Frage von TheDrummer:
Hi, folks!
Für'n I need to shoot in the States.
Will there be any problems arise because (because ,...) Steadicam & tripod in a suitcase / camera in hand luggage?
So who has experience?
We are synonymous in public places to turn (eg sightseeing) - will there be problems? (will not have time to obtain permission to film)
Please only qualified responses, and only people who were filming schonmal "over there" - THANK YOU!
Antwort von wolfgang:
Test your views on entry prepared for the fact that they take a closer look at the equipment. My FX1 (Handgepack) was wiped off at the entry into Washington with filter paper, the paper examines the range and s.Scanner placed on Spengstroff .... the camera is always highly suspicious, because there basically all the parts are inside, you would need synonymous for a bomb, has explained to me one of the local authority.
So more time for entry schedule, not just take it lying connecting flights (2 hours in Washington have not served a few weeks ago, I missed the connecting flight).
I then shot with the FX1 and Tripod - and thus never really had problems. However, I've stopped synonymous rather little in the big cities, but most of the time in national parks. There gabs no problems, synonymous if the FX1 and Tripod are indeed striking. Shooting in the amusement park ala Disneyland and Seaworld synonymous was not a problem there (I have not used the tripod, but a monopod).
But in principle, of course you actually need permission to shoot anywhere, and it can of course run into problems. All the more professional the matter is, the more likely this should be (for an amateur with no tripod has hardly anything, because the product rather Mistig and so that commercial is hardly usable - halt think the folks ....).
Antwort von oliver II:
Hello Drummer!
You can assume that you very quickly in big cities you somebody's official s.Shooting with Tripod prevent.
In my own experience that it is filmed in NY, Washington and San Francisco with one almost impossible to Tripod. Good went to New Orleans and Las Vegas. Unfortunately, my experience is already six years old and thus synonymous before 9 / 11
Maybe you can help next synonymous following link:
http://forum.slashcam.de/richtige-reisevorbereitung-fur-die-usa-vt36435.html?highlight=amerika
Antwort von WeiZen:
Moin,
I was with VX-2000 plus Tripod in SF after 9 / 11 no problem. (2003)
Antwort von Maik:
For the entry absolutely a carnet for the inch for the equipment:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnet
s.jedem airport ... and the same: camera case, serial numbers
show equipment list to check, go through to sign ... etc.
These are usually 30 minutes +, which are still schedule before departure.
For a domestic flight make the sometimes synonymous (to us what has happened),
which is then the direct connecting flight already a bit tight.
For our shoot, we have obtained weeks in advance of filming permits,
synonymous, but the topic was a bit tricky and we were with BetaSP
underway.
Shooting with the public, the Yanks have it not: I am already at
taking photographs in Berkley happened that a passer-by who Camera
harassed again felt worst cursing behind me and the film herschrie
wanted from the Camera ... as was required to enforce firm.
So either: highly official (with permission), or completely confident and
Then open (synonymous to educate in quick words) why and for what, etc..
Coyly with the camera from the hip or in secret is not that great and may
cause very strong reactions.
After 9 / 11's will probably be a bit different.
Have fun over there
M.
Antwort von beiti:
Perhaps synonymous in here is still something interesting, if there synonymous to Stillimage and not about this video:
http://www.dslr-forum.de/showthread.php?t=112630
Antwort von TheDrummer:
Thanks guys for your (shuddering) answers!
As an Austrian, I'd say - "the deppad san?"
Could you tell me maybe places where you Drehgenemigungen, Carnet get, etc.?
Antwort von Marco:
"Good it was in New Orleans and Las Vegas." For me, with tripod in Vegas almost impossible. And any official saw me, there's the question of the filming permit / work permit and then a warning. After half a day I had the tripod then packed up again and not brought out again.
Marco
Antwort von Maik:
Could you tell me maybe places where you Drehgenemigungen, Carnet get, etc.? We had our form at the time of inches in Frankfurt (airport), but there are certainly
synonymous s.der customs station near you call (previously?).
M.
Antwort von l21f:
hello ....
..... carnet atsgibts .... with the local Chamber of Commerce I currently running (for Korea in late August) ... until now everything is pretty straightforward ... then needs to be presented to customs (with software and ata carnet - scheduled for next week)
schönen gruss rob
Antwort von wolfgang:
For the entry absolutely a carnet for the inch for the equipment:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnet
s.jedem airport ... and the same: camera case, serial numbers
show equipment list to check, go through to sign ... etc.
I had honestly with any U.S. visit with, and had never been synonymous with this circumstance problems. But perhaps I had just lucky.
