Frage von peter06:
After 3 days herumsuchen, I now come to the following stands:
(Cullmann Cullmann 3430 and 3230, I had synonymous in the eye, but I have deleted from my choice, because Velbon for the price but much better)
When red text, I am not sure and would love to talk about a confirmation / opinion about this very much.
SonyVCT-D680RM Tripod Pictures:
http://www.fengniao.com/secforum/secpics/15/58/571570.jpg
http://www.sony.com.cn/electronicS/accy/accycity/2_tripod/680l.jpg
http://bbs.eoof.net/UploadFile/2004-7/20047322853996.jpg
http://www.fengniao.com/secforum/secpics/15/58/571574.jpg
http://www.fengniao.com/secforum/secpics/15/58/571575.jpg
~ 100 Euro
LANC + handling (have a SonyHC96)
+ Small
+ Comes with bag
- No fluid head? Velbon CX 686 Pictures:
http://web2.uqat.ca/astro/inventaire/images/VELBON_CX686_TREPIED.jpg
http://paper.a-ha.com.tw/shoppic/20055122081618645.jpg
http://paper.a-ha.com.tw/list.asp?id=291
http://www.videomakers.net/imma/up/Anonimo_30_7_2004_001.jpg
http://www.velbon.cn/big/catalog/video/image/cx686.jpg
~ 50 Euro
+ Fluid head
(+) Comes with bag (who can please confirm)? Velbon DV 7000 Pictures:
http://www.fxsupport.de/hc1/hc1_7.html
http://www.velbon.cn/big/catalog/video/image/cx686.jpg
http://www.fxsupport.de/hc1/hc1_7.html
http://www.velbon.cn/big/catalog/video/image/dv7000.jpg
http://www.secamera.co.kr/upfiles/mallupfiles/dv-7000-1.jpg
~ 90 Euro
+ Fluid head
(-) Does not come with bag (who can please confirm)? Manfrotto 728B
Pictures:
http://www.video-direct.com/accessories/manfrotto/728b-lg.jpg
~ 110 Euro
- Comes with pocket
- Not a fluid head
+ More accessories
What would you draw? I have the SonyDCR-HC96 - which has grad mal half a kilo.
Antwort von mentao:
hi peter!
the tripod with you, unfortunately I can not help, because I own only the hama-variant of the small Velbon hab ... aaaber!
I MUST GIVE YOU NEN STERN!
your thread is not only exemplary good, the EXEMPLARY is almost PERFECT! - Given the discussion as drum ....
issa also be synonymous again ontop ... :)
VLG!
Antwort von peter06:
thank you very much. must be based on an error indicating that I unfortunately can not change: 2 building under Velbon CX686 Velbon DV7000 shows.
Thanks to the praise, I have the motivation to find a picture with all 4 stands in comparison to make. ATTENTION: size ratios agree only between the two Velbon:
Small version of the image:
zum Bild Large version of the image (more details visible):
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Antwort von ole_mueller:
And another error:
The size difference in the pictures do not correspond with the reality of tripods!
Antwort von rush:
Hi,
I think the Velbon come without a bag! at least my dv-7000 had been delivered without the bag ... the price of the smaller cx686 würd ich therefore synonymous rather pocket without thinking.
for sony, I can not say that with the LANC remote control is not bad but certainly ... only thing s.wie because the head is.
Antwort von Peter06:
Here is the blueprint of
Manfrotto 728b: http://www.manfrotto.com/webdav/site/manfrotto/shared/manfrotto_nord/pdf/7/728B_20051125.pdf
Antwort von Pillermännchen:
My Velbon is 7000 last week definitely came
without bag.
Jens
PS
Nice post of yours!
Yes Do you really work.
Antwort von Johannes:
I have a Velbon Cx 686 and the part
is super. With pocket
For less than 100 ¬
it's just too empfellen
and of the max.höhe I go
Velbon of other non-synonymous higher.
And without the fluid head kanst like you forgot
mfg: Johannes
Antwort von Mato:
Hi,
the only viable s.dem Sony S. is the LANC control. Again there are other alternatives Manufacturer.
Gruss
ph
Antwort von vovideo:
Hi,
the only viable s.dem Sony S. is the LANC control. Again there are other alternatives Manufacturer.
Gruss
ph Which Manufacturer support the LANC controller yet?
Manfrotto perhaps?
