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Frage von uffnik1:


Hello,

I am a hobby film and want to learn more from my make ton.
I have a T. Bone em9600 s.der angel with windfell etc. which I always direct jz up with a jack adapter into the camera gestekt have.
Since a few weeks now synonymous, I own a small mixer (5xlr and 5klinke inputs)
Since I have the sound was always very thin, since the micro-ja eh only absorbs directly to the front, I now consider the Micro + 3 Voice Microphones (40 ¬ for such a set at thomann) xlr ins on the mixer to run all s. to mix and then klinle via cable back into the camera. the 3 sprachmikors are therefore distributed s.set microphone stands and everything runs into the mixer? has this ever konzkrution distribute the ton? verbesert he? What did I do then? Stereo or surround? if as I suspect it is stereo, then how do I get to surround sound?

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Antwort von uffnik1:

or how and what to create sourround s.computer?

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Antwort von uffnik1:

I am still looking after einr antwort

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Antwort von Udo Schröer:

When everything is together again in the cam is running, you have stereo.

For DolbySurround, you need to get a Dolby encoder signals into Phasenversetzt can mix stereo signal.

For digital surround, you need to get an interface software that supports multichannel. Here you can with the various sound tracks and burn to DVD.

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Antwort von uffnik1:

okay, thanks.
then I prefer to stay in good stereo?
because it brings tonverbesserung IHC if the 3 spoke Mikros s.set spread and then judge everything with the micro abmixe together?

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Antwort von Udo Schröer:

If each Micro contains another voice is ok
If you are trying but with two microphones an AND the same record, it comes at different distances to runtime error.

If M1 and M2 only 30cm different distance from the object has the sound waves reach your Micro with 1ms offset which leads to an echo. In stereo, this is no problem as L + R h have different signals. Not for nothing, you can plant a delay s.Dolby set!

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Antwort von Max.3:

So I dachjt me so:

the main microbiological will, as usual s.der angel directly on the darts eller hold (let's say before the 3meter Camera 3m)
Now suppose I spent 2 srachmikros on a stand and connect it with the mixer on a 10m xlr to 6.3 mono jack kabel dan these microphones are each fairly distributed and left, maybe even with the full length (10m) then I would get nch problems?

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Antwort von Axel:

"Anonymous" wrote: So I dachjt me so:

the main microbiological will, as usual s.der angel directly on the darts eller hold (let's say before the 3meter Camera 3m)
Now suppose I spent 2 srachmikros on a stand and connect it with the mixer on a 10m xlr to 6.3 mono jack kabel dan these microphones are each fairly distributed and left, maybe even with the full length (10m) then I would get nch problems?


Definitely. Throughout the Sermon on the technical prerequisites for the 5.1 mix I drop off times. Otherwise the following applies synonymous for stereo, even for mono, we remain in Mono:
Until about 1990, mono-sound for movies, the rule (stereo was unfavorable because of the many seating positions in rooms not used, Magnetic was too expensive, Dolby Spectral Dolby SR, a calculated from stereo virtual surround, analog-only just been invented.) Mono did not mean that only one microphone was used. That space is already at the Studio by suitably arranged microphones would be reached, your mistake. It's about the feeling of space, and you get through the mixture of mono or stereo canning. A good sound mixing is something very artificial and complex.

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Antwort von Max.3:

Hello,

I forgot my t.bone em 9600 s.mein mixer (t.mix 1002) is connected (via XLR) and then a bit with the regern played on the headphones and I am directly connected to mixing s.das have heard everything in super. but if I use the mixer output connect with my camera (RCA to stereo mini jack into the microphone connector on the camera) I just höere terrible noise. whether it is in my room A tornado his aufjedenfall hardly anything of the language to hear.
Why is that? if I stad there Mikros a CD player because I ran hang synonymous at the Camera a great sound. only when the Micro is a powerful rushing it. And just have the stat IHC Kmaera my pc and the dvdrecord and connected on the same source and the same cable, I have a super quality. only at the micro s.Camera not. MD recorder could be a remedy that I use the mixer output so s.den hanging?

Ich bitte um hilfe!

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Antwort von Max.3:

synonymous if regler ale below, takes the camera is still a rush on.
I'm totally s.verzweifeln because I bought extra one to have better sound quality and now it just hisses.

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Antwort von eitlefilme:

Hello!

that this is because your mixing with POWER from the outlet operators - called the network humming.

You need a mixer with Batteries operate.

Incidentally, if you want to surround reality, and the DV editing dig. Surround (eg Adobe prem. 1.5 or 2) and you have a camera with 2 Tonspuraufnahmefähigkeit owns (eg Canon XL1) speaks so then nothing is to surround and times out. Plug the Micro Fork DIRECT s.die Camera (without mixer) and the mixer with the other mics s.die "rear" ie 2 Soundtrack. Then broke the only 4 channel to capture (ie with the normal soundtrack premiere and forming a tool and with the second soundtrack as the "poor" Premiere can not even theoretically both soundtracks in an AVI could be - but that is another history) and already you can surround work. - Forget the flap with no breeze to Syncronisieren!

mfg daniel

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Antwort von Max.3:

and what options I have if my only mixer with current from the wall outlet funtioniert?
and why is it the pc or dvd recorder is not so?

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Antwort von eitlefilme:

That's a good question. My technician has given me something with "50 Hz alternating voltage of phase".

The fact is that you have a hum when you hang something s.netz - sometimes louder quieter times.

My mixer has the possibility of batteriebettrieb (do not ask me what it costs)

as far as I understand it, the problem arises when two devices are connected with the network humming anything because of the neutral return.

daniel

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Antwort von Max.3:

okay, do you mean with a MD recorder would have the same problem?
So it has to do something so that pc and dvdrecord synonymous over the network to run exactly like the mixer, only the camera does not?

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Antwort von Eva Maier:

Emergency, you can look at a network filter around.

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Antwort von eitlefilme:

with mains filter, I have no idea. you can of course, a UPS using a PC that will easily spend 220. you only need to convince not to biepsen, then surely a few hours running on battery (screen with my webserver runs 2 hours on battery)

in short, stop you from network television with all the equipment and there are no problems. but I'm sure that a specialist knows more because when I

mfg ds

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