Frage von Marinus:
Looking for a good video tripod in the forum and have looked up. Here I am on the Velbon DV -7000 encountered. This is the forum has been recommended several times. So I thought these recommendations and ordered a company a
Velbon video tripod DV -7000 Pro Video Aluminum Tripod for the upper price of 96 euros. "
After three days arrived at the appointed Tripod me. When unpacking my eyes were always bigger. What came to light because, should a professional video tripod of his luxury. My disappointment was boundless. What I really felt in my hands was a very ordinary photo tripod with a Velbon video tripod head PH-368. Instead of a Tripod Kugelhalbschale was with an adjustable center column equipped. Such Tripods I have several designs and sizes for my cameras already in use for years. What it really was, was a useful video tripod with Kugelhalbschale and Spikes s.den feet. Side should be synonymous to the so-called video head really be useful. Since I have the same concerns, because for 40 euros is no ordinary video Eiger to the market. With a weight of 3.5 n.ist this also not a lightweight tripod. Also, the transport of 70 cm size I do not like. It is for my terms for such a tripod too long. In short, this was professional video aluminum tripod is an absolute wrong and for my camcorder unusable. My disappointment was great, although I have a Velbon Tripods PK-781 Video-Neiger with PH-268 for many years and with this have always been very satisfied. However, this tripod outdoors use exclusively with a Mamiya RB 67 is used.
From an old movie amateur, I received the good advice, my Manfrotto 525 Tripod MBV and make a video head Sachtler DV 6 to buy. In his opinion, this is the best equipment for your camcorder of 1 a.m. to 9 p.m. kg and was very important, so I am paying only once for a video tripod, as long as I am synonymous this hobby will still operate.
Now my question is, has this man right or are there better suggestions?
Marinus
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
My disappointment was boundless. What I really felt in my hands was a very ordinary photo tripod with a Velbon video tripod head PH-368. Instead of a Tripod Kugelhalbschale was with an adjustable center column equipped. Tripods Such, I have several designs and sizes for my cameras already in use for years. What I really was, was a useful video tripod with Kugelhalbschale and Spikes s.den feet. One look at the Velbon website would suffice to cover all these facts out
before the purchase!
Otherwise: I have the 7000 synonymous (as tens Forums Members synonymous) and am so happy. Who the mark "professional" with an Internet merchant unquestioningly gives faith (especially for a price <100 ¬), is your own fault ... sorry, this is but look at ebay for example, what it all s.digitalen "camcorders" Aiptek below the threshold as a "professional camera" is offered.
The fluid head makes me soft buttery pan, which attenuation is even adjustable. The transfer size is with my DV 7000 almost exactly 58 cm (as measured). What weight is concerned, is derived from this for me synonymous "stability" from. Sure, there are slight Tripods, but the blow from the mirror in a DSLR tremor advised (even experienced, the Mamiya RB 67 per SD I had proposed synonymous times). I have even a synonymous Sachtler dragged to a concert, it was with much heavier security than 3.5 kg.
BG, Andreas
Antwort von Marinus:
@ Andreas Kiel
Sure, there are slight Tripods, but the blow from the mirror in a DSLR tremor advised (even experienced, the Mamiya RB 67 per SD I had proposed synonymous times).
On Tripod should be in the Mamiya RB 67 synonymous mirror the active solution.
Greeting Marinus
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Professional Aluminum Video Tripod ... the upper Because before you purchase here in the forum have made smart, you'll be a marketing baloney does not have believed: A professional tripod upper looks different - but especially its price tag looks different gaaanz ;-)
... What it really was, was a useful video tripod with Kugelhalbschale ... Then, the DV7000 is not logically the best choice. However, I do not quite understand what you are in this price range expect - especially since all the pros and cons of Velbon here in the forum have been very intense durchgekaut or the technical data such as weight and length of transportation simply synonymous on the Velbon website would be found. Conclusion: In its class is the Velbon an absolute buy recommendation (for a large part of the film are 100 euros for a tripod now look at the ceiling). Anyone who wants something better, a lot to spend.
... an absolute bad ... I assume that you still have right of return? Then simply send the part back.
... Manfrotto 525 Tripod MBV and make a video head Sachtler DV 6th .. ... In his opinion the best equipment for your camcorder of 1-9 Kg .. has this man ... right? His tip coincides with the least experience of professionals and the concurring tips here in the forum: The 525 is the next sensible step for the Velbon and a Sachtler head is anyway a purchase for life. The DV6 I know specifically, but the DV series is currently - according to experiences with heads of Manfrotto, Vinten and Secced - synonymous my Recommendation.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Aljoscha.Niko:
I can understand this view, unfortunately, synonymous not quite confirm, as already said, you can Sogut like all important data on the website of the manufacturer to see, and since I also Velbon DV -7000 my own name, I believe that in the Price Range (around ¬ 100) is almost nothing better for me. And if the dealer where the purchase was made, the Velbon as a "professional video Alumiumstativ upper" describes, in my opinion, is the dealer's fault, and not the Velbon Manufacturer. Such awards are intended only to attract many interested parties. And as I said, are the real prices for professional video tripods really something fierce ... ;)
MfG
Antwort von castingeurope:
but it is always ... who buys cheap, buys twice!
