Frage von Büschel:
Hello,
I have always used DVD-RAM discs for backing up my data.
Now I once again would need reinforcements.
So far, I always used blanks of Panasonic, Fujifilm and Verbatim, was always quite happy with all.
Well offer synonymous Maxell and Emtec DVD-RAMs at.
Has anyone experience with it?
On ebay there EMTEC blanks at relatively attractive prices, ¬ 6.99 for 5 pieces single-sided, or 9.99 ¬ for 5 piece double-sided. Now the price of course, not everything when it comes to long-term archiving.
Are these blanks useful or cheaper scrap metal?
Antwort von tommyb:
Why do you are using DVD-RAM? To delete the stuff behind you and again to draufzuspielen new things?
Note only, that, in rewritable round media such as DVD-RAM, the wear is shöchsten. That is, once the thing is on the table, then it is with a few unwanted fingerprints, etc. littered
Normal DVD-R are better off, because once one gets saved, the only things out when you need them. In addition, DVD-R is relatively cheap.
Otherwise, is synonymous with blanks: Quality costs money. Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden.
Antwort von HT:
Normal DVD-R are better off, because once one gets saved, the only things out when you need them. In addition, DVD-R is relatively cheap. No you do not. DVD-RAM stores safer (; because of) usDefektemanagement. DVD-RAM really should be the standard for wiederbeschreibare DVD's, but were ousted of DVD-RW and DVD + RW, because they are cheaper (; synonymous but not as well suited to be BackUp).
Therefore: For BackUps are DVD-Ram is the best (; only rational) choice.
All synonymous specification below
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-RAM
Antwort von Büschel:
Therefore: For BackUps are DVD-Ram is the best (; only rational) choice. Right, and remains synonymous with me nothing on the table, so please get back to my concern:
Which DVD-RAMs are s.Besten? What is the quality of the favorable EMTECs? Better or worse? Previously I had always favored the Fujifilm DVD-RAM discs, but cost about 5 pieces as 20 ¬, the EMTEC there are still significantly cheaper.
Antwort von experience_embracer:
The best experience I made with
Verbatim media, no preference whether CD-R DVD-R or DVD-RAM, not a single-disc Verbatim me until now abandoned.
By the way, it's true that RAM is the safest media.
Antwort von Büschel:
Ok, but what have you used? There are some who even with 3x and 5x, then what are explicitly described as being "scratch resistant". For 5ern I had some that were equally s.Anfang broken, s.besten functioned nor scratch resistant.
Ever seen someone mentioned EMTEC or Maxell tested?
At ebay synonymous offers a No-name DVD-RAM ... although very cheap, but well, I am skeptical.
Antwort von tommyb:
Normal DVD-R are better off, because once one gets saved, the only things out when you need them. In addition, DVD-R is relatively cheap.
No you do not. DVD-RAM stores safer (; because of) usDefektemanagement. DVD-RAM really should be the standard for wiederbeschreibare DVD's, but were ousted of DVD-RW and DVD + RW, because they are cheaper (; synonymous but not as well suited to be BackUp).
Therefore: For BackUps are DVD-Ram is the best (; only rational) choice.
All synonymous specification below http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-RAM The error correction uses the Rewrite a DVD-RAM and not when reading. Since the error is just as good / bad as in a normal, once recordable DVD (;-/+ R).
The DVD-RAM is just only in Comparison to a DVD-RW advantage. Only when the same disc more than once like to take backup of files, a DVD-RAM makes sense.
At a price of 2.60 euros for a Verbatim DVD-RAM disc (; Source: rohlinge24.de), we can afford to 9 DVD-R, also of Verbatim (; 100s Spindle 16x at rohlinge24.de). Since I at least I did not run the risk that my DVD-RAM has nine write operations, only 1 / 4 capacity because once the cat threw the thing off the table or the girlfriend that thing is fast once used for powders (; all just examples, not really happening).
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
What rubbish, and the first time even if bad sectors are present, it is at a DVDRAM not even written on it. Who told you such things as told.
I've never used TDK synonymous and no problems, otherwise I take as mentioned Verbatim and Pana.
Antwort von Büschel:
Okay, we can just come back relating to? It went around my experience on various types of DVD-RAM, not a question of which format is s.Besten.
In terms of rewriting, I'll certainly use it, because I as synonymous with the RAW files of my camera memory and in rare cases, once revised and then re-save JPEGs.
So please, back 2 topic, any suspected sources of accidents, such as cat, friend, or if a tree falls on the house are now irrelevant! My windows are securely stored in a cupboard, where only I rangehe.
Antwort von tommyb:
What rubbish, and the first time even if bad sectors are present, it is at a DVDRAM not even written on it. Who told you such things as told. Could you please express your request accurate?
I see no point in my previous post that you are trying to refute with your statement.
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
The error correction takes the very first time not only to describe and rewrite. And you use a RW or R such defective sectors are described in detail as if it would be good. This example does not make the RAM. Look at you Simply drop in the net because there are dozens of info to why you should entrust important data None RW or R. If not then RAM RW rather than R because of the metal mesh that is used here.
Antwort von tommyb:
Uuuuh ... than I had ever claimed otherwise. That's got to me. Or you rewrite, you're hanging around now s.dem "on? Then you should violate the civil service status. The horny on synonymous s.jeder trifle.
BTW: If the DVD-R can not be tested by the description of the writing program ...
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
And what do you want to check with him? Tells you how well your Lesekorrektur in the drive is working? That can drive to drive full of other scans. Of this I do not think the bean.
No, I will hang myself because not only is very clearly a halt DVDRAM for data security and thought a DVD-R, just as a medium for playback in various devices.
Antwort von tommyb:
OMG, no I did not know. I think I am building a shrine for it today.
