Frage von Anita:
Hello.
This much I know already ....
It will be in the recording more frames per second recorded, as when you play then play. This goes with film cameras, rather than with the 24 frames per second film strip with a higher speed transport.
My question is can the SonyPMW-EX1 XDCAM EX HD slow motion film material in HD quality? So in 1080 x 1920 pixels? I read it was only at 720 (1280 x 720 pixiel) is possible. Is that a good slow motion for example, professional advertising is used?
Thank you very much.
lg
Anita
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Photron com - the Fastcam SA1 is as far as I know at the moment so the fastest. A traditional "Camera" is rather inappropriate.
Antwort von PowerMac:
Wtf?
The thee of quoted verbuggte Camera, Anita, can only be used in 50 full record 720p.
Antwort von Anita:
do you mean they can not in 1920 x 1080 pixel recording, or just no slow motion?
Antwort von PowerMac:
As I said, and everywhere is clear:
720/50p
1080/25p
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... in 1920 x 1080 pixels ... no slow motion? So it is: The slow motion is the only 720er format. Sample videos can be found incidentally on Slashcam in testing the EX1.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Bernd as the mean with the "only 720 are available"?
Are we talking about here is of high or recordings of ... how do I make a film in speed will be slower?
So if you have a Trofen milk in Kako trofen want to leave, then this will be perfect to see let us talk of high speed cameras, or?
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... how do the with the "only 720 are available" ... The SlowMotion-operation with the EX1 - as indeed the opposite synonymous piece, the Time Lapse - only in the 720er-Resolutions available, not 1080th On the performance of a special high-speed camera like the Weisscam the Sonynatürlich not come out - that would be a bit much to ask synonymous.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Franz Peter:
Nöp, Time Lapse goes full! ;)
The PMW-EX1 can be recorded with 1 picture / s to 60 frames / s in 720P mode and 1 picture / s to 30 frames / s in 1080p mode generate (in increments of one picture per second).
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Time Lapse even fully ... That is news to me, so thanks for the correction!
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Ah ok now I understand what you are my test. Thank you
Antwort von Daigoro:
Are we talking about here is of high or recordings of ... how do I make a film in speed will be slower?
"slow motion" (ie, frame rate set down) and "high speed recording" (ie more than 25 frames per second) must think I have already distinguished.
"slow motion" you can shoot from virtually all do. 25/30P course material can be set to 1 image / second screw down - provides only stop something from choppy.
50i can rest (with a bit Schaerfeverlust) synonymous to 25p with 50% slow-down expected.
Is everything but rather for domestic use, or 'slow motion', as they are from the television during football / handball etc. knows.
When up there of 'professional advertising' is spoken (the chocolate drops into the impressively full cup drip, etc.), I think there are times "HighSpeed" cameras in the game, the very many images per second.
There seems no 'normal' rankommen Camera (sau and it takes a lot of light).
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Jup seh .... I just wondered desswegen me a little high or the Bernd SlowMotion addressed.
By creating her know I said so "Drop in Kako" only via high-speed cameras.
The very expensive and relatively large amount of data (images) to produce.
Photron systems achieve good results but here are and your "expensive" price worth synonymous!
;-) Mal sehn times this year if ne Fastcam SA1 drin ist ... da hab ich schon ne now thrown an eye on it ;-)
Antwort von Daigoro:
Jup seh .... I just wondered desswegen me a little high or the Bernd SlowMotion addressed.
By creating her know I said so "Drop in Kako" only via high-speed cameras.
The very expensive and relatively large amount of data (images) to produce.
Photron systems achieve good results but here are and your "expensive" price worth synonymous!
;-) Mal sehn times this year if ne Fastcam SA1 drin ist ... da hab ich schon ne now thrown an eye on it ;-) Is synonymous companies where you can make when it's just a project goes. Can you try Google.
Acquaintance of times I was invited as an attempt Rabbit highspeed recordings made of our sport to let .. very impressive result *. :) But of course much too expensive to 'play around'. : (
For home use I once had a tool that I 50i from 50p recordings made by interpolation and the 50Bilder / s then click 25Bilder / s * 2 down reckoned with - that is 50% slow motion. (but I've got it somewhere verschlampt)
* Did the link found nochma (or at least something similar): http://www.nacinc.de/begruessung.html
Unfortunately, only YouTube quality (or lack of it) for the demo recordings.