Antwort von wolfgang:
Shooting with the public, the Yanks have it not: I am already at
taking photographs in Berkley happened that a passer-by who Camera
harassed again felt worst cursing behind me and the film herschrie
wanted from the Camera ... as was required to enforce firm.
Sowas is synonymous already happened to me in Vienna, where the equipment looked more professional. For example, was once a passerby across entzürnt, as I have filmed on the open road with a JVC HD101. Or a granny and a grandfather, the extra stand with the car are still there, and have been (worried asked) whether they had done something wrong, because they have been filmed. This can be a linearly with professinalleren equipment is now probably happen anywhere. But as far as I know - please correct if it is different - has to sowas an individual is not entitled, while in a crowd was filmed. And the FX1 will of the majority Armateurs already perceived as "professional" - as synonymous of park rangers in national parks (there are indeed synonymous authority, but never what they had) to the shoot with tripod.
The situation is different with most of filming permits, which are almost always and everywhere (need theory) - and with representatives of the authorities may then well be quickly sensitive.
I've made so it's just that I have a little attention to the reaction of the environment. That I have taken in amusement parks stop consciously held one tripod monopod, or if necessary even had omitted.
But as I said, these are stop my (limited) experience.
Antwort von Maik:
I had honestly with any U.S. visit with, and had never been synonymous with this circumstance problems. But perhaps I had just lucky. Fortunately, yes.
If you put the camera through the re-to D then again have to pay duty,
can quickly mean a few baptized euros (+ punishment and procedures).
A colleague then had probably last year's Hamburg Inch bad luck because the camera had
be triggered (a VX2000) with nearly 2500th - EUR.
The money came true a few months later back (proof that the camera
D was purchased by invoice) and the procedure for half a year
later discontinued, but costs sowas synonymous Time and Money, and ultimately makes no fun.
M.
Antwort von Maik:
... For small devices (Camera and Lenses for example), it is enough sometimes synonymous
carry a copy of your purchase receipt so that you can save yourself the trouble synonymous. In addition, sowas ja synonymous sense if the equipment
stolen over there (for the insurance, the serial numbers, etc.)
The correct way is, however, really valuable equipment in the carnet.
M.
Antwort von WeiZen:
... For small devices (Camera and Lenses for example), it is enough sometimes synonymous
carry a copy of your purchase receipt so that you can save yourself the trouble synonymous. In addition, sowas ja synonymous sense if the equipment
stolen over there (for the insurance, the serial numbers, etc.)
The correct way is, however, really valuable equipment in the carnet.
M. Definitely not.
Antwort von wolfgang:
Fortunately, yes.
If you put the camera through the re-to D then again have to pay duty,
can quickly mean a few baptized euros (+ punishment and procedures).
A colleague then had probably last year's Hamburg Inch bad luck because the camera had
be triggered (a VX2000) with nearly 2500th - EUR.
So perhaps there are the Austrians - I am in Vienna - less strict. In any case, I was asked what he sowas in the past never, but it would have been. Therefore, always have safe copies of invoices with the luggage, no preference, obs was now the SLR camera or camcorder. In the event that a zealous tax collectors is precisely this question. Just as in any case, I carry copies of important travel documents - and there could be times an original will be destroyed.
Nee note on purchasing of HDV equipment: in the more tourist-oriented electronics stores - such as in San Francisco at Fischer Warf buy there, Thats has no HDV camcorder. The greatest thrill was there, the VX2100, or small consumer devices. accessories for the FX1 they want to sell me, yes, some Screw-on wide angle lenses, but at least with me while they had no luck. But otherwise have the local dealer the FX1 have admired rather almost reverently, were in the range sowas definitely not yet.
In general, I had the impression that synonymous current commercial buildings - such as the otherwise very large Wal-Mart - with such equipment were fitted extremely lousy. If we as IR-minute tapes needed, you have to really go looking for - and will not guarantee that its brand. One should look for safety belts equipped with enough of their own choice, otherwise it comes with some security problems. Also in National Stores was a rule, although some photo equipment to get (Batteries, Batteries, small appliances), but no mini-DV tapes.
Antwort von WeiZen:
It has therefore not changed anything. DV tapes are in short supply since the beginning in the malls in U.S.. Applies synonymous for Canada. That does not mean there are none. We must try, however, and if they are expensive. Had last year really made time before the beginning of my journey to work and used up the chains in the various malls in Canada, so not as much as in U.S.. Conclusion nil, as far as HDV. But last year it was still a little early. :)
Antwort von alpinmolch:
Pentecost was now on "over there". NYC, Niagara Falls, Connecticut, Massachusetts. Had neither s.Inch still in the cities or on the land problems. Had a JVC DV -5000 with ext. Micro and on self-built Steadicam in action. The cam in hand luggage, the Steadicam in the suitcase.
