Frage von Hannibal76:
Hello Slashcam,
times a short question regarding the image stabilizers.
If your normal films, then you have the Image Stabilization turned on or off?
I think in normal conditions on vacation or something (like no vibrations in the car, ...).
A friend told me now, he would always turn off the stabilizer, since he had even one with normal panning judder.
His cam is synonymous already 5 years old. Is he right, or you can shoot with image stabilization turned on, and well
rotate smoothly?
Thanks for the replies.
Antwort von transsib:
Hi!
So with my cheap-SonyDCR-HC17 jerky nothing.
However, its image stabilization in the test reports is synonymous always particularly praised. If I stand up properly and stable, which is Angleeingestellt Wide Lens on me a little and focus on it, I manage to pan it to suspect at first glance, the use of a tripod. When turned off the image stabilizer material acts against amateurish restless un blurred. As different as day and night, in my opinion. In short, I can use the image stabilizer, at least in my camera only recommend. Try it a try out. If you want, I can you like two synonymous comparative provide movies for download.
However, I will still with me at times to attach a separate question s.den Thread: is supposed to be better off with Bildtabilisator the image quality. I could not tell the difference because so far, but I do not synonymous made great comparison shots. Can one say that in general, or the degradation occurs only in certain situation?
Greeting
Oliver
Antwort von Stefan:
Judder when panning with image stabilization turned on ... I've seen on an old Panasonic. My Sony's have always been good-natured, so I let the image stabilizer on forever. Suggestion: Try it out.
Good luck
The fat Stefan
Antwort von CamPhilipp:
Hello all,
it is true that in theory is turned off image stabilization, the Picture higher Resolutionhat.
Since the MiniDV tape, but "only stores" with approximately 400,000 pixels, the picture may in a 800,000 pixels SONY Cam s.bleiben of stability, since it eats approximately 400,000 pixels. The remaining pixels are then designed for 400,000's tape. SD card slot for photos of the switched-off, of course, stability is better, she can take synonymous 800,000 pixels photos.
In general, I say: "Let the stabilizer, if you have no tripod to hand, to"
LG
CamPhilipp
Antwort von mausbaer:
Why should the Picture without a higher stability Resolutionhaben?
This applies only to electrical MUs. Stabilizers that in optical
Stabiliesierung has found the process in place and Lens
the Resolutionkeinen influence.
Antwort von bäda:
I do think synonymous
Antwort von Jan:
Hello you,
There are no current with optical stabilizer consume with 800,000 pixels, digital just pixels. The optical stabilizer. gibts in Sonyerst s.VX 2100, Panasonic 280 and Canon s.GS s.MVX 40 / 45i.
LG
January
Antwort von mausbaer:
There is, for example, the Canon XL2 with 3x800.000 pixels.
Antwort von Jan:
mausbaer because you have you back rausgewunden in consumer class said, no 3 CCD semi-professional with interchangeable ...
LG
January
Antwort von mausbaer:
It must be said, however, mean that the argument of the 800,000
Only 400,000 pixels onto tape does not come in 1-Chipper
True, as a result of color sharing with a 1-Chip Camera with
800.000 Pixeln only 266,666 effective pixels for the
Video available as a video - Pixel
3 CCD - Pixels are needed (3 coats).
I hope I have made myself understood.
For me it was synonymous only with the basic proposition that the
Stabi loss results in a pixel. That's not true.
LG
Jochen
Antwort von CamPhilipp:
@ Jochen:
Does that mean that can only come with 3-Chipper approximately 400,000 pixels onto tape, because a Einchipper must split the primary colors?
LG
CamPhilipp
Antwort von mausbaer:
@ camPhillip:
Yes, I think das
I found this following thread:
http://www.slashcam.de/dvfaq/FAQ-Frage_489.html
http://www.slashcam.de/info/reichen-800k- CCD-18790.html
On the fly, but are probably even more about it here in the forum.
Servus
Jochen
Antwort von techman:
Since I have 3 different camcorders and worked with many others already have, I would say synonymous with how I handle the image stabilizer. So in the devices with optical stabilizer (I have a Canon XM2, but even with a SonyVX2000, VX2100 and a TRV-900 worked), I always let the stabilizer, although it is claimed that when he Reißschwenks the Picture change adversely, but I could not detect any impairment. On my SonyTRV-110e (Digital8) of the (digital) stabilization runs synonymous forever, because I could not notice any image degradation and a tranquil picture is better than a blurred. With my new Canon MVX200i But the case is different: you notice when you turn on (also digital) stabilizer, a brightness loss of an estimated half Aperture. For this reason I put the stabilizer in Stativaufnehmen always at hand s.and shots do I need to weigh whether I am the brightness (which the Picture is synonymous colorful and better) is important or whether it must be absolutely stable (the thing the way, enough resolution because megapixel CCD, so it is strange why the picture is worse)
I hope my experience report helps a bit, my opinion is in any case: stabilizer really always try a call - and at their own camera as the picture is changing.
