Newsmeldung von slashCAM:Hier geht es zur Newsmeldung: Werner Herzog on RED
Antwort von camworks:
the Duke does to say with such ridiculous:
the red is a non-sophisticated camera of computer people who do not sensitivity or no understanding of the value of high-precision mechanics have, which has an old 200-year history. na sure, you should probably build electronic cameras with as many gears. s.besten then side a viewing window in the red-making body, which should maintain the mechanics Duke sees the inner and in doing so is quite warm around the heart.
everything moves faster than a library, is a problem for the red camera. ja nee, is klaaar. I would say that he has already disqualified himself. certainly need the red one 4 minutes to boot, but you'll have to change during the shoot synonymous every few minutes, the film cassette as in chemical film. I wonder what the total expected rotation time lasts longer ...
Such types, such as Duke are dinosaur that will die off because they are morbidly s.altem maintain and too inflexible. He should speak only to matters better, of which he knows a lot, namely, the filmmaking itself film-or video technique is obviously not his hobby.
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
In 3-perf runs a 300-zines around 14 and a half minutes, in 2-perf, it is 22 minutes. Magazines are dependent of a camera system in 40 seconds changed, and the wizard is similar synonymous with the remaining term of the Magazine of the expected length of the recording scene s.and changes necessary to rotate the magazine. The Shortends either be used on other occasions, or they are sold / given away.
The commentary with the library is indeed exaggerated teasing, but there is something true in it, in its execution. It is simply that which promised the digital wave (remember, faster, more flexible and usgünstiger * cough *).
The German film culture has made a fool of himself in terms of Werner Herzog, he can calm the synonymous times in other areas. Has he not, in my eyes.
Antwort von camworks:
I know my film with only very rudimentary know of (although that is 3perf and 4perf that it is synonymous 2perf I did not know) and therefore does not want me to lean far out of the window.
spontaneously but you can certainly synonymous with chemical film (which he so beautifully mw incorrectly calls "celluloid", the celluloid should fire start times have long gone from not turn his). what usually synonymous with scenic film is not at all necessary. after all, a setting must be set up.
well, ultimately I find his arguments quite wrong. if it goes after that, we could build 200-year mechanics synonymous in formula 1 racing car-and rockets. These are synonymous saved, where people spend no understanding of ancient technology.
Antwort von paddefilm:
Well, two Red-jobs, is twice evaporated us the mill. Once it was too cold and once it was) a hot spot in the center (chip failure. Once Ersatzbody once about 30min wait ... Relating to much time is money ...
Sowas is me, at least during rotation at 35 and 16 never happened ... and yes, I'll give the Red anyway next ne chance ... ;-)
padde
Antwort von camworks:
I know some who have no stress with their red ones. Perhaps you had only one monday comes. sowas gibts everywhere. so directly to demonize all saved by the spirit claimed that the developer had no understanding of film, I just think is ridiculous. I bet the Duke knows the developers are not looking.
Antwort von canovision:
So I think that work is in general only s.Montag RED!
Announcements unsettle pot.Käufer Years, in such leaps of time usually works only the Vatican.
If a practitioner as Hr.Herzog this statement comes, he will know what he speaks!
And: The much-maligned 200 years "very old technology was" and forms the basis for what later folgte.Vieles it still works perfectly synonymous, whether one of today's technology synonymous same can be said in 200 years? I doubt it!
Antwort von paddefilm:
Lol, just .... Duke of the old warhorse has virtually synonymous in my fool's freedom, at least .... after a sniper had shot at it (see Youtube lol) ...
Antwort von Bernd E.:
In this context, it is synonymous another article from the same issue quite interesting to read:
Antwort von camworks:
So I think that work is in general only s.Montag RED!
Announcements unsettle pot.Käufer Years, in such leaps of time usually works only the Vatican. the one has nothing to do with the other. But damn ...
Antwort von camworks:
The German film culture has made a fool of himself in terms of Werner Herzog, ... the times you can clarify this please?
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
Sure, but first a few other comments.
Celluloid is a term for conventional film okay. Nitrate film is flammable. For this reason - and with due consideration of your ignorance about the handling of s.Set film - disqualifizierst rather put yourself in order to disqualify an opinion as a filmmaker to want.
