Frage von schwenkerfilm:
Hello!
I have already made several amateur films with digital ner SonyTVR, ball-Microphone for sound, keep the equipment that could be somehow muster in our "film crew" with.
I now synonymous movies birthdays, weddings, etc. and wants to equip myself properly now.
Camera: thought so s.XL series of canon, or comparable models from other companies. Is that reasonable and adequate? What exactly does that mean 3CCD?
Sound: For filming, the camera itself but s.der Micro ungeeinet more. Which Micro you recommend me, I decided on the above mentioned models?
Light: I had somehow always been enough. What fits, and you should buy for above mentioned camera itself?
Editor: I had purchased some years ago EZDV capture card (250 Eu). Do not work now with the cheap EzEdit, but with Media Studio.Geht me due to lack of quality of the card when capturing good film quality loss, which I recorded through the good new coming? What do you recommend it?
Thank you very much,
Volker
Antwort von ludwig.s:
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Antwort von prem:
Great tip, great tip, great tip ....
Antwort von schwenkerfilm:
If jmd but would have the kindness to answer me kindly to my question or give a specific link, because there is nothing I think I would be very grateful.
Why are there people in every forum, millers always just out of boredom?
Antwort von prem:
Please bang you this book:
http://beitinger.de/richtig_videos_filmen.html
Although of 2004 and is therefore not up to date (keyword HDV), but your questions are answered in detail therein.
Antwort von schwenkerfilm:
Hello!
I have already made several amateur films with digital ner SonyTVR, ball-Microphone for sound, keep the equipment that could be somehow muster in our "film crew" with.
I now synonymous movies birthdays, weddings, etc. and wants to equip myself properly now.
Camera: thought so s.XL series of canon, or comparable models from other companies. Is that reasonable and adequate? Thought so in Gebrauchtberecih 1500-2000 Eu.
Sound: For filming, the camera itself but s.der Micro ungeeinet more. Which Micro you recommend me, I decided on the above mentioned models?
How do you do it with respect Toangel and Micro? Funk?
Light: I had somehow always been enough. What fits, and you should buy for above mentioned camera itself?
Editor: I had purchased some years ago EZDV capture card (250 Eu). Do not work now with the cheap EzEdit, but with Media Studio.Geht me due to lack of quality of the card when capturing good film quality loss, which I recorded through the good new coming? What do you recommend it?
Thank you very much,
Volker
Antwort von Debonnaire:
Hello!
I would have exactly what you're looking for: The
Sony DSR-200AP Professional Camcorder, DVCAM, PAL, 3 CCD, having shoulder zum Bild
Antwort von Markus:
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Antwort von schwenkerfilm:
Hello!
Thanks, but I've got a good deal for ne shoulder camera that is me but a little too big.
Just as I have now found that the xl1 is synonymous very unwieldy.
But thanks anyway and - give me info! :)
Thank you,
Volker
Antwort von Markus:
In this case, the question would be how you "defined it a professional camera"? The Canon XL-Series Consumer and says Your financial framework does synonymous.
My tip would be to SonyVX2100. Which delivers incredible images and is with the best and brightest, what's currently in the consumer camp. But that is synonymous Consumer - and already is beyond the financial framework.
Shoulder Camera is as real to me in the consumer camp, only the VX9000 known, but is now synonymous somewhat older.
Antwort von Vaderle:
Take a Canon XL2, plus a Canon DM-50 directional microphone and the matching coat windscreen of Rovotech. As one Tripod Sachtler DV1, Manfrotto 501 kit, etc. Thus you have a good basic equipment.
If you ask more demanding s.den sound, you need to read a directional microphone with Angel, cable (or radio link) and, of course, a wizard who holds the hook.
For further details apply the above book recommendation.
Antwort von Jan:
Hello you,
I would join the previous speaker just changed a little:
Canon XM 2
Sennheiser MKE 300 directional micro - if there is plenty of budget then MA 300 + XLR Micro
Would be - if desired photo Canon Flash 430 EX (If Canon Digi SLR eg 350 d or 30 D since it could be used synonymous here.)
