Frage von jeantier:
so I will therefore in terms of definition and philosophy
So here let off steam. Ok, then I make the time now.
I once recall a few passages from different categories
And let you stand without comment, then look forward to respective interpretations and perspectives relating to what today really means filmlook ...
The film is synonymous run on Festivals and look a bit like a "movie" ... JULES Comic situation at present: if you nen HDTV film has rotated, he is caught erstmal until further notice on the hard drive ...
What do you mean by that? JUEL / POWERMAC
When I read phrases like "The film is synonymous run on Festivals and look a little like" film "..." it shook me.
SPIELVERDERBER
Remains open to what is ultimately not mean film look. The One want your grain that (your existing space, others are more surreal timbre usually the directors of the drama in favor), while others want to lose the benefit of clarity s.der iota of originality of their images () usually the cameramen. ...
If filmlook not breadth, depth, detail, materials, skills and commitment of all together.?
Or is film moving pictures in endless scenarios of digital alienation. ... jean ANIMAL
Moin,
toll! And what is the FX1 are sharp, if between each half-image and 20cm longer lie? And even if, as would look like then?
I hear them screaming, where is the film look, yes, everything is sharp. Ulrich
"Buena Vista Social Club" is determined by the best film of Wenders (sorry, "Paris, Texas" fans) and a proof of Ephraim's thesis. AXEL
If you look after the films on video (DVD), you are normal stop videos. To compare the quality with movies that you have to look at it even in movies as 35-mm-FAZ. beiti
Probably one of the most important books, at least for me, is
Movies sense strategy of emotional film design Ephraim
That is to say the least, idiocy (pardon) the crude expression, because the choice of technology increasingly depends on the intention of starting to be realized with it. beiti
Yes s.Arsch lick me! That would get so many answers I had not thought of that! majuz But a good story is synonymous with a thumb-cinema. jean ANIMAL This forum polarized, where one thinks too much knowledge emerges as an ignoramus, where it was thought to know nothing, they know more than one entrusts himself.
But what motivates synonymous always to encourage the questioner, it is an issue of it.
nochma jean ANIMAL for a problem here you're providing a solution? But not for the problem of the questioner?
Jörg
Antwort von jeantier:
PS. Of course it is not correct, the quotes to tear out your Zusamenhängen and then nest synonymous too, but I found it so interesting by association. And a bit of laziness to find out more, you should already be there.
For me, the rest of the film look can tell his story as to how she feels.
Antwort von Jules Winnfield:
With my quote, top right side "HD captured on hard drive" I meant that you can not play with it a justifiable expense, since the HD-DVD for example, is missing. If either HDV, so rather moderate and still not widespread. Or a sinfully expensive tape format.
And with savings of imaging has "not doing much synonymous to ...
Antwort von jeantier:
Is synonymous but an argument for the film look - quality - or not?
Antwort von Ivy:
Hi!
So since you have made you so much trouble, but ultimately it still remains the question of what some of the above quotations have with the notion of doing "film looks" to ... ;-)
Despite this, I find the topic very interesting and I do not gotta be something to express my contribution to this end. As the one or other of you may know, I come from theater to film, the question of good looks is therefore not a technical for me (which I'm much too little idea), but atmospheric. Below I will enumerate some aspects that are important to me look at my films, and synonymous to explain why. It remains to note that it is my personal opinion, by which I want to make clear my conception of the term "film look".
1st) I hate
frippery. Flashing writings moved, titles, animated objects, scene color screens - it is my deeply zuwieder, but it distracts from the actual film. This must, in my opinion, simply to be so often Spartan, to draw focus on filmimmanente components such as actors, Atmosohäre, relationships and action.
2.) Please without
symbolism. Symbolism is the second component, which to me is always too much. When trying to shoot (Sat.1 world premieres for example), over a symbol to demonstrate to viewers a substantive explanation, then the film has failed me. This intellectual detour with me always gives the impression that the film crew are able to clarify this by clarifying the actor and action, or I think it took me for bescheurt. Example to demonstrate: To change the affinity of two people, they drive the same car regardless. This fact has no significance for the film, is shown only to illustrate the above-mentioned to spectators. As it rises up the throat, choking me. Either I get it, the soul mate then (I need) the cars or not, I do not understand (they will help the cars synonymous little, then one would s.Storyboard work).
Consider 3.) A
Subversive camera work, I absolutely essential, does that mean that camera angles, rides, a road-only positions unconsciously into the depths of the brain pave a spectator and not as spectacular, as are explosive, as well as, so the cameraman can be rocking the eggs. The camera
is for me the film, not the film of the camera. The reason is as in 1 that the concentration will not be distracted from the actual conditions cinematic film. Exceptions to these rules are films where the camera itself is treated as an instrument ( "Man bites dog", "Truman Show" and others).
