Frage von Ivonne:
Hi,
actually, the new MiniDV camcorder NV-GS230 and 320 so get out in February. Are the already available? I have this still found nothing on the net. In Panasonic.de the two camcorders are not yet available. Knows someone, whether it exists or when because finally come to market?
Regards
Ivonne
Antwort von ManfredMaier:
Good morning.
I had the 320er already purchased about two weeks (great video / still image Dealers in Munich). Media Markt When he was at the time sold out, should be back in about a week come back here.
I have the camcorder incidentally brought back again and brought me the 500s, because I of the interior shots at relatively low light was a little disappointed.
Schöne Grüße,
Manfred
Antwort von Ivonne:
Thanks, Manfred. Then the so yet available, but most online shops write now that Panasonic has residue NEN delivery (but sound as if the camcorder has not yet on the market). As I said, even on the Panasonic website is currently "not available". I hope that the truth as quickly as amended.
I've actually been inside for the 230er decided, not least because it has a headphone output. I focus mostly on exterior anyway recordings.
Bin mal gespannt, when I can call my own :-)
Regards
Ivonne
Antwort von syntech:
I've actually been inside for the 230er decided, not least because it has a headphone output. So slowly, I Panasonics philosophy always incomprehensible. The 230er gets NEN Micro-/KH-Anschluss and the higher-320er has neither?
What is the logical explanation?
Antwort von Ivonne:
Yes, this is something that I can not understand synonymous. Were it otherwise, we should not be so many compromises. But ultimately, the connections were the reason why I prefer the 230er admit. But're right, you really wonder why the Panasonic with the features it regulates.
Antwort von Ivonne:
So, have the device now ordered online. Although this dealer was that the Cam in a few days is ready, came the same mail, that due to delivery problems of manufacturer currently no shipping can be done. Delivery date unknown. :-((( This is so stupid times. By early May, I need this thing urgently.
Antwort von Gast11:
@ Yvonne:
So, you've got yourself "inside already decided for the 230er." Sorry, but I always wonder about the idiocy that I can read here. A friend recently came with his Pana NV-GS300 to me, we made a few recordings. When I left on the PC, I was terrified. So ein Scheiß (ichs otherwise can not really tell). Total unnatural colors, green lawn in the late winter looked like in high summer, red and blue neon colors was basically like ink. And now is not a cheap Consumercam, more expensive than the 230th But nothing to obstruct s.den colors. If the 230 should provide similar, forget it. Your videos will lie. And the audience will notice this, some consciously, most of them subconsciously. Since your video may still have a good story. The audience will not believe you will never be with all the feeling in your pictures go by.
That I do not laugh, because headphone connection, blablabla. Order your three, four cams, take two days rehearsal recordings and then compare. Keep the ones you like s.besten, send the others back. To be fair to those who buy your Testcams later to treat the Cams and carefully before you buy cheap Noname-Batteries and charging cradle for the corresponding Hama Universal Charger, then you need only unpack Cams. Everything else in the boxes then you need not touch.
Can synonymous course be that you have any psychedelic twist things, then goes to 300 or even similar. Good luck.
Antwort von Markus73:
[...] A friend recently came with his Pana NV-GS300 to me, we made a few recordings. When I left on the PC, I was terrified. So ein Scheiß (ichs otherwise can not really tell). [...] How bad can it not be, after all, the 3CCD models of Panasonic s.jeder corner is recommended. The people praised the way, especially the natural colors ;-)
@ Yvonne: I do not know what standards some people start, but at least I'm with my GS180 (practically identical with the 230) very satisfied and I have not yet synonymous much negative about the camera was discovered. I think not, so that you've done anything wrong.
Gruß,
Markus
Antwort von Bernd E.:
I always wonder about the idiocy that I can read here ... NV-GS300 ... So ein Scheiß ... unnatural colors ... Your videos will be a lie ... The fact that I did not laugh, because headphone jack, blablabla ... obviously synonymous Can be that you have any psychedelic twist things, then goes to 300 or even similar. Camera defect? Wrong settings? Regardless, a qualified criticism is somewhat different. As would I, as a prospective buyer does not give it.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Peter06:
I can already feel gast11 gift. Check out the pictures here:
http://www.videozona.ru/video_tests/hc96-gs300/
Such a strengthening of the colors is übrigends with any video editing software.
Here are tests (translated by google translator Russian-English)
http://tinyurl.com/33ft6w
Antwort von Bernd E.:
Such a strengthening of the colors is übrigends with any video editing software Sure, but the criticism here was the performance WITHOUT Color Postprocessing. And the color performance is always very subjective sense: one might rather colder or pastel colors, others prefer warmer or stronger. The Russian test pictures show my opinion on the GS300 not a "psychedelic" colors, because every where you have to advise against the purchase.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Peter06:
I did meant that, in order to achieve these colors, the video editing can be synonymous.
As you say, a matter of taste.
Antwort von Markus73:
I can already feel gast11 gift. Check out the pictures here:
http://www.videozona.ru/video_tests/hc96-gs300/
And how do you judge the degree of reality Color performance, without the thing in real life to have seen?
Apart from this: those who like Russian dolls on the test times in the original pictures has seen who knows how exaggerated kitschy colors really are :-)
Gruß,
Markus
Antwort von Ivonne:
Grade I look again in my old thread.
First of all, Gast11 what I ask for tions "idiocy" tells? That must be me first explain. And anyway, what's that for a "review", Gast11? I think the cams of Panasonic have already received good reviews. If the colors to be so bad, why cut the Cams in tests as well s.bzw. why are still bought? I apologize for the 230er decided by the price because they think her ideas and the features that I like to look at Cam. The 320er is more expensive and offers me, for example, no Köpfhöreranschluss. One must always compromise.
At the link given below: So, so bad I think the colors do not. What it should please all "unnatural"? I will always rich. But eh I'm not a film professional. I think the shots with the 230er are still worlds better than that of its cam of my uncles who have over 14 years old has ... and so bad was not their quality. In an emergency, I can still with the appropriate software to help.
Incidentally, yesterday I did get NEN call ..... my Cam is here Tuesday at the latest :-) Then I can even convince them if I bought a pig in a poke hab.
Liebe Grüße
Ivonne
Antwort von Ivonne:
So, did my 230er Panasonic now on the heart and kidneys investigated and can say that the colors across very naturally. From what you Gast11, as described above, is searched for me to see no trace. Everything funzt wonderful, even the image stabilizer, although of course these will deuced Cams. Overall, the 230er my Erwarunten exceeded.
Greeting
Ivonne
Antwort von AndyZZ:
For the alleged false statements may be umpteen give false set TVs or monitors with incorrect color, NTSC and PAL confused etc etc etc, not of deliberate falsification, so as a kind of "character assassination" to operate. Look at the camera images to live in the store. That in itself is meaningful.
Antwort von murks:
What Gast11 described sounds very wrong according to White Balance. And let's face it, if the colors should be so bad, it would hardly be a ne Cam buy, right? I would have had doubts if it is so ne Cam for 200-300 euros would have acted, but each can, like Andy said, even in the store and go a few times to try Cams.
LG
Ivonne
