Hi guys, I would already have a tomorrow s.liebsten h buy XL1 go, but now there is the question whether possibly a successor comes out this year. Has someone heard rumors or insider tips? I spend my 10 K and 3 months later a new XL "h sehn already in the showcase would be annoying. Would therefore like to ask whether someone has a tip.
Clearly if during the warranty period, a new one comes you can use the "old" re-sell yes yes but should not be. Thank you for tips and other links Comments.
I do not think that this year a new version comes out. Canon has not announced, and it is somehow very unusual, that "suddenly" there are new products. Usually one learns of the new cameras (the higher price segment) as far in advance that there is no deadline is in prospect, as with Panasonics Konter blow to the HD1000, at least there was no date mentioned, when the display appeared.
Even though it might only be said was, what I want to add, if this is not so: 10K, I would not spend, but they are starting from
Antwort von flori:
just theoretically, what should be a new XL HX really benefits?
The present is succinct 250-300 ASA, will be more likely with CCD 1 / 3 chips in Full HD synonymous in the future do not really go. See, ne current XCDAM EX with 1 / 2 inches and CMOS sensors (which actually is made of light more likely) to bring the current 400-500 ASA, ne HPX and Varicam with 2 / 3 inch chip to the 800 -- 900 ASA (at 720p pixel chip). Sony HDCAM be synonymous only about 350-450 have ASA. So I see no advantage s.Lichtstärke, better gain / noise might be, I would not buy it.
It has 1 / 3 inch chips, until now, Canon has never been synonymous with larger ne Cam chips and had until the A/G/H1 Selling synonymous, it is probably not much more professional type of Canon, since I would be skeptical if they are then their first Profikam aufn market, Canon has good optics and good chips, but Sony or Panasonic are already longer s.Markt and you know the quality is there, so would perhaps synonymous not sell well. Larger chips and thus synonymous better contrast, I see that is not synonymous.
What are schärfe H1 was hitherto very well, A/G1 comparable. Otherwise, even of the Sony XDCAM EX. But the focus is really on the level of its HDCAM fat, you can see here really only the codec, the contrast behavior and the depth uncertainty for the H1 is not it.
New Optics? Even if, almost not worth it, it still costs less than half of the camera itself, rather more.
New Codec? Now there are some HD codecs, do not believe the new Canon NEN rausbringt. If so would probably be on the memory card out, because tape systems are IMMOMENT s.Markt not as represented. And if, HDV wirds not AVCHD would probably resign if synonymous HDV very well and should be both in the color does not take. So what larger, is therefore not to HDV (DV)-tapes, is not synonymous to SD cards (I say now). Thus, at least ne ne improved color resolution of 4:2:2 and thus bring ne higher data rate. So, other media and if they should be professional tapes, which are expensive and memory cards for data sone is not synonymous with the price of SxS and P2.
Connections? The H1 has everything it needs to prosumer and professional process.
Anything else? Everything else is then somehow back on the consumer market back (Scene Files and son Gedo).
So out of me:
new new XL HX really need to spend what -1 / 2 "or 2 / 3" chips have best-CCD 2K Resolution / Minimum Full-HD Light above 500-ASA Contrast extent of at least 9-10 Apertures Sharpness-minimally higher (not much goes H1 is super hot) Optics-manual without CAs. -4:2:2 Codec -hard drive or memory card
So what ne new HX total price would be at least ¬ 15,000 more direction 20.-25,000 ¬.
I'll tell you if you get ne Camera Wilster take the H1, which is better Canon probably will not produce and then if the price is more expensive than two H1.
So nimm dir ne H1, using the opportunity at some point the NEN disk recorder HD-SDI is better (much better than HDV) and possibly NEN P + S MINI35 (depending on).
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Thanks you for your assessment and / or Comment (Comments) on the market situation
And with 10 K, I felt rather purchase plus the corresponding WW. Minus any savings via license and etc. I'm still at 10 K roundabout. Sorry if I am wrong because irgenwie said.
Well I just wanted to inquire times. as you so maybe bekämme tips.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
@ floristic Hui Thanks you for this factual assessment.
I thought just after the XH A1 Kam, and now the 1 IIID Now perhaps synonymous on the XL would be made Aänderung ne ....( see eg synonymous, the new 450 D model which is quite surprisingly, therefore, came) And then just as the XL 2 came out I had just finished NEN half a year prior XL1S purchased. Also, so as to appear with the XL 1s errors or known to the XL 1 Markel ironed out.