Christian Berger said release compared to Sony's practice of incomplete / inefficient for film cameras, shocked, quite. It will take a few years, ready to be worked up inexpensive AND reliable. As long as you should not blame the filmmakers Dinosauriertum diehards and if they decide to base it on the established and reliable ways of inherently fragile one company taking the name "film" in hand. Erstmal and nothing will change nothing unless DoPs not seem like flying blind, and cameras without a focal plane mark on the market are (okay, okay ... old chestnut - but ONE example of where the Duke allowed this remark exaggerated).
For Werner Herzog: This gentleman had for some time now produces films. Some of them were not so synonymous revelation. But nevertheless, make it the least of his films to find here in Germany at all to a lender. Usually it turns out that the films long after the release in America, and the rest of the world here to enter, without (thus wasting significant public relations) and sometimes just as a DVD release, which then runs here and there in some cinemas, where anyway will see only the same noses are.
Clearly this is not directly a blunder of the lender, because they're essentially a profit, and in the shortest time possible and as effectively as possible. But I do feel a certain Defitzit Holschuld in the audience that it does not reflect the market that it views one synonymous Bluray wishes of Tarkowski (synonymous like other pearls of the East ... not only the West) or except on TV " the ollen "Fassbinder's melodramas synonymous times the rocky films, like" Satan's Brew "or Nirg really available" game path "shows ... Or just what NEW! At least, comes "World s.Draht" out now as a double DVD by Arthaus.
But overall I see little s.deutsch Film horizon of promise. At most Hochhäusler, Akin and Co. to move in an interesting direction. While someone like Duke abroad cheerfully crude material filmed, Haneke (okay, he's austrian) profits that it can work internationally while here ... and apparently produced in Germany a good / successful / foreign films will be spectacular, it gets in this country somehow Only rarely does anyone on the line. Since the Nordic countries show a little more courage.
Antwort von Pianist:
It will take a few years, ready to be worked up inexpensive AND reliable. Nope, try Simply drop the Ikegami Editcam HD from which you can now synonymous for rent in all major cities in the German media.
Matthias
Antwort von Schleichmichel:
Wow. Finally in the rental? After how many years?
Antwort von Pianist:
Wow. Finally in the rental? After how many years? The undertone of your question, I do not understand. The four Vorserienkameras in the spring of 2007 for a whole world of animals series filmed in action. In the summer of 2007, series production began, I have my time since then. This camera has first been established mainly for individual users who have their own workflow completely under control, while the SD version so many years is synonymous with a number of European television stations in operation. Obviously, the experience of recent years so positive that have decided in the summer of 2009 several German camera owner to take the unit in the distributor.
Then you can work with this camera just as with every previous EB-camera, I see no problems in practical use. Here you get a quality that extends synonymous for digital movies. People need to just have only one clear plan for dealing with the mass data, then there are no problems.
Matthias
Antwort von camworks:
@ creeping michel:
Thanks for the detailed explanation about Duke.
Antwort von ksr:
For Werner Herzog: This gentleman had for some time now produces films. Some of them were not so synonymous revelation. But nevertheless, make it the least of his films to find here in Germany at all to a lender. Usually it turns out that the films long after the release in America, and the rest of the world here to enter, without (thus wasting significant public relations) and sometimes just as a DVD release, which then runs here and there in some cinemas, where anyway will see only the same noses are.
Clearly this is not directly a blunder of the lender, because they're essentially a profit, and in the shortest time possible and as effectively as possible. But I do feel a certain Defitzit Holschuld in the audience that it does not reflect the market that it views one synonymous Bluray wishes of Tarkowski (synonymous like other pearls of the East ... not only the West) or except on TV " the ollen "Fassbinder's melodramas synonymous times the rocky films, like" Satan's Brew "or Nirg really available" game path "shows ... Or just what NEW! At least, comes "World s.Draht" out now as a double DVD by Arthaus.
