Frage von Patrick1978:
Hello,
I would like to buy myself shortly publish a camcorder. But there is a huge job, I was of "experts" advise total times, and at another way, I now know even nothing more.
I will need him before the holidays. Synonymous want to connect an external camera as synonymous with skiing and other activities to be able to shoot. So I've needed time AV-in. In order to be able to control the synonymous (recording start and should) end is synonymous to connect a cable remote control. It should, however, synonymous make good pictures even in poor light, such as in street or at parties. Synonymous, and it should be affordable. I'm not asking any miracle, already know that it might cost and what is synonymous, but it should not cost 2400 Euro, as I wanted to turn on him as a "professional" one.
I hope the time is now here I am smarter
Thank you very much
Antwort von molch:
Hi,
would be almost panasonic gs 250 or 400 is good for you, the (has s.eingang, I know not whether the record can be tied to them), but the lowlight is stop.
since you'd have to have a higher preisklase jump to the 2000 euro ...
Antwort von Markus:
Hi Patrick,
The camcorder, which was recommended to you for ¬ 2,400 by a specialist, is certainly the SonyVX2100. In low light situations (party, ...) makes no other device such good shots. Unfortunately there are many cheap Geizzeit since the outbreak of the models on the market, which just shows significant weaknesses in lowlight area. The rule of thumb: The bigger the CCD imager, the better the sensitivity.
The question is what is the right camcorder is asked here almost every day and quite often (of Jan) extensive answers. Look at yourself, at times in the camcorder category, according to similar-sounding questions ... ;-)
Antwort von Patrick1978:
Ever grateful for the info. What did you hold of the Sony DCR-HC32E? I liked the best, the price is synonymous yeah, OK, should remain below 1000 euro. Clear that it was bessres there, but it must nonetheless be synonymous something good in the low-class.
Bentley is clearly a quality of and brings me a to b but a polo synonymous :-) and when I go for example in the A6 class, I have been synonymous really good quality but still affordable price.
Antwort von GhostDog:
Last extremely lame Comparison:
We're not going with the car of A to B, but to make films.
A cheap camera sees in low light simply shit.
Say, you are unhappy with your needs in the budget. Either Ansprüch reduce or save.
Antwort von GhostDog:
Yes well, I would have saved myself the relatively able, but was meant more as fun.
As is probably true but then again the more likely theory:
man will not only buy the best, because with the purchase of something favorable may be losing money. Because if you buy something cheap like this one can not expect it with something equally expensive, here comes the set a cost-effectiveness. Now they are a little more money to get the corresponding synonymous anymore. Are you out but not enough, we run the danger of losing everything, because it is not what we expected.
But now I'll give 2000 euro is not, then I prefer my entitlements, and vertical views in good light even movies. Experimental and if so what then Vollprofi ;-) I'm still so I can grow such a.
But does anyone here have experience with the above Sonygemacht. So I found a format similar to the super.
(or as my girlfriend said when she bought a car: "The color is beautiful" ;-)
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
how much roughly 500 ¬, 750 ¬ or 1000 ¬?
Do you need the analog or digital inputs s.Filmschnitt, interest or whatever you want with the home movie deal (on DVD or tape back on it?)
If the inputs are not needed for you HC 39 is perhaps better, larger CCD, gibts s.ihr the intelligent accessory shoe for an extra Micro zb. In HC 17,19,22,32 gibts keine Tonverbesserungsmaßnahmen except PC. From HC 39 is at 16 / 9 more on it (hence the synonymous 16 / 9 LCD) and if I'm not gibts s.HC 39 Battery with FP 50 recall, 30 in beginners class only FP With inputs gibts noch almost identical HC 42 a little more expensive.
With a little more popular here in the forum, perhaps, the HC 90 has even zebra Überbelichtungkontrolle,'s popular with professionals.
Since I like Panasonic and Sony may rarely have glasses on (like most I know!), I would recommend synonymous 3CCD the majority of the GS series.
There are of course synonymous Canon and JVC.
LG
January
Antwort von Patrick1978:
Hello Jan,
So that's about 700 ¬ can be. As I said, better to spend 700 ¬ and get something where the result agrees with saving over 200 ¬ to 500 ¬ of a Cam and not be satisfied and then it is in the corner.
Analog input I need, in any case as a connection for a wired remote control. (If the Cam stowed in the backpack and then use remote control s.der hand and camera module as s.Kopf filmed at ski driving.
I guess that I, if a film is finished, I burn the DVD.
Good if you can spool it's back to tape, you can even show that synonymous with someone who has no dvd player, but need not be.
If now is still a connection for an external micro turn, the better. Be the first but not need, but we do not know what is coming. But is not an absolute must.
If he synonymous in bad light, as already described, makes good shots (shots are only private use) then the synonymous great, but when I create the duplicate to be, then I just live with it.
Greeting
Patrick
Antwort von Patrick1978:
Hab mal grade compared with the HC42, the HC32. So Preismässig is indeed a different, but the I cope with :-)
So this is it's one accessory shoe so you can connect a Micro? The synonymous seems a little better to have an objective, right? 12x instead of 20x zoom, although less but you need it? Have reads that at large zoom necessarily a tripod will be used. I really do not renn on holiday with one tripod over the place :-)
And a better battery is right here, in the HC42.
