Frage von Realit:
Hi folks,
I am pretty sure that my question here has appeared often enough, but I can search here in the forum simply can not operate.
Regardless s.welchem days I try, I always get results than a white page. So I ask for indulgence, that I probably here now for the umpteenth time the same question.
The following situation
I was actually a purchase of a Panasonic GS230 decided. Now I have the TV yesterday, but a small report on the advantages and disadvantages of miniDV, DVD, flash memory, etc. FullHD seen.
This report has me a little confused, which my purchase is concerned.
I would like to see like a camera to buy, where I still synonymous in a couple of years off have fun. I am an absolute beginner and with the matter still not really familiar. What advantages does actually FullHD? I read only Resolutions of 1920 x something.
Short and almost: I would want to spend 500 euros. Will I need something better than a Panasonic GS230?
Can I perhaps someone - without sprinkle with expertise - a small recommendation, or whether I pronounce with the GS230 going the wrong way?
I am grateful
Thomas
Antwort von thos-berlin:
As the entertainment industry is now at the same rate as the PC field, can be difficult to say what in a few years.
There are currently no mE in SD area (ie "normal" recording in the TV standard), even in HDV memory techniques, the so ausgreift and so unproblemtisch processed, such as DV tapes. This can be done in one or two years be different ....
In addition, all recording formats, the tape does not have much more compact so that the same recording time is reached. Example from the SD area. A 60 minutes DV tape is 12-13 GB on the hard drive. 12cm A normal DVD holds 4.7 GB with 60-120, so the whole thing to about 1 / 3-1 / 6. Compression means and omission means always synonymous computational effort and rounding losses during processing. HDV works with the same bands at the same recording time. As more resolution is available, must be more compressed.
The fewest compatibility issues with current best SD camcorder with MiniDV tape and firewire port. This brings all PCs and all video editing programs to cope.
HDV is synonymous in my view only be meaningful when you get in the foreseeable future synonymous associated playback devices (large-format flat screen or projector) want to purchase. The average PC has more unequal than for DV and players are still not really in production. Advantage of HDV tape recorders is that they usually have a Downconvert after SD via firewire have. Thus, the recordings in HDV and it can (slonge it has no other devices) as a normal DV tape and play s.PC edit.
My personal tip (subject to change):
Buy the Panasonic. In 5 years you'll get the next Camera SOWISO need and then you should again take what at the time it is mature.
Antwort von Kinderbutt:
Hello thos-berlin,
Thank you for your detailed reply.
Therefore a Panasonic 106cm plasma, I have already. I have a fairly synonymous current and leistunsfähigen Calculator
Intel C2D E6850
4GB RAM
For DV editing should be so in any case just enough. The camera is to this that we in the family want to film something. Especially the dog when he rages in the garden, sometimes at a ceremony and the usual stop. All things I am very happy to synonymous something quality. I had my time a GS27 borrowed, but with their quality, I was not totally satisfied. The picture was extremely noisy and looked dull and pale.
Your statement confirms me in that I am at with miniDV tape will land, so if I have understood correctly.
The GS230, I have now in the network at a price of around 380 euros found.
I ask the question again: Is it for the money at the moment something better or would you say to me as a different model suggest? I like to put 100 euros on it, if it is then synonymous pay off and pay.
I thank you
Thomas
Antwort von thos-berlin:
The camera has good test results delivered. It takes the classic PAL format 16:9 and 4:3 (720x576) on the DV tape that is not HDV Camera. Thus, perhaps on your giant-Television Picture the slightly blurred effect, just as all PAL sources (standard television).
Maybe you can yes the camera give it a try.
Get pray for the transfer to PC a Firewire cable, if it is not included. The dubbing via USB is not always smooth and always requires additional software and driver installation.
If you are in relation to your existing television HDV but want to do, so you should seek a model, based on
DV tape and record via firewire synonymous a Downconvert can output (eg, of Sony).
So it is possible to you that matters (for the non-HDV serviced friends and relatives) in "normal" Quallität to cut and (later) for you and which supplies an HDV HDV version. A friend of me does the same way.
Since I am not from the HDV group, I can have the exact Fortgnag after a processing s.PC say nothing. I ask you, the following points to consider. Perhaps there is someone here with appropriate experience.
I Erachtensist there currently does not simply pass on HDV material. The playback works only if the camera connects directly s.einen Television (if the connections are available), or the watch via a PC (possibly connected with that big screen TV). Stand-Alone Player HDV are not yet so common (eg: Blue-ray) as the car and ring a HDV disc exactly is going on, I can not judge.
Antwort von Daigoro:
I ask the question again: Is it for the money at the moment something better or would you say to me as a different model suggest? I like to put 100 euros on it, if it is then synonymous pay off and pay.
I do not think that the money for something better there.
The filming in HD, which is still with you s.ehesten worth begins to be at 750 (Canon HV10) or the 900 (Canon HV20 - here is the much praised).
If you do not spend so much can / want, but they are always turned off.
In addition, you should be in your budget a bit more synonymous Zubehoer schedule, as are the 100-200 euro synonymous away fairly quickly:
Bands, of course, a second larger battery (quiet of other manufacturers such as Canon or Ansmann), a pouch for transport is in most cameras are not synonymous and a tripod (around 100 euros - the cheap for 25-30 euros are really not recommended ), of course, synonymous.
Antwort von K.Bean:
I would like to sincerely thank for the answers.
I have this morning ordered the GS230 and it was synonymous already s.mich shipped. I'm really very excited the first results.
Again many thanks
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... But if you want to do HDV, so you should seek a model, based on DV tape and record via firewire synonymous a Downconvert can output (eg, of Sony). Completely true, but not synonymous so hard to meet on DV tape (only MiniDV, which still follows the standard size) are in principle all HDV camcorder on, and an internal conversion to DV prior to the issue provides the best of my knowledge all the latest HDV synonymous -- camcorder.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Jan:
Did you even a GS 230 Picture s.einem LCD or Plasma Television seen? I did because I worked every day with 30 cameras and 80 LCD & Plasma TV together.
I'm not sure whether Thomas with the 414,720 Camera Plasma s.seinem the true joy that it has no preference whether it is the GS 60 or the GS 500 is.
I would apologize for Canon HV 10 decided it was the Lowlightbild is not a bomb, but it just fits better as your television, then nothing must be large scale. With a little luck, a DVD Recorder & Player (I do not know what Thomas has daheim) the PAL recordings inflate properly.
Perhaps like the Picture of Thomas GS 230-s.TV look ....
VG
Jan
Antwort von clicki:
I will say something about tomorrow, since I only synonymous camera can pick up tomorrow. I was at the time of service a few days in the field and have the card in the mailbox yesterday found.
But I'm really excited.
I have here as synonymous read through some threads. This seems very high expertise s.Start to be, if I may judge times.
The Cam does for me no real high-tech images, what it probably does not always synonymous. Times but I think that the results for my situation will be satisfactory. But I just know tomorrow.
As a DVD player, I have a Panasonic S53 and the TV is a Panasonic TH 42 PV60.
Sounds hard now after advertising, but I have a nunmal Fimmel for the company, because I very good experiences with it have sometimes synonymous and the service had to take what smoothly. So I ask for leniency if I take this company is now a few have mentioned. I say this because many times in other forums do not like something seen. But I find synonymous Harman / Kardon (DTS facility) and Denon really great;)
Greeting
Thomas
