Frage von UlmsSkyliner:
Hello,
as some know I have a few weeks with a Panasonic NV GS 500 increased.
Now I wanted times s.alle NV GS 500 owners, the question whether it has been satisfied with the picture quality?
Thanks to its 3CCD technology, the colors so better "over", but I can not say that I am so excited of the picture quality when I times that with the Bildqualiät HV 20 of the comparison.
900 ¬ for NV GS 500 are indeed a very nice bite.
Now my question s.Euch since their satisfaction with the Camera?
How do I get the picture?
I am of the opinion that no great difference to the picture quality between my ¬ 200 and the camcorder NV GS 500 at AUSSENAUFNHAMEN is.
Inside, it is obviously better to classes.
MfG Chris
Antwort von Markus73:
Hello,
I myself do not use GS500, so I can not go along with your survey. A few comments I have but nevertheless:
Thanks to its 3CCD technology, the colors so better "over", but I can not say that I am so excited of the picture quality when I times that with the Bildqualiät HV 20 of the comparison. Logically, since you synonymous comparing apples with pears.
I am of the opinion that no great difference to the picture quality between my ¬ 200 and the camcorder NV GS 500 at AUSSENAUFNHAMEN is. At least with Panasonic, there is a distinct difference in image sharpness, visible and measurable, and even more clearly in Lowlight behavior. I have recordings of GS20, GS27 (both cheap Einchipper) and my GS180 (3CCD, of Picture can be compared with the GS500). Once synonymous, I had the recordings of the GS20 and GS180 mixed in a Project, the difference is so clear that I am not such a thing will make again.
Gruß,
Markus
Antwort von hmGast:
Hello,
as some know I have a few weeks with a Panasonic NV GS 500 increased. Now I wanted times s.alle NV GS 500 owners, the question whether it has been satisfied with the picture quality? S ... for me I can with a clear "Yes" answer, especially the 16:9 movies viewed on a LCD Television entsprchend inspire not only me but synonymous quite critical film amateurs. The movies I mostly landscapes and animals to bildfüllenden butterfly.
Regards
Herbert
Antwort von MNicklas:
The NVGS Cam is my first and I would buy me immediately if there are no HD should be. Super easy to use and great films. I see the movies on the wide-screen PC or 16:9 TV. If you just come from photographing the sharpness is really disappointing. Looking however at times s.and other amateur videos until you notice how sharp the films are in proportion. I have almost exclusively a wide-angle attachment draufgeschraubt, as with the series shows little lens. The Battery holds a very long time, the autonomous Matscher Weißabgeleich almost always fit. (If not I use the correct software before I spot with white sheets experiment). The oh-so hochgefeierte manual Fokusiermöglichkeit I've never used term only because I am blind to the small monitors to see where exactly is sharp. The photos are with 4MPixel scrap and only use it if you would otherwise have no other option. Because the 16:9 format for me the most is I have such a synonymous camera can now be purchased and whose images in the film racks. The only thing more annoying is the fumbling s.das power when connected with the charging station. But other cams, as the alternative to my upcoming Canon DC40 have so what did not. Reserve Battery I bought for 4 euros, holds 80% of it was original for less than 50% of the price is quite ok.
I can recommend.
Antwort von C.I.W:
So I mix my recordings of my GS 180 öffters with GS 500 pictures. One difference I do not see. What the Fokusrad the GS 500 refers to:
Complete scrap. It takes so many turns to adjust the focus of near to far to change.
Ds Fokusrad is synonymous is difficult to reach. The built in flash is greatly impeded. The Viewfinder is unfortunately synonymous much too small. For precise image assessment fit neither the display nor the viewfinders.
But otherwise, I can only recommend the Camera. If you are missing because of the headphone jack makes thoughts:
Simply enter a RCA jack adapter on the "3 cable RCA cable" and make the Headphones off.
Antwort von hmGast:
... What the Fokusrad the GS 500 refers to: Complete scrap. It takes so many turns to adjust the focus of near to far to change. Ds Fokusrad is synonymous is difficult to reach. The built in flash is greatly impeded. ... ... it comes at the subject, it often will I need only half a revolution. The fact that the built-in flash is located near the ring, really disturbed. WORKAROUND I created where I order the ring with a narrow, black rubber ring was placed. With one finger to the ring, I can now much easier to turn.
But otherwise, I can only recommend the Camera. If you are missing because of the headphone jack makes thoughts:
Simply enter a RCA jack adapter on the "3 cable RCA cable" and make the Headphones off. ... synonymous here was already in another thread described. Unfortunately the supplied cable is quite long, with several adapters and thus provide a relatively heavy.