Next, go to Walimex and you wonder the professional things are so cheap ...
Antwort von Nacho:
Can I just follow - did himself synonymous a dv7000. If you're disappointed you have the number of threads here do not really read.
And how are you on the idea that the DV7000 has spikes?
Antwort von Marinus:
I think it is time s.der some misunderstandings. The Velbon DV 7000 at eBay was not, as erroneously assumed of Andreas, but with a photo merchant. The statement:
VIDEO Series
Velbon Video Tripods offer with your 2-way fluid swivel heads the operation sequences in a quiet and safe to film. Radial columns and anti-slip end caps provide added stability and grip.
DV -7000 (V20570)
Professional Video Tripod with leichtläufigem 2-way fluid swivel head.
Weight: 3.47 kg (Manfrotto 525 MBV 3.5 kg)
Length: 70.0 cm (72 cm Manfrotto)
Stand Height: 162.50 cm
Lowest setting height: 57 cm
Tripod leg diameter: 29 mm
Maximum load: 4.5 kg
Quick release plate: QB-6RL (V20908)
Tripod Head: PH-368
Featured Case: Case # 630L
is the original text in Velbon 2007 catalog of the distribution company Jobo. It is true that I have the statements on this tripod, which is a Still Image and video tripod is not the forum members and the company believed had Jobo. This tripod has several threads (Andreas: how tens synonymous forum members) and be praised as a video tripod for usable held. Many people are supposedly synonymous very satisfied. This must be yet but I can not be. For me, not the price but the quality is crucial. It comes to me so that I would be a Porsche driver, the proposal to make, retreaded tires to drive the price is incidental. I would to any other person are not synonymous, the video heads 501 or 503 recommended.
The Velbon Tripods s.gleichen I've given day with the ground that I have a video tripod and no tripod photo ordered. For me there is still the old principle of merchant loyalty and faith before.
Bernd E. wrote: His tip coincides with the least experience of professionals and the concurring tips here in the forum: The 525 is the next sensible step for the Velbon and a Sachtler head is anyway a purchase for life. The DV6 I know specifically, but the DV series is currently - according to experiences with heads of Manfrotto, Vinten and Secced - synonymous my recommendation.
This recommendation, I have put into me and with a competent firm inquired. For about 2500 euro I get my desired of the Tripod consisting of:
Manfrotto 525 MBV, Central SPRB spider 531, 540 BB shell backpack, tripod, bag MBAG 100P, Spike rubber shoes 565, PRO 523 remote and a Sachtler fluid head DV 6 SB (1-9 kg). Since I am solely with camcorders called Henkelmann class movies, I think that this tripod compilation for me is absolutely correct.
For well-intentioned advice, I would like to warmly. The Velbon DV 7000 should more correctly as a photo tripod for video recordings offered.
Marinus
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
was not on eBay, as erroneously assumed of Andreas no, I have
not accepted. On ebay, I have referenced, where the percentage of "professional" is s.höchsten scrap.
The Velbon Tripods s.gleichen I've given day with the ground that I have a video tripod and no tripod photo ordered. The DV is -7000 by the Manufacturer is defined as a video tripod. (see http://www.velbon-tripod.com/video.htm). Due to the two-way head is there as a photo tripod even more useless. Photographers need not synonymous Fluid head.
What should now have some photo dealers, this Tripod itself as a photo tripod now classified?
The term "professional" in this country always solves certain associations, the term is now not protected. The true professional is probably the word "professional" neck hairs tingling get (I synonymous, but I'm still not a professional).
According to your logic, incidentally you can not synonymous with Sachtler shopping. On their website is about "Camera Support" for a longer introduction, it begins:
"With an innovative tripod head it started - today is the camera support of Sachtler fluid heads for perfect, stable Tripods and Pedestal and
(...)" not a single time the word "professional" implies. I Sachtler website now with a few clicks in the area
overflown * tripod) and am on this key concept not even pushed ...
BG, Andreas
*) The word can, of course, but still appear somewhere ...
Antwort von Jörg:
Hi,
I somehow understand this story is not. Without the Velbon detail to try to (habs synonymous and I'm happy), here too, the contribution launch Tripod for 100 euros, because it is not equivalent to professional performances. Whether a certain naivety exists like everyone for themselves.
