:
@ trunk: Serial no. starts with 401 My synonymous .....
Antwort von eXp:
Doppelt hält besser
[quote] I can only confirm. I was of Sony Always very good reliability and error-free normally. If I have a SONY camera sold, then only because it was outdated and not from dissatisfaction or because it was broken.
Power with the Sony EX1 as a dangerous tightrope between innovation, great picture quality, good light sensitivity vs.. qualitative intrusions, poor handling and other shortcomings.
Not everyone will be invited to the beta testers appointed feel.
Yes, I am quite of your opinion
RUSSELS, the Serial. starts with 4.
Regards
Antwort von r.p.television:
@ trunk: Serial no. starts with 401
My synonymous ..... Two different behaviors under the same serial number. Then Sony really has a quality problem.
I know not what the device had serial number, which I just had to try, but regardless of this thread taken within three experience levels, which suggest that either in development or production is significantly geschludert.
Antwort von ruessel:
Before here now EX1 completely falls out of favor, we must not forget to come here actually still quite nice pictures out ...... I'm even a XHA1 owner .... but already wearing the EX1 germ in me.
Just wait until the manufacturing process at Sony has been completed correctly, then wait for the new firmware - so that not only the sauteuren SxS cards work ..... then I could soon be weak ..... until the next camera with more color (4:2:2) more data rate (100Mbit )....... (Canon A2?)
What's up with Sony XV Color kram? Why is not synonymous in the EX1 drin?
Antwort von ruessel:
Here is a little mixed Ex1 material:
http://www.archive.org/download/PWM_EX1/a01.mxf.mpg (daylight swing, sun-shade, 120MB)
http://www.archive.org/download/PWM_EX1/a02.mxf.mpg
(Special FX - SlowShutter + Time Lapse, 104Mb)
http://www.archive.org/download/PWM_EX1/a03.mxf.mpg
(Church, 70MB)
http://www.archive.org/download/PWM_EX1/a04.mxf.mpg
(darker area church, recording Heller as the eye sees it, 60MB)
http://www.archive.org/download/PWM_EX1/a05.mxf.mpg
(darker area church, zoom + Schwenk, 67MB)
http://www.archive.org/download/PWM_EX1/a06.mxf.mpg
(darker area church, zoom + Schwenk, 95MB)
http://www.archive.org/download/PWM_EX1/a07.mxf.mpg
(Manuel shift focus after Peaksignal + LCD screen, 76MB)
http://www.archive.org/download/PWM_EX1/a08.mxf.mpg
(Special FX in church - Time Lapse SlowShutter + + ND filter, 105MB)
http://www.archive.org/download/PWM_EX1/a09.mxf.mpg
(Zoom + Pan in dark church with Gain-3dB, then to +6 dB and +18 dB - Warning the file is 200 MB large!)
http://www.archive.org/download/PWM_EX1/a10.mxf.mpg
(Church-3dB Gain, 130MB)
[download data on disk, with vlc media player then chart of plate]
Antwort von r.p.television:
Before here now EX1 completely falls out of favor, we must not forget to come here actually still quite nice pictures out ...... I'm even a XHA1 owner .... but already wearing the EX1 germ in me.
The amazing picture quality with the synonymous nobody should deny.
What's up with Sony XV Color kram? Why is not synonymous in the EX1 drin? I think the fact that there is completely different development teams were s.werkeln. This is just the fact that S270 or Z7 CF card use can be found and Zeiss Lenses were installed - unlike SxS and Fujinon.
One team had extended the color content is not already on the task list.
As if a hand not knowing what the other is doing.
Internal competition?
Generally, the new camcorder will of SONY as of different manufacturers to be. Almost as if a development team with the other leg to pee and wanted to steal the show.
CF instead of expensive SxS is evidence here and probably almost SONY reasoning problems, if one wants to know the reason.