The 39 does not come into question because of the unions.
Antwort von WeiZen:
Patrik Moin,
I have 1997, a first Digi Cam bought it, the SonyVX700 because I 3Chipper the VX1000 was too expensive. Emerged as the VX2000, the s successor to the VX1000, I have long considered too long. It was not until 2002, I bought it then and I regret deeply that they have not already bought chr. The differences are extreme, synonymous with good light.
Do not make the same mistake. Over the entire light spectrum provides the VX2100, the successor to the VX2000, better pictures than almost any other consumer camera. The additional costs to be paid for all time. Many now sell their VX2000/2100 because they have bought an FX1 HDV. This used equipment would be an alternative. The Logig from the authoritarian result mitlerweile I have bought one FX1 and not looked back. My VX2000 is now in my private museum, or as Leihkamera go.
Antwort von Markus:
12x instead of 20x zoom, although less but you need it? Have reads that at large zoom necessarily a tripod will be used. Important as large as possible a tele (Tripod is then absolutely a must!) Is the largest possible angle. That is in everyday situations (indoor, etc.) of greater benefit.
Antwort von Patrick1978:
Hello again,
Hmm, the VX2100 but it is a killer part :-) yes looks real huge. Or seems to be the only way? Yes Does a real benefit even after camera. Well, I do not know if I need it.
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
the intelligent accessory shoe of Sonymuss only be said that only Sony's micro-compatible)
In the lens you're right, therefore, not only Carl Zeiss T * but T
From 39 provides the HC's T * formerly known as "Eagle Eye" are better compensated lens to get even more sharpness and brilliance to achieve and the apochromatic lens corrector.
And HC 90? I have you in business for 899 ¬. On the Internet almost your price should probably be possible, if you want to buy there.
Good, the VX 2100 is quite ne other class, you have to decide how much you do it pastime.
Of course one could get to the taste and through the purchase of used VX 2100, really good eg shooting a hut on a party as the VX Skialm 2100 is almost unbeatable, and propose pretty much everything in the class picture from the (first) law, the Sony entry. And the size? Well had Canon XM 2 (similar) but I've rarely complain about the size. Except in certain situations where it was too big.
Lg
January
Antwort von Patrick1978:
What, then, lies the essential difference between the HC42 and HC90?
So, for internet purchases, I'm more cautious. Because I would rather buy more and invite you to spend what one in like with you. Would be cool if your load in my near would be, then I would stop by to look.
Antwort von jens:
That's "little shop" ;-) of Jan, I think, in Munich. Only I would me with your tight budget (in relation to your needs) nor superior times. Of course you have the Internet-shop (not an individual customer service so that you can get some here ;-). When it comes to the service, then the "load" Submitting from January synonymous only your camera, if at some point something should fail. On the other hand you can go there and, complaining of face to face time should be.
The clear advantage is of course synonymous try it - that should really make everyone before he pulls out a camera. On the other hand forbids synonymous None, go in as a "shop" to try out the camera and then eventually buy it on the Internet.
Ultimately, it must then decide each for himself where he wants to buy. On the Internet there are very (many) bad apples, but number of synonymous reliable shops. Both options have their pros and cons.
Jens
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
New Munich, and I'm just coming of the chain Media Markt - Saturn on the much criticized for specialists as synonymous with right. I have no problem even if a Munich does not buy for me, but with which the intensely advises, and of vornerein then buy on the Internet. Good because I can not do anything synonymous.
Look at how far apart the offers stop, but only of known shippers. They do not want to pay and get it so long as nothing ever is synonymous happens in this forum already. At the company JVC siehts eh bad for me there, I do not come near the price. A Comparison makes sense. But because of 30-50 ¬ for 600 ¬ you should consider.
It would be nice, the German or European Model with German instructions given to the EC at Panasonic or Sony zb., Synonymous in the case of a possible warranty.
Good at the Internet address raussuchen had to stop and pay ¬ 7 for shipping.
On my chain, it costs nothing, and it is possible, a ne Leihkamera to get free (but mostly the lower class is ne)
Are a little lazy, but many new Slashcam, perhaps at times Sonyvorbeischauen:
HC 90 HC 42 With the T * ich hab mich grad probably missed in the HC 42, but probably only gibts s.der HC 90 upps
LG
January
Antwort von Roland:
Hi,
I think that will be discussed too much about lowlight qualities. I have on my Canon MVX3i that might not even believe in lowlight area, but is otherwise excellent, a Canon VL3 Video Light set with only 3 watts. The result is convincing.
Greeting
Roland
Antwort von Patrick1978:
Hello,
aha, it would be synonymous nor ne possibility if it's not even works in bad light.
Maybe then they need 10 to 15 times a year, I think times like this and then as 4 to 6 times in bad light.
With so ner's video light will always work out safely.
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
There are already cameras rushing mighty, "" if not daylight.
What are your experiences with the 3 watt bulb?
I have a shop of Hama in synonymous with I think 3 or 5 watts, the synonymous Led's commitment.
If you look very light in the eye, although one is almost blind (A joke), but some illumination you doing with me not even a person in semi-darkness.
I am not convinced of yours. I have used more with the older 40-watt lamps,
as Emperor of eg an inexpensive Manufacturer: Although the need again a 6 v battery, which again makes the case more difficult.