We currently have a Sony VCT-870RM and are thus seen as an entry satisfied. The LANC control works wonderfully and the fluid head allows smooth panning without bucking, which is common Tripod.
Who is filming a lot and constantly on tour, it
should be but (like us) to something even higher rank around - And of course, synonymous is a matter of individual budgets is because you could easily triple that of Sony's stand on the table must scroll - the quality just costs.
Maybe someone can give us so in this thread say which manufacturer yet LANC support? That would be very nice.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
Which Manufacturer support the LANC controller yet? Manfrotto and Bebob me as a fall.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von vovideo:
Which Manufacturer support the LANC controller yet?
Manfrotto and Bebob me as a fall. Thank you Bernd. We will soon be time scout. :-)
Antwort von Jan:
The Manfrotto 728 is B times, at least not cheap plastic tripod - aluminum, the bag has 2 straps and can thus umgehangen, which is a 3 way head, exposing it as a photo tripod - but not video.
Velbon CX 686 - I do not know, looks as if the same head as the DV 7000 for a cheaper plastic tripod set .....
DV 7000 is just a friend with the price, it probably hard of a fluid head + stable not cheap plastic legs give. Bag is not included as standard - has already been written.
Well the Sony 680, actually a cheap ala Hama Tripod for 19-29 ¬, synonymous not a fluid head which comes with Sony s.dem first 1170er. But probably one of the most remote Tripods synonymous times 1.2 meters, in addition to the even smaller 480 and 580er. The 870 or 1170 will probably be synonymous with expensive, PG 10 is already more expensive than the camera.
HC 96 has Lanc connection, so superior, I think the Fernbedieung s.Tripod 680 but not quite cheap done exactly as the Tripod. I have it in the company so no initial impression review! Well if camera on tripod operation will probably still interesting, especially if
there are often sharp shifts in conjunction with zoom and pan.
Manfrotto Lanc remotes of zb. 512 just over ¬ 100, 522, or 523rd
By 523er Pro I myself have worked great handling, different zoom speed - but probably too expensive.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Peter06:
Are the legs of the DV -7000 plastic or aluminum? Who has one and can check the times? Edit: Has answered (thanks Jan): Aluminum
Antwort von Jan:
For this reason, it is synonymous so hard - no plastic!
VG
Jan
Antwort von Jan:
I have daily contact to 20 stands, 110 digicams and 30 video cameras .....
Antwort von Peter06:
Some questions that you would purchase at a tripod should:
Do I need überhaupt ein Tripod?
- Modern cameras usually have Image Stabilization, which is
a quiet camera work permits
- With a tripod loses s.Mobilität
- Their own children to catch on tape is often easier without Tripod
How much will I spend up to?
- Often it is worth something and pay more for better quality.
How often will I use this tripod?
- Then may be synonymous to the price set
Where do I build this Tripods?
- Only in interior spaces? on roads? in the area? Meadow? Forest? Sand?
- Meet for rubber / plastic feet or Tripods with steel tips necessary?
What will I use it?
- Shooting of still images? Shooting of movements? Do I need soft pans?
- For smooth panning is a "fluid" tripod head (ölgedämpft) of advantage
What materials is the Tripod structured?
- Alubeine or plastic? Head made of plastic, metal or solid?
What are the parts connected?
- Plastic joints, metal eyelets or screws?
How long will I for the construction of the tripod need?
- The establishment of stand fast?
- The location of the tripod often?
- 4-membered telescopic poles need to same Height for pulling more than 2-membered.
How does the grip of the tripod?
- Interplay between the tripod legs - legs - spider - center column - Shoulder
- How is the grip of the tripod with the feet on the soil? Rubber foot? Plastic? or metal tip?
- Leave the tripod feet abwinkeln?
- If the angle between legs and shoulders only of the shoulder fixed or synonymous supported by a spider?
- Are the arms of the spider in the length adjustment (on very high quality tripods seen)? One must however, synonymous to the angle of the center column to shoulder ensured. For fixed Spinnenarmlänge is the angle shoulder / leg for tripod legs all the same.
- Does the spider s.der column by a screw (which can be found in the narrow space stationary triangle fix) or is the spider at Tripod ausgespreizten on a notch at the bottom of the center column on?
How does the head look like?
- Ball Heads, 3-way heads are a bit for photo cameras
- 2-way head with fluid damping for optimal video
- Material plastic or metal?
- How can the parts of the head lock?
How is the handling?
