Frage von tehaix:
Good lunch,
Now of course I could mention that I have been here about a year reading and looking, but I'm not the type who ... oh, whoops. Crap.
Uh, yes.
Substance:
I am looking really been over a year after a new camera. Did the idea of intervening three times re-opened and discarded, it simply fails s.finanziellen.
Yes, I like movies, but I was technically still studying for another career decided (Communication Studies). However I will continue to operate the Filmerei.
I would describe themselves as beginners. I film for 7 years now, but over the years with a Panasonic NV-DS33. This is "annoying".
Since the batteries slowly abandon the spirit, and I'm tired, focus, shutter and so next on a 1cm-wheel under a masking set forth to be something new.
Oh, and stuff will be cut substantially with Pinnacle Studio 10 plus operated since it could be made synonymous switching. If this somehow relevant. Or if I absolutely SHOULD go. Until now, the Filmerei in the field of short films (under 20 minutes), a major project (Abistreich: /) and various other small projects (of stupid fun videos to interviews) offering.
Good requirements s.die Cam:
I'm looking for a camera Henkel (was four months VX1000 in use, just to see how I am with something klarkomme. Has worked reasonably well (: Was not only my but my volunteer job). The one Picture is expected to be good, so that should already be irrelevant.
It is important that I focus on things like white balance, shutter, aperture etc fast access, because I finally want to work properly. A 16:9 format would be nice, but I read that (especially for older Cams) the picture is just stretched, and it was better, in retrospect, the 16:9-look "dazuzubescheißen":) Also nice would be the possibility by the zoom lens ring to use, but only if it is synonymous working fast enough. If this is not the case, it is synonymous straight no preference. Sound should be possible, "delivered" Micro rich, but there is of course the chance to upgrade later (if the option exists to XLR).
Technically, I would like to film with the Cam: Nature photography (Scheiss just the usual), music videos and short films spin. An "acceptable" LowLight behavior would be desirable, but as I have with my camera of course, not necessarily an asset held in the hand did, I will probably have the only other best Camera hew down.
A big question has always asked me: Is the transition to HDV? Expensive one by the whole occasion even next. However, I would not be in a year look into the tube. In particular, what this issue is concerned, I need urgent advice.
And now the topic on which I am ridiculous doing the asking price.
Since I need to buy a laptop, I always s.meinem purse Nibbler, I have the finances as low as possible.
A price window of 1500-2000 ¬ is the absolute maximum, which could rausholen: (
Yes, I know quality costs, but perhaps there is something suitable.
I hope I covered you with this question is not too much on the nerves. About help me I would look.
Greeting ausm south
Antwort von PowerMac:
HV30 with good Manfrotto Tripods and WW.
Antwort von tehaix:
Good, the times I had not envisaged.
What is there with the manual intervention into the action from? At first glance, yes it looks more like a fully automatic cam from, but probably (most likely) delivers a first class picture.
Will I still times closer with the company thing.
Ah, tripod I have. Certainly not the best, but for my rights has so far served. Or let's say it this way: As long as it still works, I will buy no other. If a Cullmann 3150 or so.
Antwort von PowerMac:
Throw away the old Tripod. Thus you can not swing. It is ludicrous to imagine a new camera to buy and then such a shaky Scheiss to use. Your pictures are cleaner, more informed and pans much softer, so far with you over the old Tripod've ever operated.
Antwort von tehaix:
ÖH, ok.
Harsh words, but I guess you sometimes as experienced user. Direction I, yes.
Good, I did not, of course, the direct comparison. What is a "decent" Manfrotto Tripods understand, and in what price range is moving it? That I will still go through your head can have.
Because clearly, I had my problems with the thing, but if you really dampens the head and a little tact shows were still in it at least acceptable pans.
Antwort von Meggs:
The HV 30 met practically no your requirements. Henkelmann No, no quick access to manual settings, poor sound and not very sensitive to light.
He is an HDV camcorder and can be 16:9, that's it.
You have already correctly identified himself, HDV is more expensive. The VX1000 has fallen to you. How comparable would be the new Canon XM2 or SonyVX2100 in SD area, or the Canon A1 in the HD area.
Antwort von Markus73:
Hello,
times as small, somewhat provocative supplement relating to Tripod:
I work with a Cullmann 3100 Cullmann Video with head (because I recently have received favorable needed): Since wobble absolutely nothing that is Tripod (at least with my small and light Panasonic Camera) and fixed verwindungsstabil, soft and smooth pans I get out so well.
If necessary, I would buy something better, but see no need for it.
Regards,
Markus
Antwort von tehaix:
If I like that.
