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Frage von Henry_Lee:


Hello!

Interested, I read some older posts relating to Time Lapse. Have not found but the following aspect: Please write to me but your reviews regarding the 2 systems: vs. 15frames/30sec-. 1frame/sec-ZEITRAFFER.

I want to buy me a camera with time-lapse function.
Surprising, I noticed that the good (old) Watched as SonyVX2000, or the Canon XL1S do have a "lapse function", but not the way I have thought it had said: You can adjust how many frames to be included such as 15, 25 (but not less - the talk of 1 sec, or 0.5 sec) ... and the interval eg 30, 60, ... sec

The new SonyHC90 example, but it makes one frame per unit time as per 1 seconds. This would need to be much better right?

Has anyone experience with both techniques? Why the Halbproficams that "system" and have this really for Time Lapse is used when one wants to gather up as a sunset?

I own the Canon XL1, since 2001. At that time I had no idea that will come out in the same year, the successor XL1S. That still offend me today, because the S has all the improvements that I miss quite often in the XL1; synonymous Useb the interval recording for Time Lapse.

In any case, I still want me to buy a cam that makes good time lapse recordings possible and can be synonymous with the film well in the dark.
After the Sony are completely unable to carry out a competent consultation by phone or mail, I have downloaded all Muehsam (!) Bedienugsanleitungen himself and looked through.
The result?
The HC90 is the only one with "1Frame-Time Lapse" and 5 lux Lichtsensitivitaet (which anyway is not so special).
The HC42 and the PC1000 can synonymous "1Frame Time Lapse" but have 7 Lux!
Attach s.dieser I must point out that I had seen only miniDV cams and ONLY THEY come for me in question.

What has me particularly was annoyed that they now can connect to standard external micro Sonykein more: The now have a "shoe" which can only be special additional microphones befaestigt and connected simultaneously. The jack is gone!

Are there other manufacturers can of synonymous miniDV cams, the "1Frame-Time Lapse", and to me synonymous with respect to gain or to satisfy Lichtsensitivitaet dignity (2 Lux)?
Or is the interval method with 15 frames in succession as well suited for Time Lapse, so I still buy the old SonyVX2100?

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Antwort von Axel:

When the time is too rapacious under 90 minutes, pick up to normal, and there in the editing program to see "Speed" a higher percentage. Taking to the recording process for days and weeks, you take s.besten a digital camera.
The slow-motion, ie the slow playback, is that what can not be neatly interpolated.

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Antwort von Henry_Lee:

"Axel" wrote: When the time is too rapacious under 90 minutes, pick up to normal, and there in the editing program to see "Speed" a higher percentage. Taking to the recording process for days and weeks, you take s.besten a digital camera.


But this is not the answer to my question. For it is clear that I want a cam with time-lapse function, certainly I do not want in the editing program that quicken the speed of play.

I'd like to know if anyone has experience with cams, which can make 1 full per unit time, and with those that at least 15 full frames per unit time as do Time Lapse ...

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Antwort von GhostDog:

Hi,
Here is what I have in http://www.bealecorner.com/trv900/tips.html
picked up (there is about the used-yet-available Sonytrv900). Seems not bad. Whether we can achieve so what you ultimately want, I can not for lack of legal expertise to assess:
Gruss
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1. Charge your batteries all the way up. I use a NP750 which gives me about 5
hours of time lapse recording.

2.Set white balance balance to your outdoor or indoor, not automatic.
Automatic outdoors will tend to fluctuate with shadows, and may make your
time-lapse look bad because of quick color changes.

3. I have it record 1 second of video every minute, and then when I capture it
into Premiere, I use Stop Motion capture during playback. I tell it to
grave 60 frames per minute, which basically means that it will now grave one
frame of every second played back.

In the end, 5 hours = 300 minutes is compressed to 300 frames, or 5 seconds.
Just perfect for a video snippet.

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Antwort von Axel:

Quote: But this is not the answer to my question. For it is clear that I want a cam with time-lapse function, certainly I do not want in the editing program that quicken the speed of play.

I'd like to know if anyone has experience with cams, which can make 1 full per unit time, and with those that at least 15 full frames per unit time as do Time Lapse ...


Hello Henry_Lee,
You wanted to show only a viable alternative. The Time Lapse for the VX2000 any event, that's for sure, is for the ton. No fluid movement. 1 B / s is the prerequisite for this. Must be of course a full screen. Possibly. can XL1 and XL2 das Remember though, that if you committed the lapse photography in an interlaced video, you need to re-render the recording anyway, since you otherwise, despite 25 B / s will get jerky motion in Comparison to the surrounding material. It would be nice if you could describe it, why the digital acceleration (quality of the "stop motion" - the method is preferable for you) is not an option.
Best regards,
Axel

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Antwort von Markus:

Quote: Here is what I have in http://www.bealecorner.com/trv900/tips.html
picked up (there is about the used-yet-available Sonytrv900).

