Frage von Mittagspause:
Hi, I have been a few years SonyDCR-HC40E used to film and was very satisfied with this.
Since they are now, unfortunately, is broken, I would like a new digital camcorder growth. I got the tips before purchase times read and think s.folgende fundamentals of your camcorder:
- HD-format (high resolution), no preference whether HDV or AVCHD
- Storage media SDHC card (Flash memory)
- Price: up to 700, - Euro; cheaper would be nice.
- Compact, handy and not too heavy.
- Photos are not so important, I have my Digicam.
It is important to me a good quality recording what concerns Picture and Sound.
Thank you for your tips.
Lunch Break
Antwort von raymaker:
HDV is ALWAYS with tape. So you can not search HDV Cam. Otherwise the usual suspects, so often discussed in the forum.
Antwort von Mittagspause:
camcorder and what would you of the following models prefer?
Manufacturer name price Panasonic HDC-SD100 770.00
Panasonic HDC-SD9 550.00
Canon HF100 650.00
Sony HDR-TG3E 600.00
Sony HDR-CX11E 700.00
Sony HDR-CX6EK 680.00
Samsung VP-HMX20C 600.00
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Canon,-P
Antwort von motiongroup:
HDV is ALWAYS with tape. nö that is not true.
Tip my JVC HD30/40
Antwort von domain:
In principle, however, the individual scenes in the JVC in their files stored on hard drive and must therefore not be captured as HDV
Antwort von motiongroup:
Also nö domain ... GZHD all ... Of the 3 to 7 synonymous ..
SonyZ7 the synonymous and the 270 take on CompaktFlash recorder as an option but in a different price class, I mean even the Fire are some solutions there ..
Antwort von domain:
And can those models synonymous transfers via firewire as HDV with real models are carried out?
Antwort von motiongroup:
Jup was one of my first attempts in HDV via Firewire kompatieblen mode to capture ...
Do I need but no more because my Programs Easily with the *. death can bypass ...
in Vad gabs times a report on how exactly it works ...
http://www.videoaktiv.de/Hintergrundinfo/CAMCORDER_Hintergrundinfo/Signalausgabe-in- HDV -1440 - Standard-with-the-JVC GZ-HD7.html
Antwort von domain:
So in short, our questioner is the whole GZ-HD series from this point of view out recommended and especially the GZHD30/40, which also still in AVCHD can store.
Agree with you totally agree.
Antwort von wolfgang:
HDV camcorders can only stand on which a tape drive. JVC that in the medium quality level mpeg2 to disk writes, which is identical with HDV, is of course an entirely different matter - and as far as I know, this can only mean quality over firewire capture.
Presumably transferred but probably most people their files of these devices no longer have firewire - but takes unnecessarily long.
The AVCHD devices would be the Canon HF100/HF11 and SonySR11/12 to mention - there are just the requirements at the higher cut, what you should be aware of beforehand.
Antwort von motiongroup:
na ja do not wirs zerreden Wolfgang still labelt Sonyseinen flash recorder with the HDV logo ..
and the Bandaufname or better said the capture via Firewire is more for the user with the thought of Einzelfileverwaltung and the Timestaps MUST work because their application s.einer number s.QuelleFiles Botsch stretches the ...
Antwort von domain:
Exactly, there are virtually many individual files into a single gemerged, good for Vegas and Premiere can edit and load faster
Antwort von wolfgang:
na ja do not wirs zerreden Wolfgang still labelt Sonyseinen flash recorder with the HDV logo ..
What does zerreden? The HDV logo looks a tape drive. And correct me, but you can of the JVCs HD6, HD40, the 7 and Resolutions 1920x1080er just did not have firewire capture. I think the Capture on firewire with the JVC devices synonymous not useful, it only takes - and it is only in 1440x1080.
One reason for tools such as HDVSplit is that NLEs are with a few large files easier to do - but another reason is synonymous, so clean that one scene in HDV separations otherwise not really achieved.
Only when I have cleanly separate, individual scenes have - then it's a question whether I was not going to work. I see it now with the HF100 material - as does this very well synonymous.