Basically the course is fair enough. If you are a car with a strong engine and gearbox shitty buys, is not synonymous permanently happy.
Since I am with the Tripod has come so far but clearly am and also (more importantly) must save money, a new acquisition in this area like synonymous wait.
Nevertheless, I would be interested to know of what Manfrotto for what price is offered?
Back to the Camera.
VX2100 and XM2 I obviously synonymous already viewed. Reinhartshausen handling of her looks interesting from the XM2, visual technology, the vx2100 ahead. Moreover, the latter would have the ability to zoom and focus s.Lens to use. How fast does the camera zoom?
However, here of course the big question, whether it is worth even a DV Camera to buy. One died in the format. I have so far only one person in the circle, except on an HD television has. So it is a balancing.
The A1 looks great, although I believe they are the areas with console programming etc something beyond my abilities. Sure, something can be learned, but the price is moving somewhat beyond my ideas ... :)
What about Cams Used with purchase? Principle of the finger, or a preview?
Antwort von Meggs:
XM2 I have 4 years now, and am overall very satisfied. You get it now for about 1800 ¬, Siel iegt be renegotiated within your budget. The VX2100 is light sensitive, has the zoom ring, but a weaker zoom. And it is more expensive. The A1 is the HD successor to the XM2, with more controls and XLR connectors. It meets all your requirements, but cost over 3000 ¬.
Used goods - depends. Personally, I think the most used XM2 or VX2100 far too expensive. Strangely, all allegedly almost never used - what you do not control.
The question of whether you still invest in SD, it must all be answered for himself. What is dear to you - a consumer device like the HV30, the good light conditions for a good HD picture taking, but somewhere else with your current camcorder is similar to a semi Henkelmann in Pal-resolution, or increasing your budget to Canon A1 or SonyFX1 level?
Antwort von tehaix:
Well, that's the big question that must be answered.
I obviously synonymous in the field of HD Henkel men around. Blos is because I know only FX1 and FX7 away near my budget.
What these devices are still a question: In DV can record it, yes. Do I need to make concessions but synonymous, say, compared to VX2100 and XM2? Apart from the price times.
Oh curses, the question should be someone to answer ... : ((So after the "HD" or not)
Antwort von Meggs:
Do I need to make concessions but synonymous, say, compared to VX2100 and XM2? Apart from the price times.
In the light sensitivity compared with the VX2100 may already. However, they are in 16:9 mode, probably better. Maybe really the best for you. The calculated down to SD HD Picture is very good.
Antwort von High_Tension:
Well, that's the big question that must be answered.
I obviously synonymous in the field of HD Henkel men around. Blos is because I know only FX1 and FX7 away near my budget.
What these devices are still a question: In DV can record it, yes. Do I need to make concessions but synonymous, say, compared to VX2100 and XM2? Apart from the price times.
Oh curses, the question should be someone to answer ... : ((So after the "HD" or not) I would s.Deiner office to ask whether HD makes sense for you. That means if you plan in the near future, to produce the films in this Resolutionanschauen you want / can. ME may be useful in SD to invest vswegen price.
With an HD-Cam, however, recorded in SD is like owls before swine cast (or rather wear pearls to Athens?). Then prefer the program editing of HD to SD runterkonvertieren.
From my experience I can look at the highly XM2 heartily ... and the XH-A1 still a lot warmer ... From the picture quality is there but a huge difference. Sony would be on site in SD viell. another segment PD150 / PD170 to consider (without knowing exactly what the cost).
Antwort von domain:
Good lunch,
.. but I'm not the type who ... oh, whoops. Crap. Uh, yes.
And now the topic on which I make myself ridiculous .....
Ridiculous you do not so directly, but if you have one years mitliest, you should have been at least an inkling of it, whether in DV or HD film wants.
If this issue is resolved times, there is no better medium than the Internet for general product information including experience in forums and then it can really only very specific questions .......
Antwort von baststar:
saving a little, lend thee ne cam and later give you the xh a1;) otherwise you are not satisfied later vllt
yes can wait to collect ideas about what you still want to film everything ... vllt then you realize yourself how much money you want to spend, so how important to you after the cam is ...
so gehts mir grad is synonymous .. I want the synonymous xh a1, but as a student is difficult to achieve
Antwort von raymaker:
HV30/HV20.
Although almost nothing of your criteria - is still the determination Camera to 1500 ¬. There is simply no debate.
And there is almost every disadvantage tricks s.denen already successful people have tried.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Did almost nothing of your criteria, but the determination ... Camera ... no debate ... You're not random occupation of used car seller? ;-)
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von raymaker:
... Did almost nothing of your criteria, but the determination ... Camera ... no debate ...
