Frage von tyson:
Hello I have a long way after me and her today the Panasonic NV-G230 camcorder purchased. Now I have for the first time a few shots on my 42 plasma viewed and am really scared. The picture is totally blurred and noisy or unclear and not really "colorful"!
Did someone perhaps a hint that what might lie? In the instructions I can find no point in amending the Resolutiono.ä. mentioned.
Antwort von UlmsSkyliner:
Incorrectly connected?
How is it on the computer the Picture `?
Antwort von otnemem:
I did it with S-video connected to the calculator, it is better but I do not really synonymous toll.
Antwort von Frank B.:
The Panasonic DV camcorder is a model, the SD 720x576 pixels dissolves. On a large monitor so noticeable that it is only SD Resolutionist and much s.der HDV Resolutionfehlt. Sure, it rastert. An HDV - or AVCHD camcorder, the relevant resolution, which the monitor is required.
Frank
Antwort von otnemem:
This means that this category of camcorder only for Pc monitor less suitable for TV and let the plasma TV's?
Antwort von Eva Maier:
Surely you have 14 days right of return, which then solves the problem easily.
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Antwort von FrankB.:
This means that this category of camcorder only for Pc monitor less suitable for TV and let the plasma TV's? On "normal" tube TVs / monitors or monitors with standard resolution, the camera, thanks to 3-chip technology ensure a better picture than some others. High-resolution monitors, but should be synonymous with a high-resolution signal numbers are. Otherwise, they are almost meaningless.
Before you do buy a new camera, you should see only a few questions for you to clarify.
1. What do you want to shoot with your recorded it? Should they land on DVD and so disseminated (possibly within the family circle away) or should they be placed on the Internet? Then you need not necessarily be high, because your finished product does not require.
2. If your film s.PC be processed? HDV and AVCHD especially need considerably more hardware than the DV format.
From AVCHD is still not recommended when s.PC to be processed, although it is slowly Programs that possible.
3. Do you want your recordings necessarily for your 42 "monitor or want your current recordings in future projects to integrate, then you should try to exchange the camcorder and you a HDV Camera procure.
Frank
Antwort von otnemem:
So I will be in October and the father wants the films on the television and watch synonymous to burn to DVD in the family to "distribute".
Antwort von Frank B.:
So I will be in October and the father wants the films on the television and watch synonymous to burn to DVD in the family to "distribute". Only to once again make clear: High resolution images can be easily retired in the editing program on a standard format can be expected. The upscaling is very much harder. Where the image information is missing, it is hardly possible to re-generate.
Frank
Antwort von VolkerS:
The Panasonic DV camcorder is a model, the SD 720x576 pixels dissolves. On a large monitor so noticeable that it is only SD Resolutionist and much s.der HDV Resolutionfehlt. Sure, it rastert. An HDV - or AVCHD camcorder, the relevant resolution, which the monitor is required.
Frank Is plasma on HDV, there is nowhere above the question of
Antwort von Frank B.:
Is plasma on HDV That would indeed be sure to still be clarified. I just assumed at 42 "plasma. Because I really do not know who is not HDready. But everything is possible.
Frank
Antwort von VolkerS:
Is plasma on HDV
That would indeed be sure to still be clarified. I just assumed at 42 "plasma. Because I really do not know who is not HDready. But everything is possible.
Frank The older models were sometimes not even full PAL resolution.
HDready says I know only that a device is technically capable of HDTV images, but nothing about the ultimate quality or Resolutiondes image.
Antwort von Frank B.:
The older models were sometimes not even full PAL resolution.
HDready says I know only that a device is technically capable of HDTV images, but nothing about the ultimate quality or Resolutiondes image. Whether the device is HD-ready, we have to notify the thread starter. If that is there must be an increased resolution compared to the PAL-SD standards. This is clear from the HD-ready specifications. The possibility of an HD signal display is not enough for the HD-Ready label it. This beautifully Assessment:
http://www.hifi-regler.de/hdtv/hd-ready.php
Frank
Antwort von Babaluba:
Often synonymous rauschen plasma TVs of simple house. I know of very few plasma television, a noise-free picture (synonymous with HD, or really true HD display) have and they are mostly unaffordable. Especially in the dark colors, s.schlimmsten in black, are all still very much improved.
Check it out in the media market, where 30 different HD devices show the same picture, None is truly noise-free ...