- Leave all bolts / wheels within easy reach? Can I use the Bedienungsarm changed (left / right page)? Can I use other operating arms? (Through an exchange with LANC controller)?
- Is there a bubble or 2 (s) available?
- Can you look at the spirit (s) it is easy?
- Lighting the spirit (s) in the dark?
Can I use the head with a crank to adjust the Height?
- Crank column exist or sliding pillar?
If a bag supplied?
Can I use the tripod with accessories extend / change?
Fixed or modular construction? When other people use?
Are there any spare parts?
How mobile will I be?
- Crucial to size and weight of the tripod and if you need a bag or not
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Antwort von Peter06:
Thanks, another question to DV -7000: Can you stand the triangle by a bolt of the spider s.die column fix, or do the spider is always at the bottom of the center column s.Ende published?
Edit: Yes, it was even through analysis of various
photos of the stands found.
Antwort von Jan:
And what do you want me with your list (is for me nothing new) say?
Current digital video cameras all have Image Stabilization, you really have to know!
The Image Stabilization in the HC 96 is digital and pixel costs synonymous should be known exactly how the artifacts when panning with switched stabilizer.
If the owner of the HC 96 zoom operated, would have even the newest beginners have come to realize that the images not be loose free.
How often will I have a tripod use?
Quite simply not to approve flüssigkeitsgedämpftem head, smooth pans are nearly impossible, so that even a one-time use such as the shooting of a wedding the entire film is verschandeln.
I have the tripod for my camera in 4.5 or 5.5 sec structured? Or should it not be even 4.3 sec, just hobby filming a plant?
That with the 3-way so I had thee first in my first thread to explain, but you were of a 3-way Tripod chosen, even though everyone knows that you only 2 ways for a video camera needs
etc.
I must now go to bed
Antwort von Peter06:
Admittedly I was slightly bland. Furthermore, many things are not clear for everyone. It knows not everyone is as good as du
Of course I knew about the Electronic Image Stabilization SonyHC96 of modesty, and the costs of these pixels. But how much? The video resolution is still the same. Artifacts when panning, I have not noticed. Of course I would prefer an HC3 - but I can not afford and they do give me None.
You are right, with freehand 10xZoom I do not get loose free Picture. Can a Camera?
Construction duration of between 4 or 5 seconds is no preference, but between 5 or 20 seconds is probably a difference. Suppose I film and what needs to be quickly cut off ... ;). Or you need for aligning an eternity, unsuitable for quick shots (see http://www.fxsupport.de/hc1/index.html Eintrag vom 31.10.2005 08:33 - synonymous nervt Him). WERS is the need for time to set up or disassembly certainly a worthy consideration.
The case of 3-way Tripod Manfrotto, I have chosen because it is good and cheap to shoot and quite usable. Everyone knows that you only need 2 way? - I knew it not at first, it was not even clear what this actually means. And for some cases, can the 3rd Way to make sense. It does not have any film to be horizontally horizontally.
I am not angry, I just want to help and my experiences.
Antwort von Pillermännchen:
Where you just of the Lanc remotes say:
Do you have maybe a few links, or at least the name of remotes which, individually to retrofit my V7000 is?
Jens
Antwort von Jan:
Ok - why was I angry?
I had already written that the DV 7000 is a very robust Alugestänge has - so synonymous weighs 3.37 Kg Ok, you have to ask "Are you sure the plastic is not it?, Ask for more experience reports of other users"
Then I would have been synonymous no preference, my feeling was my thread that you've completely ignored a question Jan is really no plastic? would not disturb me synonymous.
Ok, but then even this type of instruction on the tripod when keyfacts purchase - which is essentially synonymous are true, so it seemed as if s.mich was (we were the only nor the registered users were online)
I am since 1993 in the Video & Photo Shop (synonymous shop) and am at least in the consumer class to a good level - I say at least my clients, I've never been synonymous claimed that there are no other good people there, or somewhere rausgestellt me. As we grad support for FX are, Wolfgang Winne for me is the "master", a very very good man, which it applies emulate.
No. Of course there is no relevant reason why the HC 96 is much worse, because the chain s.Ende by the converters of the DV in the camera is installed, the specifications Pal writes on MiniDV tape, and the HC 96 has enough Resolutionum The 414,720 pixels to create no clue net 2 million so I think from the head, the HC 96 - but do not know exactly - I'm not perfect ..... synonymous
An optical stabilizer behaves but mostly quiet and smooth, though you must Sonyanerkennen, that their digital Steady Shot is pretty good.