Finally, he bought a tripod the factor of 25 is more expensive, and is satisfied.
So far so good, he is content with the mistaken idea of the Velbon.
The Comparison with the Porsche of course, lags on all legs, who owns this car is certainly not for bicycle tires to decide if it is synonymous perfect solution as it gets advertised.
In so far has solely the buyer's right to information is not sufficiently perceived.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Weight: 3.47 kg (Manfrotto 525 MBV 3.5 kg) ... Length: 70.0 cm (72 cm Manfrotto) Note this comparison, however, that the Velbon data for the complete with tripod head, which of Manfrotto but only for the legs alone: By DV6 comes on top of a lot of them.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Gast.:
@ Andreas
According to your logic, incidentally you can not synonymous with Sachtler shopping. On their website is about "Camera Support" for a longer introduction, it begins:
"With an innovative tripod head it started - today is the camera support of Sachtler fluid heads for perfect, stable Tripods and Pedestal and
(...)" not a single time the word "professional" implies. I Sachtler website now with a few clicks in the area
overflown * tripod) and am on this key concept not even pushed ...
Has it ever needed Sachtler euphemistically with words, such as professionally to advertise. For Sachtler counts alone quality and every ambitious filmmaker, this is known. If necessary, Sachtler at an appropriate offer.
Also a filmmaker
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
Has it ever needed Sachtler euphemistically with words, such as professionally to advertise. For Sachtler counts alone quality and every ambitious filmmaker, this is known. If necessary, Sachtler at an appropriate offer.
Next up someone complains that he did, despite the Zauberwörtchens "professional" does not get professional product, my reference to the word choice in a real professional unbestreibar Manufacturer should be based on the false conclusion indicates "where professional draufsteht must drinsein professional", because the opposite is (too often) true.
Sachtler has certainly not necessary, that is of course correct. This is synonymous s.Ruf which is difficult to have developed - and rightly so. As I said, totally different league.
BG, Andreas
Antwort von Marinus:
... Weight: 3.47 kg (Manfrotto 525 MBV 3.5 kg) ... Length: 70.0 cm (72 cm Manfrotto)
Note this comparison, however, that the Velbon data for the complete with tripod head, which of Manfrotto but only for the legs alone: By DV6 comes on top of a lot of them.
Gruß Bernd E. Absolutely correct. The Manftotto / Sachtler weighs as described in my thread, 6.600 n.bei complete a total length of 85 cm.
Greeting Marinus
Antwort von Markus:
... "where professional draufsteht need professional drinsein" because the opposite is (too often) true. This antonyms (opposite) context, it is very obvious. I've quickly a few pages on the website durchgeklickt Sachtler and am naturally in the body text nowhere synonymous only partly on the words "professional" or "professional" gestolpert.
In contrast, we find the word "professional" practically every viertklassigen-Cheap Hama tripod. So just in advertising. You gaukelt a bit before that so it does not exist, and man must decide for itself what these science and what is fiction. ;-)
Antwort von Jan Merlin:
I've synonymous DV 7000 and largely synonymous'm so happy, but now wants to but in a new Tripod invest.
I always had the kit Manfrotto Tripod with the 525 and the 501 head favors. But now someone has written above that the 501 head is not to recommend it. Why?
I have the 501 in price performance is always very well kept ...
Antwort von hergerger:
The Manfrotto 501 is
not a full fluid Eiger. only the 503 is. I have both and can compare them. honestly, the real fluid Eiger Velbon of 7000 is somewhat unstable for larger camgewicht (a1, FX1), but he schwengt better (do not flick the start) than the 501 Incidentally, the v7000, I still synonymous. It weighs half of my 525/503 Manfrotto tripods and makes for light cams like.
gruß kroky
Antwort von Axel:
The Manfrotto 501 is not a full fluid Eiger. only the 503 is. I have both and can compare them. honestly, the real fluid Eiger Velbon of 7000 is somewhat unstable for larger camgewicht (a1, FX1), but he schwengt better (do not flick the start) than the 501 Incidentally, the v7000, I still synonymous. It weighs half of my 525/503 Manfrotto tripods and makes for light cams like. I agree. The timber class of the good manufacturers Manfrotto tripod, Vinten and Sachtler is the price difference to the Velbon not worth all the pros and cons
weighed up against each other. The times that I have Manfrotto identical to Vinten lent to "butter soft" panning with the VX2000 to do, I regret s.diesem fair. From Schlepperei through the crowded halls, I was so flat that I barely up with the concentration, the swing - just like the Velbon - required. You know this: With the other hand, his head slightly
slowing down, then the swing clean.