4th) I love
dirty movies. No, not that what you think. I mean, I like it when a movie jerky, time is blurred, sometimes zunah s.Schauspieler, sometimes too far off of him somersault, sometimes sound, sometimes listening very carefully to be. The emphasis here is synonymous at
times. Again, it would be annoying and synonymous with such a sparing use of understanding must never be compromised. One moves to a fine line, the viewer vozugaukeln on one Page not illusory perfect a la Hollywood blockbusters, on the other Page synonymous but not risking that this is not asking all the time, for an amateur nonsense because he / she looks for the latter as the former only to draw back from.
5.) For me, a film must be
associative and full of holes. Does that mean that I do not like it, a view of A to Z durchkonstruierte history, in which each plot is told to its end, illustrated with beautiful pictures, too. I want to see holes and an associative sequence of scenes. The cut may be in my opinion, not very logically and clearly, he has to leave at a moment pauses for reflection, without dropping the viewer into a hole (therefore rather than black and white screens), and the next moment he has a scene s again abruptly . can be connected to the next. Only in this way to sell the audience
Antwort von colding999:
"Shooting is guided creation. Only that the creator may not remember anything about directing."
I must remember the unbeding me
Antwort von steveb:
erstmal now I need half an hour, "Nietsche beiss ".... otherwise I still on my cigar ... and if I am still the ashes into the 51er Chateau du pape's like .... I'll bring the leader of my group um ...
Antwort von jeantier:
Thanks Ivy, that's been an intense time impression.
Frippery is often a means of response have no talent to the inability to divert attention -.
Symbolism. I think, is the moment of s.problematisch when he auffält. But it is one of the most important elements of style to the silent criticism s.Umständen / facts / ideologies. Hingucken Actually, he may be synonymous relentlessly beautiful and dispel one ever before a movie that you do not understand, but. Just listen to it at parties pseudo-intellectual interpretations, listen for hours untalented critics without passion or doctoral students to have, I find corrosive. When he leaves at all but a subjective wrikungsvolles question mark - is already more my thing.
I love C'est ne pas un pipe "
3. I agree, as long as it is themenförderlich
5. You can give a few examples at 5
6. I agree, but feel this is as sad as it involves a very restricted view. - Without doubt a key selling point is to establish such series.
@ steveb You have again forgotten the smiley :-), but this is for you
... The violence of moral prejudice is deep into the spiritual, penetrated into the seemingly coldest and presuppositions world - and how it goes of itself, harmful, obstructive, belendend, twisting ... "
(Nietzsche)
And if a cigar, a cigar is a cigar (and of smokers for the same when we think) a painful years of cancer and ultimately death in Purchase close up, then either the integrity or sheer stupidity ... (no, not Marx Brothers)
Incidentally interessting Music steveb.
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
Hey, Ivy! Class Posting!
And the symbolism, you think (with this car example) ... I am with you completely disagree. It's silly, amateurish, and belongs in category "nonsense". This kind of symbolism is used for production of lighter fare, and this can distort the understanding of the audience for visual language. The fatal thing is that one can easily succumb to commercials, advertising films for the MASTER (usually) the visual language.
But komen Symbolism (to return to take) is indeed synonymous properly used, has, as Jean animal. Imagine Tarkovsky times without symbolism. How would 'sacrifice' or 'stalker look like? Or the films of Kubrick, Pasolini, Bergman or Fellini (etc.)?
Back to the topic of film look. Hmm. There was not already said everything right and wrong? I only know that many run after this term. I've synonymous the impression that many get bogged down here. They would probably think, therefore, contribute their own productions so bad because it does not look cinematic.
(I try to now very much NOT to generalize! So please do not just slap.) Because it is not unconditional, and, most of which hinbekommen synonymous to 65mm on 16/35 and not really better results. It is rare s.der Camera. A professional (!) Cameraman would you with a ¬ 350 MiniDV can conjure up fantastic images.
On the other hand, the effect of the image IS different. However, synonymous depending on what the material is shown. A video projection in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung looks quite different, like on a screen. Film acts differently on screen than in the projection. Interlace does cheap for many. On the other hand, one should carry on the occasion of famous actors views on the interlace to be labored. It will be seen that some pretty bad actors.
Interlaced video is in the temporal Resolutiondurch its higher frame rate, as it were 'honest'. You see more facial movements and facial expressions (in SD but not as sharp) exposed, and bad acting faster. Film 'smeared' as it were, the movements. Good actors synonymous
i work on the leaning.
You can write to Books ... I'm working for a seminar on "Film and Video Art" s.einer DVD that will show the differences between video and film in the form of a 'documentary'. An instructional video so to speak. If I ever (completion), I will make available for download, if there is someone interested.
Antwort von jeantier:
Hey also class posting, thank creeping michel
Back to the topic of film look. Hmm. There was not already said everything right and wrong?
Exactly draum me goes here. Unfortunately for the normalization and after the talk shop very often an inability to matter much. Goleman has so beautifully expressed in IQ. "Man is an extremely intelligent and still be an emotional cripple"
A professional (!) Cameraman would you with a ¬ 350 MiniDV can conjure up fantastic images. Profession / occupation is indeed known of Appeals, without talent just uses every theory .... nothing And it shows so nice because, as with symbolism separates the wheat from the chaff. Everything else is like prostitution, which is professionally called. Often it is only able to assess desire for more is not the consequence of his own limitations. (Schwafel Schwafel)
Without being classical, but sometimes it still makes a sort of agreement on essential characteristics of a communication easier what you want or what is at stake.
