Infoseite // Vegas Pro 9 to edit AVCHD smoothly



Frage von Raphael80:


Hi All,

I want HD footage of my SonyHDR-XR520 (; m2t in the highest quality level) in Sony Vegas Pro 9 to edit or cut.

My system:

CPU: Intel i7 920 @ 2.67 GHz
Board: Asus P6T
RAM: 12GB Corsair DDR3-1600
Graphics: Geforce 9500GT 1GB
HDD: SATA 500GB (; System)
HDD: eSATA 1000GB (; video)
Audio: MOTU 828 MKII Firewire
OS: Vista x64


Unfortunately, the preview is not liquid, quality is set to "Auto Preview", but synonymous to "Auto Draft" jerky is always at the transition of the sequences, ie the new sequence begins, the Picture falters a little, but is then played smoothly.

I still add master effects one like Magic Bullet Looks addition, it runs at all is no longer liquid.

The CPU utilization is then just about 50 percent.

I've made all the project settings perfectly, so the same settings as the original material, the checkmark for the "optimal adaptation to the video material has enabled me synonymous.

I have tried many synonymous various settings, without improvement.

I am surprised really, since my system which actually was meant loosely packed! Memory and processing power fed to the hard disks should also take part, mind you with just ONE video track?

Vegas has been synonymous installed new, has not achieved anything.

The codec can not lie but because I think Vegas does not involve external codecs!? Have not installed yet CoreAVC (; the Media Player Classic).

Perhaps someone has a tip for me what I could do better?

Thanks and best greetings,

Raphael

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Antwort von deti:

There is not nothing broken with you. A liquid preview is rarely possible with HD material and not intended, as soon as any filter is enabled. Basically, when playing back pre-rendered, and after a few trials, the presentation should be a little smoother.
With a little experience and imagination you sure you can imagine how the rendered result will look like ;-)


Deti

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Antwort von RickyMartini:

Without massive GPU support is no real-time preview for AVCHD possible. That will probably remain a good while, as synonymous. Even a OctoCore would not make it.

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Antwort von Raphael80:

"deti" wrote: Basically, when playing back pre-rendered, and after a few trials, the presentation should be a little smoother.
With a little experience and imagination you sure you can imagine how the rendered result will look like ;-)
Deti


Hello,

yes that's true, it gets a little better after repeated playing.

I wonder where exactly halt the limiting factor, because the resources are so apparently there.

Thanks and regards!

Raphael

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Antwort von Raphael80:

"RickyMartini" wrote: Without massive GPU support is no real-time preview for AVCHD possible. That will probably remain a good while, as synonymous. Even a OctoCore would not make it.

Hello,

Unfortunately, to my knowledge, no hardware acceleration support to Vegas!?

However, the task manager that the CPU is not busy.

Thanks and regards!

Raphael

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Antwort von Raphael80:

Hello,

some users seem to have a similar problem is (probably s.der new version, 9). When rendering, the CPU usage is synonymous with only 50 percent.

In Vegas, there are some forum threads about this, but in no one solution.

At least the memory is fully utilized.

But overall this is very funny and a little sad synonymous.

Kindest regards,

Raphael

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Antwort von wolfgang:

Nope, that was already synonymous in Vegas 9.0 so - and has not changed in 9a. The real-time performance is simply limited, with AVCHD material.

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Antwort von ruessel:

Quote: I still add master effects one like Magic Bullet Looks addition, it runs at all is no longer liquid.

Can not synonymous, MBL only runs on a computer core .....

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Antwort von deti:

... since 9.0a, at least in my editing of AVC-material is not bad, but rather become more supple and it will be exploited while all nuclei. Even when rendering all the cores are at almost 100%, unless it is rendered an effect that was not well parallelized.

Annoying, but I find that tools like the "SonyPro Titler" are eternally slow when editing and then utilize only one core. I wonder if the developers have ever tried to build something more elaborate on.

Deti

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Antwort von koji:

I can only confirm everything.

after weeks of looking for the perfect cutting tool for those damn AVCHD files, I came across the new Vegas. But did the exact same problem:
jerk, which then becomes a little better. got it all on a win7 (; 64bit) with matching vegas and the AVCHD files on an external raid0 with western flat - no chance: jerky.

unfortunately

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Antwort von Raphael80:

Hello,

ok a brake is found. :-)

@ Wolfgang: I actually thought the leap of version 8 to 9, but that is now synonymous erstmal secondary.

@ Ruessel: That is because the "problem", I take out the MBL, the capacity utilization is about 90 percent! Thank you for reporting! Too bad that the plugin uses only one core.

I've long thought I MBL integrate into my current project, because I need different filters for different scenes. I then grabbed the scenes to different tracks and each of MBL on it as a track FX. In the rendering time was 85 minutes of video at tolerable 5 hours.

Then I'm also draufgepackt MBL as a master effect (; for fine-tuning was) and suddenly, the rendering time in more than 13 hours.

At the same time, there are apparently problems with the store when two instances of MBL run in series. Vegas s.and breaks it says would not have enough memory available.

After I removed the master effect, it runs again.

@ Koji: shakes it with you for ever? With me it only happens during transitions halt (; without plugins or visors!), Proportionately more will fade if, for example.

I still believe, however strange, and I still do not quite understand why the CPU is to be blame, lies the short-term exposure may s.einer so that this does not appear in task manager?

MB Looks that the system of slow, as it uses only one core, but I can understand very well, especially if you do not use two instances of different nuclei.

S.alle Thanks and best regards!

Raphael

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Antwort von koji:

so ... have almost a perfect solution for AVCHD

got me the new RC of win7 (; 7600, 64bit) and loaded so I cut my AVC with 1080/60i smoothly in CS4. 'm still excited at the moment. let's see.

Now other ne frage:
where to install it at the MBL vegas? got the 9s on a 64 bit system - that is synonymous 2 "programs" folder. Now I install the MBL there where he wants, but somehow it is not selectable for me in vegas.
what am I doing wrong? All plugins should be taking? would logically.

thanks

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Antwort von amlug:

@ koji: how it looks from your PC to it? In an article you wrote from January to have an AMD Phenom quad-core ...?

Looks like as if WoWus prophecy come true, as far as the lighter AVCHD editing in Windows 7 ...

Regards
Amlug

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