This was, however s.amerik. Inch open because I was not there, then it was only a notification in the case. Perhaps there was something suspicious on candling the Steadicam.
Alpine molch
Antwort von Maik:
[quote = "wolfgang"]
So perhaps there are the Austrians - I am in Vienna - less strict. In any case, I was asked what he sowas in the past never, but it would have been. Said colleague is with the equipment around the world fly
(longer documentary film project, they were a year around the globe
move),
in HH then upon entry, there were these problems.
You have festgesessen then 4 hours in the airport before it against
'Deposit' then were allowed to get out.
It's like everything in life: it may be,-but must not.
A carnet is an international and possibly avoid unpleasant discussions
and stress (especially if, for example as in the case, the tax collector before nightshift
And it did not mind that the task in a leisurely 4 hours
to edit;-Page, on the other, my colleague, after 15 hours
Flight and generally after a year of travel completely ausgepowert ... there is sowas
fast) a test of nerves.
M.
Antwort von TheDrummer:
When I read your posts so, I would not nimma 'over;)
I have perused me with arrest - really bad!
Sure, it does not have any way to go, but the story is real deterrent!
The problem is synonymous, that we are about 35 people, and then all have to wait because of me (or my luggage) 3h, they will certainly not pleased ...
Well - then I ask where I herbekomme times in Austria such a CARNET.
One problem I have here, however: I bought myself a digital camera (via ebay) only: the device is from Germany - could I get into trouble?
Antwort von WeiZen:
... there is sowas fast) a test of nerves. Honor a case for the prosecutor and the Dienstaufsichtsbeschwerde.
Soon I will be presenting s.Inch the evidence for my pants? Not really! Would be a godsend for me.
I only received the information today that our firm Customs inspector (in) a given across the bow has for their behavior at the customs check at our house. We must not leave things like.
Antwort von Maik:
Honor a case for the prosecutor and the Dienstaufsichtsbeschwerde.
Soon I will be presenting s.Inch the evidence for my pants? Not really! No, not for the vests,
only for the items for which one would have to pay regular Inch + VAT, and belong to
Cameras clear.
So either this whole institution abolish inches or just keep s.The rules.
The rules say who enters a country and has thereby declaring goods
it must be declared accordingly.
No announcements have gone through so inches is a criminal offense
(Customs fraud).
On the other hand synonymous Dienstaufsichtsbeschwerde not help, because the official act
its mandate, (synonymous when it turns out later that it was
is an error).
The burden of proof here lies with the person entering as long as this is not credible
demonstrate that the equipment was purchased in the D and was merely to travel,
civil servants must act according to his specifications.
Whether dealing with such cases, 1 hour or 4 hours required
also, there are no rules, ergo synonymous with a few possibilities
Dienstaufsichtsbeschwerde to achieve something worthwhile.
A Dienstaufsichtsbeschwerde,
such a word at all, which there is only so anyway here (in D and some other
nor unfriendly bureaucracies). Now imagine such a case, once the
Inch in ... Nicaragua ... or so ago.
So, ATA Carnet and we have no problems.
To the camera from D.
If I remember right (remember that is now synonymous for a few years ago), then
was on the TIR only make, model and serial number of the corresponding
Devices listed, the source was not for this story had no preference and synonymous
be detected ...
M.
Antwort von Diyadiavas:
Hi, again!
I have now taken up with the "boss" contact.
The mean - CARNET We do not need () not synonymous's remaining equipment, because with such a large (pre-announced), the different groups geandhabt ...
can anyone confirm?
THX!
Antwort von Maik:
Hi, again!
I have now taken up with the "boss" contact.
The mean - CARNET We do not need () not synonymous's remaining equipment, because with such a large (pre-announced), the different groups geandhabt ...
can anyone confirm?
THX! If it is YOUR equipment, or equipment from the boss?
In the first case, I'd go the safe side,
In the second, if he thinks ...
M.
Antwort von BjörnF:
Whether carnet or not?
You have not yet written, or have skipped ichs, with which camera (size) you will be traveling.
If it ne (H) is DV, and thus it goes through or as tourist-ambitious filmmaker, it is certainly worth considering ne, save yourself the effort of carnets.
If it really takes professional equipment is no getting s.Carnet.