And another thing http://www.vkt.de/highspeedfilme.html
Antwort von jazzy_d:
The new Casio Exilim Pro EX-F1 (http://www.exilim.de/de/specials/exf1/) has a few great opportunities for HighSpeed SlowMotion or recordings. 60 photos in one second with full 6MP, FullHD 60i video, 300fps video with 512 × 384, 600fps 432 × 192 or even up to 1200fps 336 × 96th Of course, no longer FullHD but 1200fps is interesting. The sample videos look impressive in any case. Even with 300fps you can dazzle viewers.
Antwort von WoWu:
The Samsung VP-HMX20C is synonymous available in 1920x1080 up to 300 frames / sec to be able to make.
Antwort von O`Shannon:
The Samsung VP-HMX20C is synonymous available in 1920x1080 up to 300 frames / sec to be able to make. I've previously only 1920x1080 and 300 frames / sec read, not 300 pictures / sec
at 1920x1080.
Antwort von WoWu:
And the other one does not necessarily exclude ... but I give you right of course ... it would be great, but more than a press release I know it is not synonymous.
Antwort von PUDU:
I am of the new samsung synonymous erstmal appreciated and will in any case, the next watch.
Even if the resolution is lower, the slow but then in a frame in frame with Pal Resolutionzu purposes.
However, as the material is then processed next? gibts da ne or special software?
My editing program (PP) is in a new project not to 300fps?
How is the reality?
Thanks for the replies.
Chris
Antwort von B.DeKid:
.....
My editing program (PP) is in a new project not to 300fps?
How is the reality?
Thanks for the replies.
Chris I guess because it remains at 25fps ;-) Because otherwise probably makes little sense ;-)
High-speed filming.
Antwort von omi:
Your answer makes sense of course. How do I in practice imagine you known me derklären?
If my project settings with either 50i or 25fps were defined, the stream of 300fps so it looks over and immediately after slow motion, or frames are eliminated?
Sorry for the question, am in myself, therefore I know that engineers of the devil is in detail and so probably easier not to be, or maybe ;-)
Thanks Chris
Antwort von Ruskaldi:
A small note about the difference, which is advertised and to what ultimately is in the instructions, using the SAMSUNG VP-HMX20C:
On the website of Samsung, one finds:
Slow feature: 300 fps for 10 seconds (without any indication of a change in the full HD (1920x1080 pixel) resolution)
The instructions can be found: 250 fps for 10s and 448x336 pixel resolution. Not only a deletion of a resolution amending but synonymous unfair rounds!
... I'm still quite shocked that a brand such as Samsung methods!
Antwort von DenisTheMenace:
Photron com - the Fastcam SA1 is as far as I know at the moment so the fastest. A traditional "Camera" is rather inappropriate. yes, but the 5600 fps can be recorded, but at the maximum resolution of 1024x1024. or even higher fps at even lower resolution. but that is ore suitable for research purposes.
Antwort von DenisTheMenace:
The Samsung VP-HMX20C is synonymous available in 1920x1080 up to 300 frames / sec to be able to make.
I've previously only 1920x1080 and 300 frames / sec read, not 300 pictures / sec at 1920x1080. Has the Samsung VP-HMX20C showed a full HD camcorder with 8 GB internal flash memory and 2.7-inch display. The device has a Resolutionvon 1920 x 1080 pixels and can 1.080p mode up to 30 frames per second.
Antwort von jogol:
With 50p or 60p (Varicam) can be used with software tools such as "Retimer" of Realviz or
"Twixtor" of Re: Vision Magnifiers generate prime time if you take the photographs taken a few things, such as overlapping of movements within the image to be avoided. The software analyzes the difference between two images and the motion vectors and the necessary morpht intermediate images. When Varicam with 60p and factor 4 (240 images per second) seen in suitable material, the results are very good.
Antwort von shodushitanaka:
Incidentally, it is actually using the software, live in high-speed falls into or already the beginning of the flat, because the cam only 25fps broadcasts?