Sachtler DV 1 is good but not synonymous with good 500 ¬ cheap - I would with a smaller budget a little cheaper Manfrotto trying to snatch ""
Zoomfernbedienung ZR 1000 would be a consideration in order to control zoom or focus from the tripod to
Battery BP 945
nice bag or Lowepro ala Canon HC 4100 Case
WW 0.7 x Converter WD 58 H
Better still, it is 2 camcorder when shooting a wedding
- The first Master Shot - Ceremony / Speeches
- The second in front of the guests
Mark's Favorite VX 2100 with similar accessories would of course still a little bit better, but still more expensive synonymous.
LG
January
Antwort von thommi1980:
The Sennheiser probably gives slightly better quality than the Canon DM-50, but the latter is directly connected via accessory shoe, and with electricity supply, ie there is no dangling cables or worrying about the life of the battery. Both I find very convenient in use (2 worry less). In addition, the Canon, if necessary you can switch to stereo.
The Sachtler DV1 is really expensive, but high quality and has usden advantage that its damping synonymous works at very low temperatures yet. Due to the fixed damping one must not play around a long time to get vertical and horizontal cushioning in harmony. What I miss is a choice of multiple attenuation () only when there is much more expensive models Sachtler.
A good alternative in terms of quality are the fluid head Velbon video tripod, which are also much lighter.
The Manfrotto heads (501, etc.) that are not quite ran, but they are okay. Comparison in the direct way, I found the little 700s as good as the big 501er. That astonished me, because the 700s at first glance looks like a cheap head.
Zoomfernbedienung ZR1000 is a very good tip, I had completely forgotten. Of course, synonymous only worthwhile if you often shoots from the tripod.
Flash I find unnecessary. (Either one is filming or photographing it, both at the same generally goes in the pants, and the XM2 is synonymous no marked Stillimage camcorder).
WW-converter, I would not buy synonymous. The XM2 has (unlike the XM1) had a decent wide-angle. Too much wide Anglesieht from unnatural and possibly as the effect is good in hip-hop videos. ;)
Antwort von thommi1980:
1500 - 2000 Euro for the camera limits the framework of an already clear. That leaves really only the Canon XM2 (very good cam, with great images that have synonymous well on ebay) or SonyVX2100 (no idea what it is because the Gebrauchtmarktpreise).
In any case, I would, since you have apparently often indoors, reckon a wide-angle converter (the WD 58 H is great for the XM2 and the photographs do not see the whole and not for Hip Hop Video from - I have the almost exclusively on it) and one synonymous good tripod, and make it more dynamic, perhaps even schedule 'ne Steadycam. With Tripod I mean one with fluidgelagertem head - everything else is unsuitable for hinzubekommen clean pans (the already mentioned Manfrotto would be a good example).
Otherwise, the boundaries are, of course, is infinite, but I think for the ambitious film-maker that is a good start - HDV, DVCPro HD, etc. are indeed the better format, but unfortunately synonymous considerably more expensive at the moment.
Greeting
January
Antwort von schwenkerfilm:
Hello!
Thank you for your Tips.Haben'm really weitergeholfen.
Everyone always talks of the converters - and I'm always with ner hobby Digi-Kam filmed and is therefore still no clue.
If by chance jmd s link (with pictures, photographs) that could make me realize the differences between the standard-XM2-Lens and the "hip-Lens" zb:)
Did you happen to remember s Council regarding light for Kam ready?
@ Jan: 2 cameras are top, iss clear ;-). But then it must surely have had 2 identical, or at least the same resolution?
Thank you folks,
Volker
Antwort von thommi1980:
If by chance jmd s link (with pictures, photographs) that could make me realize the differences between the standard-XM2-Lens and the "hip-Lens" zb:) The converter is draufgeschraubt on the Lens and brings about the factor of 0.7 over wide angle. Comparison images would not bring much to you, or you can make yourself.
Antwort von thommi1980:
2 cameras are top, iss clear ;-). But then it must surely have had 2 identical, or at least the same resolution? All PAL camcorder to film in the same resolution (720 x 576 pixels). It was only with the HDV Resolutionetwas higher.