Unfortunately I have still not found, the corresponding short cable with the same 3.5-jack would solder together.
@ CIW
Do you know someone there?
Regards
Herbert
Antwort von C.I.W:
No, unfortunately not, but it is synonymous not particularly difficult to have something in the art ever made. Such an adapter is synonymous but not really expensive.
Antwort von UlmsSkyliner:
Hello,
okay.
Now I have a few questions:
1) The NV-GS 500 is known to have an active accessory shoe.
Here I would like to attach a video light.
Could you call me good models?
It should not cost over 100 ¬.
2.)
Where can I get lens hoods / lens for Cam?
Is there a product which is to be recommended?
3) What did you use on the accessory shoe "sit"?
4) I've used threads / reports durchgestöbert and there is the image quality of the NV-GS 500 as described razor sharp.
I can not really understand.
Yes, the colors are good, having 3CCD technology, but I think the pictures really do not razor sharp and can be synonymous net claiming that the picture quality "cool" is.
Have I anything wrong?
I take the wrong tapes?
Could it be that I vllt. grad a "bad model" have caught that it is not so good picture quality is?
MfG Chris
Antwort von C.I.W:
Yes if your shots s.einen 4k projector anschaust it is clear that the images are no longer razor-sharp act. On the computer mekrt man synonymous the low resolution, but if your movies on a PAL TV look really sharp they should be.
Antwort von noname:
On the television, they are quite sharp.
On the computer, they are okay but not outstanding.
Believe that the image noise is evident s.PC Monitor
Antwort von C.I.W:
Yes, I have noticed synonymous. But cmos sensors can improve the noise suppression. I'm therefore an FX 7 to purchase. For 2500 ¬ would surely not a bad price.
Antwort von UlmsSkyliner:
Okay.
Could even ask other users who are in possession of a Panasonic NV GS 500 to give their opinion?
I read in the forum is always that of the Qualiät NV GS 500 is so great, I myself am not convinced.
Could it be that I have "a bad model" catch it?
I think the pictures not sharp, the colors are magnificent, but if I for example, at 17.00 a few more shots make that picture is as good as just noise.
Antwort von Jan:
I have about 1 year with her filmed, often had a smaller older Canon with it.
Lowlight When you have 300 ¬ with the almost exclusively black box, we often wanted to juxtapose the two - was not at all.
Sure there are better SonyFX 7 was with me the next - synonymous with Lowlight but only a bit better, and now PD 170 - comes with the SD in the field so synonymous only with a professional camera - Digibeta is still a class drüber.
I maintain time in the new class 700-800 ¬ SD and you will get nothing better than the GS 500, Canon MVX 4i was of very good picture yet, but is rather a difficult-to-use Autohochkantkamera.
For chip - the best consumer DV camcorder, Stiftung Warentest synonymous number 1 (12 camcorders were in the test), with a video asset, it is the number 4: 1 MVX 4i (69 points), 2nd GS 300 (68) 3. GS 250 (68) and 4 GS 500 (67), the number 1 video of the consumer, even before the Canon DM XM 2 - what I'm not 100% for them.
At the computer looks ever worse, half (GS 500) to Full (PC) and then the better resolution of your monitor - you will tend not to have 640x480?
The original video lamp VW LDC is 10 - but 10 watts is not really much - a lamp on the GS 500 power supply - so active I do not know, the Pana will probably have done so intentionally - infernally lamp needs a lot of power.
Hama has 30 watt bulb - Combi 30 W, but with an old fat Battery, Unomat what has the range - DC 3000, quite light but not dimmable.
Then come Anton Bauer Ultralight 2, Pagelight C 6, Panther Romy 75 and the Giants Bebob Lux (television favorite) and Dedo Weigert Dloba 2 - the target is synonymous thanks you tend not to the price for the 500th GS
VG
Jan
Antwort von soahC:
Hi. I got the 500s for a year synonymous and synonymous seeehr am happy with it. Hab was paid 800 ¬ and do not believe that one to see what gets better. The images may well be razor sharp, this is because the focus ring (which I admittedly somewhat but failed to find)!
And if you are at 17.00 clock noise, then I venture to say that you do not know Cam! I film concerts, you know where it is very dark, and noisy because absolutely nothing! Easy finger away from the gain!
Antwort von hannes:
Which one of you taken the arguments FOR the GS500 and the GS400?