But overall I see little s.deutsch Film horizon of promise. At most Hochhäusler, Akin and Co. to move in an interesting direction. While someone like Duke abroad cheerfully crude material filmed, Haneke (okay, he's austrian) profits that it can work internationally while here ... and apparently produced in Germany a good / successful / foreign films will be spectacular, it gets in this country somehow Only rarely does anyone on the line. Since the Nordic countries show a little more courage. Well said!
Nothing against Fassbinder, but there is more, it's true!
And that the name "Duke" in Germany no longer occurs, although the man is very productive, is a shame ...
Interesting things are fortunately some of them already synonymous out ( "All other", "Jerichow", ...) - but then again if one looks like a crude concoction like "Friendship is getrailert", you could be frustrated already .. .
Antwort von Axel:
Perhaps the last posts show that RED is not the only answer to the previously raised issue of an efficient production technology for digital movies. Digital screening has similar disadvantages compared to their analog sister, as for RED vs. Duke. Arriflex notes. However, one should not casually with
immature, poorly translated. Know ye not, as photographers were smiling compassionately on digital cameras? A little more than a decade. In the long run, the digital approach clearly has had more potential, but you have to mature the technology. What especially has potential is potentially cheaper film, RED, Ikegami, or even well below ...
In the past I've seen everything there was of Werner Herzog.
Fitzcarraldo after I stopped. The films are technologically immature, to say at times quite nice. That they were expensive and many busy professionals, they were surprisingly close s.Amateur-Holiday Film.
Aguirre, Nosferatu and
Fitzcarraldo to live at the mention of
only the landscape and from ollen Kinski. What makes Duke, his grumpy attitude, seeing the world "poetic" to. Being for one megapräzises high-end tools needed, as he says? I would say, a likable fellow.
Antwort von camworks:
The commentary with the library is indeed exaggerated teasing, but there is something true in it, in its execution. It is simply that which promised the digital wave (remember, faster, more flexible and usgünstiger * cough *). If the full path of production and distribution is digital, it will be faster and cheaper. currently there - especially because of the investment synonymous tiredness in the movie industry including cinemas - a mischmasch of digital, analog and digital back. escape at the cost to simply have time to wait until the bankruptcy of the analog.
Antwort von camworks:
Celluloid is a term for conventional film okay. Nitrate film is flammable. For this reason - and with due consideration of your ignorance about the handling of s.Set film - disqualifizierst rather put yourself in order to disqualify an opinion as a filmmaker to want. no, I do not disqualify me, because you lie with your assertion wrong: celluloid film is the same as nitro movie, is it just a movie, abbreviation of nitro cellulose nitrate film. nowadays is used only acetate and polyester film.
see here: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zelluloidfilm
question then is, who disqualified himself here. to all my arguments about the red technique (one 4 '30 "boot and then recorded onto drive for hours or every 14' 30" once a cassette is changed do not think I did a lot) of you nothing. and to establish the necessary adjustment for a scenic film (that was the time required) for as little of you received as to the fact that regular at the scenic film surely is no need to rotate spontaneously.
Antwort von Jott:
The Duke has but to speak accurately of spontaneous Rotate, because he just likes to do. Now is good time for the RED is not at all. For minutes boot times are perverse, not that you need blandish. I've missed things because a Z1 or something begrudge sometimes ten seconds, until they losläuft. Even the sick one to have, depending on how you work. Why is the Duke, an old Schrat just because he puts his finger into a technical wound?
Antwort von camworks:
of "forest demon" was not speaking only of "dinosaur". And this is understood not to be optical. ;-)
arose when the cars have all laughed at this poor synonymous "spielerei. although the car belonged to the future and laugh that's the horse-drawn carriage gone by pretty fast.
But like so many things are synonymous, the red one is not perfect. konsorten arri and have just 100 + years ahead, it's true. Therefore, the developer of video cameras with such remarks as massacred gequotet top of me, I think anyway for a wrong and arrogant. after all, a red one is a factor of 1000 built as a complex ne arri 35 mm film camera.
Antwort von Pianist:
I've missed things because a Z1 or something begrudge sometimes ten seconds, until they losläuft. One should differentiate between two situations:
1. How long does it take before the recording starts when you press s.einer already turned on the camera button? This should naturally "happen right away" and not after a few seconds.
