Frage von McMax:
Halli Hallo,
erstmal praise for this Page! One learns a lot here really. Nevertheless, it is an absolute amateur mega heavy, the right to make a purchase.
I am absolutely new to the area and such is now the perfect entry-level model. Did the super-detailed instructions Kaufberatung of PES and read the answer to the questions are:
- How much money to spend up to? 600 euros
- What you mainly filming? family movies, vacation videos, and the like
- What is the material with plans? cut and edit + DVD!
I've been following models on the shortlist drawn Choice:
- Panasonic NV-GS320
- Panasonic NV-GS180
- SonyDCR-SR32
- SonyDCR-SR50
The GS320 was long my favorite. But the more I read, the more insecure I werd. Slowly, I think I buy now with a "good cheap (under 300 euros) mini-DV Camera and if possible in 3 years the HDD cams are cheaper, I'd like to climb.
Therefore, I am now about whether I am not replacing the cams above one of the following take:
- JVC GR-D 725
- SonyDCR-HC23
- SonyDCR-HC27
- SonyDCR-HC37
- SonyDCR-HC47
- Panasonic NV GS 80 EC S
Wär super if someone NEN good tip or the Council could give his or experiences (positive and negative) to any of the above could indicate Cams. If someone obviously a very different camcorder recommendation for me would be ideal to me would fit, it can be argued of course, synonymous like to be!
So ... many many thanks already times in advance for hopefully many, many contributions!
Ganz liebe Grüße
McMax
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
with the nice-intentioned contribution was to be expected that many will not comment. Multiple price ranges, systems & Company, nor with previous models that is not possible.
Decide first on a system:
MiniDV
+ Technically best picture quality
+ Best treatment option (but slow) with a variety s.Programmen
+ Sophisticated system
+ Cheap tapes
+ Good price
- In 2-3 years of the picture plane disappear
- Old system - holding tape rewind, delete only on reels
HDD
+ Long recording times
+ Herspulen and no out and simple deletion of the scenes
+ Faster DVD creation - but not with any program!
- Expensive
- Vibration risk, particularly at higher altitudes ala 2000 m upwards
When HDD then the Panasonic SDR H 20 - it is in the price category is clearly the number 1 A shortcoming of all HDDs Pana unlike Sony & JVC - the films are not already in the camera to be able to prune - that you can possibly avoid - the screen test, she won impressively.
With miniDV, I would at the GS 320 will remain, except for yourself is a mic input & headphone output is important. Even a GS 230 would be possible, the 3 CCD technology provides stronger s.leuchtend you have not eroded and calculated colors.
If you then take a class but want to go deeper and the GS 80 & HC 47 in the eye, then helps you, perhaps the article:
ask-for-GS80-and-comparison-with-dcr-hc47 VG
Jan
Antwort von McMax:
Hello ...
Thanks for the detailed answer.
Do me now again and have informed me after a long time now and her out on both the camcorder for the final selection set:
Panasonic NV GS 320
Panasonic NV GS 80
I need the camera primarily for family and vacation photos. Both the indoor or outdoor synonymous. Will not overly much money to spend.
The 320er costs around 450 euros, the 80 to 270th
Sure, the 320er wär better, but I am not absolutely sure that for me it is necessary at all, whether or not the order to about 180 euro cheaper 80s would suffice, especially since these synonymous excellent test results achieved.
And how have frequently read, it is miniDV cameras not too long time. Then can I have 3 years to change HDD.
But I am still totally unsure of what I take .... the 320er or 80 ?!?!?!
Many greetings
Markus
Antwort von tomk:
Moin, moin
synonymous if I do not yet have final entschiedne:
200 Eur to save when I buy a quick-GS60 BITTER regretted.
I will probably at least 70 EUR resale lose if new Sonynochmals = 30 for the second battery.
I would be synonymous times in both hands, haptics at 3 years is never unimportant.
Regards
Tom
PS: I've synonymous 2 "super zoom" needed to return to remorseful Nikon (D) SLR return ...
Antwort von renabue:
@ McMax:
if you have to belong to the camcorder (7 of 10), which
cam its only 1 or 2 times a year for short shots
get (ie the maximum 1tape/jahr) you should perhaps
GS80 to try and bring (especially interior shots)
and sometimes. against the GS320 prices.
gruß cj
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
this is very difficult to assess what level of claims and filmmaker has. If it is the first camera since long time, the rate highly, that you with the GS 80're happy - if you do not synonymous Comparison (or for that very reason). The smaller part of the 3 but could Chipper is absolutely necessary, perhaps the filmmakers synonymous wants an S-video output - since when does nothing GS 80 - at GS 320 included.
The GS 80 can be with more optical zoom (for a few films & Beginners) more of a disadvantage and have a significantly better Wide Angle points, which you can see interior shots in quick, Panasonic 3 chip holders come with their 43-46 mm focal rarely to a wide-angle converter drumrum The initial class has 35-37 mm (Pana GS 60.80 - SonyHC 37).
If you sum the majority are paying too much bother - then take the 320th GS
But it is always still more spending, the supplied Battery CGR DU 6 of both models is a joke - well at least you can safely Pana a favorable external battery to buy, minimum order is more than an hour to come - CGA DU 12.14 or 21
You will see in 2-3 years, there will be only MiniDV cameras in the price of entry type, ie the class 200-300 ¬. You can do well s.der current market development.
JVC will like this year's Christmas business in the HDD camcorder drastically reduced - to as low as never before - Sonyand Pana can ever warm dress.
VG
Jan