Otherwise I can not wait to see your DVD.
I myself even harder around with me if I write a book about the approach and mindset of the digital-production on the international market .*
But I digress.
love to love you a refreshing posting, which I spoke from the soul.
* Do not worry, I then type in rechtschreibgebundener :-)
Antwort von PowerMac:
A professional (!) Cameraman would you with a ¬ 350 MiniDV can conjure up fantastic images. Who is to say something? That is nonsense.
Film look is fairly easy to explain.
1. Increased expenditure, a very fine and highly differentiated lighting with many lamps of all kinds
2. A certain sequence of movements of the footage, we have been habituated s.den. This is the 24fps of the film with (mostly) 1 / 50 shutter shutter and the double projection in the movies. A certain degree of motion blur is in here with. Partially contribute movements jerky, but we are used to it and feel it to be "right" for movies. Whether that is now Konitionierung or Habiutation ...
3. The increased dynamic range / contrast range of film material. It does not know everything as soon blown out, but still have bright parts drawing. In black you can still capture details. The Dynamics has stretched over IR. Fine nuances. In the English called synonymous latitude. Good film has 11, 12, 13 stops dynamic range.
4. Graduated Filter. The use of graduated filter can help, such as sky or surpassing window partitiell abzudunklen (ND). So the sky does not look blown out. Is rarely used in IR.
5. Grain. An easy Grieseln we are accustomed. It is simply a must. Partial grainy. Characteristic of film.
6. Depth of Field. 35mm and 16mm have a small depth of focus. It is not all of beginning to end sharp. So you can highlight as a design means only certain things. Some stylistic devices are possible, such as vertigo or sharpness shift jw The blurry areas works in film (supported by the chemical properties of the film) and some nice "flat" or mosaic. That is what we are used synonymous. Through the blurred background of the "sharp" focus has always sharp, synonymous when it is not so true. But it focuses only on it.
7. Gamma curve. In short, photons (many = bright; few = dark) of different wavelengths (different colors =) fly through the optics placed in position on the film material. Film consists of several light-(and color-) sensitive layers. A "black photons" goes a layer deeper than a green one. Just some footage for example, is more sensitive to green than to red. The material then has a stab to green. Like colors and brightnesses are finally mapped, shows the gamma curve. Which is unfortunately not linear. For example, dark green and shades have a very fine gradations or more represented than it affects men. The material is then very selectively sensitive to certain color or brightness ranges. Ergo: contribute colors beautiful, pleasant, natural or artificial entirely synonymous. It usually looks better than in reality for the eyes. They are actually chemical deficiencies in the material, which make up but a certain look. Video, like DV is sterile and shows the world as often as it is. Hard, cold and realistic. The colors are "disgusting" and genuine. But, paradoxically, seems unnatural to us. We do not want to see the reality, but we long for the film an "artificial reality".
8. Colors. Footage is often sampled with 12 bits per color channel (RGB). Ergo: Colors are not rediziert on the 8-bit color space. Colors are sophisticated and subtle. Transitions between colors are softer, and we just see more accurate and different colors. Technically closer s.der reality with many colors.
9. No Compression. Video is usually recorded only in 4:2:2. This not only saves bandwidth. The eye does not see the difference really. Film is uncompressed and can be worked if just hold much more information than digital video. The picture is more natural and accurate appraisal of compression artifacts.
10. Aspect ratio. Aspect ratio of the image. Film is often 16:9 or 1:2,39 ( 'Scope). (But: 1:2.35 no longer exists.) We had our wide s.The Resolutiongewöhnt. 16:9 is closer to the natural field of vision of the eye. We associate with large pictures immediately (epic) theatrical film. We are simply used to it.
Antwort von jeantier:
Thanks Powermac, I had not expected anything else of your Page and think if it is ordered, it will be here
for a standard for what is known as producing standardized Of Shooting is a definition and describe the basis of thought - including the interplay of all.
Enormous of labor. Even more participate, the better. From the double for the fourth camera assistants through to the film laboratory technician. Teamwork, responsibility, business, public, Thinking Big ... hurry hurry :-) ... everything in it ...
But how do you stand personally on film look. What favorisierst you. What can you enjoy and in which film, just sit back, forget to relax, dream and maybe even find the ideal?
PS. In everything I've read of you to see something like würd'ich of Gov. Especially if you often working for the BBC - I could quickly fan.
PPS. Raises again the question of whether very legitimate, annotated standards as Powermac or profession as creeping michel
are the same. If it is a normalization of storytelling? Oh Captain My Captain - I do not know. Or the ever next ausgreizten eyesight of the spectators. If this is the case, why failed King Kong, which now produces WETA really Champions League and why Youtube is booming? Only Profiling Against Establishing or platform?
If the price of machinery, marketing and marketing standards and synonymous just heard about this film look, which I now distort times than quality, is not already too high, simply because the public became more and more re-educated?