Antwort von der henne:
I have the JVC HD3. The already available for 560 ¬ and I am with the quality and the handling of the camera actually quite pleased. I always film in HDV-compatible mode, with the premiere makes no Files synonymous Zick. Simply produced TOD files in MPEG Streamclip to open in batch, as a transport stream file (any filters JVC's proprietary file components out) the files and then rename to MPG, works perfectly. I know here swear on all the Canon models, which is indeed the sharpness of her well be better, but I did after the GS320 simply no desire on the lengthy capture. And 5Std recording time are synonymous for me in order. Vorallem are often comparing apples with pears: Sure is better HV20/30, synonymous but they cost 750 ¬, so a good 200 ¬ more than the JVC.
Antwort von motiongroup:
I see as hen
NONA HDV is only 1440x1080 and it was on the consumer redemption is the only affordable medium only it is not so ..
... This is not only synonymous but as JVC in Sonybei of 270, with the Z7, the EX1 and EX3 take what it is and leave it there. I confess in return in secret to me a Canon Cam to wish for Christmas and the BE is based on AVCHD ... to buy me birthday Pallette PS3 and leave it in the cluster, or calculate my films, I get of the Loto GmbH Dr. Wunderlich Quantel editing system
...... Wolfgang, I will discuss this frankly boring and I will be out of this retreat Fred ...
Have the honor ..
Antwort von Mittagspause:
Hi,
Thanks for your tips, I found the discussion synonymous with regard to the processing of the material very interesting.
I will probably HF100 me up, my reasons (as opposed to the other enumerated JVC camcorders and the series):
- Top-Filmqualität/Test results
- With price 650, - Euro absolutely under
- Flash-Speicher/keine moving hard drive.
Another question about the AVCHD footage, I have a PC with Dual Core 6750, 4 GB RAM, Vista 64-bit and a GForce 8800 GTS graphics card (as well as about one terabyte s.Harddisks).
Can I easily cut the footage and create a DVD (as in the past with my MiniDV camcorder)? I had previously with Ulead Media Studio 7 made.
What software is this recommended?
Thank you
Lunch Break
HDV is ALWAYS with tape.
nö that is not true.
Tip my JVC HD30/40
Antwort von domain:
Wed derCanonHF100 s.sich lying you certainly true, cheap and good undisputed Picture.
Personally, I always see the entire system from Camera and subsequent cutting opportunities, etc.
In my case, the GZ-HD40 is a clear case, because my current NLE (Liquid) still as long as possible not want to leave, because with all its possibilities yet perfectly with an E6600 in mpeg2 on several tracks including some color correction and crossfades works in real time.
I have with this hardware and with the Power Director synonymous AVCHD files already tested and although this editing program is one of the fastest to be under Core2 E6600, you can do that, what is normally comfortable with a smooth cut understands forget, because you will have to Q6600 must be upgraded and even then are still worlds Ulead between your program and your usual SD files and all other NLE is the native AVCHD can intersect.
Antwort von Mittagspause:
But I can not because the AVCHD files to HDV format or full-MPG2 convert them to "unnecessary" to edit?
I think that someday again a CPU upgrade is needed, and then my system is certainly capable of synonymous to edit AVCHD natively.
Have I misunderstood something or is not synonymous?
Greeting
Lunch Break
Wed derCanonHF100 s.sich lying you certainly true, cheap and good undisputed Picture.
Personally, I always see the entire system from Camera and subsequent cutting opportunities, etc.
In my case, the GZ-HD40 is a clear case, because my current NLE (Liquid) still as long as possible not want to leave, because with all its possibilities yet perfectly with an E6600 in mpeg2 on several tracks including some color correction and crossfades works in real time.
I have with this hardware and with the Power Director synonymous AVCHD files already tested and although this editing program is one of the fastest to be under Core2 E6600, you can do that, what is normally comfortable with a smooth cut understands forget, because you will have to Q6600 must be upgraded and even then are still worlds Ulead between your program and your usual SD files and all other NLE is the native AVCHD can intersect.