And then you should be synonymous not only have this, but using synonymous - otherwise the nagging around and exit, the entry is not recorded. No idea how the Yanks are there on it, but in Eastern Europe, the partly synonymous controlled very fussy, so with serial number matching synonymous with accessories.
Björn
Antwort von r.p.television:
So I was 2 years ago - that is, after 9 / 11 privately in NY and Las Vegas.
Since I have no personal video camera, I took my little backup Sony PD-150 (VX2000).
When we at the entry into New York on the Queensborough Bridge and drove I kept the camera out the window, pulled the taxi driver my arm down.
He said, "Do not do that!". He thought that if I were filming bridges and public places, it may well happen that I would be arrested and my equipment is confiscated. Precisely because of 9 / 11.
Although I had no problems, and in the Empire State Building to film the State of Liberty and the like, but only in the background with the knowledge that they would then synonymous imprison the remaining 100 people who had a camera at the ready.
Bridges and entrances of buildings are taboo.
Las Vegas was then no problem. Even in some casinos (such as Caesar's Palace) was the Rotate no problem. After I was kindly pointed out in the MGM that I may shoot only when durchschwenken fast (so that no single-game actions are detailed profile), I then asked again, and often it was no longer a problem.
Otherwise, a bit cheeky. Draufhalten and gone.
Antwort von Lennart2:
Hi Leutz
synonymous've spent a while in NY and me synonymous thought about filming there. The fact is, of course, that the Americans, especially in New York for terror suspects do not think everything they know something. What I'm saying is this: If you mean film, with Tripod, Steadycam synonymous or what ever - the first sign simply the nearest police station. Stand in front, (can put your business card to one previously synonymous just do) on the stands that you are a director or cameraman (woman) from Germany and is good. The Americans are already suspicious sometimes, but often they have to synonymous base. Actually, the normal, reasonable people. When you first notice is what you do and who you are - the situation is quite different when one is in Shooting at 42.straße of crude in New York addressed a cop what you're doing.
So much for my experiences.
Cheers
Antwort von TheDrummer:
THX for your experiences!
especially the latter had a calming effect on me;)
I take my HC1, a Sony-Tripod and the IG-N800 steady with for the trip.
The tip with the police station I think is quite useful - since I do not know how do you then get a Drehgenemigung: /
I have now bought already 15 tapes with which I'll hopefully get along;)
United States - I am almost there! :-D
Antwort von dennis1809:
of course! - Would 'yes to have to be true!
now I can not even carry in hand luggage, the CAM!
... when I think of how people ...* deal with the suitcases ouch *
... in addition to the bags so you do not close down - and the luggage is up to max. 2000 ¬ insured! - That is too low: (
Antwort von WeiZen:
No Cam in hand luggage, no plane again!
Land of phobias, you see me again, unless I come by car or boat.
El Keida, you have already won! GW Bush has been afraid of toothpaste!
Antwort von wolfgang:
Well I'm glad that my trip to the USA have already behind me. The FX1 and the digital SLR camera we would have only given up very reluctantly, the probability of loss is so enormous.
But what do you do as a poor bastard, if you have already booked a plane ticket and paid for - which is not modifiable?
Antwort von TheDrummer:
... you mean ...
.... as I do - Well, THAT is the question!
IF possible, I would clarify mitn "boss" that in case of damage / theft HE the cost of a substitute must bear ....
.... I never imagined the thought, but what if the part had broken arrives in the States!? - Ausm rotation is then with great probability nix: (
This would require an insurance Xtra Stillimage / video-type equipment?
Tip s.alle brokers out there:
could create a "Stillimage / video equipment Ensurance" - given the present circumstances because we make sure a lot of money;)
Antwort von WeiZen:
Moin,
at the moment it is so that when U.S. flights only liquids in hand luggage are not allowed. So it is with Lufthansa on the sides.
The scheme applies to any cabin or covered only flights
from England.
It is synonymous in the future is certainly advisable to book direct flights only, not via London / Paris and / or through a U.S. hub, such as Delta Airlines makes it. Flights of FRA always go to LA with Delta about Cincinnati or Atlanta. That was before the 9 / 11 had a risk, now it would be foolhardy, the connection is gone, or stop flying takes even longer - 4 hours are advised. The same applies to flights over London. There it can be synonymous, that you arrive at Gatwick and has to go with the bus to Heathrow. Alone, this means having Weekdays 1.5 - 3 hours plus Check In!