Gruss
Antwort von WoWu:
Any software can only absorb what the hardware provides s.Bildern ... falls flat.
Antwort von Ernesto:
na, wie geht denn das?
Antwort von WoWu:
By doubling the half-images ... Result: Half resolution.
Mann calls the synonymous "slomo for the poor." Uralt!
Fields ie 50 x 2 = 50 frames / 2 (half slomo) = 25p
In addition, interlaced with the lines already in the Recording geblured "to later de-interlaced preventing effects.
Twice the number of rows now in order to recover an entire picture to get you to blur the picture of course.
Such images are in HD with cutting original pictures to mix and barely covered immediately. Unless one is particularly demanding and it is only on the Effect of.
Antwort von domain:
So there must be better methods seem synonymous, especially of Vegas, one hears das But in Liquid synonymous with Timewarp 50% are absolutely no differences in quality (with individual images via Photoshop test) between normal and slow motion recording to identify.
What do I know how because herumgedeinterlaced, perhaps first the 2nd on 1st Field and then the 1st on the 2nd, but in any event is possible that the effect simply by filling (double) every second line only in the fields can be achieved.
Antwort von pailes:
I film in 720p/50 and then change the number of images per second to 25 or 24 That is quite passable slow. You can do the same and make additional synonymous with even AE corresponding intermediate frames to generate the speed nor runterzuschrauben next. Like the looks then you can see example here:
The result is however difficult subject of the recording.
Antwort von WoWu:
You can of course do everything possible to make a Solome effect to produce but it remains just the fact that you just can deal with the what the camera has been provided and either loses the spatial-(1080i) or temporal (50p) Resolution .
We can more or less the trick, but no software can conjure ...
Antwort von tatita:
But if you record in 50p and the whole then 25p there again but it has twice the frame number. As should slow to 50% but the best work, right?
Lg
Antwort von WoWu:
Yes, but only half the temporal resolution.
A slomo is not the fact that the images with increasing Effect always be jerky but the fact that the temporal axis with constant temporal Resolutiongestreckt is, the "fluid" movement is preserved.
Otherwise, you could theoretically yes synonymous with 1 Picture / sec play and had a "super-slomo.
That it does not work and there is no man more than slomo recognizes, so you can imagine ...
Antwort von tatita:
Yes ok, understand what you mean. But in the top of my case so it would not be synonymous Jerkiness more or less the same as if I had recorded with 25p. And that should then not actually still shakes his disturbing.
Antwort von WoWu:
Of course, this is a compromise .... some synonymous disturbs the bucking at 15 fps yet.
The approach is so synonymous gin only a question of whether software is a slomo do .... and it works only if you restrict other parameters, either the spatial or temporal resolution. Whether that bothers now is another question.
A "right" slomo can only be produced by the Camera!
All what you later turns out tricking and sometimes is still acceptable, but even the loss of image quality. Also of 50p to 25p ... whether there is now interfering with or not.
Lens, it remains a quality deterioration.
Antwort von domain:
That is a matter of taste. From my point of view is just 25p for sharp movements always a distinctive bucking.
Not for nothing does the right films yes a whole box full of tricks and rules to ensure that this is not so noticeable.
And probably why there are TV sets and 100 Hz and more because not only is Flimmerfrequenz increased, but are actually some 100 interpolated images shown.
Antwort von pailes:
But if you record in 50p and the whole then 25p there again but it has twice the frame number. As should slow to 50% but the best work, right? Correct. If you plan your video with 25 or 24 frames / s to present, then you can use the 50p shots perfect for 50% slow to use. How do I do it so far and am very satisfied.
Antwort von WoWu:
Only if you have a 50p camera has is not in all seriousness to consider, then his film still on 25p to produce, because he only 3 seconds slomo has incised .....
But if the film has 50p and 25p sequence suddenly appears, then drops the course, especially on jerks.
Antwort von pailes:
Only if you have a 50p camera has is not in all seriousness to consider, then his film still on 25p to produce, because he only 3 seconds slomo has incised ..... Basically, I give you right, but yet it comes to the application to. For a sports video, I would consistently synonymous want 50p, but I can imagine that for many projects 50p slightly oversized (to liquid) effect.
