Frage von tobi452:
Hi,
am 14 and will soon be time to get into videography.
Ahead: About bloody rookie mistakes, such as described here (http://www.slashcam.de/artikel/Einfuehrungen/Die-Top-6-Anfaenger-Fehler-beim-Videofilmen.html) I'm away. Have me on the technical Page synonymous already informed (that is just basics, to the creative, I'll be still) say that I have NEN whole heap of experience in the music (the sound) and photography, which is why words like Bildkopmosition, development of raw material (already digital ;)), exposure, etc., are not foreign for me.
As I said, I will start in the near future really sleep with the "film making".
A Beginners would now ask the question: Which Camera should I buy? want (via sochlche questions, I am already synonymous away: http://forum.slashcam.de/5-haufige-einsteiger-fragen-and-einige-antworten-vt29375.html) Since I save but just to a new electric guitar I have currently not the budget for the film with an EOS 7D and I photograph mainly synonymous.
has, since I buy the new iPod Touch and would like there is a photographer from the NEM iPhone really cool pictures rausgeholt I came up with the idea with the iPod Touch (which is 720p and delivers very well be synonymous DESIRED) Video in Low Light to make (photograph my Fuji bridge with which I now indeed synonymous Video do but in NER damn mießerablen quality and controls the focus of every 5 sec auto after though as the depth of field anyway so large that there is to regulate nothing more:)) until I'm money together for the 7D. I would take the sound through an external micro s.ner improvised fishing with spider and dam sync via flap.
Can this work with the iPod Touch as a temporary solution? The disadvantages are my size is partly known, thus:
is-not a game with the depth of field because no one does not synonymous and could readjust properly
Sound must be recorded separately
Lowlight-well for a ton (?)
-Not really a proper handling (I'll let me come to mind but what I can to hold on a tripod of war (or synonymous geg. times NEN Take in the hand)
-I have forgotten something important?
Would appreciate some estimates diminishes with! :)
Best regards,
Tobi
Antwort von domain:
The main problem with video recordings is the sound good and not the Picture. I recently lent my time very young people aged FX1, but it just made aware that may arise over the 3.5 mm jack and Micro-cable lengths over 1m especially in indoor problems. And just as it was then synonymous: all interviews with long cables were corrupted by various noises. This is the way synonymous for external field recorder without XLR, and here additionally the necessary synchronization of valve is anything but funny and often synonymous synonymous only works for a few minutes.
The best would probably, if you order a used XLR-SD-handle camera and look around with the geginnst practice. All without any or very short cable with XLR jack is running a single cramp.
Antwort von prime:
Forget it.
- Absolutely no control over any settings (sharpness / Aperture / Shutter)
- No optical zoom
- Lowlight of the ton
- Ext no. Audio
- Only 30p
- Resolutionvom actual sensor 960x720
- Extremely highly compressed material
- No stabilization
and and and and. ..
The idea is about as good as a bicycle as a temporary solution to a truck
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Purchase but ne 550D and some portable recording device
and forget the film with your iPod
Antwort von tobi452:
As I have already said the sound at some experience. I think now might not be the problem.
Henkel XLR camera?
Aperture and Shutter Focus: Do you just live without s.Anfang. There are so synonymous with the well known people Ner Kompaktknipse have fun;).
No optical zoom:
Sneaker zoom is the solution! Sure, not replaced NEN right Zommer of the proportions of her but I have just first no extra money spent on the video thing (and I will temporarily (!) Synonymous because not only ne electric guitar her needs. Have just thought mim iPod Weil only time will cost nothing extra and I do not have to wait another year until I start because times.).
Lowlight of the barrel:
Which is nothing to add. But only one can devote so Tegesaufnahmen times and if something is pure then illuminate with just a few for Construction, brighteners and thus not as gaudy, is diffusers.
Audio is I think the smallest problem
Ich finds halt else stupid because I still have to wait a year.
Shooting with the iPod'd call it ego, but perhaps not synonymous stop wetting the feet Bissel times what the video composition is concerned.
550D: I hate the handling of the 4 digit and third No Topdisplay, Dauemwahlrad, much too small Body ... It is supposed to be primarily ne camera.
Antwort von FrankFaster:
What are we talking here? I feel the video is with you only s.3ter place. E-Guitar, Ipod, .... that's synonymous Ok but what will you hear of us? That you do the thing with good videos can? I guess to have been so synonymous enough people voiced their opinion. It will hold you certainly NO ONE of them with your new "toy" but to shoot videos with "filmmaking" as you call it is so beautiful now the time to do anything. Finish off the end.