This affects synonymous flights that do not have as ultimate goal, the USA, eg New Zealand flights, but have a stop in the U.S.. As soon as one lands there, it goes through the immigration control, synonymous if the same machine then weiterfliegt!
So no longer looking for the cheapest flight.
Antwort von Lothar 1:
I sthe right now facing the same problem as I s.Sonntag fly to Anchorage. Basically, I pack as usual, stable device in their pockets or suitcase and the camera's in hand luggage. Nowhere have I read that there are any restrictions. Although the control will be fierce, but till now my XL2 always passed without objection. For additional film equipment I have bought a Peli-case, which is very stable and meets the military standard. Is not cheap though, so the Euro 320, - but he has the advantage that it can be screened. This is not the case in aluminum boxes. They are activated by the inch and there is no right to compensation. The case is secured with small padlock combination locks that can be opened using a universal key that has been deposited with U.S. inch.
The locks cost around Euro 10, - and are available at Lufthansa and Kaufhof.
Insurance is to say that the household where the world retribution until approximately a loss of Euro 10.000, - arises.
Gruss
Lothar
Antwort von Gast1:
I travel regularly for years both professionally and privately, the U.S. synonymous. So far I have never been there, synonymous only the hint of a problem with equipment (2 to 3 cameras, camcorders, laptop) or during the shoot, synonymous to the 9.11. not. Neither during the shoot / photographing at fairs, amusement parks, main streets, public buildings, parks, stadiums or what-I-know me during the shoot anyone ever synonymous only looked lopsided. Not more than smiling or waving.
Even my family that lives there and has some busy photographed and film end members, has never been mentioned problems.
The private equipment is usually on the home insurance policy and often synonymous insured through their own credit card against loss, damage and theft. The commercial equipment can be easily assured in almost every insurance company. Anyone who has seen commercial drags stuff or crates and boxes with lots of equipment gives the impression, and when passing through customs no carnet or no import documents this can of course get as s.jeder customs frontier problems. The required documents renders a any international freight forwarding for about 50 ¬.
The import of 5 electronic devices in hand baggage for a trade show in the U.S. in January, took about 10 minutes.
So folks, do not let yourselves be nervous! From filming to America and what keeps the stuff :-)
Antwort von WeiZen:
For additional film equipment I have bought a Peli-case, which is very stable and meets the military standard. Is not cheap though, so the Euro 320, - but he has the advantage that it can be screened. This is not the case in aluminum boxes. They are activated by the inch and there is no right to compensation. The case is secured with small padlock combination locks that can be opened using a universal key that has been deposited with U.S. inch.
The locks cost around Euro 10, - and are available at Lufthansa and Kaufhof.
Moin Lothar
You once a link for the trunk?
@ Gast1
different from what you describe it, I know not synonymous.
If you s.Flughafen All TamTam behind him and is sitting in the car / camper, the world is right again.
However, because of the TamTam, you should now direct flights to avoid bevorzogen and London. The hubs have always caotisch ware and the pilots rarely punctual.
Antwort von superflow:
www.pelican.com
Antwort von Gast1:
@ Gast1
different from what you describe it, I know not synonymous.
If you s.Flughafen All TamTam behind him and is sitting in the car / camper, the world is right again.
However, because of the TamTam, you should now direct flights to avoid bevorzogen and London. The hubs have always caotisch ware and the pilots rarely punctual. Nice that you have experienced traveling in the U.S. seem just as easily as I and probably millions of others. I just fear that if the contributions of Wolfgang tender souls, Lennart 2, or read rptelevision, perhaps anxious to make himself or think that it would go into the former GDR:
(Citing Wolfgang)
But in principle, of course you actually need permission to shoot anywhere, and it can of course run into problems. (Citing Lennart2)
Du film, with Tripod, Steadycam synonymous or what ever - the first sign simply the nearest police station. Stand in front, (can put your business card to one previously synonymous just do) on the stands that you are a director or cameraman (woman) from Germany and is good. (Citing rptelevision)
Bridges and entrances of buildings are taboo. Rarely laughed so much ...
Antwort von TheDrummer:
OK - the situation has slightly changed:
You CAN take back electronic devices with the Hangepäck - although this may be only 45x35x16cm great!
Any kinds of liquids (synonymous Konaktlinsen fluid, Labello ,...)
are still prohibited and must be disposed s.Flughafen.
Antwort von TheDrummer:
OK LADS
Vorrüber The trip went well and I have my 10 tapes full.
the shoot with the HC1 + WW-Optics was no problem.
The Police Officers are simply passed it.
Even in a courthouse, I was filming!
(... and I was not disturbed ...): D