Antwort von schwenkerfilm:
Hmm, issn argument. But then ne sau stupid question:
What is the point at ner good came to the 2000 Eu, which makes them better quality in my ggs SonyHandycam?
Antwort von beiti:
Just because the Resolutionidentisch is in the image quality can still be worlds apart.
Antwort von schwenkerfilm:
Makes sense:).
But I jo said - that it should at Filmerein with 2 Kams already have 2 identical, because if I film with my hobby SonyTVR 235e and ne to have parallel XM2, will it look well shit.
Antwort von beiti:
Even with 2 identical camcorders differences may occur, if they have different set s.Werk. We see most clearly the differences s.der color temperature (white balance operating point). With a little fiddling and a set of color correction filters but it can be two different preset camcorder take on the same white balance. If you use only a few shots of the other camera, you can customize the colors synonymous still in the editing software.
The possible existing differences in the sharpness fall in practice less - as long as you aneinanderschneidet not almost identical image areas. So if, for example, make a list with the "good" camera and then cuts to a closeup, which with the "bad" camera was made, which falls within the rules rather than - as long as the color performancepaßt.
EDIT: I had not thought that most of the cheaper Sonys do not have a manual white balance. Then you can adjust the recordings only retrospectively.
Antwort von thommi1980:
It will be seen with certainty that it was filmed with 2 different cameras, but the shit does not necessarily look like.
If there is good light to make the most of the "little ones" so synonymous quite usable photos, just in case it is slightly darker (as with private parties to be expected,) the difference is dramatic.
In Xpress Pro synonymous's a pretty cool feature to align clips with regard to differences in color together so that others can see immediately. Spells can not synonymous, of course, but it works really well within limits.
The point with a good (3 chip) camera is simple,
1. The chips are usually larger than in the small (and therefore more sensitive to light synonymous use in darker areas too) and
2. one stop 3 chips for the basic colors red, green and blue, instead of all at one.
It can be seen especially in the Color performanceeinen drastic difference and synonymous terms of looks (the XM2 with proper handling must not necessarily) may appear immediately after you create video for the larger more easily.
The Resolutionist while actually irrelevant, because that is all the same mini-DV cameras (namely SD, ie standard definition) and the number of pixels of the chip is synonymous irrelevant - if it's going after, would have lost the XM2 against Manchester 1 Chipper, but This is, of course, Quark.
If you want more, you just have to grab an HD camcorder (which then have a higher resolution)
Greeting
January
Antwort von beiti:
The truth about the Resolutionist that exploit even good 3-chip camcorder, the maximum PAL Resolutionnicht. One must only look at snapshots of various camcorders in their original resolution and then compared with the same average runterskalierten photos from digicams.
Antwort von schwenkerfilm:
Many many thanks to people who have helped me a lot.
'll Probably annoy you next in the near future, well, what needs to learn ...:)
Daneke,
Volker
Antwort von Jan:
The truth about the Resolutionist that exploit even good 3-chip camcorder, the maximum PAL Resolutionnicht. One must only look at snapshots of various camcorders in their original resolution and then compared with the same average runterskalierten photos from digicams. I prefer to keep my mouth shut, which probably leads to the same outcome as the conflict of Professors number of pixels, but a digital camera in Comparison to an analogy would have as to how wild and Lens ISO numbers compared pairs of lines.
The class then to 2000 ¬ can conjure up a very good (almost perfect) Pal-Picture ala XM 2 or VX 2100 I do believe in simpler 3 CCD ala Consumerpanas especially the stability, I agree with Digi.
A manual white balance, each current MiniDV Sonygenau as JVC, Canon or Pana, probably was meant endweder the free shutter speed priority, that is correct - there Sonylegt no value on it, and tried in accordance with the design programs to meet the customer - the camera so not too complicated to do.
If the hold / storage was meant, the only s.der gibts synonymous with Canon XL 2 And that is not much of consumer model is more, even the XM 2 has described the hold / store yet ..