Everything of course, only speculation, but makes sense.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... CF instead of expensive SxS is evidence here and probably almost SONY reasoning problems, if one wants to know the reason ... That is unlikely, since Sonyden reason for the different maps already in the presentation of the new HDV camcorder has called:
... Juan Martinez of Sony ... explains why these models Sonybei CF cards, the PMW-EX1 SxS but uses Express Cards. Here is the link to the video:
http://ieba.wordpress.com/2007/11/29/ieba-presents-sony-seminar-hvr-s270-hvr-z7u/#more-363
Antwort von eXp:
Just wait ...
the successor of a1/hvx and then synonymous of ex1 is intended
not much worse ...
gruß cj
Antwort von Bernd E.:
Just wait ... Is certainly not a bad idea! As currently synonymous American television such as CNN greater quantities of the EX1 designed, it should soon provide further insight from the practice. Perhaps then flows synonymous to one or other change in the model maintenance.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von r.p.television:
http://www.archive.org/download/PWM_EX1/a06.mxf.mpg
(darker area church, zoom + Schwenk, 95MB)
Very impressive, I find the very gentle when drawing aperture jumps. That I could find favor. All in all, as expected, a very impressive picture. However, I am the second clip with the Time Lapse noticed a general fuzziness. Why?
Antwort von eXp:
@ Rptelevision:
Even with my EX1, there are no more problems with the EX1, which zoom (servo is super smooth, no vignetting), aperture, WB, etc.!
As far as I'm excited to really hardly usable AutoFocus ...?
Gruß Dennis
Antwort von DeeZiD:
@ Rptelevision:
Even with my EX1, there are no more problems with the EX1, which zoom (servo is super smooth, no vignetting), aperture, WB, etc.!
As far as I'm excited to really hardly usable AutoFocus ...?
Gruß Dennis That was my contribution: D
Antwort von r.p.television:
... CF instead of expensive SxS is evidence here and probably almost SONY reasoning problems, if one wants to know the reason ...
That is unlikely, since Sonyden reason for the different maps already in the presentation of the new HDV camcorder has called:
... Juan Martinez of Sony ... explains why these models Sonybei CF cards, the PMW-EX1 SxS but uses Express Cards. Here is the link to the video:
http://ieba.wordpress.com/2007/11/29/ieba-presents-sony-seminar-hvr-s270-hvr-z7u/#more-363 Hm ...
I can understand the reasoning (which he does not of itself from herausplauderte) not quite understand.
If he is on the Overcranking and refers to concepts such as 100Mbit per second in the word is, I'm either completely misinformed or he has actually talked nonsense.
Corrected me if I am wrong, but I thought 35MBits mode at 1080i / p would only be a minimal Overcranking (now do not know exactly, but I think only 5 frames) is possible. As I come perhaps to 45 Mbit. And the latest CF cards.
From the perspective of the developers like that reasoning, perhaps conclusive, because the date was not confirmed that CF cards can provide this performance. Only with the 100Mbit per second by Overcranking Spanish before coming to me, but maybe when I read the datasheets missed.
Antwort von jmarugg:
In the recordings of the trunk has an impressive picture of tranquility. I have so never seen photos in 1080i. The colors come across very cleanly. Really very nice pictures!
Antwort von ruessel:
In the recordings of the trunk has an impressive picture of tranquility. Yes, that's true. Finally, MPEG gezucke no longer visible .... synonymous when 10 cm in front of a huge flat is ;-)
Hard to believe that a slight increase in data of 25 Mbit to 35 Mbit mind so much ..
I do not like her look, but since I can barely Ex1 normal HDV / AVCHD endure. Nevertheless, s.der Ex1 is not synonymous gold ..... the "perfect" camera for me looks a bit different .... but since I can probably live up to my evening dream, almost perfect Camera under 10,000 euro will probably not come for me.
I would just make shots, the image sharpness / Resolutionund optical colors as I make it from Blurayfilm on my 46 inch flat'm accustomed ;-)
Antwort von jmarugg:
@ trunk
Hard to believe that a slight increase in data of 25 Mbit to 35 Mbit mind so much .. I believe that Sony is not just the data rate increases, but the codec itself synonymous greatly improved.
I do not like her look, but since I can barely Ex1 normal HDV / AVCHD endure. With very few exceptions, I see this as synonymous.
And yes, some ergonomic shortcomings of this camera are of vital importance!