What makes a documentary? What captures s.einem film, why the same stories always capture the millions in front of the television series. Ok Ok, I digress here, but look is just so wonderfully ambiguous.
Camera people are not just craftsmen and directors can be quite visual idiot. Cutter's able to save, or mess and no sound, how do the images without the sound. And at a debate about "look ..."
... but assemble the material. Some settings can not only s.sich view one of the "style". They must be considered against the interlude with another cut settings. Dr look of a setting does not count. The look is one of many causally related to each other standing attitudes of an entire film. Film is by the cut ... Cut may be helpless without a history or structure. So the egg itself, the places?
Is it s.Budget? Is it kind s.der sell or Project gschickter able to? Is successful just the right time s.rechten place.
How was that even with the dt Camera Award for the youth, I think last year. He has never had a camera in his hand before - I have (his pictures and I do not mean the virtual) bound, although I have asked all the time what he wants to tell me, but I was spellbound. Sure would the "professionals" and a number of criticisms have perhaps heard of Geschichtenerdenker s.The typewriter, the director at the director's chair and Luc Besson would make not only at Zunftdenken films - or at least ....
Is it only the commitment of a Besson, the "professional" to acquire know-how (which is important, in fact) and is Profssion and know how to call together?
Only for the success (in the form of confirmation from the budget, applause) a creative right. As there would be no maverick, a progress. If there were a Tarentino? If the history of Warchowskis been understood as a matrix in general, as would have a limited budget - enough to reach. Why, despite modest history BWP was a success? Is not the whole of psycho lowest levels were produced? `
Not synonymous, many hiding behind the dogma of what is standard? With the coming years because they no longer so ready for something new, or perhaps there never were? **
"That what people need more than food, are stories"
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Antwort von jeantier:
Oh opinions, opinions, polarization, arguments, ideas ...
Thank lagsam ne wird'doch discussion around the topic draus ....
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
Schleich Michel has written the following:
A professional (!) Cameraman would you with a ¬ 350 MiniDV can conjure up fantastic images.
Who is to say something? That is nonsense. A camera is so creative, like a lump of sound. So I korrigiere:
A professional cameraman who has mastered the rules of visual language, from a camcorder can be of 350 ¬ with all probability provide interesting images, as one who has not been as much experience with these aspects. In this formulation, in any case, I take
you back.
Now to your definition of Film Look:
Film look is fairly easy to explain. Yes, I see ... :)
1. Increased expenditure, a very fine and highly differentiated lighting with many lamps of all kinds That is a question of production, not the medium. Also on video really needs to be illuminated and fine with many lamps. Just ask Anthony Dot Mantle. The video to another, flatter illumination requires (depending on where with) the video opens up in Item 3
4. Graduated Filter (...) is rarely used in IR. Anyone remembers anything? Can it stand for? I think not.
10. Aspect ratio I think that film look is defined not even by the pro rata ratio. Would therefore yes 'Eyes Wide Shut' (actually all, except two, Kubrick) less cinematically, than in 2001.
15. Camera work. If this work is not done on computer in question and no one has artistic skills, one must not wonder about worse results, or a 'flashy Camera'.
18. Mise en scene. Directing. I immediately burst bubble and collar ...
Antwort von jeantier:
;-) YES YES YES MORE MORE MORE ... OPINIONS AND FINALLY
INTENSIVE READING.
Antwort von jeantier:
I would like to stress once again ...
A camera is so creative, like a lump of sound. ... If this work is not done on computer in question and has no artistic skills to ... ... Do not hide behind many synonymous with the dogma that is standard?
Luc Besson would make ... and not only at Zunftdenken films - or at least ....
We are accustomed to but, it supports the experience of "Movies." Even at home in front of the TV, we take the unconscious distortion than was ideal.
.... that the camera angles, ship tours, positions only one way unconsciously into the depths of the brain pave a spectator and not as spectacular, as are explosive, as well as to the cameraman, the eggs can swing .... @ steveb You have again forgotten the smiley :-), but this is for you
... The violence of moral prejudice is deep into the spiritual, penetrated into the seemingly coldest and presuppositions world - and how it goes of itself, harmful, obstructive, belendend, twisting ... "
(Nietzsche)
Antwort von Reimer Reimer:
I think that film look is not defined solely by the visual.
Most importantly for a movie erstmal the act of narrative flow, the acting achievement.
For unto you is before me, amateure now have the opportunity, the perfect film look you (as you described it synonymous, and as we all know) to get, but otherwise the film typical amateur (is clichéd):
poor settings
no influence
bad actor
no good locations
And, and, And. ..
And then this film might not enter the movies.
What would be the das ..?
For the look of a film is not only important to the film look, or maybe back next.
The most important thing is for amateurs erstmal to dominate the really important things, namely: To good camera work, acting, editing, etc.
But with that you can draw a very fine film, though synonymous (I gebs interfere with) the depth of a little, but it's not doomsday, because even you can not do different things with miniDV.
By increasing the magnification of the aperture depth of field, then you can also move with a focus ring sharpness.