The latter fact, I can get cheap (as 2.Camera)
Antwort von Jan:
As far as I know, neither of them took much of the picture, some said with new technology, the GS 500 Lowlight Picture a little better, this is the GS 400 but is better equipped with zb Farbblaken, zoom, etc. ...
Chris: you can check only 96 Peters favorite SonyHC watch, but more models in the top level because there is no longer up to Canon MVX 4i.
Yes go look at manual and look at the gain levels at 3,6,9,12 and 15 times closer to DB, when the car goes so mercilessly Camera DB at 18 still as bright as possible. The picture is not bright for gain reduction, but less noisy.
More does not stop in the class. But I know what you mean, with the SonyPD 170, I go into the cellar and see what still .....
VG
Jan
Antwort von UlmsSkyliner:
Because here it is claimed that no noise occurs and is very satisfied with the picture quality is, I have a few shots of the shots my Panasonic NV GS 500th
I just can not say that the recordings are excellent sharp.
Here's the proof:
I once in Auto and Manual mode filmed. (the values themselves)
Click on the Picture .....
Total:
zum Bild zum Bild zum Bild zum Bild zum Bild Car:
zum Bild 3db:
zum Bild 6db:
zum Bild 9dB:
zum Bild 12dB:
zum Bild 15dB:
zum Bild 18db:
zum Bild Bluescreen car:
zum Bild 6db:
zum Bild 12dB:
zum Bild What is s.diesen sharp pictures?
Called her this sharp or wat?
MfG Chris
MfG Chris
Antwort von snowy:
pretty bad the schärfe s.gescalten jpegs to judge ...
Antwort von Jan:
The SSV Ulm will probably be back soon, hopefully in the Regionalliga to be found ...
Maybe you have HD Camera earlier had, like the 20th AGM
As shown by the very large differences in resolution.
Ich hab ne time synonymous with other cameras rotated, SonyPC 110 & 120 and a few ala Canon MV 600i ('s I think), I would be the GS 500 was a good estimate (for a 720x576 PAL Camera) to 800 ¬.
Good convince your pictures are not necessarily 100%, my claims have been synonymous higher, so I no longer film with her. Currently you can only target MVX 4i and Peter 06 favorite SonyHC 96 chart.
The whole Testmags above, the sharpness and Color performancebei the GS 500 highly praised - at least in the price range - they even had video of Canon XM 2 DM seen.
What did you partner compared times with?
VG
Jan
Antwort von UlmsSkyliner:
The SSV Ulm will probably be back soon, hopefully in the Regionalliga to be found ...
Maybe you have HD Camera earlier had, like the 20th AGM
As shown by the very large differences in resolution.
Ich hab ne time synonymous with other cameras rotated, SonyPC 110 & 120 and a few ala Canon MV 600i ('s I think), I would be the GS 500 was a good estimate (for a 720x576 PAL Camera) to 800 ¬.
Good convince your pictures are not necessarily 100%, my claims have been synonymous higher, so I no longer film with her. Currently you can only target MVX 4i and Peter 06 favorite SonyHC 96 chart.
The whole Testmags above, the sharpness and Color performancebei the GS 500 highly praised - at least in the price range - they even had video of Canon XM 2 DM seen.
What did you partner compared times with?
VG
Jan I hope it is that the SSV soon next is up :-)
Is it possible you have the games or if you know the name just because a few years ago they still had to be located in the Bundesliga?
back to topic
I got the camera bought before 29 days.
Had considered whether I am not the Canon HV 20 is to buy, but I've yet to decide the GS 500.
What I actually regret that I'm just not impressed with the picture quality of (to me the most important). If I were a few shots of the 20 HV consider, I'm just s.Staunen due to the excellent image quality.
And that for about the same price.
Can I still exchange Camera on the HV 20?, Have them in a photo shop bought.
ps before I had 200 ¬ ne cam and have now thought of who I defeat 900 ¬ für ne cam spend synonymous then that I did what I like and that fascinates me
MfG Chris
Antwort von Jan:
Hello Chris,
I am looking for sites to s.and Transfermarkt.de or Sport1.de past SSV Ulm you should know as football Freudiger, 2000, they were still in the 1st League. Starting to look and I s.welche as currently known team in the 3rd or 4 Premier League - Ulm, Waldhof and my club SG Dynamo are one of them.
The HV 20 is indeed an HD camera, is clearly the picture looks better s.einem PC. In a normal 576i PAL television but I would doubt it.
30 days? That will be difficult ....