The majority of the eh Tripods have 3 screws s.den feet, I've never been in the majority much longer. When DV 7000, I had only synonymous not found the spirit, which is below the tripod plate s.Kopf, a bit hidden and not quite perfect. I have the Sony 580 or the IR 7000 or the Manfrotto 190er never needed much longer to put it up.
Yes my first attempt with more expensive tripods such as the Manfrotto 525, I've synonymous first time to understand it, there's nothing with Ruck / Zuck for a newbie.
The spider screw s.der the DV 7000
is described as of you very well when on the tripod of small area should be stable - no fall or zusammenzugehen.
Ok sorry I was a little too cheeky and unbeherscht, yesterday was perhaps a little irritated synonymous. But you must say a large number of guests synonymous provoke very clear.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Markus:
Do you have maybe a few links, or at least the name of remotes which, individually to retrofit my V7000 is?
Antwort von Jan:
Manfrotto 521 was a number of turners me.
Approximately ¬ 100, but actually not really good remote control of the known species - is fixed with a clamp made - but effective!
Antwort von Pillermännchen:
Antwort von Pillermännchen:
@ Jan
Thanks synonymous s.Dich.
Has my post with overlap.
Jens
Antwort von volker:
Hello,
The head at the DV -7000 is plastic, right?
Is it because then Wackler to come, if I as the zoom lever s.der Camera serve? So I think that the head is jerky, synonymous when the bomb Tripod established. That was one of the problems that I stand with a budget of 20, - had class.
Gruß,
Volker
Antwort von Markus:
The head at the DV -7000 is plastic, right?
Yes.
Is it because then Wackler to come, if I as the zoom lever s.der Camera serve?
No, s.meinem D-600 (16-year-old Velbon tripod) does not wobble when the zoom lever is operated. However, this depends on a light tripod synonymous in this class very much s.Anwender ...
Antwort von volker:
gewackelt it has unfortunately been at the mere touch. The vibrations were slightly, but then on the monitor is quite good to see.
Maybe someone knows a shop in Cologne, the Velbon, so that I could look at me? I think Media Markt and Saturn as one can remember.
approximately 90 - 100, - is really a good price. But I would like to try before.
Gruß,
Volker
Antwort von Markus:
gewackelt it has unfortunately been at the mere touch.
In contrast, only one thing you can do: Let the arm does not go. Is a permanent effort of course. ;-)
Antwort von Pillermännchen:
Ich hab mal s.WE my Velbon 6000 against the Vinten, what with the Manfrotto 525/503 identical is applies to.
If a man with hands the Velbon and with the other sums up the camera, it is easier for a relatively effortless movement in the swivel produce. Depends with the dimensioning and plastic together.
The Vinten, there was more left.
But as Mark says, is your personal commitment is important, as the statics of the Velbon.
I found everything still oK
From shaking alone since (yet) in any event, nothing.
And the head rotates much creamy as the much-alone and expensive Manfrotto 503rd
If you are in the main occupation, however, wild boar slayer with the gripping limbs are, then I would rather recommend the Vinten.
In this case, the more weight you probably synonymous not interested.
Jens
Antwort von Peter06:
@ Jan: Was nothing against you. I work great with Copy + Paste and save longer times between contributions from. I had 2 questions for the dv7000: 1) whether it is aluminum and 2) because of the spider. 1) did you already answered what I synonymous with the top in red contributory to have written. I then had my tripod with optional tips (green) to ask 1) + 2) reinkopiert, but later 1) removed because of it anyway you answered. sry, did not mean it.
I still what to LANC controller haggard. On most cameras is always an IR remote control, which - simply a mirror in front s.das Tripod tinker, and you can see the camera with the Fernbedieung smooth control.
So I now have a control of my camera with the IR camera handling behind the test, and it works without synonymous mirror.
Antwort von Markus:
So I now have a control of my camera with the IR camera handling behind the test, and it works without synonymous mirror.
Some camcorders have the IR sensor on the back or on both sides.
Antwort von Jan:
I agree with Mark, yes you can with the included HC of the 96 tests. Cable did you ever stop contact. When I started not so good with IR remote control, special functions like the zoom, I can not always recruit with the IR, so this is not at 580 Sonysynonymous, Manfrotto halt.
But more importantly for me when I share many components (distance, zoom, recording, or exposure WAG) select, it is with the remote control s.Tripod much better.