Regards
Antwort von ruessel:
What I still do not understand it, how can I have filmed stuff for the technical data read later? So data like aperture, shutter, Gainwerte ...
Antwort von vidwalter:
@ trunk
Quote:
What I still do not understand it, how can I have filmed stuff for the technical data read later? So data like aperture, shutter, Gainwerte ...
In the user manual of the XDCAM EX Clip Browsing Software "on Page 21 is all what you listed under" Clip Properties "will appear.
Sorry seems to be a readout of such data is currently not planned to be. Very sad. But maybe we can get these opportunities still nachgelifert in the form of a software update.
Regards
Antwort von Tintoretto:
@ trunk
Quote:
What I still do not understand it, how can I have filmed stuff for the technical data read later? So data like aperture, shutter, Gainwerte ...
In the user manual of the XDCAM EX Clip Browsing Software "on Page 21 is all what you listed under" Clip Properties "will appear.
Sorry seems to be a readout of such data is currently not planned to be. Very sad. But maybe we can get these opportunities still nachgelifert in the form of a software update.
Regards Hmmm, all the data from the respective setting as format, mitaufgezeichnet be found in the cryptic XML files - more metadata gibts not synonymous and can not be later
Antwort von ruessel:
Hmmm, all the data from the respective setting as format, mitaufgezeichnet be found in the cryptic XML files nothing in the data stream MXF packaged? When HDV is synonymous yes .....
In the user manual of the XDCAM EX Clip Browsing Software "on Page 21 is all what you listed under" Clip Properties "will appear. Where is the user manual of the software? If not for me .....
Antwort von vidwalter:
@ trunk
Where is the user manual of the software? If not for me ..... On the supplied CD
Grusse
Antwort von vidwalter:
Hello Wolfgang
I've got you just the Benutzerhanbuch sent as a pdf if you have the CD of Sony did not get.
Antwort von ruessel:
Many thanks!
I had the software directly SonyPage of the down loaded version 1.2
I'm going to get through the upcoming times ..... would like to first say a few shots in 24P with the Ex1 make the camera must be back again so soon, unfortunately.
Antwort von jmarugg:
... CF instead of expensive SxS is evidence here and probably almost SONY reasoning problems, if one wants to know the reason ...
That is unlikely, since Sonyden reason for the different maps already in the presentation of the new HDV camcorder has called:
... Juan Martinez of Sony ... explains why these models Sonybei CF cards, the PMW-EX1 SxS but uses Express Cards. Here is the link to the video:
http://ieba.wordpress.com/2007/11/29/ieba-presents-sony-seminar-hvr-s270-hvr-z7u/#more-363
Hm ...
... If it relates to the Overcranking and while terms like 100Mbit per second in the word is, I'm either completely misinformed or he has actually talked nonsense.
Corrected me if I am wrong, but I thought 35MBits mode at 1080i / p would only be a minimal Overcranking (now do not know exactly, but I think only 5 frames) is possible. As I come perhaps to 45 Mbit. I can not understand synonymous. It is my understanding after only decide how many pictures the camera takes in the second. These are maximum 60th Whether behind with 25 or 30 fps to be played, is yes then secondary.
I understand in the context of this statement are not synonymous as the 35 Mbit relate. Work 720 25p and 720 50p with the same bitrate? Or is this at 50p twice as high?
Gruss Eva
Antwort von Ponzi:
nothing in the data stream MXF packaged? When HDV is synonymous yes .....
When I look at the original files (MP4, SMI, PPN, XML, BIM), then in some XML file metadata such as video frame rate, audio format, Videoausflösung ...
As you say are actually metadata in the video stream (MP4) in the clear, but these are the same as in the XML file. Weiss someone water the other for a role?
SMI: Subtitles, clear
BIM: could be interesting: RealTimeMetaCameraMeta.xsd - did, however, no data schema for the trial & error and found no time :-)
Antwort von WeiZen:
[quote = "trunk"]
Yes, that's true. Finally, MPEG gezucke no longer visible .... synonymous when 10 cm in front of a huge flat is ;-)
Hard to believe that a slight increase in data of 25 Mbit to 35 Mbit mind so much ..