In a recent project we did that, and it looks very good, very blurred, and that without Zoom!
It is important in the postpro one Farbkorektur. This is much more important than depth of field.
What I'm saying: Film look is not the big thing, to which it is always done.
Antwort von jabone:
Forgot my login
Antwort von jeantier:
lol, then mach ma jabon
Antwort von jeantier:
you introduced me, amateure now have the opportunity, the perfect film look you (as you described it synonymous, and as we all know) to get, but otherwise the film typical amateur (is clichéd) There are two extreme examples of tragic
just not amateur actors but of high-profile actors led fans
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And
Bloodrayne (who is so schecht that would not even suffice moldy raspberries, but the sausage or art) is
Öhm, which I did not understand now, runs counter to the no
For the look of a film is not only important to the film look, or maybe back next.
The most important thing is for amateurs erstmal to dominate the really important things, namely: To good camera work, acting, editing, etc. with
Most importantly for a movie erstmal the act of narrative flow, the acting achievement. I think the roar precisely why many Amatauere for a film look, and amateurs can I find a really hooking name, rather untalented, in some cases synonymous wannabes
Nevertheless Dankl love
Jabones
Antwort von jabone:
Since I've probably misunderstood my words a bit.
I just thought the film look (depth of field, format, color correction) is important, but for a good movie s.erster Steller acting, directing, camera work and editing are available.
Clear now ;-)?
Antwort von jeantier:
clear :-)
Antwort von tfp:
So, to this dance once in the series, I disagree all the time speakers ...
I am of the opinion that "film look" can not be described because of the look individuuel part of the film (or at least should be) and hence these supplements.
Of course, the style of the Hollywood someday stillisiert standard has to be (see the old silent films, was wanted in some cases even where such a high depth of field, or old Samurei-and Kunfufilme who had almost hard dv-like images) on almost all movies transmitted throughout the world because we are creatures of habit and we perceive as normal, so we though we were yet again at aufzählungspunkt PowerMacs. But still, I think, "film look" is the look that has a film that may be bad, which can be good, which can always be synonymous, but each film has a film look (somehow) as the human character.
Is not the whole of psycho lowest levels were produced? `
Yes, only with a TV crew and with very cheap sets, but the cast was named director of the prison and was at least Alfred Hitchcook, therefore, will be the advertising expenditure was probably still Huge. And besides, the movie was great
If there were one Tarentino I think he was probably conceived and born without large advertising budgets and without much budget and ...
but without the huge advertising budgets and the a present a Tarrentino Quentin, and even scientific work on Pulp Fiction, distributes s.das Oscarkometee were, I doubt that it would become such a cult film, and he had made such a career.
Antwort von jeantier:
Here, too, love you.
Psychoanalysis and precisely for this reason Tarentino were deliberately chosen, and as far as I know, at this stage was the only well-known Hitchcock s.diesem Project.
The discussion about the film look (which is a very ambiguous term is chosen), is less about the unique visual presence / conciseness of a film, but what could be considered s.sich for movies.
I'm looking forward to more.
Antwort von tfp:
As far as I know, at this stage was the only well-known Hitchcock s.diesem Project. Janet Leigh, as far as I was still s.The reading of "How did you do that, Mr. Hitschcook erninnere" a star and dies in the first third of the expectations of Puplikum quarrel, but is now synonymous already a bit ago that I 've read the book ...
The discussion about the film look (which is a very ambiguous term is chosen), is less about the unique visual presence / conciseness of a film, but what could be considered s.sich for movies. So you want a kind of standard for film developed or up? (No sarcasm, I want to be my question seriously)
Antwort von jeantier:
No, I am small and standard ultra chaot,
an understanding of fundamental, rather triffts.
Ist halt as Club Dead Poets Society or
Sud, classical, romantic .... Where's running out of what one thinks so, what you like, what have I missed in my considerations, which learned what to think to put - I think s.ehesten is the point,
what has inspired me to think Love you very much for Janet Leigh, who is in fact so quickly,
that you ignore them :-) But "he did they do it is ..." of Truffaut, as much as I can remember - just class class Book and regie.
Antwort von tfp:
No, I am small and standard ultra chaot,
Why not? Then chaos would have at least once method ...
Where's running out, what you think so, what you like, what have I missed in my considerations of what learned, reflect on what brought That sounds really after Dead Poets Society, very phlosophisch, once I've tried to make it a poem, but especially the conclusion is not so successful ...
What do people so when it runs out?
Where is the sense?
What else do you like that?
What makes the film-maker Glad?
I've missed in my thinking?
To what do I transition now?
What have I learned?
Was it something about Bernd?
How many made to think?
Was it not more than eight?
Antwort von jeantier:
GRÖHL ....
Thank tfp
But since philosophy is not even accepted as a heading here, I must make it just about making films.
Really a shame is not a help / forum looking for answers structured?
Is it not also in philosophy?
Your poem incidentally, sounds more like a rap song from Finland ... alleluia ;-)
Antwort von Acer:
Lordi?
Antwort von steveb:
somehow that sounds like a diminutive of "noble "....