I think the method described quite well (synonymous if the link no longer works), if one is keen to use a video camera for the recording of the lapse. The Interval Recording synonymous provide current camcorder.

Related topic:


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Antwort von Henry_Lee:

"Axel" wrote:
Hello Henry_Lee,
You wanted to show only a viable alternative. The Time Lapse for the VX2000 any event, that's for sure, is for the ton. No fluid movement. 1 B / s is the prerequisite for this. Must be of course a full screen. Possibly. can XL1 and XL2 das


Hello Axel!

Thanks for your answer. This brings me much next. Good to know that the VX2000 is not the good job. The XL1S makes of the method produces the same - that I know. Thus, both are thus of no use for it. Just funny that these are the Halbproficams And yet the result is so bad, but what solls.

"Axel" wrote:
But bear in mind that if you committed the lapse photography in an interlaced video, you need to re-render the recording anyway, since you otherwise, despite 25 B / s will get jerky motion in Comparison to the surrounding material.


I'm not sure if I understand correctly here:
I can not, therefore, in the same project (editing a movie and then to export), in which I reinbringe "normal" and gathered behind the scenes, without which the later jerky? So I would have to modify the normal and extra gathered extra scenes?
Why?

"Axel" wrote: It would be nice if you could describe it, why the digital acceleration (quality of the "stop motion" - the method is preferable for you) is not an option.

Well, I thought that it is precisely the reverse: that stop motion is qualitative. If we assume that I am full with 1 / sec HOST means the 25-fold acceleration. Ie if I choose the acceleration method, I have to enter 2500% in the editing program for speed. Because even have to create mad streaks in the Picture. Here, I'm just thinking ... Perhaps this can be prevented by converting the fields into a whole, I think, on the premiere, there is this function. If the picture but really high?
Why Acceleration is qualitative? Describe to me your experiences.

If I want to have about 2 minutes movie (which is approximately what I) need, I need to take 50 minutes. 50 minutes tape material is not yet irsinnig much, but still it is effort: Capture, I am doing in about 5 minutes blocks (no longer, as crash experience, etc.). That will be 10, where I always find it difficult the precise point at which frame it goes next, since the area modified release is slow, yet it can be a jerk (for example, if a bird flies übern sky). And it's quite a lot of material in the Project, if the whole film is about 60 minutes to 2 minutes, and embeds a ruched scene. They are then 60 + 50 minutes in the project (hopefully, because Premiere does not trouble ...).

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Antwort von Markus:

"Henry_Lee" wrote: Capture, I am doing in about 5 minutes blocks (no longer, as crash experience, etc.).
Have you got the Time-Lapse with capturing

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Antwort von GhostDog:

"Henry_Lee" wrote: Well, I thought that it is precisely the reverse: that stop motion is qualitative. If we assume that I am full with 1 / sec HOST means the 25-fold acceleration. Ie if I choose the acceleration method, I have to enter 2500% in the editing program for speed. Because even have to create mad streaks in the Picture. Here, I'm just thinking ... Perhaps this can be prevented by converting the fields into a whole, I think, on the premiere, there is this function. If the picture but really high?
Why Acceleration is qualitative? Describe to me your experiences.


Hello Henry Lee,
What prevents you take a test? Take five minutes long clouds and capture das Then hasten to 2500%. It is rendered. The result is: The clouds race across the sky. The same in stop motion, as synonymous always realized, we say that it would auto with a Digi-camera. The images you would import as footage. So you would have 300 jpegs, which are full images. This you can move into a project with normal PAL presets. There must first be rendered synonymous. The result is the same, however: The movements are not smooth. This is in stop motion, and always has to do with the line jump. The remedy is to "apply Pictureüberblendung. The Pictureüberblendung expects from the 25 full frames, which with a simple import into interlaced PAL in 50 fields were rendered with the recurring image information, a new file with the odd lines from the first and even lines from the following full-screen, etc. After that is all ok, but why so complicated when it's synonymous easy?
With the digital acceleration at 2500% (in the case of activated Pictureüberblendung not) every second, two fields Rausgepickt, but calculated a cross section of the entire image information. Consequently, the scudding clouds is interpolated for a motion blur in each frame was non-existent. Try using it, keep the pictures. The result is a completely natural motion in a single rendering process.
Purists might argue that the pictures are "wrong". For scientific purposes, they would not be good for. Also, strictly speaking, of course, the image resolution is worse than for the full frames (always the case with interlaced), but the whole joke of a motion is a fluid temporal resolution.

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