Frage von cyberpeter:
Hello,
ich weis contribution number 500 to this issue. Unfortunately, it is difficult for many opinions the right filter for me. It was also the advice in stores are not really good. I had the feeling that if you are not just a device for about 1,000 euros to buy, then probably nothing with advice. This was so in the media marketplace. Therefore, I hope that I have someone in spite of the many identically worded questions may have.
As the first times the area. The expected 99.9% of our subsidiaries are set out in the coming days to the world. This should probably mean a mix of indoor and outdoor shots. The photo function is not important because I am a Minolta Dimage A1 did.
Then the question which system. Choice is hard to drive or mini-DV. The opinion which I have had so herausgehört is the mini-DV hard drive as the subsequent processing are highly homemade is superior and the better quality, this is the hard drive at an advantage when it comes to the fast transmission of the Camera on the PC is fast and burning without any post.
I would not have a lot of cut and if at times a film with a little music has been unsuccessful or the various movies and trim with a small effect aneinandersetzen to put it on a DVD to have. Is that with the MPEG2 recording format the hard disk recorder, for example with video studio Unlead possible? The second I would be interested in how large and visible quality difference between the below mini-DV camcorders and hard disks really are.
For me the choice are:
Mini-DV: SonyDCR HC-96E or Panasonic NV-GS 320EG
hard drive: SonyDCR-SR72E/70E or SonyDCR-190E
I would be very happy if someone could help me, because I know soon no longer what I believe and I maybe can give a hint which of the cams for me is right.
Antwort von wolfgang:
Yes, both formats can be with Ulead VideoStudio editing.
And yes, the optical quality is now between the two formats is rather low.
But yes, it is synonymous so that the video editing of mpeg2 still difficult than of DV camcorders - and more calls from your PC. In principle, therefore, tend nowadays most people probably still DV camcorders, if, before the of those devices you have the choice.
When SonyHC96 it is important to note that it is a vertical act. That is not everybody's thing - absolutely the times before the equipment purchase in the hands and look at how you keep doing. Synonymous with the unit lacks a microphone input for an extra-Micro - otherwise it is quite ok. Personally I would rather for NV-GS 320 tilt synonymous because of the improved controls.
Antwort von znieh:
Hello,
the appetite comes later ...
All my shots are on DV tape in the archives: 1h = 13GByte film (1h Film on DVD = 4.3 GB). The problem of Festplattencams I see in the archive.
The difference in quality between DV and mpeg2 DVD is so high that I never have a DVD camcorder would buy. However, if you are not a quality fanatic is probably sufficient synonymous play MPEG2 recording.
But since we have a plasma TV, we see clear error image synonymous, and our good DVD recorder is in the scale of values slipped backwards.
In relation to the two tape-cams, I would take the Pana because no EIS, but has an optical; just inside an electronic impact negatively on the stability and image quality of the recording from Wweitwinkligkeit.
I have the Canon MVX25i made in spite of the EIS and would not do more.
Mfg
Heinz znieh =
Antwort von Bousquet:
Did someone really experienced with the handling of mpeg2 recordings?
It is not easy as with DV is clear. But what goes in processing eg with Unlead and what does not?
If HD then the SonyDCR-190E. From the data say this chip is the DCR-HC 96E actually superior. Is it still a big difference visible?
Antwort von cyberpeter:
Yes, both formats can be with Ulead VideoStudio editing.
And yes, the optical quality is now between the two formats is rather low.
But yes, it is synonymous so that the video editing of mpeg2 still difficult than of DV camcorders - and more calls from your PC. In principle, therefore, tend nowadays most people probably still DV camcorders, if, before the of those devices you have the choice. First thanks for the reply.
Can you perhaps tell me what you do with difficult or what goes and what does not.
Antwort von Daigoro:
Did someone really experienced with the handling of mpeg2 recordings?
It is not easy as with DV is clear. But what goes in processing eg with Unlead and what does not?
Do you MPG2 files or DVDs?