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
I do not know a shrine, but you can build whatever you want.
Antwort von Büschel:
Okay, someone has to contribute more to the point or what you want you still Zoffe next? If it is the case, perhaps by PN, but not in my theme.
To date came around honestly say as yet no information, why always synonymous. Ignorance or lack of experience?
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
I posted to you but with what Ram I've had good experiences. What do you want to know more?
I do not Zoffe micht, but my time is too precious. I just wanted to explain for what and for what RAM R or RW is good.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
...... but not in my theme.
So far, quite frankly came as yet no information around ,...... Ignorance or lack of experience? LOL
I'd rather say a lack of initiative.
In the meantime, they had already nen dozens of things had ordered.
Feeble thread! Total Sinnfrei the discussion.
Go and make purchase here
Verbatim .... s.and we use in conjunction with Plextor drives to ... other drives we've never before s.Start here.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Büschel:
What do you want to know more? For example, if someone has tested the aforementioned EMTEC or Maxell? Have I not written.
I'd rather say a lack of initiative.
In the meantime, they had already nen dozens of things had ordered. Why are there forums please, if you make yourself is everything eh?
"I call that nonsense ...
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
If I were synonymous to say just a forum for the exchange of experience because the one is. Since he will not need a lot of taste Rohls though perhaps with some of the same Rohl had extremely problems. I can tell you but unfortunately nothing on the EMTEC and Maxell. But why are you not simply take Pana, Verbatim and TDK? I use all Rohl only these three brands, and let me on nothing else. Proof of which I can normally get only A-grade product and good it is.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Why are there forums please, if you make yourself is everything eh? "I call that nonsense ... There are studies / articles about just this Denkweisse described as critical.
Toward questions no one has anything against good discussions are not synonymous, but it was said that a forum should never be used to form his own Meihnung to be slow or in his workflow.
These forums have not really been invented.
As Said Verbatim - Maxwell, of which we had been synonymous, but the Verbatim getting so cheap - Verbatim.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
And where do you want to you then form your opinion?
I can tell you that my personal tests and statements of users where I know they have the idea, is 10 times better than a magazine or something similar with its tests. Since I imagine more clearly my opinion of such statements of the user.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
You are right, I applied it rather synonymous to the factor that people rely so often on forums without superstition itself to become active.
In that case, here you can still somewhat understand what it is .... but there are synonymous forums or topics which one it should not be acceptable.
Because once wrote as the editor of a specialist Stillimage Magazine about how he had searched for weeks after the forums new car - all sorts of useful information and then realized it was awarded as, --
Then, after weeks when he finally decided to go to the dealer of his choice - he was too big for sollch a "great" car ;-)
Maybe we understand now how I meant it.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
Yes, in principle you are right. It should be somewhat synonymous myself active.
Antwort von Büschel:
The EMTEC interest me because they are sgünstigsten. Certainly one should not take for long term archiving the cheapest goods, but DVD-RAM is already by default a few advantages over regular DVD-R / + R (; breittreten now, please not again!).
What speaks against it, save money, if that brings no disadvantages with themselves?
In the case of self-awareness is probably not very favorable, as I want rausholen following 10 years of my blanks, and then say: Shit, the blanks Brand Y are broken, but the mark of X go.
How have the Maxell been doing so?
I would like to again remind you that I want to focus on sharing experiences, not to any would-be psychological statements and purchase advice for cars ...
Antwort von B.DeKid:
As Said Verbatim - Maxwell, of which we had been synonymous, but the Verbatim getting so cheap - Verbatim.
They were ok as synonymous really all of those .... only its use in the DAT cassettes have had bad experiences with Sony.
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von tommyb:
In the case of self-awareness is probably not very favorable, as I want rausholen following 10 years of my blanks, and then say: Shit, the blanks Brand Y are broken, but the mark of X go.
How have the Maxell been doing so? That's the problem. Nobody can tell you whether the blanks that you buy will work today or in 10 years. Aging processes can be simulated in the laboratory synonymous only conditionally.
Cheap goods are now produced favorable views anywhere. And so it remains as favorable, is just saved s.bestimmten bodies. That does not mean that expensive things are necessarily keep longer, but it is most likely.
From experience with old CDs, I can only say that the cheapest parts to dissolve itself after half a year and are no longer readable. For DVDs, it is no different, although I have since my negative experience, CD-R somewhere around 2002 to never again buy the cheapest blanks.
The only one who may well be the Manufacturer can thoroughly recommend is Taiyo Yuden. And sells his stuff in Europe under the name of Fujifilm, Maxell, Panasonic, Plextor, TDK and Verbatim (; Source: Wikipedia).
My recommendation is clearly to the Verbatim. You'll get different opinions than if someone back from the future in time travel.
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
With Verbatim I have made only bad experiences with a single DVD + RW, otherwise always get a good product.
Synonymous, I think that you can say None so right, but just in case I back up everything I had on RAM synonymous additionally on + RW drives because there are simply more normal DVD R untersà than RAM. RAM can not read them all.
Antwort von Büschel:
The only one who may well be the Manufacturer can thoroughly recommend is Taiyo Yuden. And sells his stuff in Europe under the name of Fujifilm, Maxell, Panasonic, Plextor, TDK and Verbatim (; Source: Wikipedia). Ok, this is already a good time info! I think I will take in future to continue to Fujifilm, as they taste-s.besten apparently my LG burner ". With Panasonic, I had been synonymous in a pack 1-2 times outages (; beginning of s.hinüber), with Verbatim. Not by Fujifilm.
I will order my EMTEC but times to supertan treatment to a video. I've usually always the miniDV tapes or the raw images of Flash camcorders somewhere else ...