The next higher class, in the case of Sachtler exceed the ¬ 1000 threshold, then the big difference.
Antwort von Jan Merlin:
Wow, so I advise you buy from the 501?
I have an FX1 and because the DV 7000 is sometimes not the best ...
kroky hast thou the new 501 or the old? For me, only in the new issue. And more than 600 euros, I would like to spend no case. The kit with 525 and 501 + for bag's already 532 euros ... Since the true price-performance ratio ... I always thought!
Antwort von hergerger:
I have the new 501hdv. I have exactly your idea 501/525 kombi bought, but still had my 503 and this is simply better. if you want 501, I would sell him. he was only 2 times for relatively short use, is virtually new (wrapping available).
gruß kroky
Antwort von Jan Merlin:
hmm, exactly why you'll find it so much worse? and what have you for a Camera drauf gehabt?
And at what price would you want to submit it?
Antwort von hergerger:
an old mill with the work I like sony vx-2000, and canon a1 / agm 20th 501hdv the upside, I would sell for 150 ¬. it is now not a fluid head and the notes to the pan (at start and s.ende less within the trip). clear, if you're prepared and well-practiced art, this can be done in order. it is an inexpensive, robust video Eiger. but since you like s.details rumtüffelst (kamerakran for 80 ¬) you should certainly have fallen.
gruß kroky
Antwort von hergerger:
I have an FX1 and because the DV 7000 is sometimes not the best ...
this combination, I have synonymous, but I find them in order. The DV -7000 only with a lot of gusty wind to shake my old Bilora started because a lot earlier.
BG, Andreas
Antwort von Jan:
I can not play so much, yes the 501er works with Teflon washers, comes the s.dem 503 Fluid head (with silicone fluid-filled chamber). It is quite a difference there, but I get good pans synonymous with the 501er out predisposition probably, I do s.and be synonymous with the second hand.
Well the head of the DV 7000 (PH 368) I think despite fluid effect is not as good as the Teflon höherklassige 501er.
When pan is for me even the small Manfrotto 700 / 701er a bit better, but wins the DV 7000 just to test - with little money to achieve.
Somehow, you always often misunderstood, I had never said (others actually not synonymous), the DV 7000 is the tip of the iceberg, but it is under the plastic Billigheimern of up to 100 ¬ group have a better class, which saw well-known magazines such as Active & Video Videofilmen similar. When I look at others as "video" Tripods view ......
Also because I have it in another post and have since read again by the user of cocoa have been withdrawn, the car is to stand fast changing situation to the next filming there, so the mere transportation.
I know but some filmmakers whose content does not loose the money sitting around dollies & cranes to buy & rent, but nevertheless the film a more professional look to give. You can even have a stand with the car (like I said really what else is thinking) on flat surface with experienced hands, and many attempts reasonably short rides suitable target.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Jan Merlin:
@ Andreas - Yes, the DV7000 is not synonymous really bad! Especially for the price! But I watch frequently at concerts and since then in absolute telephoto range. Since every wiggle like an earthquake.
Perhaps I should question my times are:
I have the DV7000 and and am quite happy with it. Nevertheless, I want to buy a better tripod and am prepared max. 600 euros to spend.
Has anyone a different idea than the combination with 501 Manfrotto 525 HDV Head? Or would be kicked out the money?
MfG Jan (Merlin)
Antwort von Axel:
Has anyone a different idea than the combination with 501 Manfrotto 525 HDV Head? Or would be kicked out the money? I believe it would be das How said, Sachtler DV2 schrappt re always on the ¬ 1000 mark, but it is an entirely different class (which I myself was able to convince). See eg
here. Sachtler Tripods course you can buy safely used synonymous. See synonymous
here. My next purchase for alaIfl.
Antwort von Jan Merlin:
hmm, but the 525mvb from Manfrotto is s.and itself is OK, right?
Are there comparable for less money?
And there would be a synonymous Sachtler head daruf fit?
My ceiling is as I said at 600 ¬ and I would because I believe very much like the Manfrotto Kit (525 + ground spreader +501 + bag) for 532 ¬ and buy when the head is not good later Sachtler retrofit ... That would go but is not it?
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... 525mvb from Manfrotto is s.and itself is in order ...? Yes, and in every case.
... there would be a synonymous Sachtler head daruf fit ?!... If the capita also have a 75mm-Nivellierhalbkugel owns, he fits it. For these are the Sachtler heads to DV8 (which have larger 100mm-hemispheres).
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Jan Merlin:
Cool! Thanks Bernd!
Antwort von Jan Merlin:
So, now I have the kit with the 525 and the new Manfrotto 503HDV of purchased ... will you still give me about it like it ...