I think there's a difference if I am not mistaken. 'Simply MPG2 files' goes with'm Movie Maker and quite (except in comparison to the DV Avi low data rate - or compression - in other words, more or less visible artifacts, dropouts, etc.) well.
Problematic when using the MPG2 file, somewhere on the DVD is from the DVD filegewust squeeze will.
In relation to the two tape-cams, I would take the Pana because no EIS, but has an optical; just inside an electronic impact negatively on the stability and image quality of the recording from Wweitwinkligkeit.
I have the Canon MVX25i made in spite of the EIS and would not do more. Ich hab ne synonymous whose MVX25i and the EIS (EIS or in general?) Not the yellow of the egg is, I can confirm.
The only question is whether an OIS really brings so much more. When filming without a tripod, shake it always (grad finally back on television noticed: Germania's next top model or something .. interview situation with 2 cameras - at the intersection of the one to the other even my wife noticed which of them was auf'm Tripod and what not - and the cameras have certainly technical properties of those known as Hobbyist can only dream).
An OIS suppresses sure more of them (have no real comparison), but a truly peaceful Picture to get my mind only with Tripod.
Antwort von Bousquet:
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do you MPG2 files or dvds?
I think there's a difference if I am not mistaken. 'Just MPG2 files edit' goes with'm movie maker and quite (except for the comparatively low to dv avi data - ie compression - ie more or less visible artifacts, dropouts, etc.) well.
problematic when using the MPG2 file which is somewhere on the dvd is from the dvd filegewust squeeze will.
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A normal MPEG2 file.
I think we are talking to each other.
I was at the Media Markt and have a Sony SR-30 and have taken just kept it. Then I have a flat Sonyan connected and the result was, at least for my taste and that I first take a camcorder in his hand was good. After the SR-190 prefer that actually is better, should not necessarily be worse, rather better.
If I do now, say something off, various files together and maybe druntersetzte music and then burn to DVD, the quality is much worse then to speak additional dropouts, artifacts and blurred as to what I saw when I entered the Cam directly connected s.den Television hab
Antwort von Bernd E.:
When filming without a tripod, shake it always (grad finally back on television noticed ... and the cameras have certainly technical properties of those known as Hobbyist can only dream). The jitter in such cases is surely not because the cameramen their cameras could not keep quiet, but apparently it is now "in" with shaky hand-held camera to shoot. That is supposedly the viewers feel as if the man depicted was genuine and not made somehow. Even in otherwise good movies this annoying Gewackel desöfteren.
As far as the technical characteristics of the cameras are apart of their weight (most likely yes his shoulder cameras), the first of them to rest is much more stable, professional cameras typically have no built-in stabilization. Optical stabilizers, there is at best as accessories for the optics.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von znieh:
On the subject of OIS and EIS:
I had before my MVX25i EIS with a Canon MV30i with OIS. The advantage of the optical stabilizer is that it can always leave, because he has no influence on the picture (in negative sense).
A tripod is the best, but when traveling or when rapid spontaneous shooting, for example, the child is often cumbersome tripod or even disturbing. Movies I like performances events, then the stability of sausage and it is what we have.
I use the camera rather than Pleasure-camera, and since an IS is a must for me (I have my cameras without IS in the head and still synonymous whose recordings on VHS tape, I know what I'm talking about.
MfG
Heinz znieh =
Antwort von ROx:
Hello,
what I now do not quite understand it:
all rates of DVD s.and many here now say the convert etc is no problem.
What is now wanted me actually a miniDV and get something now?
Antwort von Markus73:
Hello,
what I now do not quite understand it:
all rates of DVD s.and many here now say the convert etc is no problem.
ERST the mini-DV in the highest quality material to edit it and then into the final format MPEG2 video on DVD to convert, no problem.
But first in this highly compressed format incorporated (as DVD camcorders do) and then processing steps to try to change the material and therefore high quality (ie no bewegungs-/frameübergreifende Compression) presuppose that no longer exists, THE is the problem.
Gruß,
Markus