Antwort von jeantier:
Acer ;-) but man lordi claims of
to be yourself metal .... :-) ;-) ;-)
HEY COOL AND ALREADY THE SECOND PAGE IN THIS THREAD
Antwort von Axel:
"Brevity is the soul of wit." Prima thread that `s little tiring.
To summarize:
God is a slashcam. In the beginning was the darkness. BE Will brought the light into the darkness. Then was made of light and darkness of the FILM LOOK. And He saw that it was good.
Love is the key! "And if you with ProfiCAM filmtet and with terahertz schnittet, and yet the love of the medium hättet not, then everything would be nothing ..."
It has been said () in this thread that we s.The characteristics of film projection are used to. We hedgehog us a filmic cynical phrases in order to escape the dreary reality.
Sloppiness!
Video has a distinct look. If we do not like squinting at Hollywood Video and we will not love our movies. We will be unkind hour after hour tape grind through the camera - it costs nothing. We will invest not
care. Videolook has nothing to do with the art. We think: loveless, sloppiness, lack of care.
"Either you care - or you do not." * (* repeat on Nicole Kidman question his habit, settings 50 or 100 times, until all true, additional material "Eyes Wide Shut.")
Either you're full of the matter and give everything, no preference whether you with DV or the IMAX, or you can improve it out.
What you do not worry, you can not worry synonymous. If thine eye offend thee, pluck it out! (Is not of Tarantino.)
If we continue to get Jean ANIMAL and the other wits but soon her own section. Or her own forum.
Antwort von jeantier:
So so "in the near future thus lies the soul of wit" and the old / young Hamlet has to serve once again ...
"Therefore, since
brevity is the soul of wit, And tediousness the limbs and outward flourishes, I will be brief ... "
But genrell's still fits. Was not it Shakespeare who said that it's not to like but what goes in one piece.
Thanks to the loving wohlgemundeten form of speech and synonymous here, I am pleased with the Comment.
If we continue to get Jean ANIMAL and the other wits but soon her own section. Or her own forum. There you have it, I still am of the opinion that the philosophy here could well be of interest and useful for thmenverfehlend Filmmakers ... qed
Aha?? "So that was the whole gist!
Goethe even though I do not particularly like.
In my pro is yes, everything worth knowing, and your profession, I find amazing, melts in your mouth and verbally reminded me
Hours of iron ore ....
Ah yes, more subtle way, I can not stand Imax and Showscan and
If thine eye offend thee, pluck it out! could from the movie "The Man with the X-ray eyes, his" .-)
Smugly read and enjoyed
Antwort von jeantier:
Video has a distinct look. If we do not like squinting at Hollywood Video and we will not love our movies. We will be unkind hour after hour tape grind through the camera - it costs nothing. We will invest not care. Videolook has nothing to do with the art. We think: loveless, sloppiness, lack of care. I'm afraid ... We are not, we are ...
But it would be if all synonymous with a heavy heart and an optimal lovely even conclude that the true focus of what goes s.ehesten with filmlook konfrom.
"Art is always synonymous and responsibilities that must be generally understood and worked out before." Password (of whom)
Faithfully
PS. Verazuberndes wit is such a word ... I wish sometimes I könnt'es see in the mirror, instead of just shaving cream and bloodshot eyes ...
Antwort von PowerMac:
I have given myself a little effort and a few pages to write. Possibly as a small publication 2006th
http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uobnk/Filmlook.pdf
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
You have forgotten that DV productions usually have a bad sound. Finally, yes take back most of a lack of experience on the micro-camera.
How could this happen to you? :)
About the part with the colors and "realism" but then I can no longer laugh. I would sleep over again. Read before the time schlafengehen Jean Baudrillard or so.
On the subject of projection, and is accepted in more movies than in front of the television.
I once saw one documentary about the impact of television. There, an attempt was made:
Several volunteers have been invited to a Lehrfilmvorstellung. In the middle of the room hung a canvas. One half of the subjects were "placed before" the canvas, the other half "behind" the canvas. So the one hand, a rear projection seen (quasi-TV), the other an ordinary projection.
Subsequently, questionnaires were distributed to the content, and it turned out the following ...
Those who have the projection of 'normal times', are handled much more critical with the content than those who saw the rear projection. They were in fact less the contents examined.
The mosquito and the light bulb ... What do you think, why so many Las Vegas used light bulbs. A reflection probably seems better for distant reflections as look directly into the light.
@ Jean animal ... look, which can amount as a thread.
http://www.regie.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4820
Antwort von axn:
If there had been historically seen in the video silver film, they would some day try to imitate the good old video look. Always has been, the newer media tries to imitate the older.
Proof: even today there are several Brush Strokes in Photoshop to convert the horrible FotoLook painting.
Antwort von Axel:
I once saw one documentary about the impact of television. There, an attempt was made: (...)
So the one hand, a rear projection seen (quasi-TV), the other an ordinary projection. (...)