Gruss Frank
PS You meckerst over the handling of the 550 but want to start with NEM Ipod? That to me is too high! Sry.
Antwort von Replay:
Panasonic SD66 buy one. The ideal tool to begin with, at the filming. The thing can be used and automatically synonymous vollmanuell. And so expensive is the SD66 with good 370 ¬ not synonymous.
Forget iPod but this story and think about what is important to you. You can not have it all. At 14 I saved on moped's, s.eine guitar or even a camera (Stillimage / video) was not the question.
Regards
Replay
Antwort von tobi452:
I think you've got the wrong Bissel s.den head.
For me, provides support not only video but still synonymous Music and photography. And with the iPod: I'm from Saturn NEN voucher with which to buy the iPod, so there is no money lost for the electric guitar.
Really? Did I "filmmaking called"? :)
Was meant ned so of course I kalr that belongs there more, sometimes starting with NEM Followfocus.
But I mean if I synonymous 7D de hab. How do I start? Get up there with Cam Ner provides the absolute pro material but I know what I ned to do with it. And then I wanted to with the touch halt so prepare a Bissel "" I later not quite jump into cold water.
"You want to learn composition, or even practice - but you need to manual control, otherwise there's not much compost er ... You know what I mean ...
- I can not figure it has to do with the composition of the time.
So Henkel camera so such as the Canon XL2 or what?
Jep, DI boxes symetrie all if mans symmetrically rausnimmt and reduce noise, ground loops.
Selves have not written to the iPod with that degree because no Money of lacking in the electric guitar.
Consumer HD Camera Nope. A friend has recently bought one for 800 ¬. I am sure every video-capable DSLR with corresponding nerve Optics delivers cinematic.
No, I do not want to do with NEM iPod movies special to me only times Bissel make your feet wet.
'And there's the normal consumer camcorders (new equipment) s.einem investment volume of about 400 ¬.
- Jo, but not with Wechselinsen
Antwort von tobi452:
@ Replay
Oh well. maybe I have to wait so probably still something. Although I find that stupid but because I now coal feeders for the guitar I have no notion.
Would then probably save for the electric guitar on the 7D. Then I got the new camera which I have long wanted and still synonymous ne video feature inside is the Profitauglich technically.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Bzgl your comments of 3 or 4rer Canon Cams
- Battery grip is quasi mandatory
- Thumb wheel you need only limited
- The display of the 550D is top (although you really need only synonymous bzgl filming
halt just because an idea was just cheaper than the 7D, even if money left over for external recording device.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von tobi452:
With the battery grip haste right, but that only changes the size down, not left and right.
The wheel with the thumb is VERY important for photography. For example, in manual mode you can set the aperture on the little dial and the time on the big (or synonymous other way around). Or when you press the small button above it has two wheels on ne other important function. This can be important in photography that you can change VERY quickly.
On the 550D, I've already thought synonymous but handling it closes completely.
Perhaps a good compromise btwn 7D 60D and 550D of the even though I'm pretty disappointed.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
So I can tell you the man with the cam can work quite well.
I do not like big hands you have, but if I have the 550D before he put one of my one then maybe that's the width of 1.5 cm.
In 7ener perhaps only about 1 cm.
..........
But well no preference was stated as only NEN proposal.
quasi relative to the iPod - which I Perso mr. probably would never buy!
What ne guitar want to buy it?
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Replay:
Beginners Just as I do not recommend to film with a camera. Since each scene must be prepared. And AF is not synonymous during the filming really in it.
It did not supply the camera makes the picture, but man. If anyone knows with a 200 ¬ SD video camera his craft, he puts everyone in the bag, who thinks because he's got thick DSLR to be the master. Not the termination of the rabbit in the film-and photo shop. Let's talk images, not art. And does it synonymous with 'NEM entry-level camcorder, HD starts at ¬ s.350.
And in many situations, the 350-euro-thing delivers better pictures than a DSLR. Since even something with enough regular pattern. A tile roof is such a case. Many DSLR generate moiré effects and scaling artifacts. A DSLR is no guarantee of a technically perfect picture, as there are some things to consider. And a guarantee of good content, images, it is not synonymous (see next above).
Regards
Replay
Antwort von tobi452:
Guitar Probable: http://www.thomann.de/de/fender_classic_player_baja_tele_vb.htm
Do you allude but still. But probably ne Fender
This is synonymous with the 7D because of the feel.
