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My situation, I have a small publishing house have begun interviews, show reports, etc. to create a video. For that I bought for business after some search a JVC GY-HM100E. With which I am really satisfied to this purpose and which will not be the subject of this synonymous threats. All this only as background information.
Now, what to me is all about:
I'm filming so come to the principle, like the proverbial virgin and child. As an ambitious person that I am, I want to improve my skills in this area of course continuous. That is why I'm considering to purchase a camera synonymous privately to me, especially in the manual image control, ie, exposure, sharpness, etc., etc., to practice at the shooting. The "private" is quite important because it sets the budget, which should preferably not exceed 1,500 euros.
My question: What can we establish this in s.besten? The now very affordable consumer cameras help me here, unfortunately, not next, because manual control is something that is not where absolutely necessary.
I have a feeling that a VDSLR probably the only real alternative is. But it makes sense synonymous? Can szBseiner Eos 550D practice your skills filmakers really?
And they make the shooting without bulky accessories really make sense? Because like so many here have written the Prices for this stuff is really ridiculous. Why a shoulder rest which can consist of 2 aluminum poles, a bit of plastic and a few screws is costing 1500, which I simply do None of course. But that's not the issue.
Edit: I wanted to insert a specific example: In February, I go with a larger group for the first time in my life snowboarding. Since I am a beginner I will not up and down slopes while heating. And the others would be happy if she is filming a one bit. Will I make it as a beginner with a DSLR properly, as in the field autofocus etc. umbedingt not know about rock and skiers to move quite so much;) plays only as an example
For suggestions, as always, I am most grateful!
Greetings
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
Topic Snowboard: movement begins man with a Wide Angleein, not with a telephoto, in consequence, is autofocus not an issue, because in the Wide Angle Can you synonymous good and happy films with Aperture, 11-13, in the snow anyway, is there anyway things are much more too light, and blurred is then nothing more.
However, you need to properly NEN large chip (full frame or APS-C max) and a decent Optics, for example, the Canon 14mm s.der Canon 5D, 7D s.der'd need you have about 9 mm for the same wide-angle picture, and something simply Gibts not, at 11mm there is closing down. For smaller chips, it is generally more difficult to find good wide Anglezu because the curve all right soon.
Ne recommendation would be synonymous of the 16-35mm Canon, then you are at least slightly flexible.
MB
Antwort von pilskopf:
In GH2 you could hang a 7-14mm off taking the distortion ironed out from the chip. Crop is the GH2 well in 16:9 at 1.8 x. For half the money there are an Olympus 9-18mm is not much worse. Just as an example that there need be synonymous another way.
One might therefore the GH2 Kit with a 14-140mm take for 1500 ¬. Then, when money was still left to the WW for 500 ¬. ZB
The GH2 in the kit comes with one of the fastest AFs for the video section so.
Antwort von Mink:
In the snow to make a better case with ne 7D surely better than a 550D .... and this maybe a Tokina 11-16mm (for Snowboardkram) and even a 50mm 1.8 for the rest (for now) and a few filters .... But with ¬ 1,500 is already closely ....
... Oh yes .... Battery Grip and Batteries (thus encouraging the flow of mountain does not go)
Ne VDSLR is filming in the classic sense of the relatively close ... why learning is so very good ....
If you have already identified the most shoulder rests only n bissel aluminum construction made it to you but yourself ... that goes and then to buy and accessories.
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
14mm x 1.8 = 25mm ... this is a boring ultra wide angle. You can still synonymous just have the right to do something good, must it really be this cheap crap forever?
Antwort von pilskopf:
You reckon I can, I write synonymous yes, he just has to fork out ¬ 500 more to get a 9mm or get to level 1000 ¬ for a super wide angle of the did you mean that does not exist. And what's his name cheap crap, how far he wants to come when he has only 1500 ¬? It costs 14-140 SOLO 800 ¬ and is a video-optimized lens has a sharpness that what you're in video mode s.einer Canon Alias | Wavefront dream Mayaingknipse only pretending. From AF to mention that knows a Canon not know.
Antwort von gunman:
Hi,
Snowboard films with DSLR without folding and rotating display? You will have problems. My favorite: Lumix GH 2! Gunman
Antwort von pailes:
You definitely need a helicopter: http://vimeo.com/13015928
Below I would not want to enter, alternatively you can organize Dir 'ne GoPro HD;)
When the GH1 was relatively new to the market was posted in any forum GH1 this video that I found really quite sweet, maybe you plan well, what in this style: http://vimeo.com/8209906
Antwort von Crookie:
If you come with the JVC along well, just buy yourself a private synonymous. VDSLR I think this is a Beginners tend to be unfit.