The Manfrotto 523 Pro (or other synonymous), I can simultaneously pan and zoom with one hand, and depending on the exercise and feeling very good.
Then I have another hand free and can be a different function to do with it (distance, aperture). That can really bring.
Yes in the vicinity of Cologne has no market Saturn DV 7000, and I must admit, most stores sell it for 120-130.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Markus:
The IR remote control to control the use of camcorders can have other disadvantages. Around if an event on another hobby films FB used. Then, your camcorder is smooth mitgesteuert and possibly could in the midst of a major recording suddenly zoom or even stop.
Antwort von Jan:
But is unlikely to happen, Mark, you have at a concert 96 times 2x SonyHC seen - where all, both with infrared remote control of the film? I have had times with its 2005 Sony makes a remote control 2006 to control did not, I do not know what model it was, since you probably rarely get in the way, and then predict when channel 1 and 2 in advance.
We have now synonymous with the JBO concert a little bit with the new FX 7 rotated, a really good camera, hardly Lichtsmears - Good 3 CMOS chips, the DV 7000 is synonymous good fit - I can really only recommend Tripod for the price class - a slightly larger had it you will be ok. Unfortunately, the pros from the TV next door have rotated with DigiBeta - naja everyone starts small at times ....
VG
Jan
Antwort von Bernd E.:
JBO concert at the ... ...
A Prost to Kitzmann! ;-)))
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Markus:
But is unlikely to happen, Mark, you have at a concert 96 times 2x SonyHC seen - where all, both with infrared remote control of the film?
Yes, which I had already. But not with the HC96 and not on a concert. ;-)
It's always a residual risk.
Antwort von ipscripted:
I recently had a concert in a church with cameras filmed, and while trying to zoom with my IR remote control to operate (Canon Elura 70), which was not good, but the zoom has spun, so I had the lever s.der camera with adhesive tape fix.
I'm synonymous in search of a new tripod, and this topic has helped me very much. What is the biggest difference between the Velbon CX 686 and the DV 7000? The head seems to be so equal, the size synonymous similar. Has someone already experience with the CX 686 made? If yes, how are the legs? Or should I liebr more for the 7000 DV output?
Antwort von Bernieman:
We have now synonymous with the JBO concert a little bit with the new FX 7 rotated, a really good camera, hardly Lichtsmears - Good 3 CMOS chips, the DV 7000 is synonymous good fit - I can really only recommend Tripod for the price class - a slightly larger had it you will be ok. Unfortunately, the pros from the TV next door have rotated with DigiBeta - naja everyone starts small at times ....
Pro Tip: You can reach more for the quality, if you now do not be next after a Digibeta Schiele, but only after a correct times Tripod. Presumably you will if you look long enough, somewhere a roughly 20-year-old Sachtler Panorama 7x7 for less than ¬ 1,000 will receive. It has horizontal and vertical attenuation of seven levels, so you can langbrennweitigen in the area synonymous with wind and clean pan. I have 1994 with such a tripod (bought for 2.500 DM) started and then two years later against a Sachtler Video 18 Pros replaced, which I still use today.
Amateur recordings are usually primarily s.den bad pans to recognize. And I with "swing" somewhat offset my movements because s.sich should we not so much swing. This could be a bad tripod even have to learn that the man with many stops panning.
Matthias
Antwort von Bernd E.:
What is the biggest difference between the Velbon CX 686 and the DV 7000?
The 7000 is much more difficult and viable, so I would prefer.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von ipscripted:
And as is always with legs from ALU, and the Festellschraube the spider? CX 686 has the synonymous? My camera is fairly small, which is why sustainability is not the big problem.
Antwort von Jan:
That is the problem clearly, I would like another tripod use - just missing the money to do so. The DV 7000 is for the mini-budget is really unbeatable.
If I really would earn money, like a couple of camera men I know, I would synonymous to the Manfrottos & Vinten trust.
Well if multiple cameras are in the game, zoom and swivel, I hardly, then falls during cutting does not, because after the cessation of the others come. Yes at basslastiger Music - Tripod can not hard enough ...
When only one camera must be hellishly good with Tripod & Camera bypass, I have succeeded quite well without good beginner and herzoomen out or bucking, Fluid screw on soft stop of the state of IR 7000 and then with a lot of feeling .... - And do not forget from stability.
Who does not exceed ¬ 100 for a tripod-thus has good hands.
VG
Jan