2. How long does it take to start the recording when the camera was switched off earlier? Because I think 10 seconds defensible, especially since this has in Betacam-SP-era synonymous lasted about as long.
If you really waiting for an important event, then you should better use a hopefully existing Retroloop function, not to miss the crucial recording to.
Four minutes up time are of course unacceptable. I have read today the first time. Another indication that the camera referred to in the title is not correct in practice, in addition to the already sufficiently known deficiencies, of which one learns only by chance something. Can one become synonymous with the RED record sound? And there is now a suitable self-cooling or Barney has been reduced to the level of fan noise? I remember saying during a s.einen Camera comparison: "time" Can anyone turn off the RED? "I do not understand ..."
Matthias
Antwort von Pianist:
after all, a red one is a factor of 1000 built as a complex ne arri 35 mm film camera. Maybe this is already the first problem ... :-)
Matthias
Antwort von B.DeKid:
The Duke has but to speak accurately of spontaneous Rotate, because he just likes to do. Now is good time for the RED is not at all. For minutes boot times are perverse, not that you need blandish. I've missed things because a Z1 or something begrudge sometimes ten seconds, until they losläuft. SPONTANEOUS WHO of which turns the already spontaneously?
Alein is so need a tripod 10 to 15 minutes to set it up and - SPONTANEOUS - you can shoot with any crap nem phone - but when it turns FILM None Spontaneously!!
All doubters and the envious talk bad about Red Hat products - someone here has gathered years of cameras - had enough money and then have the courage even entwickeeln his desire to camera - and has called RED. For this, the man thanked heard!
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von camworks:
SPONTANEOUS WHO of which turns the already spontaneously?
But is such a tripod takes 10 to 15 minutes to set it up and - SPONTANEOUS - you can shoot with any crap nem phone - but when it turns FILM None spontaneous!! true words spoken calmly.
Antwort von Jott:
"Whenever you have to reboot the camera, it takes 4 ½ minutes or so. It drove me insane, because sometimes something is happening and you can not just push the button and record it."
Now he has time right. The RED is a fine thing, but it has flaws that you may not need. The thing is just as perfect as any other camera. The pseudo Fanboygehabe to acknowledge is, sorry.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
"Whenever you have to reboot the camera ,...... Now the legitimate counter-question - when you have to switch off for the camera and start again - probably only between takes - that is, when man changes the Possition and synonymous to all light / Tripods and state positions Points / Marker - redefining / build, right? !
So who has zero time of 5 minutes is really no time in life.
In addition, film directors who have since built itself on its cameras.
Let him go, thus creating what was synonymous with no time lost for the change of lösstige Lenses
http://www.movie-camera.it/Fotografie/B&H134-torretta.jpg
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Jott:
When you have to switch off for the camera and start again Suspended software, overheated, I know - the need to answer the people who really do with a RED to: full-time assistant cameraman. Which are anyway the best source of information of this kind - no possession, no Regisseurstolz ( "shot on RED"), only users who are happy or upset about the details either.
Antwort von Mantas:
4.5 min?
So now spontaneously from recollection, about one minute I would say.
something like abstürze have been relaxed a year ago a rarity.
visual errors, there are not synonymous, if the correct conditions.
Antwort von meawk:
Well. . .
RED is a hype. . .
How has the right to Werner. Spontaneity - anyway a foreign word for most film productions, so yes id synonymous R. so boring and soporific, with a RED kannste forgotten.
And why is the Duke in Germany as well as no longer occurs, which is not s.ihm but s.der idiotic masses. . .
Just look at what matters here in Germany so - that is all BullShit from Hollywood or some Keinohrhasen or Einohrnasen or what always synonymous - total idiocy cinema. . . Main thing is that the mass has a few laughs throughout the approximately 90 minutes unit soup (there are some exceptions, thank God - 3 to 97 so roughly).
And even so intelligent with the shooting stage, where spontaneity is not even supposed to ask more or would never take place, one can already hear it any more at all, or are statements of those who front of the boring lectures, film schools, or study the forest louder trees out of sight - shoot grottenlangweiliges stilted usually
LG