"Marc ballhaus" wrote:
Snowboard theme: movement begins with a Wide Angleein you, not with a telephoto
.. I would not sign it. The best snowboard shots are usually taken with a telephoto.
There seems to be a general prejudice that action sports (only) with a Wide Anglegefilmt / should be photographed.
Antwort von toxitobi:
So as a beginner in snowboarding shooting to do is risky. I drive myself and s.Anfang should focus first snowboarding again. So ne Cam is quickly destroyed when right on the edge of the snowboard lands. Otherwise, stop filming just taken off. is certainly better ;-)
We're all talking now of VDSLRs but it was so synonymous to Consumercams under 1500 ¬ with manual options. As I cast times, the Panasonic HDC-SD707 with NEM Wide Angle Converter Raynox ala or of the Panasonic would be for you, thanks to 50p for the sport and full manual controls, a solution.
Greeting Toxitobi
Antwort von benito:
First of all thank you for your recent comments.
Then I have to clarify a couple of times to clarify things or:
It is my main concern is to have something with which I "film manual" s.das me (without automatic mode with more creative ways to film), before moving.
The with the snowboarding was just a small example, to find something about the efficiency of VDSLRs out. I will not make as profesional Sowboard film. It would only get a little practice and the buddies are always glad when she films a.
And for the life I will not film in driving. I put out there where movies and those who can.
So again thanks for the contributions so far and I look forward to more.
Greetings
Antwort von olja:
I am also in the "training phase" as an ambitious amateur and I always try to access everyday things out for now. Synonymous had gone straight to capture sports. The result was the current point of view, lousy, then I thought it was great :-) Although better than other zoom and swivel, but hard cuts nil. It was too much at once. The correct choice of scene, the Post and the "real" editing technique.
So I prefer to bake bread for the first time and very little added everyday trying to get liquid, because I have the more opportunity to practice. Besides always synonymous theory learned and I then searched suitable victim.
For example, I film the cooking (jaja.. Yawn) and then try to craft an appealing clip of it. I see it then synonymous various settings for testing and that it looks out of true, if the setting as the carrot peeling or other movements to change and then no more cuts in the flow of movement. In any case, my first and helped put a number of AHA-Effects. Possibly. someone still has a few practice sessions.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
@ Marc - question today were distracted by rendering easily?
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The new 8-15mm of Canon is not yet on the market.
The Canon APS C cams have a crop of x1, 6 (exactly even of x1, 62)
The Peleng 8mm Samyang or do not have the typical round shadows s.einer Crop Cam
The Tokina 11-16 mm and Canon 10-22 mm are recommended s.APS C-Cams much.
Snowboarding and surfing are often filmed with telephoto lenses or whatever synonymous photographed as you mentioned correctly in Aperture 8 - 11 comes across sharp
The Canon 16-35mm Lens is ne top but if I'm honest enough the Cosina 19-35mm the difference regarding quality nobody can find with the eye. ...............
@ Olja
Search for contributions MoritzK time "cooking with a difference" so I durzende tips relating to film, where pictures and cooking.
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@ Benito
The combination of eg Panasonic 707 and EOS 550 is most suitable to acquire training in all facets of the filming. * A Canon HF series is good but synonymous Cam * very good
This should be quick to react and adapt to any requirements / situations to be the target of the exercises. The acquired understanding can then be applied to each box with really capture button.
The filming of snowboarders and their action - is not the first problem, what counts here is an understanding of the matter (Sport), a good communicative rapport with actors, an idea / eye for the action.
The cameras should be "sealed" for such a project, then survive longer ;-)
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MfG B. DeKid
Antwort von olja:
@ B. DeKid
Just something I mean. Before disoriented rumirrt with the action, make a rather small, daily production process completed. Even if it's only a cheese sandwich. ;-)
Who's it properly "hard" and cut liquid get is ever next step.
Antwort von mann:
"Benito" wrote:
My question: What can we establish this in s.besten? The now very affordable consumer cameras help me here, unfortunately, not next, because manual control is something that is not where absolutely necessary.
Panasonic SD707 or HS700 to offer very good manual control options.