When buying business is sometimes, if you make a nice impression, the tiptop Camera is the complete accessories including carton, well packed (cable tied with cable ties, Camera with the foil, LCD cleaning etc) - then you will have depending on the seller 20% chance that they are in a HV 20 exchanges. Usually works well with the customers or clients even more accessories to sell - None Cons makes halt gern.
The hard way is the camera allows you to continually send Pana, stay while the camera makes blurry images, the 3 attempt of the Pana Camera in order - it must be reversed. In the variant you have to be tough but if you a abwimmelt - go to his head - and then next. When a customer makes the right pressure, he gets very often right, although he did not in the right. We had times like a "used" razors purchased 25 days before - and after the customer has a conversation with the managing director be completely recovered money - and he was not really needed & wiederverkaufbar!
VG
Jan
Antwort von Axel:
I just can not say that the recordings are excellent sharp.
Here's the proof ...
... What is s.diesen pictures sharp?
Called her this sharp or wat? Ridiculous! Clearly, these images sharp! So sharp as a DV camera with no sharpening contours (and it speaks for you, that you will not use) can only be purely of the Resolutionher know. And in overcast sky in the neighborhood gray grayish can synonymous of a Dreichipper not require brilliance, the motive is a depressing halt wischiwaschi.
The colors are excellent for Lowlight, the gain very subtle.
A Blue Screen must be quite bright and evenly illuminate, at least to the extent that you do not need gain. And blue is good pigeons are not synonymous as Keyingfarbe, which may have a little more pop.
In short, good camera, a superfluous thread.
Good convince your pictures are not necessarily 100%, my claims have been synonymous higher, so I no longer film with her. Currently you can only target MVX 4i and Peter 06 favorite SonyHC 96 chart. From you as an expert, Jan, as I would have expected that you have these apples / pears Comparison mitmachen. There is perhaps for one or the other grounds on DV instead of HDV to film. Who then begins to focus on the howl, which I say: Heul doch!
Antwort von Jan:
Chris has probably still not noticed that the HV 20 with 1440x1080 recording.
Yes, the GS 500 is making good pictures. But now I'm so "in love" in the PD 170 - which I probably stand as a unique, what is so for the money in SD is getting.
Ok, I actually go the extreme synonymous comparisons to the sack, so I'm rarely at ala DSLR forums - there is, in principle, almost everything verissen (bad Bokeh, CA will be found somewhere, the smallest distortions are addressed, in large magnifying tiny details somewhere in a Picture Kantenaufsteilung noticed, etc.), always found a reason to make bad Optics, interested buyers will be quite unsettled nothing.
Interestingly, only these comparisons are rarely of the true professionals, the users there are in bold, often have consumer cameras and lenses - rarely more than 1200 ¬ per case.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Markus73:
I just can not say that the recordings are excellent sharp.
Here's the proof ...
... What is s.diesen pictures sharp?
Called her this sharp or wat?
Ridiculous! Clearly, these images sharp! [...] Honestly, when I seen the pictures yesterday, I am synonymous asked what exactly that bothers you. They are not judged as a Still Image, but as a film on a suitable device (TV) and you will see that you are in PAL resolution nothing can get much better.
Gruß,
Markus
Antwort von UlmsSkyliner:
Hello,
I am aware that the HV 20 in a higher Resolutionals the GS 500 begins.
Sure, the better Bildqualiät of the HV 20. (HD)
I have never been synonymous said that the Bildqualiät NV-GS 500 is bad, just that I recorded in the Comparison of the Canon HV 20 are not sharp excelente finde.
Maybe I can still exchange the camera, already have a conversation with my vendor led. That said, I should bring the Cam.
As far as I know you can with the HV 20 to record HDV and DV to spend?
___
I want here in this thread if no NV GS 500 make bad!
Thanks 3CCD technology, the colors very well "over", are splendidly
-The Bildqualiät is quite good (but you know so that the images of the 20 HV sharper and better, but that is clearly synonymous ----> higher resolution)
- Very good menu, high operating comfort
Focus ring is what great, sharpness relocations are possible
Thanks to the 4-megapixel, it is synonymous with relatively good photos
-Built-in flash
Camera looks good
etc.
MfG Chris
Antwort von Axel:
As far as I know you can with the HV 20 to record HDV and DV to spend? The already. But this is again only a compromise. The best workflow for HDV to a DVD as a final objective is to record and edit HDV and downkonvertieren. To me the suspicion that you may have a DV camera you bought, because your calculator and / or your editing software is not HDV compliant.