You're not random occupation of used car seller? ;-)
Gruß Bernd E. No.. But there is nunmal cameras in your area the competition away. That is up to 2000 ¬ the HV20/HV30. Up to 2500 ¬ would be probably the FX1, up to 4000 ¬ the XH-A1.
Antwort von tehaix:
Here's an update.
First, a "thank you" s.viele useful contributions, and the less useful synonymous were somehow entertaining:)
I've more or less by chance, a relatively cheap (but discarded) FX1 get into the finger. Device is perfect, and I'm glad I finally did what I wanted. Fortunately you have to have sometimes.
Now, however, I am looking for a safe transportation option for the device. Careful handling is top priority. I had first of all, the Sony carrying case envisaged. Have a few buyers read reviews of the synonymous were all quite satisfied.
Here in the forum, I have noticed that on many Lowepro etc. set. So, my question is whether the Cam, which is itself quite large, with accessories such as a Lowepro Omni Traveler would fit.
It is important to me that the Cam synonymous WITHOUT suitcase well to shocks, etc. protected.
What keeps you handle your man so on?
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Look at times
http://www.auberge-tv.com/Cases/Home.html
at. Alternative is intended to Peli Cases (in the U.S. are currently very cheap .... synonymous with / after tax and Inch)
Otherwise, if it fits, I recommend you LoewePro DryZone, I did for the cameras to go fishing with it always.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Pillermännchen:
Habs just yesterday in another forum posted:
http://www.tamrac.com/5577.htm
More does not need a man.
Here is precious to some junk sometimes a struggle out of religious beliefs ( "you
always buy bags of ..../ for a bag must be
at least XXX - spend ....).
Especially since 95% of the posters here is with shots of Omis Birthday satisfied, but have more stuff than the venerable Dr. Grzimek on his expeditions.
Jens
Antwort von tehaix:
Hey, this thing looks so great. And it is much cheaper than I thought. Somehow when the part was for me he capita also have a 320 ¬-brand anchors.
Is the cam in my backpack somewhat protected against surges? If so, I ordered the thing posthumously:)
Danke schon mal.
Antwort von Pillermännchen:
Is the cam in my backpack somewhat protected against surges? Absolutely.
This will require a disaster can not be better.
And after two years of use, I see no synonymous wear such as frayed or broken zippers material.
For me the way, is synonymous with an FX1 all accessories (including Charger and Sennheiser MKE 300) inside.
The only disadvantage is the thing:
The backpack straps are very thick and stiff. When wearing a backpack no problem; is even somewhat comfortable.
Only if the backpack as a camera bag s.Henkel to be used, the bulky protruding somehow things always in your way.
Better would have been, you could remove them and in some of the many pockets stow.
But I am not sure whether Kata & Co. offer these features.
Antwort von tehaix:
That sounds very good.
One last question: Is it possible, in a backpack a 13 "notebook stow? Somehow? It's in its neon-Gimp-shell, is very well protected.
Antwort von Pillermännchen:
In addition to fat FX1? Hard to say .......
If it was inside edge, maybe.
But then you have to really even try.
With ebay, the backpack of the shop now for 199, - Eur
propose or price offered. As can be determined yet what to do.
Test times with 180, --
Because yes, you have right of return.
I definitely was surprised of the quality.
Jens
Antwort von Bernd E.:
Ebay ... ... In experiment 180 times with ,-... For this price you do not have time to go through ebay: we get the Tamrac synonymous in the "normal" mail.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Pillermännchen:
Yes, in this example:
http://www.rucksack.de/rubriken/artikel.php?artikel=19100067&campaign=ide/tamrac
Antwort von B.DeKid:
** Note ** Bzgl Outdoor Products
Products and LoewePro Kata Tamrac may be preferable.
In the outdoor area is ALWAYS on the highest quality to be respected.
.................................................. .................................................. ....
So much for
religious beliefs .... fight ... ;-)
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von tehaix:
So, I have now for the Lowepro Vertex 200 decided.
Tamrac strongly resembles the moves synonymous priced in the same region, but he still has a compartment for laptop - handy for me.
Also I like the colors better, extremely important: D
But many thanks for the advice. With their help, I ultimately found this model. I hope I go so well.
Now let me just clean the lens glass and a protective screw-filter - and then it can finally begin.
Initial tests at home already make much more fun than with my old Panasonic:)
Again a thank you s.allen Anteilnehmenden. I will probably soon anyway with the next question Report.
Until then: Beautiful weekend!
