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Frage von jenzi:


Hi,

I would like to see an S-VHS VCR and growth in order to:

Purchase VHS cassettes (with the shooting are not yet available on DVD) with split Y / C signal with the TV card incorporated.

This is synonymous not the problem, I can do and have done it already knows what quality comes out. I want me to make a really good buy S-VHS.
Actually I only need the following in regard to VCR:

S-Video Output
RCA stereo output
TBC
The EDIT mode where a certain frequency lock is turned off
Much rausholen from the image signal
Switching between standard and hi-fi possible

So any great recording, editing, or similar functions are actually irrelevant to me. However, I would not actually a device of 1995 or so, prefers a more current. I actually wanted me the Panasonic HS960 or NH-930 growth, however, the now or the current 120 bad (And the test results from Video Magazine wrong) since I liebäugele with a JVC, because finally, the inventor of VHS and S - VHS system. Actually, I wanted my JVC HR-S9850 fetch, however, is on eBay and never have emerged if it gets there to buy, it will be very expensive.
My question is, how far can we in the HR-S-series "grow down" without that the picture and sound quality (much) worse, but only the special features?
Has anyone experience with devices from this product line?
Or is this HR-S series scrap just like the new Panasonic and I have to dodge an old machine?

I hope you know what about this:)

Ciao
Jens



Antwort von beiti:

I do not think that the S-VHS recorder great improvement compared to a VHS recorder brings. (The composite signal is on the VHS recording. What should the post-splitting as improve?)

I would place first in s.Deiner a good AD Converter with TBC (Canopus ADVC 300) to invest, because the opposite is true TV-quality maps of advantages. To do this you can then, if not already present, an ordinary DVD recorder as a player to buy.



Antwort von Quadruplex:

"beiti" wrote: I do not think that the S-VHS recorder great improvement compared to a VHS recorder brings. (The composite signal is on the VHS recording.
Nope - the popular home video systems (and synonymous semi-professional systems such as U-matic) have been characterized anno Composite dunnemals no to - so they would have to range up to 5 MHz can record clean. If you have a VHS (or S-VHS recorder) with a composite signal reingehst, the Farbträger detached, lowered (on VHS at 627 kHz; Color under) and stored separately. When playing it back to 4.43 MHz and then set up with either the monochrome signal Y is output as a composite signal or simply as a YC (S-video).
"beiti" wrote: What should the post-splitting as improved?
It will not split, but, as described, summarized. If you are with S-video go out, you save the summary to composite, then the PC (or Grabberbox) reversed to be. Whether the difference in practice is large, is another question.
"beiti" wrote: I would place first in s.Deiner a good AD Converter with TBC (Canopus ADVC 300) to invest, because the opposite is true TV-quality maps of advantages.
Make no mistake.
"beiti" wrote: To do this you can then, if not already present, an ordinary DVD recorder as a player to buy.
Unfortunately, there is almost only scrap. I mention here from the S-VHS field, if it gets used good condition, again the Panasonic NV-SV 120 of the EC.
The older JVC S-VHS recorder with TBC also make a good picture, but have the unpleasant habit s.Anfang each new record just a few seconds until the need to synchronize. Is annoying when it comes to the main movie is not there always something forward.

As for the original questioner mentioned video magazines are concerned: If this "video" meant to be - the level is in fact strongly decreased. Somehow shortly after the new chief editor, almost all the old editors and staff gone. And the new in the current issue could not even explain Letterbox clever.



Antwort von Eva Maier:

@ Jenzi
I currently use the HR-S7600, HR-DVS3 and the HM-HDS1 of JVC, which are in my opinion all 3 quite useful.
Best Picture I had, however, with recorders of Panasonic.

Your project should all but ggf s.Kopierschutzsignal fail, and the little bit of quality that you can get out then if you lose you with a TV card aufnimmst.
Buying cartridges are slightly different than self-recorded discs because it may be that you're with a normal recorder synonymous relatively good results.
A better way because a Canopus Converter and Via Firewire yourself.

/ E



Antwort von Markus:

"Eva Maier" wrote: Best Picture I had, however, with recorders of Panasonic.
Which I share. Panasonic had the best time (S) VHS and produced their drives are still recorder (regular representations / digitization used) s.meinem cut square.