Can not s.der data is that it is higher, because not 1440x1080, but 1920x1080 is recorded to be on board.
Antwort von jmarugg:
[quote = "Wheat"]
Yes, that's true. Finally, MPEG gezucke no longer visible .... synonymous when 10 cm in front of a huge flat is ;-)
Hard to believe that a slight increase in data of 25 Mbit to 35 Mbit mind so much ..
Can not s.der data is that it is higher, because not 1440x1080, but 1920x1080 is recorded to be on board. Is no more but HDV XDCAM. However, even in Long GOP, but the quality is still better. Much more steadiness, beautiful colors.
Antwort von jmarugg:
not to forget the ex-works in 35mbps with vbr (variable data), HDV uses a constant data rate cbr (ex synonymous in sd mode = 1440). already by this xdcamhd vbr-format, the HDV over the ex nase forward.
gruß kroky
Antwort von jmarugg:
not to forget the ex-works in 35mbps with vbr (variable data), HDV uses a constant data rate cbr (ex synonymous in sd mode = 1440). already by this xdcamhd vbr-format, the HDV over the ex nase forward.
gruß kroky No SD, which can only SDI, in addition to uncompressed HD 4.2.2 is used. ONLY way is for the SD EX1 possible. In addition there is the HQ SP format. Is often confused!
Antwort von jmarugg:
I have not even a trial with an HDV cam in sd
.. added white garnicht whether it's working
s.meinen cams ....
gruß cj
Antwort von vidwalter:
Hello Guest
That is not true. In addition to SDI, there is the potential A / V out and component out for SD use.
Antwort von Matoff:
is sometimes verwirrent for people who do not know the ex. sd is the ex of 1440x1080 25mbps mode, now called at times and sony has nothing to do with the actual sd format. Incidentally, the ex synonymous sd-format output. I know beforehand? I was at the dealer-prokuktvorstellung.
gruß kroky
Antwort von Matoff:
is sometimes verwirrent for people who do not know the ex. sd is the ex of 1440x1080 25mbps mode, now called at times and sony has nothing to do with the actual sd format. Incidentally, the ex synonymous sd-format output. I know beforehand? I was at the dealer-prokuktvorstellung.
gruß kroky NO, wrong! The 1440x1080 25 MBit format is SP, not SD. Lass es Dir Of Some say the EX1 has. Download the German manual of the Sony EX1 Hompage (PDF) download times. It is all beautifully explained. There is a HQ which is always in 35 Mbit / s (CBR) is working. Everything in kontanten 25 MBit mode (vbr) recorded SP. The EX1 can not record in SD but only via SDI (and the two analog outputs (sorry obeb was a mistake of me)) is a down-converted SD output.
Also, synonymous with Sonyist still SD (standard definition) and SD is not above 576x720 format!
Antwort von Matoff:
brrr ... sorry spelling mistake, you're right, of course, was not and sp sd. thanks. only .. look into your sony manual, because you confuse something. mode of the sp has 25mbps with
cbr (constant frame rate) wegegen compatibility to HDV. the better mode has a 35mbps
vbr (variable frame rate) of the same codec as in the closely-dino. I have written, which may ex sd output of the record was not talking about.
gruß kroky
Antwort von work_hard_play_hard:
Sorry, I have swapped the heat of the battle!
Antwort von snoboy:
What's up with Sony XV Color kram? Why is not synonymous in the EX1 drin? Perhaps this can be with with a preset to be set up.
Antwort von snoboy:
brrr ... sorry typing error,
gruß kroky Spelling errors? Was more likely your mind yet!
Antwort von ruessel:
Perhaps this can be with with a preset to be set up. No, XV Color is an extended (color) Record, via an HDMI 1.3a connection to flat filters. But as far as I know there is no intersection to this day the program can handle it, the color of the Advanced Camera will invite into the editing software simply cut off ..... please me better, if it is already an editing system with XV color is on the market.
Antwort von bento124:
[quote = "rptelevision"]
Also I would be interested to know whether someone has done a matte s.das thing to assemble. It was already in the linked thread of me and mentioned I also wondered how I get off my Century is because simply no place for it.