LG
January
Antwort von beiti:
A manual white balance, each current MiniDV Sonygenau as JVC, Pana or Canon, The current models already, but Sonyhatte omitted the manual white balance on many earlier models, and it was always synonymous criticized in the trade journals, and there were only a "Hold" function called, but it was not a real manual white balance, but only the current Automatic value fix. That concerns the cheaper DV camcorder and all D8 models. As there is a TVR 235e (I think was an older model D8) I found the information important.
Antwort von schwenkerfilm:
Hello!
That is, the XM 2 has no manual white balance?
That's stupid sau ..
gruß,
volk
Antwort von PowerMac:
Hello!
That is, the XM 2 has no manual white balance?
That's stupid sau ..
gruß,
volk No..
Antwort von Hogar:
I do not know now whether the "No" of PowerMac rather that meant:
"No, the XM2 has no manual white balance."
or this:
"No, you're wrong, the XL2 has a manual white balance."
The second is of course true. Of course, the XL2 has a manual white balance. Where would we be there ... with semi nem 3Chipper, even took the RTL for News ...
Hogar
Antwort von beiti:
My remarks referred only to low-cost camcorder of Sony. The XM2 has of course) Manual White Balance (synonymous vollmanuelle exposure, turn-off gain, manual level control, zebra and other professional functions.
Antwort von Jan:
A manual white balance, each current MiniDV Sonygenau as JVC, Canon or Pana, probably was meant endweder the free shutter speed priority, that is correct - there Sonylegt no value on it, and tried in accordance with the design programs to meet the customer - the camera so not too complicated to do.
If the hold / storage was meant, the only s.der gibts synonymous with Canon XL 2 And that is not much of consumer model is more, even the XM 2 has described the hold / store yet ..
That I had written: see above
The manual white balance already, but the hold / store / Lock does not work until the s.XL 2nd
In each prospectus Canon / Canon Gesammtkatalog 2006, I (think Page 65 (yes I've read so far determined 8x and now know the majority) or the Internet is das
Sonynennt the white balance function hold.
Canon. Com @ Beiti: Welcome Beiti, beautiful present that another experienced filmmakers at Slashcam.
PS: By "other" I did not mean me - JVC Professional
LG
January
Antwort von beiti:
@ Jan
What Sonywith called "Hold", is somewhat more primitive than the manual white balance. For example, my uncle has an approximately 5 years old of Sony Mini-DV (ask me now, not what the model), definitely not mastered the manual white balance, but only 4 WB-known positions: Auto, Daylight, Incandescent, and just "hold" .
In the current models (I think since about 2 years) has responded Sonyauf years of criticism and now finally makes the real manual white balance, which were formerly located at Sonynur in the 3-chip models.
The special s.der XL2 as I know that it offers 3 presets for the White Balance, and the XM2 has only one.
Antwort von Markus:
The truth about the Resolutionist that exploit even good 3-chip camcorder, the maximum PAL Resolutionnicht. One must only look at snapshots of various camcorders in their original resolution and then compared with the same average runterskalierten photos from digicams. For video recordings, the Color 4:2:0-compressed, while not made with the digital photos in this species. Illustrated by the less sharp color video still pictures can be easily distinguished of digital photos.
Learn More:
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Blue Screen Fabric (4:2:0-compression of DV)
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Technology: 3CCD vs. 1CCD (ditto)
Antwort von Jan:
Hello you,
I think with hold (so VideoaktivDigital calls it, has, according to the VAD no Sony Consumer - I think it is the same as Lock / storage
) / Store / Lock (Canon / Sony name) is probably meant to store one or more specific comparisons to white, which can really only for Canon XL 2 Yes, the Sonyist with a good chance the current synonymous SonyHC 23 is thank God it possible to perform a manual white balance. This has to go to 2 Menu / White balance / Direct / white leaf and ready.
Gesammtkatalog In 2006, the Canon XL H 1 / L 2, / XM 2 description on Page 94 - including the lock / memory function, as I had in mind at ease verblättert ....
Beiti - my expression about you, was not meant in a negative!
LG
January
Antwort von beiti:
My expression about you, was not meant in a negative! I had not thought synonymous. :)