I think people who made today such a reason nor a good DV cam to buy, not stupid. Resolutionist really is not everything. And aware of general trends to be able to dissociate, in my opinion is a sign of intelligence. But please do not order steak and then to the unhappy filet mignon s.Nebentisch eyed!
Antwort von UlmsSkyliner:
To me the suspicion that you may have a DV camera you bought, because your calculator and / or your editing software is not HDV compliant.
Right!
My computer is simply not as powerful, but it will be upgraded.
Did not synonymous HD Television.
Nevertheless, the Resolutionja better s.PC and most synonymous watch the movie there.
MfG Chris
Antwort von UlmsSkyliner:
Hello,
I had me a few weeks ago recording times of 20 HV runtergeladen (fxsupport.com).
As you know, I am impressed of the sharpness, but I noticed that the pictures are very jerky.
In one recording, a woman runs over, and the looks pretty choppy out.
Is this normal?
HD has the disadvantage that the images are jerky?
Always? (Fast Bewungen, man runs / runs)
Okay my computer is not as powerful, but it will upgrade!
But the pictures will still remain or jerky?
've Read in the thread
http://forum.slashcam.de/viewtopic.php?p=160699 # 160699
"A contemplative with panoramic river looks okay, from the moving car as it can not record, because the movement is shitty resolution. This is for me the crucial shortcoming. Film is Speed, a rollercoaster ride more than an hour in front of the aquarium"
I want to make synonymous sports ---> read quick movements, is not suitable for HD?
Please clarify me at times.
MfG Chris
Antwort von Axel:
But the pictures will still remain or jerky?
've Read in the thread
http://forum.slashcam.de/viewtopic.php?p=160699 # 160699
"A contemplative with panoramic river looks okay, from the moving car as it can not record, because the movement is shitty resolution. This is for me the crucial shortcoming. Film is Speed, a rollercoaster ride more than an hour in front of the aquarium" That was a mistake on my part. I mistook bad camera work with poor motion resolution. Here
http://forum.slashcam.de/dv-oder-hdv-vt55018.html
roughly in the middle of the first Page, has Andreas_Kiel comparison shots (pans) for download links, the post begins with "Sooo"
The Comparison with IR shows that a faster swing to (is synonymous for bad camera) with HDV synonymous movements produced no worse.
The truth is that HDV newcomers often unwittingly choose motives rather static, because in them the more resolution out. Conversely triggers nausea Picture a
big show when it is unstable, regardless of codec used. And large, even full screen, one sees an HDV Picture on a calculator (which display has HD resolution), while a computerized Picture postcards mostly about size. The same is true for HD Ready / Full HD TV displays, which generally are larger than tube TVs.
Bucking in the sense of sticking points to a lame Calculator. In the case of the HV20, there are still two jerky versions:
1. Your program may be editing the optional progressive mode is not processed (very strong Jerkiness).
2. 25 frames require some experience in camera work. The (slight) Jerkiness representation corresponds to the movement of film and sports will be less suitable.
Antwort von UlmsSkyliner:
Hello,
Canon HV 20 was now against the NV GS 500 traded.
There were no problems at the exchange even though I have the NV GS 500 already had kmapp 30 days.
Tomorrow I'll rapporteur.
MfG Chris
Antwort von Container:
Narrative zufreienden look like you are? I decide mcih synonymous between the two cams
Antwort von UlmsSkyliner:
The Bildqualiät the HV 20 is great, very sharp, colors are well!
Of course, recorded in HD!
One sees already battered s.PC Montior the difference between the normal Resolutionund HD.
I'm glad that I have the Panasonic NV-GS 500 was exchanged.
However, I must say that the ease of the Panasonic is worlds better. The focus ring s.der GS 500 is what really fine, not to compare with the cogs of the 20th AGM
Housing the Canon looks cheap, it rattle a few parts.
Quite bad, the drive noise.
Well, but since Bildqualiät s.wichtigsten me, I can look over it :-)
MfG Chris
Antwort von parolando:
How, then, is the difference in image quality of both cameras s.PAL Television?
Is it really as next above someone noted that the difference in the "normal" Television is probably not visible?
And as I have the noise behavior of both Camera at Low Light?
Antwort von UlmsSkyliner:
Well, I am of the opinion that there is not really a (big) difference is s.PAL Television.
On the PC monitor is the difference already arg.
And in the dark comes to me with the HV 20 provides that the picture always nachzieht ".
Should we halt the manual shutter speed setting!
is clear ...!!
MfG Chris