Those who have the projection of 'normal times', are handled much more critical with the content than those who saw the rear projection. They were in fact less the contents examined. Salut,
a poorly chosen example. Backprojection technically has no similarity with TV. The difference is explained by the strong reception and distribution to the lower contrast range in the back projection, that is a simple image degradation.
A reflection probably seems better for distant reflections as look directly into the light. Complete fallacy! "Critical" is not equal to "distance". A distanced perception would not do justice for the movies filmed movie. People are not experimental monkeys, which can not survive in quick succession and reflect. A movie is made in contrast to a Lindenstraße sequence to be experienced in the first place. Will it by inappropriate Vorführbedingungen to a lesser extent, the criticism may be synonymous less differentiated. Due to the Frontpro / rear-projection TV Comparison: The stronger due to the higher dynamic range light-dark rhythm in the conventional Frontpro draws the audience into it more into the action.
Another example: The same film will be digitally brought under the same conditions, a comparison of public space (without the flicker of fiduciary aperture). Watch The outcome - always synonymous with me in the movies: the digital (technically superior) projection leads to a poorer assessment of the film (not "critical" simply not impressed, to say the film was less perceived as paradoxical as it sounds.)
Movies (= Film look) is a carnival-amusement, which must be clear. The whole principle is based on an optical illusion, a cheap sleight of hand like the flip book.
The greatest advantage of cinema over a 50-inch HD plasma (with the considerable improvement in picture quality) is a technical
deficiency. Other benefits have thought otherwise schreibfauler Powermac (in his work well known as the final point under this thread):
s.Großes Picture. At a normal 4:3 TV, we look from a distance. We have quite an eye out the tube and
rigid. Stare wearied our eyes purely physiological. Our attention is diminishing. We do not feel the action, but we will be synonymous to the audio information to an uncritical. That is why TV is synonymous an opinion machine.
Ignorance is strength. In contrast, the movies of) will be able to reproduce the contents of the back row of a movie worse than the people in the audience (another attempt. In Rasiersitz we must constantly turn your head because you will never have the entire screen in view. In addition, the more difficult by seeing the distortion: Below are three feet tall the mouth, ten meters above the right the next little ears. This effort is rewarded by a higher attention.
b) volume. Almost more important than the size of the picture is the presence of the tone. Loud is good, of all sides is better. Again, the Comparison of the normal situation with its television room volume. Many people leave the television quietly in the background (sleep timer), to sleep better. Here again is: The
contents of the perceived subconsciously do not have to mumble through the passport control.
Antwort von Axel:
If there had been historically seen in the video silver film, they would some day try to imitate the good old video look. There's been yet. Leih dir mal
Natural Born Killers.
Antwort von jeantier:
WOW WOW WOW
First of Good Morning,
And
LOVE YOU @ POWERMAC there certainly puts a lot of work behind.
I les'es me in peace with - and am curious.
And creeping michel
Viva Las Vegas. Constructive criticism is always beneficial. I read my
the link times through tonight, has indeed today
synonymous work again :-)
If you both not as a "roughneck" sound with each other
Had you, if it were less surprising. Sometimes I
the feeling that you both always have a key stimulus
throws at you both.
With both a lot of knowledge and experience is between
read the lines.
And, like two sides of a coin, surrender
you both a great value.
You make me very very hard my
Enfant terrible - Image ", my Chaotikerdasein
uphold. I könnt'jetzt sublime and
correct to say: thank you for your opinions --
is even a discussion.
But if what a light, ironic provocation
was begun of me, and now takes on trains, so that
really important stuff will arise from the
a substance for a guide in meditation on film and
new media, then I find it incredibly difficult so sublime
to be.
tfp wrote yesterday in his conclusion:
So you want a kind of standard for film developed or up? (No sarcasm, I want to be my question seriously) No. I did not, I could not synonymous, since so many important
Observations indicate that it is very labor intensive and above all a golden objective midline to find the artlessness of much too easily accepted, of patrons too much acclaimed and very envious of attack could be seen as synonymous of experienced with torn safety. In this case, jean ANIMAL is a sloth - and before I trash
only publish my order to publish, please let me steer clear of it. This is public, it's fast and it is of 'vielen'korrigierbar.
Open source of ideas and experiences, so to speak.
I had underestimated it well, it is more than a very, very distant ideal,
seen one wish - to create a guide. But here, if we continue - will create one!
I do not know how things go, but right now I feel
the Milchbart behavior in many productions as "Pain in the Ass"!
A behind the barricade your technique, the other behind
Theater arts, and others go to me, with all due respect, just
only on the bag, because they want to learn more synonymous iota '. Just do not allow different perspective more.
As an operator sitting in the House of Promotion and cut TV reviews and considers the vector scope next to him is for "ne Funzel to relax", as a production day swallow up some money, just because the cameraman was not able to admit that he Experience had no blue screen - and this time there's no other. As a production manager is sitting next to me and is not convincing partout of it, are the particular matrix-like effects Fuffziger not make for 2Euro to and much more.
But it is synonymous and the other page. Since a Duncan sitting in a meeting in which I was suddenly intended to be an art director, has 20 years experience on stage and puts his all 'skills and for the Project, instead Revierzupinkeln, a Chris Laska shows me how wonderful is the light and what is so can make - and I think idealism can be the professional cooperative synonymous with dedication humor.