I personally appreciate the quality in terms of Canon lenses and very like the XL series has always been good to me precisely because of this fact (such as interchangeable lenses) (synonymous if I am here in regards to educating Sonymal hab ;-)
I just L IS lenses I s.meiner present for example in setting up Cam Surf matters and may with the results / outcomes quite good life .... I would only like a miss or need to change Sonynun must .... LIS lenses with the EF adapter does not hit the absolute umbeding are already clear to me, but to the other camp is easy to change the existing equipment after my Meihnung too expensive.
As I said I am to all tips and advice, thanks to cash, even though your very detailed and objectively was. Thank you MfG B. DeKid
PS Note if you are already ansprichst I asked already several times before NEN days of experience with Slashcam see thread FireStore FS C. Do you have the recording as an additional option (in addition to extra recording tape) would make sense. A friend from Canada using such a device s.einer Panasonic and is convinced. And it brought me to the product.
Antwort von dash snow:
"B. DeKid" wrote:
Thanks you for your assessment and / or Comment (Comments) on the market situation
And with 10 K, I felt rather purchase plus the corresponding WW. Minus any savings via license and etc. I'm still at 10 K roundabout. Sorry if I am wrong because irgenwie said.
Well I just wanted to inquire times. as you so maybe bekämme tips.
Not wrong, just more! :-D But then so are all eliminated clarities :-)
Antwort von flori:
So was the XL1 was synonymous against ne XL1S already very bad, but is stupid with the XL2 with you. Did end of 2005 ne XL2 had had meanwhile times with almost all cameras in the prosumer field work, was always Panasonic and Canon s.besten, I currently have ne HVX including Fire Doors concerned is working very well, have him synonymous times s. The XL2 uses synonymous has everything fit.
See Fire in the gates which is directly beneficial s.seine images may come to be synonymous in the appropriate codec available to play on it via FW in HDV / DV synonymous quickly. For DVCProHD ists synonymous ok.
The only real changes in the ne new H1 still might have a lot to me just so and would be 1080p50 or 720p50. Or. real slow, but it goes somewhere to stop all the data and NEN new codec. See prior to 2009 no new synonymous Camera of Canon, Panasonic at ehr.
Guck dir mal otherwise the HPX500, it is synonymous ne good camera, not as sharp as the H1, but a better codec, more light (about 1 1 / 2 Doors), higher contrast, 2 / 3 inch chips. Do not necessarily synonymous ne HD Optics drauf (too expensive, too little use), many of which are synonymous with its favorable SD Optics very good to drive.
Antwort von flori:
For Fire doors again, as Canon does not have its own Maz. and offering the tapes of the SonyMazen often does not recognize must be obligatory on the H1 transfer (sometimes synonymous ne HV10 as a playback bitch). This man kills his band on the long head, the fire doors, the solution can be minimized.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Thanks floristic, with which the play was over to me, hmm well then there must ne HV excuse at the moment I use NEN Sony DV walkman or even ne SONY DCR 330 to play on the Canon XL1S materials, which went so far quite satisfactory. Synonymous Yes, I think the purchase of a C s FS is expected to be given to find the options very interesting easy.
Antwort von r.p.television:
"floristic" wrote:
For Fire doors again, as Canon does not have its own Maz. and offering the tapes of the SonyMazen often does not recognize must be obligatory on the H1 transfer (sometimes synonymous ne HV10 as a playback bitch). This man kills his band on the long head, the fire doors, the solution can be minimized.
So which of my XL H1 or XH A1 recorded tapes running on my 25 Sony HDV VTR einwandfrei. But the CNAC is with 3500, - synonymous grade not cheap. I've started to Focus Fire doors to my XL H1 purchased, but after two weeks returned, because the thing was pure convulsions. Dropouts, unreliable recording start, poor battery performance and same was due to poor processing grotto after the first onset synonymous not remove it. Furthermore, the footage does not s.die XL H1 for viewing off.
Antwort von flori:
Use for the HVX, are of course synonymous other models, have until now had no problem and at its higher data rate, synonymous no dropouts or verpixelungen. Have NEN NEN large and small Battery, mostly kept for 4.5 hours and scarce can I find the full ok.