So I pretty much prepare the settings and not just anyway draufzuhalten. So I would see no problem there but as my experience goes out the ned to be able to really judge.
> Very important: not the camera makes the picture, but man.
- I know the sentence of the photography! No worry, I will not forget, otherwise I would not shoot so synonymous with the idea NEM iPod "to want": D! (I think the true point of the matter recorded directly!: D)
Yes, haste but with beginners camcorder virtually no control over the depth of field because it is simply and simply not there. That is too large. I've known of my 38-380mm equivalent with Bridge. Depth of field because it has only Extremmakro with full 400mm telephoto, or the nearly what if you are not a 1000 grad ¬ Tripod (or even more expensive) has would probably just shake. Furthermore, I do not know any camcorder with 400mm.
Antwort von pilskopf:
Why, then your question makes sense obs with a Ipod to film when you know that there is no depth blur? Do I understand this? Apparently you know already but the answer. You want ne DSLR, so buy yourself one. no more needs to be said. Of course, in addition a tripod, a Micro, a Steadicam, ne little Dolly, 3 Lenses, polarizer, ND filter and a follow focus, of course, this editing software, 2-4 SD cards, one pocket, new computer for editing and that's it really . : D
Antwort von prime:
Yes if you've already zeroed in on the iPod I wonder what the discussion here?
Each 300-400 ¬ camcorder has a better Picture and handling than the iPod and is probably better suited to the * practice * - but is your money / voucher: o
Antwort von tobi452:
Will not just spend practice only 400 ¬.
Antwort von pilskopf:
But then synonymous the hobby not for you, for that is extremely expensive. I wonder where do all these Anprüche general, you want today Low Light, beautiful colors, DOF, it is not jerky, Full HD, 60 minutes s.Stück recording, good sound, schnittfreundliches material and all for under 300 ¬. Sun exaggerated once said.
Antwort von prime:
Then why the request? Get the iPod - that's it.
Antwort von Replay:
The latest camcorder go well beyond the 400 mm) And yes, you can handle with the depth of field.
Stiffen you but please not so in this current fashion with the low depth of field. I am exactly the opposite, I usually turn with the greatest possible depth of field. For the simple reason that the blurring caused by the viewers themselves. It's just part of the image sharp, to be looked at directly. The rest just can not, that you try.
I would like to let the viewer so the natural look and no one require hinzugucken where he has. I draw the attention of the viewer with the correct composition of what is important to me. But if an audience would just hold still and turner at this moment somewhere in the Picture, he can do that too. Is the composition good, but he will look right where I've imagined.
Let's just say, very boldly and without euphemism: Many people jet in the electric market, with a DSLR to come home and hide a lack of eye for the picture in that disappear 90% of the video in the blur to artificially the important part of the subject and noted with brute force, so to speak, dictate to the viewer, then, where they have hinzublicken;)
Therefore, once again my tip: A Panasonic SD66 is a good tool in learning how to shoot on. Or a SonyCX115 is already here for 350 euro, which has indeed no manual settings, but appears to offer some useful functions (point-focus point and focus in conjunction with point-measurement) for creative's Rotate.
Regards
Replay
Antwort von tobi452:
The fact that the photography in Comparison to the videography is one bargains (if you take into prof.'s Level), I've synonymous a few days ago written on Twitter.
OK. I'll tell then another. I will now focus only on the times that I s.wichtigsten (my Music and photography) and then times when I've left Kohl incorporate me into the subject of video.
Even if the thread has not been bad in my opinion a lot, thanks anyway! :)
Antwort von markusG:
So I would not so much stiffness in terms of feel. At some point you will be rich the naked camera that is no more and then come before adding different factors (suitable rig Leichtschärfe, Compendium, filters ...).
In my opinion, is currently s.besten the "compromise" MFT. The e-P2 has allegedly manual control options, but offers synonymous autofocus in video mode (not safe to despise without someone pulls the sharpness), etc., and the sharpness is manageable and at the same time - imho - certainly not aesthetically pleasing. Added Lenses then some old (really almost everything adaptable), perhaps even synonymous who in your circle of friends a few nice manual Lenses. This Selbstbaurig etc. (actually the entire rest, which is possible ...), perhaps NEN external Micro, etc. ..
If the initial thick enough. If you then have enough money together for "more" then yes you can do next step NEN.
said, such as fusion - not you on little things such as lack of second dial, which is really the last wodran it should fail.