Cu Flo
Antwort von CamPhilipp:
@ Joe,
So, 3CCD Chipper each with 800,000 pixels and 1 / 6 "(Panasonic NV-GS280) have a higher Resolutionals 1CCD Chipper with 2,200,000 pixels and 1 / 3, 4" (eg Canon MVX40), right?
This is the 1 / 3, 4 "-noise and light-sensitive chip.
The 3 1 / 6 "chips with 800,000 (2.4 MP) are fainter and have more noise?) Or?
To compare Examples: http://www.produkte.panasonic.de/product/product.asp?sStr=4 @ - @ 10 @ 21 @ 120@@@@NV GS280EG-S @ Mini DV | Camcorders & @ = N & upper = old-fashioned & prop =
and
http://www.canon.de/For_Home/Product_Finder/Camcorders/Digital/MVX40/index.asp?ComponentID=270599&SourcePageID=26346 # 1
Who is now auflösungsmäßig better light-sensitive and-noise?
Help me please, Jochen,
LG
CamPhilipp
Antwort von Jan:
It must be said, however, mean that the argument of the 800,000
Only 400,000 pixels onto tape does not come in 1-Chipper
True, as a result of color sharing with a 1-Chip Camera with
800.000 Pixeln only 266,666 effective pixels for the
Video available as a video - Pixel
3 CCD - Pixels are needed (3 coats).
I hope I have made myself understood.
For me it was synonymous only with the basic proposition that the
Stabi loss results in a pixel. That's not true.
LG
Jochen If that's true (What I do not think) lie: Canon, JVC, Panasonic and Sony - is everything on the website of the Manufacturer, in several trade magazines have given Sony's net 800.000er with 400,000.
Most camcorders share the spectrum while recording into the components cyan, magenta, yellow and green, and convert it for playback in the colors red, green and blue. Yes, the multi-step conversion course leading to quality losses. But good 1CCD models work with an RGB filter (eg. SonyHC 90 or Canon MVX 45i) there shall be directly converted.
But what good is a 3 CCD technology, when (the Signalprozesssor after the CCD color management) makes no good?
Furthermore, should the "light" of meeting all the 3 CCD exactly the same point at cheap 3CCD models (400 ¬ actually) a miracle, for it must be an ideal Präzission.
Vorneliegt The one 1CCD model, especially in the consumer area, in terms of image quality have been identified, some SonyHC eg 90 vs. Panasonic GS 150th
LG
January
Antwort von ash3000:
@ Joe,
So, 3CCD Chipper each with 800,000 pixels and 1 / 6 "(Panasonic NV-GS280) have a higher Resolutionals 1CCD Chipper with 2,200,000 pixels and 1 / 3, 4" (eg Canon MVX40), right?
This is the 1 / 3, 4 "-noise and light-sensitive chip.
The 3 1 / 6 "chips with 800,000 (2.4 MP) are fainter and have more noise?) Or?
To compare Examples: http://www.produkte.panasonic.de/product/product.asp?sStr=4 @ - @ 10 @ 21 @ 120@@@@NV GS280EG-S @ Mini DV | Camcorders & @ = N & upper = old-fashioned & prop =
and
http://www.canon.de/For_Home/Product_Finder/Camcorders/Digital/MVX40/index.asp?ComponentID=270599&SourcePageID=26346 # 1
Who is now auflösungsmäßig better light-sensitive and-noise?
Help me please, Jochen,
LG
CamPhilipp Basically, you're right (though I of 1 / 6 inch CCD nothing
think), it is simply not the case then.
Generally, of course, a larger CCD has a higher sensitivity to light,
However, it depends on the overall package, for example, the density of the
Pixels on the sensor and in particular on the Optics.
Regarding the allocation of the spectrum, I am of the opinion that
which happened in front of the sensor, the 1CCD about streaks, the 3-Chipper on the prism that lies ahead for the sensors.
That fits, is simply the art in camera manufacturing.
Fit for a 3-Chipper can for 400 EUR but probably
do not expect (I do not know any synonymous, but when Jan says, wirds
probably) give any.
Whether you now have a 1CCD with 2.2 Mio.P or 3CCD with 3x800K-P
have, makes auflösungsmäßig normal PAL Resolutioneh
no difference, because both the limits of normal
Computerized system (not HDV) is far exceeding (at least) for video.
Servus
Jochen
Antwort von Jan:
Hello Jochen,
The GS 75 should really give it on the Internet now for almost 400 ¬, even I had in the business for a time 450 ¬.
I have said only that the signal processor and the rest of the signal processing electronics then make the enter key of color management and synonymous meaning, eg for color accuracy, subtlety of color transitions in the White Balance, Color processing etc, one or the other company is as Leading. The set used CCD's are often of Sonysynonymous if the camera company does not Sonyheisst, da gibts not so many leaps in quality, except in the photo area with Fuji.
You have probably meant the Bayer sensor which is accurate to the pixel value by 2 basis and made by 3. The question is exactly how many pixels needed by the digital stabilizer and Sonyzb whether the bill has made with the x2 / 3 even at the specified 400,000 pixels, or us, "bescheisst" and the calculation with the Bayer sensor simply turned around under the table ....
LG
January