I have reached out because I am frustrated that there is so much potential, especially in Germany and that one falls into trench warfare, like a sand castle battle s.der North of Neckermann degenerates tourists. Kritsch if there are unpleasant or sometimes synonymous Roughnecks comments - as long as constructive - useful. And the environment in which we have interest and activity, it is worth.
Our Projektionist Axel yesterday made a very important statement: leisure, we should invest.
To lei
Antwort von jeantier:
PS. @ creeping michel.
Wuah "however, is the guide to slide perception" indeed a Fliegenschiß. If all a beer or soda ne go drinking together.
Given is certain to make any difference ....
Antwort von tfp:
Lordi sounds to me like ehr the name of a Smurf, but fits irgentwie this: Hefti, Brainy, Torti, Handi and Lordi ... synonymous if the topic now but again there is a little back.
In the beer-and Limotrinken I am in the process, but we should try before the Tequillarunden come to a conclusion, otherwise it villeicht something creative ...
Antwort von Ivy:
Hi!
So, this thread has developed mal richtig toll. Talk, Talk! And I already hear us cry out for Shakespeare, Nietzsche, Goethe and Besson!
Have once again relating to symbolism, s.dessen criticism on my part, some of you upset.
Of course, there are masters of symbolism '. Some are already there, you can add to the list, I think in any case, even with Leone and Lynch. With these great directors, but I do not think that the symbolism ()
itself, as in advertising and Sat.1 world premieres, but is
subordinate to the plot,
subversive in the best case. Should read: The example would be with) the cars (Page 1, 3rd Post Leone are found neither in nor in nor in Lynch, Kubrick, etc.. Never. If anything, this would be either the main theme of the entire film represented Lynch (Besson) or the equality of the cars would be mentioned so unimportant that they did not noticed, is accordingly so subliminally sneak into the brain of the viewer would. Both of these options are meaningful for me Umgehensweisen with the symbolism. Unfortunately, they still remain the exception.
Lg,
Ivy
Antwort von jeantier:
So, this thread has developed mal richtig toll. Ivy Find'ich synonymous to love you.
have s.dessen criticism on my part, some of you upset Nope actually bothered None of it. But now I think we thought but actually all the same ... with the symbolisms
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Antwort von Ivy:
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Well, so much the better ... ;-)
Lg,
Ivy
Antwort von jeantier:
Come on, we get ne third Page, now especially with the great themes of synonymous still out.
Antwort von Acer:
Thou perhaps push up your posting rate? I was even accused of synonymous steveb ...;.)
Antwort von jeantier:
My posting is damn me, I'm um's theme ...
Antwort von tfp:
Come on, we get ne third Page, now especially with the great themes of synonymous still out. Good, then we must look to discuss individually the various Genes ...
I personally love the old film noir and the look, the clear picture composition without irgentwas, the gloom and narrowness of the extravagant sets and camera angles that are now back in vogue (thanks Tarrentino) question mark.
Antwort von jeantier:
Noir is synonymous gan my profession, the old Alan / Ladds and Maltese Falcon are probably nen Hit.
Besides, look forward to animal ANGELA, no preference whether the received bad reviews and really is not synonymous Noir, but Besson.
Antwort von axn:
You are doing so well and gscheit schreim jean animal, I love you. Are you big and synonymous hates black Harre?
Antwort von jeantier:
:-)
as said in Shrek2 so beautiful .... "I can be anything for you" :-)
But irgednwie we lose the theme more and more ... Schade.
Just today it was a great start. Na denn ...
Thanks dear s.alle ...
Antwort von tfp:
The trace of the Maltese Falcon is synonymous one of my favorite movies (Sam Spade looks cool), we can only hope that it does not come at a terrible remake like the Pink Panther, to a desire to film a success-for-all-times avoided (Ok, the Pink panther is not a film noir, but the remake) is simple shit, I just wanted rid of.
Angel-A is running with us as far as I know in any movies, because of her, I probably have to wait until the movie comes once it's there on TV or on DVD.
Antwort von jeantier:
Boah knock on wood three times, with us already.
I'm really happy on it. Rie Rasmussen is surely (the ladies here rübergeworfen one smug forgiveness) an animal. Jezz ... this is really a great, great, Goss - very big ... Photo on ... ;-)
And I think as None Besson was able to catch the essence s.ihr better ... ok at least in the trailer covered ..
Pink Panther was really a disaster, even though I love Steve Martin, but his "Amürger" - was really worth seeing if the only synonymous - unfortunately ...
I have to once again make a hot cup of coffee and genuine Java reinziehen Dead bear no pants, plaid pardon ...
Antwort von jeantier:
@ powermac
jezz ... I les'immer still there ...
Antwort von tfp:
I like Steve Martin not particularly (as Rigby Reardon Although he is not bad) and Java, I've never drunk coffee, offer me Cupoccino Infante, is quickly made and with lots of milk and more sugar, just perfect for me ...