Antwort von domain:
At your place I would ever do something else entirely, namely Ulead Media Studio Pro 8 upgrade and 2-3 years with a good HDV camera or film with just the JVC-HD30/40 that of HDV over Full HD up AVCHD dominates everything, so it's my opinion.
Antwort von dvcut:
The current versions of Adobe Elements, Sony Vegas, Ulead VideoStudio, Pinnacle Studio and Canopus Edius Neo for AVCHD users are recommended. Most applications are in the meantime for under $ 100 available. Of course, the system requirement of older systems knockout criterion for many users. But in the past, these requirements are regularly in the Height and screwed in a few months we can still only a smile to offer.
Antwort von domain:
I did yesterday PowerDirector again slightly more accurate views and the preview quality to high. And lo and behold, synonymous in this grade is the preview of AVCHD under Core2 E6600 still in real time with an average processor utilization of 60%. So this would probably not synonymous Q6600 improvement.
If you separate files are imported, however, there is at each transition of a clip to the next a very ugly break, with short-term capacity utilization of 100%, the quad could possibly bring an improvement, the acceleration of the rendering process, of course, quite apart.
Then I have the clips in the AVC. MPEG4 format and re-exported and re-imported as expected, now the video runs in a smooth through. Probably would be the merging of individual files before the actual cut is a good thing.
The quality of the so-called AVC. MPEG4 format export in PD is not better than what we already konventienellen of mpeg4 encoders know, that is virtually forgotten, as will still need to do.
Quite different from the export MPEG2 format with almost twice as high memory requirements, that is ok, but quality are synonymous here to see.
Résumé: you can work and if you do not know better, one is so synonymous satisfied. The Farkorrekturmöglichkeiten, however, are a joke, but they are not already required of all users. Childish synonymous the myriad of screens, they had to cross the aperture and to omit other things fit to be sensible.
Antwort von wolfgang:
But I can not because the AVCHD files to HDV format or full-MPG2 convert them to "unnecessary" to edit?
I think that someday again a CPU upgrade is needed, and then my system is certainly capable of synonymous to edit AVCHD natively.
Have I misunderstood something or is not synonymous?
@ Lunch,
it is unfortunate when you see such specific questions - the core course and a possible right of way, and then not look at these questions will be discussed later.
More specifically, it is of course quite possible to cut AVC so that the material in "Intermediates" converts. While it is not necessarily the best solution if you take for mpeg2, but even that goes perfectly. If you take mpeg2, then please contact the 1920s the HF100 AVCHD material in full-HD mpeg2 stay. There are tools which can transform - Converter. In the case of mpeg2 would be a possibility of VASST AVCUpshift.
The slightly better option would be the use of cutting programs, which have high Intermediateschnitt support - through Intermediate codecs. Specifically Canopus NEO would be recommended, what synonymous still relatively cheap on ebay and some dealers to get is - which is very high on the Canopus HQ codec converts, then you can cut much easier than that of HF100 AVCHD material itself
For these last two road goes by a 2-core device, synonymous if a quad is Tevez.
If you want the AVCHD material "natively" cut - that is, the AVCHD material directly into the timeline of the editing program, then it needs quite strong PCs - Quad are no errors, ideally clocked higher. The Powerdiretor 7 is actually an exception is synonymous with the 2-core processors and the material is already halfway to cope.
Otherwise: purchase advice read - see link below!
Antwort von Daigoro:
And lo and behold, synonymous in this grade is the preview of AVCHD under Core2 E6600 still in real time with an average processor utilization of 60%. 60% equally distributed on both cores or up to 100%, and the other at 20%?
Antwort von domain:
To my knowledge, the Control Panel in Windows of always from the less congested Core upcoming assign processes, which is a permanent Hinundherspringen between the cores with raises. The single-core measurement is therefore generally make little sense
Antwort von domain:
@ Lunch,
it is unfortunate when you see such specific questions - the core course and a possible right of way, and then not look at these questions will be discussed later.