Unfortunately, it has become closely with spare parts. If a head drum adopt can only be a similar device used to buy and ausschlachten. - Pity for the analog resources in the archive. :-(



Antwort von smooth-appeal:

As for the copy, there are effective devices in the electrical trade, which is the "problem" bypass. I omitted the word but if it is still of interest can I ask again yes.

A relative has such a device and as far as I can remember so that one could even improve the picture quality but my nails do not determine * g *

What is are quite synonymous old VHS equipment. Have one without copy protection function. If one of him playing well you get the pure signal. These devices are, however, since over 17 years is no longer available, if I remember correctly.

Greeting
smooth



Antwort von JMitch:

@ smooth
Sometimes it pays when you're in the public a little less helpful is ...



Antwort von Markus:

"Quadruplex" wrote: If you are with S-video go out, you save the summary to composite, then the PC (or Grabberbox) reversed to be. Whether the difference in practice is large, is another question.
The difference should be less in the Resolutionbemerkbar rather than in cross-color effects and the like.

Overall, I see the synonymous so that a VCR with Y / C connector is better suited as a model with composite output. A comparison of the Y / C and composite output of a SVHS recorder is still pending, so far as I understand only Y / C was used. Two different recorder fails s.Vorhandensein against possible equivalent (!) VHS recorder.

Cross-reference:
VHS VCR for playback



Antwort von jenzi:

Hi,

I think I am going to give me a JVC HR-S9600 purchase.
Regarding the purchase a converter Canopus ala I am not sure the picture quality of the S-Video input of TV card do I actually okay. These synonymous my question:
The first recording of videos, all Programs, except VirtualDub and VirtualVCR, as proved useless, because only these the "frame drops" then recorded and the video / audio sync.
What does that mean for the Canopus ADVC things from?

Ciao, Jens






Antwort von beiti:

"jenzi" wrote: Regarding the purchase a converter Canopus ala I am not sure the picture quality of the S-Video input of TV card do I actually okay. I do not know if you have a "super-quality TV card searched. All TV-cards that I have ever seen, take in a rather modest quality. In this respect I find funny, that you to improve image quality while a new video player to purchase, but still want to use TV card.

Quote: The first recording of videos, all Programs, except VirtualDub and VirtualVCR, as proved useless, because only these the "frame drops" then recorded and the video / audio sync.
What does that mean for the Canopus ADVC things from? When Canopus Picture and sound are added together; Asynchronität there are not. Apart from this, should be with good players and good anyway Converter does not support frames lost.

When Canopus is also important to note that he is a DV signal is generated, then the first as a DV-AVI on hard drive and stored only in a further step for the DVD into MPEG2 format is encoded. The quality of the DVD depends not least on the used encoder from.



Antwort von jenzi:

Hi,

I have now the JVC HR-S9600 purchased. And a Canopus ADVC-100. Everything of course with high-quality cables.

So I did the same video, both on the TV card (BT-878) with MJPEG codec as synonymous on the ADVC recorded. A noticeable difference in quality I could not be ascertained, the ADVC-Recording somehow saw something digitalmatschiger from.

But anyway I like the method on the ADVC better because LockedAudio and not so much for the CPU to do, also seems to be no problems with framerate drops to. Or with overdriven sound.

Thanks for your help
jenzi



Antwort von petron:

it would be like with this here. To restore of VHS / SVHS not transport Teste: Ebay Item number: 300140222511



Antwort von jenzi:

"Anonymous" wrote: it would be like with this here. To restore of VHS / SVHS not transport Teste: Ebay Item number: 300140222511

Uh Hello? But I have written above that I am an S-VHS recorder bought!



Antwort von Markus:

This is the seller of the auction itself have posted. Somehow this seems to me obvious.

"jenzi" wrote: The ADVC-Recording somehow saw something digitalmatschiger from.
Could this be a possible Kantenaufsteilung with the TV card connected? Then there would be no real gain s.Detailschärfe, but only a subjective visual trick (with the disadvantage of hems to bright objects).