Antwort von Daigoro:
... but nothing about the ultimate quality ... Overall, the quality has finally garnicht. I have not even HD ready device, but in the friend circle and relatives already rife latest're the last World Cup.
But the very popular grad <1000 euro "bargain" aus'm discounters or DIY, I personally find very disappointing.
Degree in the interpolation of PAL material (but not only) cruel. Is not only s.niedrig aufgelosten material. Good plasma (or LCD) Television brings as much schicker results.
Antwort von thos-berlin:
Interesting times would be synonymous with Comparison of a normal television picture. It also has PAL resolution. If the camera image blur punkto just looks like a normal TV, then the camera probably OK. (Have you ever recordings ever been on a normal Television seen?).
One is inclined to the viewing of camera images on large screens synonymous with adverse Betrachtuungsposition. While the film on television or of DVD (PAL synonymous) from the comfort of your sofa to be, watch the films of the connected camera in front of the Television crouching to schhließlich must Camera synonymous operated. As does the PAL Picture system-/auflösungsbedingt SOWISO "grotte badly from. (I know this of my Panasonic "Einchipper" GS11 and my 32 "flat panel)
I can not really imagine that any other amateur MiniDV Camera much better pictures (on that screen) will deliver.
And the noise can be due synonymous, that the manufacturers of the advertised "Recordings by candlelight 'is all too literally. Good video needs more light.
on the calculator, it is better but I do not really synonymous toll.
And that may be the famous "interlaced problem. You see" kammartige "blurred edges in s.senkrechten (even the lightest) horizontal movements? It provides you each s.PC displayed PAL signal! This is true not only for camera shots. Self-produced DVDs show the synonymous, pressed "purchase DVDs" systematic mostly not. (But that's another problem)
Antwort von Gerdy:
Hello,
have your discussion with interest pursued ...!
I stand close to me synonymous NV GS230 to buy. But until now I still do not know if I see a camera with
a chip or
3 chips to buy with it?
We have a flat screen synonymous (no plasma) and want the camera for the "normal" household use! What would you now recommend (synonymous with regard to quality in the future in the TV !)?????? I am very clear that I am for this price class is not "HD" model do! A dealer told me the GS230 because of the 3 chips and better quality according to recommended!
Thank you very much.
Gerdy
Antwort von Jan:
There is not much better than a 1 Chipper, Chipper at 1 with optical stabilizer, the difference is even lower (GS 80 & H 20) as a 3 CCD with digital stabilizer. You have to test yourself if you think HD Television Picture s.deinem enough, not every company in the TVs may well "blow up". What I read in the last time have seen - it was very difficult bearable (PAL s.Full HD - good company)
VG
Jan
Antwort von Markus73:
There is not much better than a 1 Chipper, Chipper at 1 with optical stabilizer, the difference is even lower (GS 80 & H 20) [...] Hm, just to the often quoted test images to find the difference between the GS80 and GS230 quite striking, particularly in image sharpness is concerned.
What I read in the last time have seen - it was very difficult bearable (PAL s.Full HD - good company) Does that then synonymous for "normal" PAL HD television on such devices?
Gruß,
Markus
Antwort von Gerdy:
If I understand correctly, the 3 chips "only" a better / cleaner presentation of the images, or ...?
If your camcorder, but all this price class record with 400,000 pixels, because then where will these serious qualitative difference (or is it all just pure personal feelings / Anssichtssache?)?
Thank you
Gerdy
Antwort von Markus73:
If I understand correctly, the 3 chips "only" a better / cleaner presentation of the images, or ...? Well, not quite. I confirm time as simple and practical as possible, if perhaps not technically synonymous throughout wasserdicht: With only 1 chip is not all pixels of each color to be used in a kind of grid filter ( "Bayer filter"), which ensures that every pixel only 1 of the 3 primary colors abbekommt the corresponding value. It takes a lot s.Mathematik until you finally made this - ultimately incomplete - information is a useful color image is calculated.
For 3CCD cameras, there are actually dageben per pixel synonymous separate pixels, the color of the 3 primary colors complete record (which is then in the amateur field is not as completely synonymous saved, but that's another matter ...).
This leads to generally clean colors and differentiated into a sharper picture.
Gruß,
Markus
Antwort von Gerdy:
Hi Markus,
and what would be your Conclusion:
the 1Chiper of Panasonic NV GS80, or the 3 Chiper NV GS230? The camcorder is for normal Haugebrauch s.einem Flatscreen serve!