Wolfgang, we all know you as a total conversion specialists and codecs jederweder Socher Art of questions are answered and you always synonymous this time you will have a profound predictable response, which I do not want to prejudge ;-))
VASST AVCHD Upshift with is of course known, but in principle I would not recommend this option, but rather have high Intermediatcodecs
Antwort von Mittagspause:
@ Wolfgang
Thanks for the helpful software hints and ideas.
Your purchase advice I have already two to three times to read. I guess I will have some times you have to read the entire information contained mentally to be able to process :-)
The real issue is not about me synonymous, to make professional recordings and edit it professionally (that fits me the choice of equipment is certainly not).
My concern is in an acceptable quality, synonymous to a HDTV TV looks good, holiday videos, etc on DVD author.
And for that I need - I think - a thousand synonymous Effects / transitions and other software equipment.
In general, I sometimes add some background music in the videos and look at that crossfades look good - for me personally of a few effects.
For me it was important that I with my budget getting a good product - and I am confident in the HF100. I just wanted to exclude that I buy the HF100 and then find that I - as described above - no DVD is because the hardware requirements are too high.
@ ALL
Thank you of course still synonymous for all other posts / Opinions
Many greetings
Lunch Break
Antwort von Daigoro:
To my knowledge, the Control Panel in Windows of always from the less congested Core upcoming assign processes, which is a permanent Hinundherspringen between the cores with raises. The single-core measurement is therefore generally make little sense Theoretically, the good work. In practice I have seen far too often, the editing programs like encoder and a core of 100% utilization (and only one core) and the remaining 5-25% OS and applications on the other will be shelved.
Total capacity utilization to 90-95% on both cores I've really only with the Windows Media Encoder can observe, which is why I like synonymous to WMV-HD rausrechne.
The Quicktime HD encoder zb (at least the non-Pro version for Windows), generally used only one core. : /
Then I eiert the overall synonymous only about 55-60% rum, with a core that calculates the wolf and the other bored.
Wär ja schön, if the work would be equitably distributed and at 60% for high quality previews would still reserve for Effects etc.
See Attachment - Ulead VideoStudio 11.5 Plus Gedo Trial with HDV.
Antwort von wolfgang:
@ Wolfgang
The real issue is not about me synonymous, to make professional recordings and edit it professionally (that fits me the choice of equipment is certainly not).
My concern is in an acceptable quality, synonymous to a HDTV TV looks good, holiday videos, etc on DVD author.
And for that I need - I think - a thousand synonymous Effects / transitions and other software equipment.
In general, I sometimes add some background music in the videos and look at that crossfades look good - for me personally of a few effects.
You may laugh - but of the approach you described, I believe that much more professional, as when one plays with 1001 transitions, and says only s.bunten pictures and effects to delight them.
Forums usually focus more on the technical aspects, unfortunately, and less on the creative and artistic. Maybe you'll find this interesting suggestions here:
http://www.videotreffpunkt.com/thread.php?threadid=7164
For me it was important that I with my budget getting a good product - and I am confident in the HF100. I just wanted to exclude that I buy the HF100 and then find that I - as described above - no DVD is because the hardware requirements are too high.
Just thought this was the reason the first purchase advice "HDV versus AVCHD" in about two years to write - because we have seen that people unknowingly buy AVCHD devices, and then repeatedly frustrated having ascertained that they Videos can not cut! This is synonymous why they purchase the same advice in "AVCHD area is located.
Have fun with the device of your choice.
Antwort von domain:
Lunch breaks can sometimes be quite stressful.
Of JW Goethe:
"Lord and Master! Hear me call! --
Ah, here comes the master!
Sir, the suffering is great!
I cried the ghost,
I will not go. "
Antwort von Mittagspause:
Lunch breaks can sometimes be quite stressful. and just because I do not suppose the JVC-HD30/40 ....
Antwort von domain:
You have the only right recognized.
Anyone who does not elect JVC HD 30/40, is my personal enemy, namely because I am 100% identify with this camera :-))
Antwort von Mittagspause:
Correction:
I have now ordered, but not the Canon but the SonyHDR-SR11E.
Greeting
Lunch Break