Without my 4x4 filter, I can shoot some do not even imagine. I have a Vocas MB-250. The match is limited, ie only when the screen ausklappt. Filter change is only after removing the Mattebox possible (or, if you dare, at the bottom of inverted matte)
Antwort von bento124:
@ Trunk
if there is already an editing system with XV color is on the market. Actually, it can cut some programs for which the correction for the illegal colors may be off because the primary colors and white, the reference will remain unchanged as in the standard sRGB receive. xvYCC is limited more to the not yet defined parts of the signal level, ie the expansion of space and bit 1-16 of 241-254 in the chroma-axis and of bits 1-15 and 236-254 in the luma axis.
Of the 256 possible quantization (in 8bit) is only 220, for reasons of compatibility with the analog world, use.
Perhaps this can be with with a preset to be set up. The new color is primarily a spread in the direction of cyan and green.
Subsequent spread can not correct such produce, because it only restricted the spreading of the quantization means, and in the other process but actually an extension of the quantization is achieved, what with the corresponding profit is quality.
It is not possible that it is Kameraseitig through a firmware change can generate because it is simply another assignment in the address space means.
Whether your own NLE xvYCC processing, when the correction for illegal color is off, you can monitor s.waveform recognize its value (mainly in red clearly go into the negatives. These colors are very saturated from this and really make a good impression So ... definitely a step forward, as I find synonymous and a step that the old analog braids from the time off.
Antwort von ruessel:
Hmmm ...... see:
http://forum.slashcam.de/viewtopic.php?t=51755&p=233862 # 233862 You may be "Deep Color" option for a higher number of bits per color in HDMI 1.3 will not be used with the xvYCC Enhanced Colorimetry "confused or equated.
Antwort von bento124:
Hello
thank you for the hint, but the poster is wrong here, because the procedures are identical:
We have developed a new display / video camera and wide-gamut tools for characterizing a new standard for extended-gamut YCC color space called xvYCC. Video System Adapting this standard will have improved accuracy of color reproduction of real world. Tatsuhiko Matsumoto
This method relies on the implementation of YCC (ITU-R BT.709-5 for HDTV and ITU-R BT.605-5 for SDTV) on.
In the current color space can be very many colors with only 55% intensity are presented.
The poster is mistaken when he assumes that the metadata in any other colors are included.
Colors are only a mixed product of Primärvalenzen and the white reference and are not somehow outside of darzugegeben. For an expanded address space can obviously further nuances (and thus colors) arise. Consider only the difference between 8 (256 colors) and 10 bit (16 million colors). Each usable bit extended the color palette so drastically.
In the metadata, however, are actually only the tax information and the information in the LUT in the monitor included. (I want to give me, here is the list to post).
Unfortunately, I can with such names as
virtually Unconstrained gamut not really begin, because these terms are nowhere defined. Somehow the heist as soetwa yes:
in its full color limitations. Now that there is a
full color does not exist and we all know that the previous xvYCC color space from sRGB BT.709-5 is greatly exceeds any comprehensible.
Therefore synonymous possibility, such a signal to generate, if the address space limitation will be signaled (or off). However, once a record by such a limitation gone, can not spread more later, as the
Unconstrained, so the enhanced content is missing.
Antwort von bento124:
Maybe even a supplement to the information: The methodology of the metadata transfer to the enlarged color display is also in the United States Patent 6262744 fixed. For those who just wish to capture.
Antwort von bento124:
I see straight, there was still a small logic error in it ... Of course there must be at 8 bit 256 colors are not hot, but Q-steps and in accordance with 10 bit is not synonymous ... 16 M colors I just do not know how to edit can ... But it's drum.
Antwort von olipool:
@ trunk: how is it your assessment if you xha1 with the ex1 vergelichst in terms of picture quality? There perhaps someday have a shootout in your blog? :-)
Antwort von ruessel:
Since my EX1 in the telecommunications field is broken, can I just say about wide shots:
I like the shots Ex1 HQ 35MBits better than the recordings of my XH A1:
1. The Wide Angleist almost completely free of CA in the telecommunications field .... it is as strong as with my Canon. But yes it is usually in the middle or wide area s.filmen.