Gerdy
Antwort von Markus73:
Hi Markus,
and what would be your Conclusion:
the 1Chiper of Panasonic NV GS80, or the 3 Chiper NV GS230? The camcorder is for normal Haugebrauch s.einem Flatscreen serve! I think the picture of the 230 have a good bit better. The GS80, I know of several reports here (users were not always satisfied) and of test images, but they themselves did not Tested a few other small Einchipper allerdings schon.
What Jan said above, however: Both have only "normal" PAL resolution, ie no HD cameras. When playing on modern high-resolution screens will have a certain effect setting blur because the camera does not deliver as much as the TV show could be (which in principle but the standard for television is synonymous).
The question is therefore whether you like the simple PAL Resolutiongenerell last. If yes, then you'll get with the 230 (as with all really 3CCDs of Panasonic) is a very decent picture, good lighting times provided.
Get it in case of doubt, such a camera (GS 230, 320 ...), keep an eye on possible return and try it alone. Be fair when you test and choose a distance, the later synonymous viewers will have when they watch your films.
Gruß,
Markus
Antwort von Gerdy:
Hi Markus,
Thanks for your help.
The problem is simply that one in the whole flood of information no longer knows what is right!
Many synonymous say the GS80 a better / sharper picture than the GS230 produces!
Is there a good alternative / recommendation in this Preiskklasse?
Gerdy
Antwort von Markus73:
Many synonymous say the GS80 a better / sharper picture than the GS230 produces! So after everything I saw here, I would firmly oppose. The GS80 may provide a decent picture, but s.die Dreichipper they do not come out. She reminds me of Picture s.die her other entry-1CCDs of Panasonic.
Is there a good alternative / recommendation in this Preiskklasse? Hm, a common standard recommendation here is the 320th In good light you'll get in this price range for standard PAL not get much better picture.
I myself use the GS180 (and last year's model almost identical to the GS230). Differences to the better models lie mainly in the equipment, but hardly in the picture. I am very happy with it.
Gruß,
Markus
Antwort von Jan:
Please go into a market that is often an HDTV screen in the department, and leave you in a quiet minute (do not fuss Saturday in) a camera connected, or s.Besten Both. GS 230 has a small advantage there, because with her as opposed to a GS 60 & 80 S-video output is available - the better image of the HD community.
We must always clearly defined, you're a beginner or already an experienced filmmaker to have pretty good claims?
A newbie can be difficult to have a real image edge difference between a GS 230 and GS 80 of a note, especially if he only has a device at home and the other never does. You compare sharpness losses, vignetting and CA's? If you zoom into the higher of the GS 230 vorprescht may still be light when filming, the more decreases, the focus tends to be lower income, and only of amitionierten filmers to see. The optical stability of the GS 80 provides for less synonymous Image errors. Na klar is synonymous the GS 230 benefits.
If, however, I s.den VAD picture recall test, gabs as nearly the same score 20 or 21 - would have to look again, I think only in sharpness gabs a very good to good.
Like I said, I was often of customers in the last time asked:
"Close it, please have a look quickly SDR H 250, H 20, GS 320, GS 230, SDR S 10 or GS 60 s.den HD television, so I can make an impression"
There were no customers satisfied with the picture was, the majority said, because the SD seen television pictures are clearly better.
If you satisfy Gerdy, nimm halt the GS 230, the headphone output, microphone input, S-video output, an accessory shoe, lighting etc playback data so synonymous have an important role.
VG
Jan
Antwort von fantasmo:
I had some time before synonymous times the Panasonic NV-GS230 purchased.
I am not a professional, but had the opportunity many times with slightly larger camcorders to film (as in the way SonyHDR FX-1 HD camcorder just as picturesque example). Since I became synonymous always said "yeah, 3-chip must be." So I thought, with the Panasonic the Knaller ergattert it.
But the recordings were actually quite noisy and pale like a klappriges 08/15-Spaßvideo.
Recently, I had about maybe a wide-angle adapter to buy and so little to upgrade the whole thing. But I think I should perhaps rather NEN right camcorder to buy.
Of course I do not now 3,000 euros, but what kind of camcorder (perhaps s.Besten under 1,000 euros) could you recommend me?
It must not be synonymous with the latest on his newest ... I would like to create short films and so ... So I expect that in all cases is broadcast TV (or at least does not need to hide)!
Perhaps you have tips synonymous for old models that I could try to use wet.