2. The codec looks better than HDV. Hardly grieseln s.Farbkanten.
3. The "Farbdymanik" is in the larger Ex1, where the XH A1 has luminous colors run together, one sees in the EX1 or surface structure.
4. Filming with one of Ex1 in 25P rises synonymous nor the EX1 detail and resolution, the Canon clearly from.
But I have to admit that the Ex1 times synonymous and synonymous recordings ausflippt produces not s.die Canon rankommen .... I suspect that my Ex1 really has broken the Lens. Moreover, I can not autofocus with the Ex1 film, here is one of Canon really spoils. Even the image stabilizer of the Ex1 is rather weak as to describe (as shines the XH A1) and makes a tripod is necessary.
Filming with one of Ex1 in the "HDV" mode, melts the Ex1 advantage, I believe strongly together, but here is the almost-free CA Wide Angletrotzdem positive effect ..... a better detail resolution HDV, I can but in my test shots do not recognize.
Antwort von ruessel:
Why can you actually here in the forum do not edit the text afterwards? Or have I missed the button?
Antwort von bento124:
What exactly do you mean with a defective Tele?
Do you have a problem synonymous with the wrong Auflagemaß, which is synonymous with the maintenance AutoFB Adjust Menu can not improve?
Or show significantly greater than in CAs Wide Angleauf out a defect?
Otherwise, it is for me synonymous s.die time, the Prime to contact technical support.
Is the EX1, but until the middle of the month ... : (
And yes, the Wide Angleist einfach klasse.
Gruß Dennis
Antwort von ruessel:
What exactly do you mean with a defective Tele? the right half of the screen is s.ca. 70% of max. Focal blurred ..... at SD resolution, the CA is synonymous there is very large.
The Auflagemaß agrees not always synonymous ..... sounds stupid, but 10 times in a row examined 7 times, it is true, 3 times during zurückzoomen not .... what loosely in Optics?
Antwort von Tom Keller Schweiz:
I think I could at least my problem with the Auflagemaß resolve - after multiple zooming synonymous ...
I have the AutoFB Adjust simply run out of trees and branches to the fine focus.
Now, all sharp! : D
And the Tele is synonymous sharp anywhere - I calmed down:)
Gruß Dennis
Antwort von olipool:
@ trunk: thank you for your assessment!
Antwort von bj-the-oj:
I think I could at least my problem with the Auflagemaß resolve - after multiple zooming synonymous ...
I have the AutoFB Adjust simply run out of trees and branches to the fine focus.
Now, all sharp! : D
And the Tele is synonymous sharp anywhere - I calmed down:)
Gruß Dennis Under what menu is because the
AutoFB Adjust to achieve?
Thanks J
Antwort von bj-the-oj:
And anyway ... how do you car Auflagemaß a ... much light should be so Dennis at "Wetten dass" Sign ...
Antwort von r.p.television:
And anyway ... how do you car Auflagemaß a ... much light should be so Dennis at "Wetten dass" Sign ... u
The Canon XL H1 is, in fact, after the interrogation of the menu item Auflagemaß AUTO. Is not synonymous technically impossible task. As long as is optimal sharpness at minimum and maximum focal determined until the optimum is reached.
In itself a good development, because while no full-HD monitor, you can now with HD cameras no Auflagemaß set. And the Siemens star can remain synonymous daheim.
Would not surprise me if the EX1 which could synonymous. Basically here is the question of the benefits - for a fixed lens assembled ..... This should actually be set correctly s.Werk! Since proposing the series probably re haze!
Antwort von DeeZiD:
I think I could at least my problem with the Auflagemaß resolve - after multiple zooming synonymous ...
I have the AutoFB Adjust simply run out of trees and branches to the fine focus.
Now, all sharp! : D
And the Tele is synonymous sharp anywhere - I calmed down:)
Gruß Dennis
Under what menu is because the AutoFB Adjust to achieve?
Thanks J Press Select, Menu and Cancel simultaneously, then the menu appears with an increased number of sub menus. In one of them are firmware, serial number and hold the Adjust AutoFB function:)
Gruß Dennis
